I don't donate. After my uncle passed they took his organs and they charged us over 200,000 for removing them and everything else. They don't talk about the bills you're hit with... we need a universal Healthcare system.
Im prolife and im all for donating organs. I've never voluntarily signed up for it but if asked, i wouldn't mind. Its not like i can do anything with em once gone. But it would be nice if family and friends could be at the top of the list for it
Donating your organs should be mandatory. What the hell else are you going to do with your organs once you’re dead? Don’t be selfish when someone else could clearly have more use for it than you do when you’re dead 😆
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Here in the UK, it basically is by the means of an 'opt out' system so you actively have to not be an organ donor
I'm not because mine are mostly wrecked but I do want my brain, extracted, placed in a jar and preserved in formaldehyde
Well the reason abortion is restricted is under the guise of ‘pro life’. But what seems to be interesting is any other policy that has pro life implications (such as organ donation) or abolishing the death penalty.. well those who claim to be pro life have tunnel vision focusing on abortion only.
Because those people still have freedoms to go to other states for abortion. There’s no indicator that being an organ donor makes you pro life. Actually On my license, when I was an organ donor at the time I was pro choice when I first turned 18.
I am an organ donor as well and in that sense I would consider myself pro-life as if something happened to me I would hope someone could be saved. But that’s just my view.
Also while women may have the freedom to travel to other states it is a massive inconvenience for women only designed under ‘pro life’.
I don’t see traveling to a different state as an inconvenience. People have been doing it no problem during the pandemic. Also if your views of abortion of pro choice, which you haven’t specified, then you aren’t pro life
Also you supporting abortion pretty much cancels out anything else you are trying prove. You can’t try to enforce others to be organ donors meanwhile you are pro choice
Idc what you are, you aren’t pro life however. You don’t need to go back and fourth. Making you pro choice for abortion doesn’t make you pro life at any expense
If you aren’t pro life in the most simplest form which is abortion, then you aren’t pro life. If you don’t like my views, you don’t need to reply back. You are choosing to reply back. You wanted to argue about this and it’s clear
And you are choosing to argue back, so just shut up if you aren’t a fan of the convo here. Damn the immaturity of people not being able to literally stop replying when they don’t want to converse anymore
Because where did I ever say I didn’t want to converse anymore? It’s you that said it, yet you still want to argue and have been arguing with everyone disagreeing with you. Christ people on this site are morons
Or maybe your views are just wrong and you don’t want to admit it? Who is restricting your rights? Your whole post is YOU wanting to restrict other peoples rights that AREN’T even hurting others. Not being an organ donor is not hurting anyone
What you just said makes absolutely no sense once again. Just because you are guilty of being pro life doesn’t mean you making up for it by being an organ donor makes you pro life. Not being an organ donor doesn’t put anyone at risk. Being pro choice puts majority of babies at risk. Your views are wrong and you know it. By the way, I respect any person with any view they have. I just don’t respect people that know their stance is wrong and then try’s to justify it with other crap. It’s like a racist person saying “but I have friends that are black, so I can’t be racist”
You are so guilty of being pro choice you want to take away peoples rights that aren’t even bothering anyone just so they can further more prove that they are pro life
Of course I was guilty of being pro choice. I supported the choice of killing off life. My views changed. Me projecting? Absolutely not. It’s your view of the fact that you complain of others restricting your rights, yet you want to restrict other peoples rights that don’t even bother you or affect anyone else so they can further prove “how much of a pro life they are” you said it those are your words
Actually I felt guilty only because killing is a Bible sin and I changed my views because I don’t want to go to hell. That’s not projection. You wanting to limit peoples rights because of how you personally feel about your definition of pro life is projection and guilt
Just because you don’t believe in the Bible, doesn’t mean I don’t lol again another view you are trying to push onto people. Texas didn’t ban abortion for no reason.
Um this is a web based question where people can come and go like they please so nothing is pushed either way unlike the annoying Jehovah Witnesses that used to come by pushing their views until I told them I was a witch.
Did I say I was Jehovah witness? And apparently you don’t want others to feel how they please because you have been arguing with people on this post that don’t agree or your definition of pro life and you trying to limit other peoples rights to fit your selfish view of what you think being pro life is all about
That’s not what you are implying here. And you also mentioned that I can twist the Bible to whatever I want when the Bible clearly mentions that killing is a sin.
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.”
I guess it’s easy to pick and choose which verses should be followed and which should mean something. Christians sin like everyone else but I guess it isn’t serious enough for eye gouging lol.
