Do you think it’s double standard to be racist to Asians as a black woman?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I am against all kinds of racism.

I am Eastern European, have a black best friend and lived in Asia for a year falling in love with hospitable Asian people and have an Asian boyfriend, who’s the best man I’ve ever met.

I hate all kinds of racism and always stood up for people who were the victim of it.

The other day I came across with a black woman (online) who was sharing very disrespectful and racist opinions against Asians and I disliked it because , I feel like some people have double standards when it’s about racism.

Even if they’ve been the victims of racism themselves, they feel like it’s okay to be racist to others. It’s not.

I feel like these kind of people don’t deserve any respect from me or anyone and they also can’t ask others to not be racist towards them if they act racist to other races.

For the last few years everyone’s included myself talked about BlackLivesMatter

Having heard of many hate crime committed to innocent Asians during the pandemic, I feel like people should also discuss that

AsianLiveMatterToo

What are your thoughts about it?

[jasco]

All lives matter. Even tho the its orginal purpose was to back lash the BLM movement. I think it better used now more than ever because so many people across the world are hurting

[Andres77]

All lives matter and all racism is wicked.
And black olives matter too.

[OlderAndWiser]

My girlfriend was born in China and lived there until she was 29 years old. I have dated women from other countries and other races and never really thought about it. I dated them because I was attracted to them and not because of their race.

[ohshee]

No I don't because I'm not racist and I think all Races should get off the fucking planet this is been going on way too long the greatest evil on this planet is called ignorance if you are ignorant and you're not smart enough to figure that out and you should get off the planet we are all 97% the same DNA the other 3% is given to us by our parents not all three about 2% but we are identical twins all of us except for that last 2% and if you do not understand that get off the fucking planet I'm sick and tired of people fucking being racist there's no reason for it it's because they're not smart enough to figure it out that in that last 3% of DNA that we were again God that has Common Sense he said look I don't know where these people are going to end up on this planet but there are extreme harsh conditions so I'm going to give you a gene that will make you adapt no matter what situation you're in no matter the weather no matter what your body can adapt and that's where you get pigment change color of skin because your body has adapted from your great-great-great-grandparents and if people don't understand that go fuck yourself and get off the fucking planet it's time to grow up and quit being ignorant and feeling sorry for themselves because either they have or they don't have you either have or you don't have because that's your choice that's the bottom line right there you want it go get it go work your ass off and get it I Quit judging other people because they have it and you don't get off the fucking planet if you were racist

[ChrisMaster69]

Racism occurs everywhere and it’s this crazy thing about bigotry, where you have someone abused about their ethnicity, will happily abuse someone else’s.

I've spent a lot of time in China and they are very racist, however it’s not always that visible as foreigners are not driving about as much and tend to be hotel to supplier etc.

it is very much built in to their fabric.

A friend of mine who’s family is from Kenya, will complain (rightly so) about the police crazy attitude to car stops, he gets stopped far more than me and we have same car. However, he is fairly homophobic and will bitch on about gays, we all point out that his attitude sucks, he’s being victimised for his skin colour but is happy to victimise someone for their sexuality…

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Yes, I am sure some Asians can be racist as well and that’s wrong the same way the racism from any other people would be wrong.

At my time in China, I didn’t speak that good Chinese and I’ve not encountered much racism there, at least not a single Chinese had made me feel bad.

I met my best friend there, he is black and gay and he has lived in China for many years, he says in USA it was hard for him to live as a black man who also happens to be homosexual. In China he has his own business, also is a professor of Arts in University and he publishes his first book soon, he feels more fulfilled and happy.

I was always surprised how could he feel more accepted in China rather than USA, but he still lives there so it means he’s happy to be there. I am not saying China is better than USA, far from it, I just state it as an example that he feels comfortable to be there and hasn’t suffered from racism.

For me the perfect representative of Chinese people was always my boyfriend, who is the least racist and the least homophobic person I’ve met, much more kind and open-minded than I am.

