Would you be in favor of dumping government education, if private schools didn't cost more?

[StevieNix]

Government

Government

In my state it costs $18, 000 per year, to educate a third grade student. You and I both know that the private sector could match or beat that price, and actually teach kids something other than the LGBTQRS crap.

I'm not talking about parents paying out-of-pocket, nothing would change in that regard. You would just be sending your kid to a quality school, instead of the current government clown show.

I love the dumbing-down of America

Enough is enough

[Stoner710]

Yea it’s time to abolish the American education system. One can’t even send there kid to school with out them trying to chop the twig and berries off and call him a girl or send there daughters to school without them chopping off her breast and calling her a boy. Time to end American education

[StevieNix]

Public education is ran by pedophiles.

[Stoner710]

Not every where but the majority yes on the federal level yes. People in my county doesn’t teach the state preferred curriculum because they don’t want to teach students about gender theory or crt but we’re a small farming community in a blue state mainly because of seattle

[StevieNix]

Washington has the dumbest governor on the planet. Look how well he did in the presidential primaries. I think he was behind Kamala.

[Stoner710]

Yea he was one of the first to drop out he’s whole running strategy wise to talk about climate change. King country loves him everyone else can’t stand him. Remember CHAZ? Capitol Hill autonomous zone supposedly a 6 city block succeeded form the United States for 2 months while people died and they would let ambulances through to help people who got shot

[exitseven]

I would be sending my kids to private school now if they were still little

[StevieNix]

I hope you don't mind my meme in your honor. Today the retarded mods deleted my fourth question this week. This question was deleted by the moronic mods, and then the next day admin reinstated it and congratulated me on on it. I don't understand the purpose of retarded mods.

[exitseven]

too funny.

[Sixgunsound]

Does your area have charter schools? Betsy Devos talks about them a great deal in her book ‘Hostages no more’ about her experience as 45s education secretary. Chartres kind of split the difference, and that they are simultaneously publicly funded and autonomous and union free. They allow good teachers to be great teachers and they allow administrations to get rid of bad teachers. Ultimately I am in favor of what is called school choice, that being the money allotted out of school tax revenues to educate a child goes where the parents send the kid, not to the assigned school where their neighborhood location dictates. I can personally guarantee you a private school that didn’t have all the union driven hangups could produce a better educated more well-rounded respectful and possessed of a better work ethic student for half that. The kids would get a better education, which would cost the parents less taxes. It’s a win for everybody but the grifters in the education industrial complex.

[Sixgunsound]

Which is exactly why you know it will never happen.

[Sixgunsound]

The people who owned this country need a public education system to socialize the cost of training their worker drones and soldiers, so they need that education industrial complex in place as it stands using an 1840s Prussian style system to guarantee compliance and produce the type of graduate who is useful to owners not which is useful to graduates.

[StevieNix]

I got in a fight yesterday with a tard on this site that worships the government schools. I knew when I posted this question that she wouldn't dare challenge all of you, and she didn't. She's a libtard.

Having said that... I feel bad because I made a meme for one of my faves.."seven"

Well... now "six" gets a meme.

[RavVid]

What I would like is that every child got a bursary for $x and the parents chose the school their child went to and consequently got the $x. $x+y if the child is handicapped in some way.

Why should public schools be given a monopoly? Teachers unions exploit it to teach pronouns.

I don't know if it happened in the US but one of our TV channels took recent high school grads and pitted them against their parents and grandparents in basic maths and literacy. The recent grads came last.

Too much time on pronouns and not enough on basics.

Love the AOC pic. Funny

[StevieNix]

I made the meme for my favorite member of the site. But don't tell anyone, or I will be banned for breaking the law.

[Sixgunsound]

I had a post taken down today. I’m back to doing my job!!!

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

The mods are fucking retarded.

[RavVid]

Your secret is safe with me :)

[Sixgunsound]

@RavVid what you are describing is called school choice in the United States. The teachers union mafia has done such a good job keeping that out of the public discussion that most people don’t even know it is a thing.

[RavVid]

@Sixgunsound Interesting Sixgun. In Aust there is subsidisation of private schools which are predominantly run by Catholic Church. Lots of non catholic parents choose catholic schools because they are way better than public. Teacher unions are always gunning for their funding to eliminate competition of course.

Shall look school choice up.

[Sixgunsound]

Trump’s secretary of education made a career out of defunding unions to empower parents to give their students the best education they could. She was the only education secretary in US history to receive credible death threats on a regular basis and instead of unarmed security be escorted by federal Marshals to every school building or speaking stop she visited. That’s how much the teacher mafia hated her because of how dangerous she was to them.

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

I totally get the mafia and their reasons, but I just don't get parents who support them. One idiot on this thread said that public education just needs to be improved. lol
When will that happen, and why hasn't it happened?

My cousin and I took an English class together in high school.
Our teacher was very liberal, and we were raised to be conservatives.
The teacher's passion was debating, so we gave him a run for his money. We both got A's for challenging him. But we never learned a thing in that class. I don't know how he was a teacher.