For that matter.. on a planet full of sinners one wonders who really perpetuates it if people continue being born.
If god trips someone and they fall in mud God can just accuse that person of being filthy.
Anyway good to know with the abortion I had that’s one less person born in a filthy, sinful world, right?
You realize there’s more versus that prove killing is a sin more than what you just decided to copy and paste off of google. And you sound like a piece of shit honestly
You realize once again there’s more than just that about murder in the Bible , but yet you are just google finding copying and pasting. You were being nice or are you just losing this argument?
Honestly why would you even care about the Bible being burned is when two of the most important verses for the New Testament you were completely oblivious to?
I have no idea? Dude I’m literally reading the Bible. I study it lol I know what you posted and I let you know those verses aren’t the only ones that mention killing in the Bible.
And clearly it’s important to YOU to win the argument because you have been mentioning for the past two hours of you wanting to leave the argument and you still have yet to
Why do I need to fight with you about the Bible? You don’t believe in it. And I am here to simply show you how full of shit you are with your arguments
You can make whatever choice you want for yourself as long as you aren’t forcing your will on someone or directly harming them. This applies to masks, vaccinations, drugs and alcohol use, abortion, blood and organ donation, etc.
well, perhaps people should get a bounty reward for donations? Although if all goes well for most people, they die of old age and their organs are not worth it at that point.
There's a wave of morons like you around. The majority of the Democrat party today polls that they want to lock people in camps and take away their children for not getting experimental vaccines that have known serious life threatening side effects. Many of you will have major health issues in the coming years, that will potentially lead you to being on organ donor lists. I wouldn't want to be responsible for saving your life and ensuring you exist to push tyranny on innocent people.
Sure... I've seen the polling numbers jackass. You tripling down on idiocy just hardens my resolve. It's a numbers game, and I would potentially save up to 8 of people like you in the event of an accident. It's not something I'm comfortable with.
You do realize that political viewpoint isn’t considered part of donation eligibility. If you want to take yourself of donor registration be aware you’re just as likely if not more to kill off those with your own views.
For thus says the Lord: “Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken, and the prey of the tyrant be rescued, for I will contend with those who contend with you, and I will save your children.
Make it mandatory for antiabortion people. If women have to give their organs against their will so the unborn can survive, so should antiabortion people give their organs against their will so people in need can survive
For the stupid people who says the fetus ain't her organ. We are talkikg about uterus idiots. Fetus can't survive without the uterus and women dont have to give their organ uterus
No; because by that logic they could start murdering people to get their organs to save the life of some rich drunk or debauchee whose irresponsible lifestyle brought him to the doors of death.
I have given up a bag of blood every month since the turn of the century. But my state won’t allow it to be used as a donor. Even though the neighboring state will use it. So I don’t think that they would allow my organs to be used.
Its a decision people should make from the kindness of their own heart. Not just that but if it were mandatory, more organs would be harvested than needed
Replying to the update: Just to be clear on my side; I'm not pro- or anti- anything. I just feel like everyone should have a choice of their own on how or what to do with their life. I said abortion should n0t be illegal because it should be the choice of the parents to have a child when they want and not have one when they don't want. Trust me, overpopulation is a serious issue. Unintentional overpopulation can be traumatising...
You don't desecrate the dead. People will kill each other over that. If it's somebody's wish that they not be dismembered after death, you should respect that. I heard that sometimes they will let you die if you have "donor" on your license.
No, organ donation should be mandatory. I don't care about people's imagined "bodily autonomy". You want bodily autonomy? Go live in the woods away from civilization. Until then, your decisions affect the collective and should be regulated as such.
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I don't donate. After my uncle passed they took his organs and they charged us over 200,000 for removing them and everything else. They don't talk about the bills you're hit with... we need a universal Healthcare system.
Im prolife and im all for donating organs. I've never voluntarily signed up for it but if asked, i wouldn't mind. Its not like i can do anything with em once gone. But it would be nice if family and friends could be at the top of the list for it
Donating your organs should be mandatory. What the hell else are you going to do with your organs once you’re dead? Don’t be selfish when someone else could clearly have more use for it than you do when you’re dead 😆
Here in the UK, it basically is by the means of an 'opt out' system so you actively have to not be an organ donor
I'm not because mine are mostly wrecked but I do want my brain, extracted, placed in a jar and preserved in formaldehyde
I don’t really see your point when abortion can still be done in many other states besides the ones that banned it.
