However a big reason many in the UK voted to leave the European Union was to stop Eastern Europeans coming here and to kick them out.
So given the current situation if masses of refugees turn up in your country how do you think people will react.
Canada's been accepting refugees for decades. We accepted Egyptions and Saudis 5 years ago, Syrians 8 years ago, Peruvians and Croatians some years before that.
I'm the son of one myself. I'm a maternal First-Gen Canadian. mein mutter was born in Stuttgart, Baden-Wurttemburg in 1963 and she grew up mostly in Brandenburg and Berlin.
She immigrated with mein Opa in 1984 at the height of Communist tensions between the East and West (she was from the East which is the bad side, my mother always likes to say our family's been on the wrong side of every way since 1866 in the German War.
Dad's side is less interesting.
Yes with a doubt because Ukraines are Europeans as well. There culture is similar if not the same as ours why not. Also it´s mostly the vulnerable parts of the population that are fleeing meaning women, children and old people.
I don´t see a problem because many Ukraines can even speak English especially when they come from the bigger cities like Lemberg or Kiew.
Of course, those who are actual refugees and not military aged men. They are Europeans so they would fit in European countries and not try to change them into the thing they're running away from. We should always help real refugees who pose no terrorist threat to our own citizens and whose culture is not critically conflicting with our own.
Yeah. A big concern because India have been getting refugees and immigrants all the time. Also we gotta help them. However I will be concerned about population control nonetheless for now helping them is more important.
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So we let 2 million+ stream through the southern border, then take in hundreds of thousand from Afghanistan. Now Ukraine? Each one costs taxpayers $30,000-$ 50,000 per person per year. It is the gift that keeps on giving. The endgame is to get more democrat voters of course, all at taxpayer's expense. Meanwhile our veterans and elderly are ignored.
At least you're not a hypocrite about it like everyone else
Does YOUR state allow undocumented people to get a driver's licence?
Do those states that do say that all you need to register to vote is a driver's licence?
I'm willing to bet that the answer to both these questions is no. (istr a flag on some driver's licences indicating citizenship.)
Yes, you do know he didn't vote. You're just fear mongering.
"Mass. Secretary of State Elections Division
U. S. citizens applying for or renewing a driver’s license or state ID at the RMV, or applying for health insurance through Mass Health or the Commonwealth Health Care Connector will be automatically registered to vote unless they opt out."
www.mass.gov/.../massachusetts-law-about-elections-and-voting
I'll make it easier for you:
"Mass. Secretary of State Elections Division
U. S. citizens applying for..."
www.mass.gov/.../massachusetts-law-about-elections-and-voting
@goaded okay- "A person who is not eligible to vote and who becomes registered under this provision shall not be found on that basis to have made a false claim to citizenship or to have committed an act involving moral turpitude, unless such person affirmatively asserts that the person is a citizen of the United States. Where a person who is not eligible to vote becomes registered under this provision without affirmatively accepting registration, that person’s voter registration shall be considered to have been effected with official authorization and at no fault of the person so registered. "
This means that if an illegal alien with a drivers license gets registered to vote automatically and they did not request it, they will not be held responsible. The whole thing was set up so the democrats will get more votes from the welfare class. People of color are no longer buying what they are selling so they need to find a new voter block.
You're mistaking making it easier for eligible people to vote for partisanship. It's not like Florida being totally on board with mail-in ballots when they were used by Republican voters and stopping them as soon as they started being used by Democrats as well.
"(1) Nothing in this section or in section 42G shall be construed to change the substantive qualifications of voters established by this chapter or the constitution.
(2) Nothing in this section shall be construed to interfere with the registrars’ duties under sections 37, 38, 47B, 48 and 49 to ensure that the names of persons who are ineligible to vote do not appear on the register of voters.
(3) Nothing in this section shall be construed to interfere with the right of any person to decline to register to vote for any reason."
www.mass.gov/.../mass-general-laws-c51-ss-65
@goaded it is making it easier to cheat. They know that there are not enough resources to check every mail in ballot and to make sure all voting machines are honest. During the last election there was so much confusion that nobody could tell what was real and what was fake. Evidence was destroyed before it could be examined and things were done in the middle of the night that could not be verified. Voter ID does not preven anyone from voting. Nobody could come upo with a single instanceof anyone not being able to get an ID to vote. these IDs are free of charge to everyone.
