After having made abortion illegal in Oklahoma, what is the next state in which we should make it illegal?

[Anonymous]

I am very happy that abortion has been made illegal in Oklahoma, women's irresponsibility should not be pandered or tolerated, I hope abortion is made illegal throughout the country.

California

Florida

New York

Tejas

[Anonymous]

So are you supporting better sex education? Better access to preventative items like condoms and birth control? Are you helping support the medical costs that grow while carrying a fetus, up to and after birth? Are you supporting the ban of guns and better mental health care? Are you going to help pay for the clothes and school supplies of those children? Are you going to help make education free to all, at all levels? Are you helping eradicate the death penalty and helping convicts in jail reform?


Or are you just glad that women are back to having unequal rights?


You aren’t pro-life, you’re anti-women

[CandiceK]

I'm not into arguing on this site, but if your interested in answering a few of my questions, I'd enjoy the interactions. Let me know.

[Opinion Owner]

I sent you a request

[CandiceK]

I prefer to talk on the forums, but that's OK.

[Opinion Owner]

Ask away

[CandiceK]

So are you supporting better sex education? Better access to preventative items like condoms and birth control? Are you helping support the medical costs that grow while carrying a fetus, up to and after birth? Are you supporting the ban of guns and better mental health care? Are you going to help pay for the clothes and school supplies of those children? Are you going to help make education free to all, at all levels? Are you helping eradicate the death penalty and helping convicts in jail reform?

Or are you just glad that women are back to having unequal rights?

What is “better sex education?” It’s not rocket science. I’m talking about the how not to get pregnant part.

What does better access to condoms, mean? Every time I hear that, it means,,, better access = free condoms. Maybe they could each pay half for the 50 cent condom.

What does the support of gun bans have to do with getting an abortion?

I do support mental healthcare for those who can’t figure out the birds and the bees.

I guess what you mean by free education for all levels, that has to be code for free college. And I don’t see what that has to do with abortion.

The death penalty?

Reform for criminals?

This sounds like a political “pork barrel.”

[Opinion Owner]

Sex Education: despite the attempts at keeping religion from schools, many sexual education classes still preach ideas of abstinence or show only the bare minimums of sex. Topics like how to keep yourself clean and safe from stds, what options are available if you want to refrain from getting pregnant (like condoms or birth control), or safe ways to have sex and enjoy a relationship without falling for pressure are often glossed over. Some schools just refuse to give sex education any show at all. I think we are well-versed in the scientific aspect of sex, but we are not giving kids access to the information, and we are attacking them if they do go for that information. The classes also tend to focus on a heteronormative view on sex- what about children who want to explore their sexuality, yet lack the understandings of the risks that certain interactions might carry? The American culture clashes, with religious fanatics deeming sex as an evil and condemnable act, while pop media pushes it in songs and movies. Children are learning from the media that sex is something that makes them mature and popular with others, but they aren’t being taught safe practices.

It’s not that condoms are expensive, although sometimes they are. It’s that children/teens are embarrassed to go searching for them, believing they will be heckled or questioned for their choices. Sometimes condoms are kept hidden behind counters, where you are forced to ask the cashier for them. While as adults, we get over the embarrassment, and can chose to distance ourselves from confrontation, most children/teens don’t have that choice. Especially in more religious, small towns, where everyone knows everyone. Social customs also make buying preventive aids difficult. Why would a girl go to her mother about birth control if she knows that her mother will just assume her to be a slut? Why would a boy buy condoms when everyone around him is telling him how uncomfortable and tight they are?

[Opinion Owner]

Guns/Healthcare/Education/Death Penalty/Reform: these are common beliefs held by the same people who claim to be pro-life. They push for the fetus to live and be born, but once it’s in the world, they don’t give a damn about it. The same people who want feti to live also support killing criminals, limiting people’s access to medicine and care, raising the prices to where the college corporations survive, but younger people aren’t able to afford degrees and therefore can’t advance in society, etc. It’s the rhetoric of, “why is your right to own a gun more important than the right of this child to grow up in a safe classroom environment?”

You can call it a political pork barrel if you wish, but if someone is going to promote a certain belief, they should be consistent with that belief. Don’t claim to support one life whilst damning another.

[CandiceK]

Not providing free college is not damning someone's life. I worked my way through college by working at minimum wage jobs, and taking out student loans. I also paid back my student loans, because I thought that's how contracts work. I guess I was wrong. I guess reneging on a contract is acceptable now.

Oh, and tell those chickenshit kids that are afraid to buy condoms, to just walk into any community college, university, planned parent hood, community health clinic or health department, and they have large bowls of free condoms laying out. No questions asked, you just take them and go.
I bet those shy kids could manage to get beer and pot.

I was pro life for a long time. Then one day it hit me. Can you imagine what it would be like if one day you found out that the ONLY reason you're alive, is because the state would let your mom destroy you?
Now I'm pro choice.

Pretty girl, WASN'T she. When Anthony was about to release, I asked him what his plans were. He said his plan was to go back to prison, because that's where him and most the rest belong.

But the counselors said he was reformed. After all, the department of corrections, corrects you, right?


Kayla isn't nearly as pretty, because she no longer has a head.