Well the reason abortion is restricted is under the guise of ‘pro life’. But what seems to be interesting is any other policy that has pro life implications (such as organ donation) or abolishing the death penalty.. well those who claim to be pro life have tunnel vision focusing on abortion only.
I am curious why that is.
Because those people still have freedoms to go to other states for abortion. There’s no indicator that being an organ donor makes you pro life. Actually On my license, when I was an organ donor at the time I was pro choice when I first turned 18.
I am an organ donor as well and in that sense I would consider myself pro-life as if something happened to me I would hope someone could be saved. But that’s just my view.
Also while women may have the freedom to travel to other states it is a massive inconvenience for women only designed under ‘pro life’.
I don’t see traveling to a different state as an inconvenience. People have been doing it no problem during the pandemic. Also if your views of abortion of pro choice, which you haven’t specified, then you aren’t pro life
Are pro choice*
I think we will agree to disagree on this.
So then you aren’t pro life if you are pro choice with abortion. There’s no way around that one.
You saving a life but then being for killing off life does not make you pro life.
The term pro life isn’t exclusively owned by the anti abortion side. They may think it should be but one can be pro life on other matters too.
Hun if you are pro choice for abortion, then you aren’t pro life. If you are for killing off life when you choose to, that’s not pro life.
And actually those terms did originate from the anti abortion movement
Unsure why you feel very strongly about this.
Are you suggesting that the concept of pro-life only applies when it comes to abortion and really nothing else?
Why do I feel strongly? Because you are trying to claim to be something you aren’t. Those terms originated from abortion movements.
It isn’t uncommon for terms to originate with one concept then expand to include others as things change over time.
In fact the term pro life was first introduced in 1960 to include anti death penalty.
Should it be changed not to include the death penalty?
Dude it’s simple. If you aren’t pro life, you are pro choice.
If you support people unjustified death (abortion) there’s no way you can be pro life. You are supporting an unjustified way of killing
Also you supporting abortion pretty much cancels out anything else you are trying prove. You can’t try to enforce others to be organ donors meanwhile you are pro choice
Umm I’m not a dude. And I’m not going to keep going back and forth with you on this.
Idc what you are, you aren’t pro life however. You don’t need to go back and fourth. Making you pro choice for abortion doesn’t make you pro life at any expense
omfg you are annoying! I’m pro choice when it comes to abortion and always have been , on other things I am pro life.
I’m not going to let someone try to pigeonhole me like you are trying to do to suit their own viewpoints.
If you aren’t pro life in the most simplest form which is abortion, then you aren’t pro life. If you don’t like my views, you don’t need to reply back. You are choosing to reply back. You wanted to argue about this and it’s clear
It takes two people to argue , hon.
And you are choosing to argue back, so just shut up if you aren’t a fan of the convo here. Damn the immaturity of people not being able to literally stop replying when they don’t want to converse anymore
You’re still arguing here, and you claim I’m immature for responding? I don’t think it works that way.
Because where did I ever say I didn’t want to converse anymore? It’s you that said it, yet you still want to argue and have been arguing with everyone disagreeing with you. Christ people on this site are morons
Honestly it just seems to be the anti abortion crowd. I get along very well with people who don’t want to restrict my rights.
Or maybe your views are just wrong and you don’t want to admit it? Who is restricting your rights? Your whole post is YOU wanting to restrict other peoples rights that AREN’T even hurting others. Not being an organ donor is not hurting anyone
Ya no, my views aren’t wrong but not necessarily right either. That’s the interesting thing about personal views.
Interestingly several have posted here and I have not argued with them because I could understand where they came from.
On the other side if someone is going to make a post about vaccine conspiracies (unrelated to my question.. well..
What you just said makes absolutely no sense once again. Just because you are guilty of being pro life doesn’t mean you making up for it by being an organ donor makes you pro life. Not being an organ donor doesn’t put anyone at risk. Being pro choice puts majority of babies at risk. Your views are wrong and you know it. By the way, I respect any person with any view they have. I just don’t respect people that know their stance is wrong and then try’s to justify it with other crap. It’s like a racist person saying “but I have friends that are black, so I can’t be racist”
Just because you are guilty of being pro choice*
You are so guilty of being pro choice you want to take away peoples rights that aren’t even bothering anyone just so they can further more prove that they are pro life
I’m sorry? How did you infer that I feel guilty?
Because of a question that I posed?
Are you feeling guilty about being pro choice at 18? If so don’t project that onto me.
