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I don’t agree. Men and women are not equal and the attempt to make them equal hasn’t just made them MORE unequal but it’s forced them to play their weaknesses rather then their strengths.
Men are better with purpose and being taught self control and respect. I think men are given purpose today or taught respect or self control BECAUSE women and men arnt what they are meant to be. If we valued fathers and marriage more there would be less single mothers and fatherless kids. Less women with daddy issues and men that weren’t taught to be men.
It was unfair for women to be… property. But with good came much bad. Now women are able to work and so the single family wage went away and women spend less time in the homes but men still spent 60-80 hours a week out of the home… now women can vote but for the same right men have to sign away their life to the draft but women do not. Women can drive… yay traffic!
I don’t wish bad things in women (unless I feel they deserve it suffer Amber Heard) but someone has to be a clear leader. Men are stronger and shoulder the (arguably) greater burden and responsibility. Feminism lead women to denounce their greatest gift… child birth. People will always look for better in everything. It’s disappointing it’s lead to this point where women ARE the more valuable sex and men are undervalued.
In a world where men rule… I’m happy and married with a family that’s happy. But in feminisms world… society sucks.
The core of feminism has always been and always will be misandry.
Early feminist were as useless and unnecessary as today’s Feminist.
They were fighting for things that women already had or things that society was already working towards.
votes for women were established long before feminism, lack of voting rights was more an economic thing than a sex based thing.
Women could work long before feminism.
Women could on land long before feminism.
but just like the feminism of today, they want things that benefit them but not the stuff that doesn’t.
No feminist group has ever fought to get more women in deadly jobs.(Coal mines, oil rigs, etc)
They simply want the power jobs without all the hard work and struggle that the men who have those jobs have gone through.
In regards to the workplace “harassment”, women claim harassment for basic male interest. Women dress for sexual attention, and wear makeup to “look pretty”, and then complain that men are sexually interested.
The excuse is that “i d0 iT f0R mE” doesn’t fly.
Pushing your tits up and out, wear low cut tops, wear skin tight clothes, wear short skirts, etc... that is NOT necessary, it is designed to get sexual attention.
Feminism has not fought for anything valid, in the history of feminism. They use shit 3rd world countries as a scapegoat to show “female oppression” but never have they gone to those countries to fight against it. They whine about men sitting comfortably on a bus, bullshit fabrications like rape culture and wage gap, and push cancel culture at anyone who stands up to them.
I support original feminism and what it fought for, and I appreciate the rights I have today because of it. But today's feminism is very different. It's just an embarrassment to the majority of women and gives men lots of reasons to hate us.
I think it is just basic decency to support that all living people have these rights regardless of gender
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Has the country gotten better since women started voting? Does the average woman voter have any concept of the issues or does she only “feel” things? Why did Al gore kissing his wife cause many women to decide to vote for him?
Men originally did not give women this right to vote because they understood with great power comes much responsibility. As we can see in todays feminized culture, responsibility means nothing. People rant and rave about feelings and rights but never about being a good citizen or the responsibility for maintaining our government.
So the government is busy convincing women to give up gun and speech rights so no one will get his feelings hurt. We have an open border wherein we are convinced we must help. I can imagine being on a sinking ship and women would never stop news passengers from overloading the ship as long as it was sold as a sad story. Meanwhile, the ship continues to take on water. That’s the US today. Everything is a mess. Our best days are behind us and feminism played no small part.
I wholeheartedly agree with all the original demands.
However today it is a fact that all these demands have been met:
Voting
Owning property
Custody of children
Working
Freedom of speech
No separation in public transportation...
The list goes on.
The issue I have is that they kept asking and asking for more and more rights but never once asked for the responsibility that goes with having those rights.
So today we have the modern day feminists who have all the rights they're gonna get but still feel entitled to more because they were never humbled by having to earn anything.
Ideally there should have never been discrimination to begin with, but even back during the first wave of feminists what should have happened is giving thse women the rights along with the responsibilities that would have carried over better into the future generations
It’s easy to vote Left when they promise war that you don’t have to get drafted into. I support women’s right to be miserable depressed wage slaves/tax cattle just like men but don’t understand why they would want to be when the most important job with who should be the most important people in the world is already there at home, and isn’t trying to get you to make sales calls or go to meetings or find a parking spot after a long commute. I have much more fun with my kids and the day goes by so much quicker that if it were economically viable I would love to raise the kids, and Mother Nature didn’t even set me up for that through evolutionary biology advantages.