He got 30 years. So he'll get out at around the age of 55. Just in time to kill again.

[CandiceK]

Mistake: the state wouldn't allow...

[Opinion Owner]

I’m so glad to see that everything I just said went straight over your head. While I appreciate you pretending to actually be interested in a mature conversation, you need to work on your debate skills. :)

[CandiceK]

Hey, I'm not the one throwing in prisoner reform in with a pro-life debate. LOL
The author is talking about not wanting innocent lives to die. So somehow in your poor debating skills, you think you're clever to compare an innocent baby, to a low life piece of shit that would cut his girlfriend's head off. I'm surprised you didn't throw in eating dead cows at McDonald's.

[Opinion Owner]

Since you seemed to not have understood my writing above, let me simplify:

Pro-life people = hypocrites

I was highlighting if the author was going to hold consistency in his stance, and if he was going to fix the consequences of his choice.

And you just helped prove my point! That prisoner’s life is worth less than that parasitic infestation! Wow, good job helping keep people alive and healthy! Look at you, all smart like 😋

Go white-knight on someone else’s post

[CandiceK]

Actually, I'll do it on this question, but with my own thread.

Pro-life people = hypocrites

Especially when they kill so many people by not giving them free college. OK, I'm done with you. lol

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t appreciate you trying to strawman my argument. I have never said that nor giving someone free education kills them, you are making shit up now.

As I have now explained three times, people who support pro-life, do not support the bettering or continuation of lives after birth. It is hypocritical to want to demand life, but then not take any actions to improve or support people who need it.

People with less education are more likely to delve into drugs and crime. People who can’t afford a higher education, since they can’t get a degree, are forced to work lower paying jobs and are treated as lesser by the majority of society. This pushes people into desperate acts to keep themselves and their families comfortable. It creates a divide between people, and stops us from becoming more unified as a community.

Same with prisoner reform. There are some people who will not be changed, I never said otherwise, but since you seem to struggle with actually reading my words and not making your own conclusions in your mind, I’m just gonna leave this as is.

Don’t try to make someone appear stupid when you can’t even remain on topic. It’s not hard ✌️

[CandiceK]

You're tying to convince this guy that him being pro-life, makes him a hypocrite. You could have maybe done it if you stuck to related topics like the death penalty, and cut the flowery crap.

"This pushes people into desperate acts to keep themselves and their families comfortable. It creates a divide between people, and stops us from becoming more unified as a community."

What the fuck? lol Am I off topic, or did you really say that?

Remember when you wanted to talk to me in PM, and I said no? I have a good instinct about these things, and I made the right choice. :)

[Opinion Owner]

And again, strawmanning my argument lol…

I did so out of a courtesy, but I understand that you don’t believe in that, so no worries :)

When you want to have an honest conversation, hmu, but I’m not interested in talking to someone who can’t understand the basics of a premise.

[CandiceK]

The "straw-man" maneuver is usually what people pull out when they're backed into a corner. I've seen it a million times on this site. But if you really wanted to hit hard, you would have pulled out the heavy guns and just called me a...
*racist
*homophobe
*zenophobe
*arachnophobe

Anyway, it's been fun, and if you want to continue, come to my post on this question. The door is always open.

[Opinion Owner]

Please reread the above 👆:)

[CandiceK]

[Opinion Owner]

Please reread the above 👆:) (x2)

[CandiceK]

[Opinion Owner]

Please reread the above 👆🙂 (x3)

[CandiceK]

I kindly and graciously invited you to talk to me on my post.

[Opinion Owner]

Please reread the above 👆🙂 (x4)

[CandiceK]

I personally don't condone abortion at all. I appreciate you trying to change the world, but you're beating a dead horse. Both sides are polarized, and neither will budge.
This topic is very much like talking about global warming/cooling/climate change.
It's a complete waste of time. Climate czar John Kerry, Leonardo DiCaprio and Al Gore, will lecture you on what a horrible person you are, and then they will fly home on the electric, green-powered private jets.

[CandiceK]

Thanks for the MHO

[Dargil]

Perhaps Arkansas (maybe it already is) or Mississippi. But there will always be abortion mills in the USA. New York, California, Massachusetts, Washington, Oregon and Illinois. Probably others. Some will start offering abortion tours including airfare, hotels and infanticide services.

[ODC2112]

In the Stato of New York was also legal in 60s. So it is a completly wrong choice. Texas, or Ohio, will strict abortion rules.

[Anonymous]

Texas probably. Under Jewish law unborn children don't live long enough to be considered people so new York and California are off the table. So your taking about bible belt states and states with a lot of Catholics like nevada, texas, new Mexico...

[Cubus]

Arkansas, Alabama or Mississippi. Something in that region.

[BarryLiverstone]

Why isn’t it the males irresponsibility based on your perspective? It takes two to tango

[Anonymous]

Can you characterise how women are being irresponsible in terms of your argument?

[UCrayCray]

Because they get themselves pregnant.
That’s right. They do it all by themselves.
/s 🙄

[Opinion Owner]

@UCrayCray :-)

[FunkyMonkee]

The state of insanity.

[libsaretards]

ALL states

[lofii]

California.

[Anonymous]

Ummm…. no.