And it was Republican officials doing that half the time? And the Republicans that got elected even when Trump didn't, their elections were fine and above board? Just a significant number of ballots with anyone but Trump for president and Republicans down ticket is proof that he lost fair and square. Even the fraudit in Arizona had to admit they found nothing, and Biden actually increased his lead.
Yes. I would have no problem with Ukrainian neighbors, and in fact I statistically already have quite a few. The area of the United States that I live historically has had a lot of immigrants from that region. They call themselves "Germans from Russia" but they mostly trace their heritage back to land that is now Ukraine.
I'm in the USA.
I'll say the same thing as with the Syrians.
Yes, we'll gladly take some... Syria and the Ukraine are practically on the other side of the globe so I'd expect the majority to relocate to the neighboring countries.
I'd gladly take in some though.
I don't think we should in UK. They're talking about 100k refugees, where do you house them? Our housing stock, hospitals, schools are struggling with under investment anyway. I'm sorry for what's happening to them, I wish the world's governments could work out a solution, but I don't believe continually allowing large numbers of refugees into the country is a good idea.
The US took in well over 2 million illegal immigrants (plus a couple hundred thousand legal immigrants) in just the past year - we've more than done our part.
@goaded Yes, it's a Breitbart number. And a CNN number. And an MSNBC number. Because they all come from the same place: the US Customs and Border Patrol website:
www.cbp.gov/.../southwest-land-border-encounters
While this graph is arranged based on their fiscal year, it's not difficult to do the addition to find the calendar year number. Nor is it hard to see the massive increase that started once Biden took office. AND, these numbers don't include illegals that weren't intercepted by the BP in some capacity - these are just the ones the BP is aware of.
www.nytimes.com/.../...mmigration-record-high.html
This is from last October, and Y2Y stats at that time was already 1.7M - and that included 3 months of the low stats from the previous year.
Well here lies the dilemma, Our southern boarder to Mexico has needed to be closed for sometime now to stop the influx of illegal people entering into America. We are a country built on refugees and I am all for them coming as my ancestors did. They did it legally though through the right channels. For Ukrainians, do it legally and come join us...
yes for sure, I've met Ukranians in several areas of USA. really good, ahrd working family oriented people.
I've seen Russians but haven't known any other than "watered down" by generation American russians.
Yes not a problem.
We are looking at swapping all of the Chavs and blokes from Glasgow and Liverpool with them.
they are joining the international brigade.
fair swap
I'm not clear on US policy, but I would be willing to accept one, or perhaps two, young Ukrainian women ages 18-25 into my home as refugees. This offer is for humanitarian reasons only, of course.
Yes. The US needs more Eastern European immigrants. They tend to be civilized, educated, and productive citizens who appreciate a system founded on liberty.
Eastern Europeans looking for work is one thing. Ukrainian citizens trying to escape a European War is different. I hope Britain will take them in. They can go to parties in Downing Street...
People are fickle as fuck. Especially the English.
But the joke is that they will "accept" all those Ukrainian birds, now that mail order brides from Ukraine are not a thing.
I'm not sure what the official US reaction would be, but at least some Americans would welcome Ukrainian refugees. I work with a few who emigrated from Ukraine years ago.
if they're just innocent citizens who don't want to be part of this and won't cause much trouble, then sure.
No way would I ever let this filth into my country.
I was against leaving Eu anyway. And I think countries should always let people in, don't agree with boarders that keep people out of a country.
Well officially we're welcoming all of them. That's the government's stance. The US publicly said they'd accept any Ukrainian refugees, and that was before Russia actually started bombing. It was as soon as Russia moved in as "peacekeepers".
Absolutely. It's all women and children who will want to return home as soon as it's safe.
Yes, I think we should let them in and have an area for them to camp, until the government figures out what to do.
I live in the UK - I would 100% welcome and accept them