Of course I was guilty of being pro choice. I supported the choice of killing off life. My views changed. Me projecting? Absolutely not. It’s your view of the fact that you complain of others restricting your rights, yet you want to restrict other peoples rights that don’t even bother you or affect anyone else so they can further prove “how much of a pro life they are” you said it those are your words
Okay so you felt guilty. I haven’t and I still don’t but you assumed based on your experience I did or should.
That’s projecting, hun.
I posted a question out of interest. Not guilt.
And more to the point I haven’t stated I think organ donation should be mandatory although I would not object to that..
.. because I’m pro-life in that instance.
Actually I felt guilty only because killing is a Bible sin and I changed my views because I don’t want to go to hell. That’s not projection. You wanting to limit peoples rights because of how you personally feel about your definition of pro life is projection and guilt
No you posted a question to argue your point if people chose not to agree with your point of view
Anyone can use the Bible to twist their own views.
It’s often used for the subjugation of women.
But what better way to control people in this life by making interpretations in a book for the next?
There are thousands of near death experiences and most don’t give the vision of a god based on the Bible, but rather a more spiritual god
Actually there were a few I disagreed with but I didn’t argue with them. Try rereading the answers again please
“Anyone can use the Bible to twist their own views” so are you insinuating the Bible condones killing?
You have been arguing with people on here since you first posted the question, who are you kidding?
I don’t know. Ask the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, or those who didn’t get to go on the Ark.
Or ask those killed during the crusades.
Just because you don’t believe in the Bible, doesn’t mean I don’t lol again another view you are trying to push onto people. Texas didn’t ban abortion for no reason.
Um this is a web based question where people can come and go like they please so nothing is pushed either way unlike the annoying Jehovah Witnesses that used to come by pushing their views until I told them I was a witch.
Did I say I was Jehovah witness? And apparently you don’t want others to feel how they please because you have been arguing with people on this post that don’t agree or your definition of pro life and you trying to limit other peoples rights to fit your selfish view of what you think being pro life is all about
We’re you able to get a response from those killed in the Bible as to whether the Bible condones killing?
No? Oh too bad.. :/
2 people to argue, hun.
Again, you not believing the Bible and what it says doesn’t mean I need to not believe the Bible and what it says
You can believe anything you want lol.
That’s not what you are implying here. And you also mentioned that I can twist the Bible to whatever I want when the Bible clearly mentions that killing is a sin.
Matthew 18:9
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.”
I guess it’s easy to pick and choose which verses should be followed and which should mean something. Christians sin like everyone else but I guess it isn’t serious enough for eye gouging lol.
For that matter.. on a planet full of sinners one wonders who really perpetuates it if people continue being born.
If god trips someone and they fall in mud God can just accuse that person of being filthy.
Anyway good to know with the abortion I had that’s one less person born in a filthy, sinful world, right?
You realize there’s more versus that prove killing is a sin more than what you just decided to copy and paste off of google. And you sound like a piece of shit honestly
More excuses to excuse your guilt
Have a nice night Kyleelyn.
Why is that? Because your argument is stupid?
Matthew 5:43-44, 1 Corinthians 13:4-8
Honestly the only verses in the Bible I find useful. The rest can be burned.
I was being nice by saying have a night. Interpretation of that is a reflection of you, not me.
You realize once again there’s more than just that about murder in the Bible , but yet you are just google finding copying and pasting. You were being nice or are you just losing this argument?
The rest can be burned because you don’t believe in the Bible, it’s that simple
You have no idea what was even in the verses I posted do you.
If it’s so important for you to ‘win’ an argument on this site and keep up about murder, then fine whatever.
Honestly why would you even care about the Bible being burned is when two of the most important verses for the New Testament you were completely oblivious to?
I have no idea? Dude I’m literally reading the Bible. I study it lol I know what you posted and I let you know those verses aren’t the only ones that mention killing in the Bible.
I personally don’t care if you dont believe in the Bible or not, you are just proving my point over and over again
And clearly it’s important to YOU to win the argument because you have been mentioning for the past two hours of you wanting to leave the argument and you still have yet to
Omfg. Okay, ‘dude’. Since you claim you read it please tell me where in those verses it mentions killing.
Hint: you can’t.
At this point you’re just here to argue for the sake of arguing with me.
Why do I need to fight with you about the Bible? You don’t believe in it. And I am here to simply show you how full of shit you are with your arguments
You have said two times in the past two hours that you are done arguing yet you come back.
