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Nope. Find me the American equivalent of Britain's Lady Margaret Thatcher and I would vote for her in a heartbeat.
As one British wag put it back in the day, "Thatcher is the best man Britain has!" She was tough, she was principled, she - as another wit put it - "Knew what she thought and would tell you what you thought too!"
There are some pretty sharp American female politicians out there at the moment. South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem pops to mind. However, South Dakota is not exactly the birthplace of American Presidents - Mt. Rushmore notwithstanding - so the odds of Governor Noem getting to the national stage, specifically the WH, are somewhat slender.
Beyond that, there are some very capable women in DC, but none seem to be WH material. Moreover, the women at the moment who do seem to have captured media attention - Elizabeth Warren, VP Harris, Stacey Abrams, Hillary Clinton - convey not so much strength and purpose as a sort of tinny brittle shrill tone.
Whatever one thinks of their political views - and I confess that they are not my party - they do not impress by their demeanor. They are more about the media than they are about serious governance.
That said, the day will come and when the right women candidate comes along, I will gladly vote for them. It is principles and purpose, not gender, that counts.
"tinny brittle shrill tone" is something Maggie Thatcher had and got politically counseled to change about herself if she wanted to be successful. If you can't handle that women's voices are anatomically going to be a higher pitch that you have to listen to... draw your own inferences
@Old_Golden Uhmmm, it has nothing to do with pitch. It has everything to do with message. Lady Thatcher was a serious thinker and a tough politician. Compare that to, for example, VP Harris, whose preferred response to a question is a cackling laugh and babbling incoherence.
That is but one example, but there are others. Suffice to say, my point was regards the content of their speech, not the pitch of their voices. Thatcher was authentic and serious and authoritative. As I said, most - not all - of the female politicians who have currently captured media attention barely qualify in those categories.
Right. So why didn't you say that in the first place instead of "tinny brittle shrill tone "? And politics theses days takes serious thinking about how to get media exposure because it's free advertising so you can't really believe anyone on the national stage is stupid...
@Old_Golden Because messages convey tone. See again VP Harris.
Good for you? So you're well aware how Newt Gingrich led to the death of civil discourse and landed us in this sound-bite hell-hole. I only read news so I'm sorry but I have no clue what messages from Harris you're referring too. If anything reading what she said as AG in Cali seems pretty brutal
@Old_Golden Actually, not sure of your point. I am not a fan of Mr. Gingrich, though I have met him. In any case, men can equally convey a frivolous tone.
Indeed, I would argue that, with a few exceptions, we are in a period that is, on the whole, unserious. For this, by the way, I blame the public. When they look to the likes of Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden and see serious adults, it is fair to question the public's presumed wisdom.
Still, as Adam Smith famously said, "There is much ruin in a nation." So it goes. My point in terms of this question is that if you find me an intellectually serious female candidate, I will vote for her as easily as I would vote for an intellectually serious male candidate.
As I said at the end of my initial posting, it is principles and purpose, not gender, that counts. Suffice to add, that if we are to judge by her consequences, Lady Thatcher was a VERY serious figure.
So it goes. I had no point, I'm merely trying to converse and understand other people's views and opinions, thank you for your time!
Yes, to be honest. Logically speaking, men are biologically advantageous when it comes to working long horrendous hours, keeping a calm sense of stoicism under stress, and achieving emotional resilience when faced with adversity. Most CEOs of Fortune 500 companies work around 70 hours a week, and most Fortune 500 CEOs are men. There are few women out that that are willing to do these things. Even my experience in the Marine Corps- female Marines can’t do what male Marines do.
The emotional resilience one has to possess to be the leader of the US is unachievable to most of the world. Women for example produce 7x less testosterone, and much more estradiol than men making women more reactive to emotional stimuli.
Also, let’s consider the age range. Women experiencing menopause are highly susceptible to negative emotions which cloud judgement. What happens if she’s younger, and is undergoing pregnancy? I’m not saying that a woman couldn’t be president, but the odds would be against her.