Yeah for the most part I think commission is important which is why I disagree with her in sports because women's sports bring in loss rev then men's sports. it's pronounced the same thing as a car salesman the one that tells most cars gets paid more.
as far as voting I don't think anyone should be voting unless or one just sign up for the draft so women should have to sign up for the draft if they're going to vote because that was the original argument against women voting because the ability to vote also came with the ability to get drafted into the military
Feminism was created by Communists as one facet of a larger plan to undermine Western Civilisation by destroying the family and causing women and men to see the opposite gender as an enemy.
If you look at the history of Feminism, you will struggle to find any of the leading lights who were not (a) Communists, (b) Jewish and (c) often also lesbian. The late Andrea Dworkin would be a prime example.
Giving women the vote was one of the first steps toward the destruction of Western Civilisation.
In the US context, without women the Democratic Party would not hold a seat.
I think there are negative consequences to every change in society, newly allowed voting women being conned into voting in income tax while men were off fighting ww1, the doubling of the workforce resulting in lower wages. However I can't morally justify not allowing women to work or vote, and won't abide by the mistreatment of my female coworkers from scumbags.
So when in comes to the suffragettes and the like, Im happy the movement took place. I love the women in my life, and no daughter of mine will be her husband's property or have her oppurtunities crushed by a politician.
Now modern feminism... thats a hard no from me.
Equal rights should come with equal responsibilities. Until the day that women do not constitute roughly half the combat and workplace deaths and injuries, we will not have equality. No I realize that men and women are biologically different but when it comes to the vote, everyone should be the same.
Original feminism was the shit ngl.
If it wasn't for that, I don't think I would be the man I am today, since I was raised by my mom, and she wouldn't have achieved what she has without it. So I am grateful for og feminism.
However, todays brand of feminism not so much, it's more divisive, and hateful. I don't see it making relationships between men and women stronger.
I'm 100% supportive. Women are people. As citizens, they are entitled to equal rights under the law.
I'm particularly happy about sexual liberation and access to birth control.
The only feminists I don't like are bitter, angry misandrists, or women who don't like femininity.
Equality of the sexes was a noble goal, but it got corrupted as each generation moved the goalposts more and more. What started as "equal opportunities" is morphing now into "equal outcomes", and what started as "ending discrimination" has become "cancel anyone who disagrees with me.
Eh... you mean "suffrage" not "feminism," kiddo.
That is what women's suffrage was about, right to vote, own property, manage business etc etc.
Feminism is something different altogether. It's more in line with supplanting the patriarchy and prosecuting alleged wrongs by men.
Read the Seneca Falls Declaration from the 1850s. One of the goals was to hold men to the same standards of behavior as women. If belching, farting, cussing, drinking and screwing around weren’t acceptable for women, they said they shouldn’t be acceptable for men.
I think a lot of women now want to act every bit as piggish as they perceive men to be. In some areas, like swearing, young women seem to have men beat.
its good modern feminism is bs but the original thing is importand (even though in my opinoin a women should raise the kids at the beginning and stay home for work because they are much more gentle and mothermilk if she wants to but this way its at least an option)
I agree with the original feminist movement. The feminist women of today are just bitching about everything! They call some of them Karen's. Who needs them and the stress they are causing?
All feminism is the same. Its just about breaking up families and destroying any country that tolerates it at any level. Most sane women dont want the vote or the ability to work. Its mostly only very young girls who dont know better and a bunch of weirdos in cities and men who simp on onlyfans and a handful of old lonely career women. Not the best group of people by far.
That's really what "Women's Rights" is all about - equality under the law. Feminism is bad misnomer, in my opinion. There's nothing "feminine" about the right to vote, equal work opportunities, stopping workplace sexism and discrimination. Those are basic human rights in a civil society, and not a definition of "feminism".
These are human rights. However it's problematic that women's taste in men is still stuck in the pre-1950s era. Women still rate men on education and career achievement, but now men have to compete not only with each other, but with women too.
I agree with women getting equal rights. What I don't agree with is the male bashing you constantly see. Like the Man child doritos commercial. I don't agree with shaming young boys in school and privileging young girls and giving them better grades because they are girls and better behaved. Boyd have their own way of learning and we need to respect them. Yes give women right but also still respect boys.
The one that started it all and look what happened to it now. Even the original feminism is still a one-sided movement because they just cannot support equality but it has to be feminism despite what issues men also face.
https://youtu. be/In8jWBlc8xo
in general the slippery slope is real and you can't have women voting without things like modern feminism being inevitable. so no, the only compromise i could maybe make is having the female voting age much higher than the male voting age but even that might be erroded over time
so the fundamentals of making men and women equal was always wrong, men and women are different
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