Not a single Chinese person has mentioned anything racist towards black or white people in conversation with me, however, there was a black girl who has talked some racist things about Asians to me thinking I would find that amusing.

I disliked it because first, my boyfriend is Asian and I always make sure I am nice to everyone, regardless of their color. So I want them to do the same. Especially as someone who has had bad experiences of racism, why would they be racists themselves…

For your Kenyan friend, does he live in Asia or the UK?

[ChrisMaster69]

He Lives in the UK

Also China are even racist towards themselves.

What you put reads as China is not racist, which is wrong

www.hrw.org/.../china-covid-19-discrimination-against-africans

www.opendemocracy.net/.../

qz.com/.../

There is a huge amount of systemic racism there.

Then again a lot of people are blind to it.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

China is a communist country with lots of “brain-washing” from government, I am not saying Chinese can’t be racist, what I am saying is that I haven’t encountered racism from Chinese people in my one year of loving there.

I don’t have any interest to act like an attorney of China, just because I love a Chinese man doesn’t mean I think it’s a perfect country.

And everything, I’ve told above is just sharing my experience, from what I’ve witnessed and have been part of, not trying to claim a whole nation is a saint. If someone claims it, they are either ignorant or a liar.

So… Why are we still talking about China? If I witnessed anyone being racist to someone else, I’d call them out the same way, whether they are Chinese, Nigerian, French or American.

This question is about Asians who live abroad and I’ve read about quite a lot of murders and beatings to Asian people in USA, just because they are Asian during the pandemic.

I even emphasized that I was concerned about the hate crime towards Asian people just because of their race.

I was inspired to ask the question because I’ve read some racist and discriminating comments towards Asian from a black woman and this specific case made me think about this whole topic. That it’s a matter of empathy, that a person whose people have fought really hard against racism should feel how bad it is and not be racist to others either.

Do we both agree, that racism is stupid, whether it’s from Black, white or Asian?
Do we both agree that you cannot and shouldn’t discriminate against minorities?

I think we do.

But if you have questions, feel free to ask me.

[menina]

Racism is always wrong no matter what your background is.
I'm NOT trying to defend the woman you're talking about but many Asians are racist, so she probably had her fair share of racist experiences with Asian people. Again, I'm NOT saying that she's right in being racist, I'm just saying that I can see where she might come from.
But yes it's sad to see someone who is part of a minority discriminating against another minority.

May I ask where are you from?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Eastern Europe.

And I agree with your opinion.

Where I live both, black and Asians are in minority and one discriminating against another one is not really the best thing if you are against racism of any kind.

I am sure, there are racist Asians as well and they are the wrong the same way like others.

I feel like when you fight against racism and have such a long history of fighting against it, it’s not a good thing to discriminate against other races.

Out of empathy at least, because your people has been through the hell of racism as well, so I would just expect that girl to be more understanding and kind to other races.

[menina]

You probably don't want to say which country you're from. It's ok.

I'm glad you agree with me. And I agree with everything you said now. Being racist when you experience racism makes no sense.

[Sixgunsound]

If someone experiences racism and doesn’t like it, wouldn’t they be in the best position to understand why not to do it to others? I’ll never understand people or movements that were victims of racism themselves using that to justify their own racism, as if two wrongs make it right or punishing people in the future who had nothing to do with the original events changes the past. Blaming all the descendants, as well as people who aren’t even related to the people who did the original wrong just because they are the same race demonstrates the agitator’s racism. It’s like hooking up at a virginity rally or bombing for peace, doing the thing you are fighting against just makes you a hypocrite, not stunning or brave.

[Whaler]

I’m Asian so I do have some stories. One of the biggest ID like to mention is the whole #stopasianhate movement. It was circulating the internet and news for a while until the statistics came out that the majority of Asian hate crimes were committed by black folk. After that no one talked about it anymore. I think it’s incredibly sad how they will pander to the bigger minority.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

What are your stories?

I’d like to hear about them…

That’s what I am trying to say… Some representatives of minorities hate when they are victims of racism while they justify racism to other minorities.