I’m all about freedom, but I try to use logically driven discernment when I formulate societal opinions. If a woman can beat all the odds, and perform, then she should the right to do so. If she beat all the odds, and I favored her policy, then I’d vote. I just doubt that a woman could, and it would make me apprehensive to vote.
Men and women are simply different. Nothing wrong with that.
I see a lot of men saying they wouldn’t want a female president because women are more emotional and men are more logical. But that line of thinking is based on a misconception due to societal standards. Men have so much pressure put on them to never show their feelings which often blocks their ability to express them in a healthy way. Women have for the longest time been seen as less intelligent, and combined with the stereotype of us being overly emotional, led to people thinking the two were correlated. Emotions are bad because women have them and women aren’t smart kind of thing. While yes sometimes extreme emotions can lead to irrational behaviors, this is not an exclusive trait for women. Men often times make bad decisions due to anger. Yet we don’t see people arguing against having male presidents.
Because men are surperior
"misconception due to societal standards"
As I understand it, it's a consequence of male variability. Men are more expendable than women for reproductive replacement reasons, so it would make sense that men would evolve with more variation, because the failures of evolution would be less harmful for the species when they happen to men.
If you look at IQ, this is what you see. Similar average, greater standard deviation for men.
So no, it's not a misconception that women are less intelligent, it's that when you look at the best of the best, they will tend to be men, which is a large part of why in competitive environments it's almost always men at the top. Similarly, most of the most stupid and unsuccessful are also men, which is another so called "misconception" that contradicts the one you're pointing out. Eg when you think of a bum or a NEET or a dropout, does a man or a woman come to mind?
"Men often times make bad decisions due to anger"
Speaking for myself, I've only been angry a few times in my life. But when I'm angry I don't act or make decisions, because that would be stupid.
I voted trying to imagine how men feel. I voted no, as I don't thing anyone would be bothered by this. A president is just a symbolic figure, why would anyone be bothered by that? It's not that it will directly affect their life?
If their wife became president that is another thing.
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https://news.yahoo.com/trump-predicts-rep-elise-stefanik-205310980.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Trump predicts Rep. Elise Stefanik will be president 'in about 6 years'
President Donald Trump predicted at a closed door fundraiser on Tuesday that Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-NY, will "be president in about 6 years."
Trump's praise for Stefanik, first reported by The New York Post, comes on the heels of the New York congresswoman emerging as one of his most ardent defenders.
"I want to congratulate Elise on her success," Trump said, according to the Post. "Man is she moving fast. That means at this rate she'll be president in about 6 years."
Stefanik voted against certifying the 2020 election results on the day of the January 6 insurrection and has defended Trump's voter fraud lies, often under the pretext of "tens of millions of Americans" lacking confidence in the legitimacy of President Joe Biden's victory..
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So tell me Trump Lemmings who jack off to Fox News / OAN / NewsMax and what Fucker Carlson says and Hannity. If this woman was running for office.. You wouldn't select her since your Lord and Master DEMANDED you to vote for her? #FUCKTRUMP
Yes I would in a heartbeat especially if she was a no-nonsense type of person I mean we had Trump who never mind. I'm not even going to go there then we have Biden who seems to be losing his mind and that's because of whatever the Democrats had plan for all of us if you noticed you're getting us right where they want us the moment there's a food shortage that's where we're headed you can you control the food you control the people there's a senator for my state she's a woman she used to be the attorney General she would make a good president she's Hispanic and she does not lie or cheat she took her job very serious and she did very good she's now a senator and I pray to God that she is not become one of the good old boys
Out of pure curiosity, what exactly is the Democrats plan for all of us with the food shortage?
Even WITH the women voting here, I'd say we have a consensus.
However, voting should be done based SOLELY on who is the best person for the job, NOT based on what they have between their legs or what colour it is!! If THAT IS what we're voting on, then I have no problem with a woman president, as long as she's not skewed based on what SHE has between her legs!! You're SUPPOSED to work for THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, NOT just those that have the same crotch design or skin colour as you!!