Usually when I say ‘have a nice night’ , normal people respond back ‘have a nice night’ .. or ‘you too’
But that’s most people. Unsure what you are trying to prove
Why do I owe you a “have a nice night” ? Most people walk away when they don’t want to argue anymore
Idiots like you keep arguing even though they don’t want to
Bless your heart, hon.
Bless yours for continuing to argue even though you don’t want to and you are 33 years old. Your maturity is definitely not 33
You can make whatever choice you want for yourself as long as you aren’t forcing your will on someone or directly harming them. This applies to masks, vaccinations, drugs and alcohol use, abortion, blood and organ donation, etc.
well, perhaps people should get a bounty reward for donations? Although if all goes well for most people, they die of old age and their organs are not worth it at that point.
No. Moving body parts around between humans sounds like dark witchcraft and unnatural.
Other people can have a different opinion. But they don't get to force other's to live by their opinion.
Nope. I'm currently registered as one, but people like you have made me change my mind. I'll be dropping the designation in the near future.
I agree people should have choice. Yet if it’s because of random comments on the web well you do you.
There's a wave of morons like you around. The majority of the Democrat party today polls that they want to lock people in camps and take away their children for not getting experimental vaccines that have known serious life threatening side effects. Many of you will have major health issues in the coming years, that will potentially lead you to being on organ donor lists. I wouldn't want to be responsible for saving your life and ensuring you exist to push tyranny on innocent people.
I tend not to get swallowed up by conspiracy nonsense but you do you.
Sure... I've seen the polling numbers jackass. You tripling down on idiocy just hardens my resolve. It's a numbers game, and I would potentially save up to 8 of people like you in the event of an accident. It's not something I'm comfortable with.
You do realize that political viewpoint isn’t considered part of donation eligibility. If you want to take yourself of donor registration be aware you’re just as likely if not more to kill off those with your own views.
Hope you’re fine with that
That would be a good thing for the world. It is morally satisfying.
For thus says the Lord: “Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken, and the prey of the tyrant be rescued, for I will contend with those who contend with you, and I will save your children.
The book of Isaiah is Old Testimant. In the past 2000 years he really hasn’t had an interest in children being slaughtered in wars.
Or were you trying to make a point about abortion to suit your views by twisting the context of the verse?
There's twisting or deceiving on my part. That's your role. I don't mince words.
You earned that like a motherfucker... Remember it when you need it.
Make it mandatory for antiabortion people. If women have to give their organs against their will so the unborn can survive, so should antiabortion people give their organs against their will so people in need can survive
For the stupid people who says the fetus ain't her organ. We are talkikg about uterus idiots. Fetus can't survive without the uterus and women dont have to give their organ uterus
No; because by that logic they could start murdering people to get their organs to save the life of some rich drunk or debauchee whose irresponsible lifestyle brought him to the doors of death.
This is a fair counterpoint.
I have given up a bag of blood every month since the turn of the century. But my state won’t allow it to be used as a donor. Even though the neighboring state will use it.
So I don’t think that they would allow my organs to be used.
I’m sorry :(
Ugh that was not the emoji I wanted. 😞
Its a decision people should make from the kindness of their own heart. Not just that but if it were mandatory, more organs would be harvested than needed
I believe both should be optional. One concern I have is: why is everyone in this app asking for illegalising abortion? Why can't it be an option too?
Replying to the update:
Just to be clear on my side; I'm not pro- or anti- anything.
I just feel like everyone should have a choice of their own on how or what to do with their life.
I said abortion should n0t be illegal because it should be the choice of the parents to have a child when they want and not have one when they don't want.
Trust me, overpopulation is a serious issue. Unintentional overpopulation can be traumatising...
You don't desecrate the dead. People will kill each other over that. If it's somebody's wish that they not be dismembered after death, you should respect that. I heard that sometimes they will let you die if you have "donor" on your license.
Dr. House comes to mind hehe, oh his dead anyway alright takes his lungs.
No but abortion should be if there’s a life threatening issue with the mom or baby
organ donations do save lives though
No, organ donation should be mandatory. I don't care about people's imagined "bodily autonomy". You want bodily autonomy? Go live in the woods away from civilization. Until then, your decisions affect the collective and should be regulated as such.
You can't make vaccines mandatory, what chance organ donation?
Nope. I don't want my organs going to some person I don't know and probably won't like.
giving up organs is one thing, but giving up a body entirely to science is not cool
i also think if a baby is going to be aborted they should get some stem cells