[Whaler]

I’m thankful that I was never beaten up by random people likely due to the area I’m from. However I did have to deal with some crude racist jokes. Though honestly I’m not all that against dark humor so long as it’s funny. Also a lot of stereotyping. The internet is where it gets really bad tho. Lots of slurs are thrown at you, funnily enough by people on the side that say they’re against racism.

[hahahmm]

Some people are racist.. it doesn't matter what skin color they are. Yes, there's lots of hypocrites in the world. It happens. That's why it's good to not blindly believe stuff based on emotion or who shouts the loudest. Best to be fair minded and ask questions before making decisions.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Yes, that’s what I was trying to say with this post.
Only white people are assumed to be racist, but I guess that’s not the truth.

But for me that was surprising that other races even though they are the victim of racism as well can be just as, if not more racist to others.

And I find it weird because why would I put another person in a condition which I’ve suffered as well?

So, people who are racist regardless of their own race, don’t awaken any kind of respect in me.

[hahahmm]

But, people have been starting wars for eons, knowing that it doesn't feel good when invaders rape/murder your loved ones so it's just human nature. A lot of modern society is about trying to convince people that the world is a safe place & if you ever have a problem you can call the cops to have it fixed. But the reality is that if power/water stopped working for even 1 week in the first world... the system would collapse & a lot of people would be acting like wild animals. Not all.. but most.

[hahahmm]

There's also a saying.. hard times create strong people... easy times create weak people. Or something like that. So the people who whine the most about a lot of things, actually haven't even suffered. The people who have really seen bad stuff either take action or live with it. But they aren't yapping endlessly and creating drama cause life is too short for that.

[CandiceK]

Please never call this a double standard. To suggest that, is to suggest that there is some kind of standard for racism.

Another term I despise, is "reverse racism." What the fuck does that even mean?

Yes, I feel sorry for Asians and the way they were treated by blacks after the Kung Flu hit. It was wrong, and it was flat out racist. Our pathetic president said he was going to nominate a black woman to the supreme court. What the fuck? Why not an Asian man? Why not a Latino woman? Why not a native American?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Kung Flu hit? 😂

[CandiceK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCPT0I189nA

[Anonymous]

I was made fun of by a black guy because my eyes were slanted. He said Asians aren’t humans. They are aliens, and that’s why they look the way they do. He didn’t know I could hear him. He assumed I didn’t speak English.
Anyone can be racist against any race.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I am sorry for your experience…

I hope you know your eyes are beautiful and never let anyone look down on you because of your race.

My boyfriend is Asian, the most special person in the whole world for me and I love his eyes, I love his everything and I am proud of him.

Not everyone is like that guy who you met.

There are bad and good people in all races.

Don’t get your heart broken because of such encounters ❤️

[Opinion Owner]

Thank you for saying that ❤️

How long have you been together?

I know. I don’t think that guy was a bad guy either. He probably just didn’t have much exposure to Asians, so he was ignorant about how offensive his statements were.

You are so nice 😊

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Will be 3 years on April 28th.

I love him so much… Never get tired of saying that.

Yes, probably you are right about him having less exposure to Asians.

I am happy you didn’t take those words personally or got affected by it, l believe people who travel around the world, or read a lot of books cannot be racist because they’ve seen the beauty of people of all colors and races, so he just sounds ignorant to me.

And thank you 💓

[Opinion Owner]

Awe Happy early anniversary!!!

How did you meet?

Yeah, exposure to different races, cultures, sexualities, and religions definitely helps people be more open minded, empathetic, and compassionate about other people. Unfortunately, no matter who someone is or where they are from, they were most likely exposed to stereotypes about other people. Due to this, many people have prejudices. We just need to recognize when we start thinking in this way and correct it.

You’re welcome ☺️

[Seinna]

If you're racist you're racist that's it.

Though depending on what she said, her dislike might not be because of the person's race. If she's black and from Africa she might specifically dislike Chinese because they are exploiting her continent and possibly her own country. Nobody talks about it but it's true. I certainly wouldn't be happy if it was happening in my country... in fact it is, but by Jews and when we call them out on it are labelled anti semites even though they're destroying our country and aren't even semites to begin with.