Except for one or two issues, Tulsi would've been okay.
Personally I would love it if Candice Owens ran for president especially since we would drive the Democrats crazy that republicans elected the first black woman as president
Hmmm 👀 I’m here for this
Right what would be fun to see is Candice Owens and Gina Carano off VP honestly Gina Carano wouldn’t even need a security team she would probably kick the ass of and one who tried to attack her unless there other male UFC fighters ( also played cara dune in the mandalorian). She also is currently directing her own movie for the dailywire Ben Shapiro’s platform.
Not going to lie I could love to see a fight between her and ronda Rousey that could be a fun fight to watch, gina never fought in UFC but she was other female MMA matches in her career she’s training Muaythai and kickboxing
I would love to see candice run but i wouldn't like seeing a all woman ticket. i would like to see owens and jr or owens and ben. even having her as vp wouldn't be bad deal either
No because I know that she's unlikely to win. It's not that I think a woman can't be president, it's just that I think a female president is unlikely to get a nomination then the actual vote. Hillary was close but she was a life long politician with questionable qualifications at best. It'll be another 20 years before someone with her experience and popularity comes along and hopefully much longer before Republicans decide to vote for such a terrible candidate.
If we did get a woman president I'd be pretty happy to see what she does though, just pray she's ready for the attacks that will inevitably come. I thought Obama had it bad but a woman? Good luck!
No, I don't feel discomfort at the possibility of a female president. I just want whoever it may be to be the right one and has policies I can support and ideals that fall in line with mine to be followed up and met. That's all I ask of any presidential candidate on the ballot.
Example, I would have been willing to vote for Tulsi Gabbard had she been the front runner for the Democrats over Biden.
Just like most people in the U. S... NO ONE cares about their sex or their skin color, by vote based on the candidates stance and political views.
Anyone who would vote for no other reason than genitalia and cosmetic melanin levels is an utter fool..
Having a female president is not the problem. I vote based on how I feel about political issues and which candidate most closely lines up with my views. I also vote based on a candidate's votes if they ever held office before because how a person votes indicates the types of votes they will make in officer. No woman has run for president that I would back, but if one did then she would have my vote.
Not at all , UNLESS , its the like of this woman ( in the box seat ) , or the horrendous actions of the likes of Hillary Clinton , ( the presidents wife , is no qualification ) ..
A woman of substance and brilliance would be a great thing , BUT the last thing you want is some inferior FOOL , being the first , that would just destroy the cause for a decade.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the idea of a female president.
That being said, looking at the potential candidates right now - Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Nikki Haley - they're all terrible! (AOC is the only decent candidate on the horizon, but that's still at least a decade away).
In fairness, it's really, really hard to think of any decent male candidates either, which I guess is how the whole Trump & Biden shitshow came about.
I am only concerned about policies and how they affect our country and its sovereignty. I am not looking for role model, a paster, a parent in the White House and I don't care about mean tweets, your sexual preferences, etc. And no matter what picture the media and democrats try to paint I believe that MOST (by far) men feel the same way. I wonder if there has been polling on that (beside this post)... I'd bet if there has been the results weren't shared in most media, doesn't help the narrative that so many use to keep us as "a people" divided. And on that note... cheers!
I can’t wait for a woman to be elected President. I don’t understand these guys that get their testicles twisted over the idea of a female President. Whether a person can do the job is what matters to me, not whether they have an “inny” or an “outy” between their legs!
No. It just depends on who the woman is. No Republicans but no extreme liberal women either. No Sarah Palin, Elizabeth Warren, AOC, Kamala, no women who have only gained a name and attention for just being mouthy or spewing out ideas just to get noticed.
I actually think it would be cool if someone like Sarah Palin became president, not Harris by any means.
Gender has no bearing on me, I'd take a female Republican over a male Democrat any day.
While Palin may not be the best choice, there is plenty of good ones, Even Liz Cheney would be awesome.
I could not care less if our president had a penis or pussy...
What scares me most is their politics..
We have to get past this sex / race polarizing BS and start focusing on who would be our best chooce.. This whole polarizing mindset is how we got our current imbecile...
