If the genders were reversed, when it comes to Jonny's &Amber's case, would the victim still get so much support-Unpopular opinion?

[hi_it_is_me123]

I want to apologize for the other question. Amber should be in prison since she is a terrible person. I am asking this question since I could not express myself well with the other question since it was too rush. So sorry for this.
Here my unpopular opinion:
I am just used to see people to victim blame abused women for dating bad men or when women get accused of dating bad boys on purpose when having bad experience with men. So when jonny was a woman, he would probably be accused of dating a bad woman on purpose since he as a celebrity had to know what kind of person she is before marriage since everyone knows everyone in hollywood. Even when he did not know, that she is bad, he would get accused of being ok with abuse for not leaving her after the first red flag. I am on GaG for years. I have seen this on the internet and in real life so often to the point i started victim blaming too which was wrong. For example all weinstein's victims got victim blamed a lot in my experience. Serial killers like Ted Bundy have even fans/lovers and not even they got such much hate. There is a german youtuber (Kuchen Tv) who indirectly admitted that he hit his gf- before this his girlfriend got so much victim blamed and got accused of being a liar. He is still a YouTuber and his fans keep supporting him.
I am very happy that jonny depp get so much love.
But what I want to say is that I am just confused now. I thought that he may get victim blamed too since society is like this but when it does not happen, I ask myself why. So it may be due his gender since I dont know any case like this but genders reversed and victim get so much support
I can understand that many men feel recognized. It is important that abuse towards men gets recognized. Maybe we are used to see women get abused and this why there are people who victim blame women. So when abuse towards men get recognized and we may get used to see men abused too.

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Please read my whole post, otherwise I may delete your post since I dont want to repeat myself.

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I am much more curious about the public reaction. Hollywood treats everyone like shit if you dont support their political agenda. Look what happened to actors who vote for trump or who did not agree with topic non binary. So i am not suprised that hollywood fired jonny depp

[IMuser]

I am assuming that victim blaming means telling the victim that they are responsible for whatever happened to them and there was no fault of the aggressor

1. Regarding your point of Johnny knowing what kind of person the girl was (Amber): it is impossible for one to know about the dark desires and behaviours of any individual. You can be the nicest yet have evil thoughts within you which can get manifested under the right conditions. Why are women blamed for "choosing the wrong men"? It's probably because of how their attraction system works: they want a bad boy who is good and bad to them at certain times YET no mother will raise their child to be such a man who is in control (of both good and dark side). Naturally this does not apply to every woman but yes, this exists. When these boys who have been raised by their mother to be nice yet when they try to date, they get rejected by women of their age because of their niceness... Facing this contradiction of how they were raised as a man and what kind of man society expects them to be, they start to Harbor a hate against women: that they are contradictory bitches... This I think is the root cause of victim blaming women more than men
2. If you are with an abuser and have tolerated it for long, it means you were fine with it: nope. There is a thing called gaslighting. In the simplest terms, it means manipulating your sense of correctness and reality: the attempt to misguide them to belive that the abuse they are suffering from is actually their love. It is extremely difficult to get out of this situation
3. Why is man as a victim getting much support? I think it's because of the fact that we were raised to "respect women", that is, to be extra nice to them as they are pure and innocent beings. The result of this upbringing is that even if a woman lies about her being the victim, she will get unanimous suport from other people (men and women) as they believe that women are innocent beings who can't lie (fuck society). During the me too movement, a lot of rape cases were exposed: some of them true and some of them false. There was hardly an evidence for some cases and some cases were a blatant lie, this made men trust women less. A lot of men suffered just because a woman, without any reasoning, destroyed their career. So when the tables have turned, they are remembered of their own experiences and thus, support the man

Hope this makes sense

[hi_it_is_me123]

Yes this makes sense. Interesting post.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I can't say much about the first paragraph but the other two last paragraph makes sense. This is what I mean. The first paragraph kinda interesting. I struggle to understand why some women like bad men -it is probably because of the dominance/confidence of these bad men.

[IMuser]

I really have no idea 😅. It's a hypocrisy. It raisesa question that can you be nice yet be dominant?
There is a character from an anime called Overlord (name of character is Sebas) is what I would personally consider the epitome of being a man: nice + dominant when needed. I still need to do research 😂😂

[hi_it_is_me123]

Dominant men ain't automatically bad lol I personally think that you can be dominant and nice. Bad boys use their dominance in a bad way to harm people😅

[IMuser]

Yeah. It's like this: a dominant individual is dominant because they have the power to do so. If not guided, the power will be used for "bad purposes". Therefore, depending on the guidance, the personality of the dominant individual is formed: either a bad boy or confident boy

[Kaneki05]

Ah now that's the proper way to ask thy question. And while no one can predict the future but we already saw this happen so answer is right there. Go back to when amber heard was claiming he was abuser which this whole trail even came from in the first place.
Was Dep cut of pirates of Caribbean? yup was Amber allowed in Aquaman? yup.
Therefore the answer was if genders were reversed of course. Because even with just a simple call of her been abused by dep cut him out of basically his own franchise. Meanwhile the support for Amber was around as me-too and she got to still act.

So your idea she would get less support is inaccurate. However this idea of women get less supported is another issue and I would rather argue neither sex's do than trying to pick one side who get's supported less.
And there will always be those that are sexist who decide the woman is in the wrong when she's the victim same for those who say the man is in the wrong when he never was.
While one from media would gather women are more on the side of been blamed when victims the difference is guys are effected by this too just it's less in the media and also a lot of guys same true with girls won't talk out because of such factor. Guys sorta have it worse here as the woman can claim you were the instigator and get you arrested meanwhile if woman is blamed while the victim often they don't get arrested just more vocal responses. While a girl might get called a slut etc, a guy might legit get put in prison for a rape he didn't commit when in fact she forced him etc.
But again I don't really want to go over who has it worse because I think that's a dumb and unhealthy way to think of it.

[hi_it_is_me123]

The problem is also that "not guilty until proven guilty" does not exist in america so far i know. This is why you can't get just fired and it may be even illegal in european countries

[hi_it_is_me123]

You are right. It is irrelevant who has it worse. I just hope that men and women get both their justice and support. It is also important that abuse towards men get taken more serious.

[anon1903]

I think she's getting all the hate because you guys are crazy about JD. I do agree she's horrible, her abusive incidents were no joke, it was extremely appalling to read them. But I'd just like to add, people aren't supporting JD because he was abused, they're supporting him because he's more popular and well liked than her. He's a larger fanbase than her. That's all. If he were a regular man, would people still favor him, would he still have trillions in support of him? I don't think so.

[Redhead999]

If it was gender reversed and Johnny did what Amber did he'd be jailed.

[Still-alive]

Yup thered be a criminal trial as well as a lawsuit asap. No doubt

[Redhead999]

@Still-alive he'd be made bankrupt then by copycat lawsuits from women he's never even met