So yes, racism as in prejudice against people who did nothing to you just because of their ethnicity is bad. But a criticism and dislike of people who take advantage of you and even abuse you is understandable to me, though often mislabeled as racism or some type of anti- or -phobia.

[dorksided1]

Yes of course, I am half Asian and have gotten BS remarks from all colors all my life. I work in healthcare so I get it way more then I should sometimes from even patients

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I am sorry for that…

What kind of comments do they make?

[dorksided1]

there are specific names for Asians, that I won't repeat

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Why would they call you names when all you do is to care about their health?

I am saddened how evil people can be.

And do you reply them? How do you protect yourself?

I am asking because I am curious if and how those remarks affected you and how do you deal with it…

My boyfriend of 3 years is Asian and I would be so heartbroken and angry if anyone treats him bad because of his skin or eyes which I love so much… So far we have only lived in Asia together, and in my surroundings no one dares to say racist remarks knowing I have an Asian boyfriend, they all show respect, but I worry if anyone will be racist to him or our future children when I am not around, I’ll feel hurt.

[dorksided1]

I live in a rural part of the state its hyper white, I stay monotone and treat them like children. That you cannot be speaking to me in that way, no, a lot of that

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

That’s a good way to deal with it.

Don’t pay attention to their words and don’t get those words close to your heart.

I think Asians are very beautiful. ❤️

[dorksided1]

That is the only way, you know? me yelling will get me nowhere and certainly won't change anything. I learned a long time ago there are people in life you just can't reason with unfort. Thank you for the support

[Hanrej]

Well... Ranting about other people, cultural differences and how it may cause problems isn't even racism really. We see a lot of this in my country where any and all critisism gets hushed down under the label of racism to the point that it's impossible to cooperate with eachother. Anyone having a problem with someone else is pretty much prohibited from uttering a syllable of critique and while that certainly is effective against confrontations it also prohibits cooperation as people won't be comfortable working togeather.

In my mind people should be allowed to say whatever the hell they want... And see how their support and respect is effected by their own choice of words.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I am not talking about ranting.

That woman was too aggressive towards Asians, that was more than just ranting.

[SlothySlob]

Oh, shush you. Asians as just as bad if not worse when it comes to racism. This whole thing "Black lives matter", "Asian lives matter too" is absolute bullshit because you're openly saying that a person of a certain skin color is more important than others.
You're not a decent person, you are not more virtuous. We're all racist because everyone has their own idea of what racism is, even if we have a definition for the word.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Yeah, but I can’t be angry for other people to act racist to me, if I am racist myself.

How can I demand others to respect me if I don’t show them respect as well?

And black people should know it well, I myself have never experienced racism and I still condemn it and as a black person who’s well aware how awful and painful racism can be, how can they do the same to Asians? I mean be racist to them?

[SlothySlob]

I believe that the 7 deadly sins that are represented in Christian belief are actions that are most innate to humans, something you'd do subconsciously.
It's easier to blame others, it's easier to resort to violence, it's easier to laze around, it's easier to boast about someone else's achievements.
Judging people by how they look is something that children do, but being an adult is hard and takes conscious decisions to be.
By pretending to be the champion for Asians, if anything you're stepping into the stereotype of "I'm white, I'll fix this because I'm more important than anyone".

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I don’t think I am more important than anyone else.

It’s part of my personality for always protect the ones who need it.

Starting from school I always stood up for bullied people, how does it translate into me feeling superior than others?

I just think I hate injustice, hence why I chose law as my profession.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I have Asian boyfriend, I love him and I might as well have half-Asian kids in future,

Shouldn’t I be concerned about their future?

[SlothySlob]

As an attorney? May be a noble profession, but in some cases you don't get to choose your clients. I hope you're high enough to be able to choose. Then again, you're defending someone based on someone else's basis of justice.