If her only qualification is that she is a woman then I wouldn't like that. If she has similar views as I do and actually acts on them then I could support her. If she runs against Trump then I wouldn't vote for her (or anyone else over him). Maybe in the future someone like Michelle Backman or Candice Owens could run for office, but not right now. They need to wait until Trump is back in and then maybe DeSantis if he stays consistent. After that one of those two I mentioned could run.
"The right person for the job" should be the modus operandi by which politicians are elected. Sadly, that's usually not the case, and elections are often swayed by emotions and propaganda, and not by policy or track record or even general intelligence. So whether my country has a male or female leader next, the chances are just as high they'll be a sociopathic career politician who would walk over the bones of dead babies if it somehow confered a political advantage.
Depends on who and what their policies are. Like, I wouldn't want a feminist as president. Though I wouldn't feel as confident about things if we had a female president in general as opposed to a male one... Things would seem fragile and America isn't fragile. I guess I'd say I just wouldn't feel comfortable with it.
I'm not worried about the president bring a woman. I'm worried about the terrible candidates that get a boost, like Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris who embody what the patriarichy is.
Women like AOC and Ilhan Omar I are actually good candidates, although AOC has been leaning a bit towards the status quo in terms of Democratic party loyalty. The whole girl boss mentality to justify status quo policy only hurts Feminism. I don't want another Joe Biden, I want an actual progressive candidate
It makes no difference to me. I just wish we could have one president in my life that was not trying to cosplay Reagan. Or some little johnson Bush who tries to make up for their micro weenie by sending people to die in expensive wars. This is the 11th consecutive Reagan administration and this BS is getting way old. Clinton would be Reagan. Harris is obviously Reagan. Sinema is Reagan. Hell, AOC is basically Reagan-lite with better PR.
No. There's already tons of women in politics. The problem is, most of them are insufferable. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, all of them are garbage human beings. When someone presents a woman of quality, I'll consider her.
In India we did have female prime minister, Indra Gandhi. And everyone in India ( including all the Indian women ) knows she was a disaster!
She imposed emergency in the country for valid reason but to remain in power she did so terrible things to our country.
Men: do you feel discomfort in the thought of a possible female president if another woman ran for president?
My answer is yes in India we did not have a good experience with a female prime minister. Whereas we majority of Indians are very happy with our current prime minister Narendra Modi.
*for no valid reason
1. Indira Gandhi was insecured & was highly ambitious, who in her quest for political supremacy has erased the value of an institution & encouraged sycophancy to give her self comfort.
2. India is paying price all of her acts in destroying all independent institutions.
3. She set precedent where sycophants are given positions of authority in return to absolute slavism and this continues even today i. e. 50 years hence.
4. She may be a HE in political she's / Political Transgenders., in that process country got degraded & suffered
5. The Simla Agreement is a poorly draft document, when it was in position of strength, India should have exerted more & occupied entire Pakistan permanently or put some strict controls that USA imposed on Japan post WW-II.
6. Her ambition to become Prime Minister made way for Russia to kill / assassinate Lal Bahadur Sastri & make to top of the ladder.
7. She had her share of failed love affairs which gave her split personality
8. She could not reconcile that her son Sanjay Gandhi blackmailing on her love affairs that she got him killed… she was cold & colder than than the ice itself.
You can read further about her on Google
I don't think someones gender matters for the presidency.
I think what matters is the quality. At this point Hillary is super currupt. Harris is absolutely nuts.
Who else is there? AOC? She's terrible flat out lies every two seconds and is basically a socialist/marxist extremist... so no good there.
Give the USA a quality candidate and they will win an election, it's that simple... But so far that hasn't happened as far as females go.
Here in Finland we had Tarja Halonen as our president for 12 years. She was this country's mother figure. In America, Hillary won the popular vote, which means wven USA was willing to give a woman a chance that the electorals in power, ignored.
I voted for her Tarja here in Finland.
My disgust for this republican (ideological not political party) goes beyond whether the reigning puppet is a man or woman. This system is so decrepit I really couldn't care less who is the face of it. My biggest complaint would be that people would think it's special that a woman could be as soulless as a man in order to ascend to the office.
If presidents had real power, I would be opposed to woman being president. However, it doesn't make any difference, because president must obey our masters. Since, our masters own the money, mainstream media, the FBI, the CIA, and sites like Facebook, Twitter, etc., It is impossible to get elected president and live if you don't obey our masters. That is why, other than a few show items, what Trump did was the same as what Hillary would have done.
I find this funny as shit
Everyone check out the great job Kamala Harris is doing
My question
Is by fluke of nature a woman is president?
Will she ever admit to mistake?
Let's face it Harris the bar for women to be president
And it's been set awful low
I dont have any problem with a woman president... I would have a big problem with Kamala Harris specifically though. Not just ANY woman (or man) should be president. It has to be the right person for the job and Kamala ain't it.
Not at all. As soon as there is a female candidate who is more qualified than the opposing male candidates, I will vote for her in a heartbeat, without hesitation. Unfortunately, that has not happened yet.
But if the next female candidate is another dishonest piece of human garbage like Hilary Clinton, I won't vote for her, and it won't be because of sexism.
Not really, there are been tons of shitty dudes in the front, heck one is right now. So can't say men are doing fine either.
Hopefully they pick a good one or women will never hear the end of it.
Though have to say, leadership isn't naturally a feminine quality, so women in power tend to over lead/micromanage and such. But time will tell.
Yes, but that's only because there's very few national-level female politicians I would consider for the role. Hell, there's very few *male* politicians I would vote for. As a side note, I don't believe in democracy; I want our next leader to be a man and woman of great will who'll take the seat of power by might and lead the country with justice, fairness, and wisdom.
Sex & gender doesn't matter as long as they are competent, have a history of helping people on poverty & low-class level, progressive, knowledgeable what their job is, is against corruption in government, has great negotiation skills, and is upfront and honest with the people instead of lying through their teeth.
From what I have seen from women in power. It is very bad. Women think based on their emotions. It's best to have Men in power so they can make the right choices in order to protect the people. Women would not like all world war rape victims they would accept it and so will the populations.
Honestly, I don't think most women have the natural traits to be in certain leadership roles, and the presidency is one of them. Women are too emotional and that tends to get in the way of making logical decisions. This isn't a put down of women. Women are better than men at some things and vice versa. We compliment each other.
Hey dude not to be rude or anything but I’m curious as to why you think emotions inhibit logical decisions. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Emotions are an important part of being human and is rather have a president who can be led by both. Compassion, regret, loyalty, etc. are all led by emotions and I wouldn’t want someone leading the country who doesn’t understand those things. Besides, the pattern I see in male presidents is not that they’re not “too emotional” it’s just that those emotions are fear anger and defensiveness, as is prevalent in a lot of men because those are the more “masculine” feelings. Emotions don’t usually inhibit logical thinking. And since we’ve never had a female president, who knows if she might be better than a lot of the other ones. There have been a lot of amazing female leaders throughout history.
I privilege competence over all, I don't care about gender, normally. Except that today, you never know if she earned her place, or got it because it's cool to have a woman in power.
Did people vote for her because she's a woman, or because she's good?
The best presidents have all been men. But we can easily say that because ONLY men have been president. There have also been a lot of really terrible presidents that were men. I think it is time to let a woman have a try.
I get really tired of all this crap about accomplishments based on Race and gender. It gets predictable and boring! I base my vote on the person NOT what is between their legs or the color of their skin. People really need to STOP this bullshit! It's divisive and as I said boring!
I have no problem with a woman as president as long as she isn't a megalomaniacal, mass murdering, psychopathic mob boss. (Guess who I am referring to.)
I actually supported the Tulsi Gabbard campaign and contributed money.
No. Because a couple reasons. For starters a woman will never get elected anytime soon. But that's not why it doesn't bother me. The woman that does eventually get elected is so far from a woman it isn't funny. I mean look at Hillary. And she couldn't even a human internet meme like Trump. Biden had no personality at all and even he was able to beat Trump.