You saw yourself as the hero? How pretentious are you that you can't see that you've actually done more harm instead of help. If anything you just reinforce the victims feeling that they can't do anything unless someone else deals with their problems.

You want a brighter future for your children? Boo hoo, cry me a river. Instead of calling them kids, you're labeling them as "half Asian".

You're presenting yourself as some defender of justice, some legal avenger. How am I to see you as anything as the stereotype I presented before?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Lol, I just state the fact that unlike me they won’t be white, they will be mixed race, half Asian.

And I won’t tolerate anyone being racist to them or my family.

How do I fall into a stereotype?

If I follow your logic,
I should stand up for bullied people,
I should not stand for the victims of racism and so on.

Then what kind of Christian are you, preaching about the 7 deadly sins?

So, for you, it is okay if a black person is racist to Asians however it’s not okay if someone is racist to a black person?

Because you make me the bad guy in this story, while the only thing I am trying to state in this text, is that it’s not okay to be racist, whether you are black, white or Asian.

Common sense.

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

I'm not sure why you're singling out black people but ok. If you're racist, you're racist. That's it and that's all. And please don't act like Asians are innocent because a lot of them tend to treat black people like shit. I've experienced it from them on multiple occasions.

[Hangry06]

This question basically implies it's okay for white people to be racist against minorities. Doesn't mayter your race or whatever discrimination you had gone through, not all people are empathetic. Also there's no reason to be empathetic. If she chooses to be racist towards a certain group, her skin colour plays no role in it

[CandiceK]

This question doesn't imply anything about white people. Read it again. You felt the need to throw white people into a question about blacks and Asians.

[Hangry06]

@CandiceK Aiii triggered white woman🙄

[CandiceK]

No, you just made yourself look stupid. Good job.

[FinalFantasyBro]

Racism is racism and unfortunately everyone and even other black coming from a black man can be equally as racist. I definitely wish people wasn't racist but racism is so prominent in our society it has been one of humanity atrocious acts among each other.

[KostasKouvalis]

No, not at all, considering that Black people are treated like shit in Asian countries.
Asians hospitable😂
Asians literally hate everyone who doesn't look and think like them. I guess it doesn't feel so good when the same kind of hatred is directed towards them. If you hate racists, how can you be sympathetic towards Asians. I think it's completely justified to be racist against people who hate your race.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I’ve not felt any kind of hatred from them.

And my boyfriend is not racist, on the contrary he’s the best person I’ve met, much better of a person than me.

[KostasKouvalis]

Just because you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean it doesn't happened.

[Imsmurter1]

@KostasKouvalis wow are you black or something? You are just racist no excuse no “you hate me so I hate you” bullshit. Even though there are blacks who attack and kill my fellow Asians I don’t hate all blacks. My boss is even a black Ghana-Canadian and we are on good terms. But racist people like you I despise. Also there are many African immigrants in Asia who are living a decent life. You are just racist and despicable you worthless scum @KostasKouvalis

[JoyGirl]

Racism happens regardless of colour. It is truly sad.

[Anonymous]

It's not a "double standard." It's racism straight up. Somehow the new Woketard Idiocracy has gotten it into their pea brains that some people can't be racist at all based on. . . wait for it. . . their race!

Hold up tards. . . determining who can and cannot be racist on the basis of race is pretty much an unironic demonstration of racism. And generally being an incompetent fuck.

But that's where we are today!

[flirtatiousgirl]

Eastern Europe is where racism is at its highest. you're deaf when it comes to the Middle East, but when youcomes to yourown interests, you're a hell of a toon. I don't like those Asian people with small eyes. i even hate turkish people. yes i am not black yes i am racistAsians are important to you because your boyfriend is Asian and he fucks you and relaxes your dirty cunt

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Ahaha why are you triggered so hard?

Anyway, thank you for those metaphors, relaxing, yeah he definitely does that better than your boyfriend I see, you are not getting enough loving, otherwise you’d not be so aggressive. 😍

[flirtatiousgirl]

at least i don't show that i'm so racist on the inside just for a fucker. I am honest