If she's good, I'd say HELL yes to a woman president.
People didn't support Hillary because she was such a terrible candidate she made fucking TRUMP seem like a good idea. And to be sure, he's a terrible fucking idea. SUCH a bad idea, in fact, that HE made an old dude with dementia who likely won't get out of his first term without literally shitting himself in public seem like a good idea.
THAT'S how bad an idea Hillary was. Not because she was a woman--because she sucked shit.
@update: the voting percentages look pretty much identical with and without the women's votes.
If anything, it looks like chicks hate the idea of a chick president more than the guys do. Huh! It's almost like that's the complete opposite of the idiotic narrative you usually hear! What do you know?
I don't care what gender the president is, I will vote for them if their policies and beliefs align with my own.
There are several women I would vote for President, so no issue having a female President... if it's the right person.
Your update: Why are you blaming others for your error? Please show some respect for people that take the time to offer opinions to your post.
@avatiortom I admitted to my error but it’s simple respect for if someone is aiming a question toward a certain crowd, you don’t vote and answer to try and fuck up polling votes.
Not American. But Tulsi Gabbard or Candace Owens would be nice. As a Brit, Joe's government has been a disaster as far as I know. But nah. Gender isn't a problem. Values and competence matter. Who cares if it is a woman if she does her job well?
I'm fine with the concept of a female president, but most of the well known female political leaders I would not vote for, except Katie Porter, or Gretchen Whitmer.
Yes im shaking uncontrollably and my pee pee also shakes and i jump on one leg then fall down cus how stressed i am from that thought.
Dont they have female in germany that is in charge? Do peole jump off the cliff cus of that nope everyones just doing their thingSo get over yourself
“Get over yourself” this is an open question , not a question I was trying to argue about. So how about you get over yourself
No but I also come from a different country that has been run by a woman for the last 16 years and it´s not that much of a difference I´d say if a woman or man is at the head of the state.
I don't care about gender. As long as they aren't sowing seeds of division within our country. Just like how most of them are doing it now.
I don’t care if we have a female or male president.
What I care about is that they are a GOOD, Intelligent, Well Spoken, Honest, person.
That overall wants what’s best for the general population
I didn't like Hillary not because she was a woman but it because she sucks she was a major bitch and a horrible snake. But I definitely wouldn't mind voting for a female president but I would place a vote for anyone who can persuade me.
Race and Gender are not relevant to good leadership. They must be an American who worships the Constitution. And will not tolerate riots or corporate thieves or anything in between. Has the proper response to the enemies of Americans, like China and illegal aliens, etc. They must put this countries' citizens first over ever other person in the world. America is unique, and we need to keep the all tyrannical politicians in DC from destroying it.
You forgot to add the crooks of capital hill need to be charged on the highest level
You saw Hilary, you saw Kamala. If that's what a presidential candidate is going to be like then America would be screwed
From UK, we've had a couple of female Prime ministers, it dosent matter on their gender, just whether they are competent and can do the job well. Also need to build a good team around them
If they were looking out for the best interest of the Country and isn't a supporter of killing babies, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
I got to be honest, a little bit. But like any man, it really depends on the candidate... so I would vote for a women, yes.
Ultimately your isn't is just a mouthpiece for big business so it doesn't really matter what they have between their legs.
yes, but limited. not just any woman.
our choices haven't been so great, we aren't getting the caliber people. maybe they don't exist.
Don't feel discomfort because a female would be president... I just would like for her view points, beliefs and platform to be aligned with what I think would make a good President
As long as the presidential candidate isn't someone like Kamala Harris or Hilary Clinton, then no. Actually, Tulsi Gabbard would make a good president, and I'd vote for her if I were allowed to vote in U. S. elections.
Don't see much of a difference. Male, female, it's all the same too be at the polls. I'd vote for Hillary because she seems down to earth.
Depends on the woman, just like it depends on the man.
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