He told the class that capital punishment doesn't work. I told him it's not supposed to "work" but it's very effective in stopping repeat offenders. lol

It was an easy "A." He loved to be challenged, but most were too afraid to do so. Other than math, I never learned anything in high school.

[RavVid]

That was about my experience of English as well. It was the worst taught subject. At the least, you should come out being able to write clear concise instructions/information in a business setting. In my case they diverted to creative writing early on when none of us were going to be novelists.

Mostly it was a waste of time.

Unfortunately now they cut down the time on the three R's to indoctrinate liberal views.

[Sixgunsound]

“Best solution for repeat offenders”🤣🤣🤣 stoppppp it I’m driving🤣🤣🤣

[Sixgunsound]

Well should be anyways. At the moment I’m wasting time on phone l.

[StevieNix]

Our history class was worse. He just paced back and forth and muttered to himself. We all just talked and played games. No one in the private sector would hire that moron. But he fit in nicely with public education.

I'm not joking. We never once talked about history, read a book or had an assignment.

[RavVid]

Hopeless. Second worse for me was the french teacher but at least he was entertaining. He had a hearing aide. So if we stuck our hand up and mouthed a question he would twiddle the volume for ages.

I can't I would recommend many of the teachers for employment and I was at a private school.

[StevieNix]

Lucky you.

[RavVid]

Not really - it was an all boys school :(

[Mia-Wallace]

I dunno. Most kids in my family are homeschooled and the rest go to private schools.

I was homeschooled myself. I don't know much about public schools other than the fact they are affordable for the less fortunate groups who, at this point and with automation, are absolutely in need of good education.

[StevieNix]

Public schools are more expensive than private schools.

[Avicenna]

I used to be a public school teacher, and even I like the idea. Some public schools are great (for example, ones having an IB program), but the failing ones absolutely should be gradually replaced with vouchers.

Two issues that would need to be resolved is the expense to private schools of taking students they might not otherwise accept and liability when they're sued. Public school districts are sometimes sued frivolously, but the locality pays or has their own attorneys on the payroll to defend the lawsuits.

[Sixgunsound]

I don’t suppose getting every parent who enrolls their student in a private school to sign a memorandum of understanding that if their kid acts like a little shit they’re going to get dropped from the program would stand up in court, would it? Not in as many words but you know what I mean.

[Avicenna]

@Sixgunsound: I doubt it that’s simple.

[StevieNix]

Avi,
If your teaching ability is anything like your brilliant comments on this site, I bet you were the best of the best. But the worthless government needs to step aside.

In my state, you could only buy hard booze from a government store. Everyone accepted this, because only government people are smartly. (much like Joey Biden) It came to a referendum vote. The gov got slaughtered. This isn't about booze, it's about getting rid of the nanny state.

[Chazmatazz269]

The privatization of the penal system certainly didn’t improve things. Why would the privatization of education? You think profits won’t be prioritized over our kids’ education? Ell oh ell! People die every day of preventable and treatable illnesses and injuries because we literally prioritize profits over life and health. The future of education isn’t even on the list as priorities go. Everyone wants to get rich and nobody cares who or what they have to destroy to make it happen, including children.

[Sixgunsound]

Are you Including teacher union bosses, one of which famously said they would start caring about students when students started paying union dues?

[Chazmatazz269]

It’s possible you just replied to the wrong comment. Obviously i wrote nothing about union bosses, so you’re comment is way off base. If you want to play out in left field, have a blast, but that’s not my style.

[StevieNix]

Would you be in fear of a choice?

[Chazmatazz269]

No. I don’t carry fear. Also, i ain’t got no kids. If’n i did, i’d probably home skool.

[StevieNix]

Then let their be a choice. The Gubment would lose.

[Chazmatazz269]

The gubment is the house. The house never loses.

[Sixgunsound]

My comment was referring to the people who let children lose. Children in the public school system lose when adults priority their safe easy cushy careers, benefits, and retirement packages over students. The union bosses are the ones who make all that happen, and even publicly admitted that students are not even a consideration when deciding how better to serve the adults involved. The union bosses prioritize returning on the investment (profits to themselves and teachers) of union dues exclusive of any meaningful benefit to students. Sorry I didn’t explain long form the first time.

[love_conquers_lust]

The federal government needs to increase fund schools and shut the fuck up about petty superficial shit. Progressive tax the crap out of Conservatives AND Liberals either at the Federal or State level, I don’t care. There is a VERY serious problem with responsible use of smart phones and social media. These kids have short attention spans and their math skills are awful. While these two parties are busy fighting about stupid shit and hoarding money, kids of ALL races and genders are falling behind.

[StevieNix]

Government education sucks.

[love_conquers_lust]

NOW it does. After WW2, they pushed education like nobodies business with the GI Bill. Conservatives/Liberals and Democrats/Republicans alike have lost their way and been so focused on profiting from globalization, they all neglected our own youth at home. The US amount of published papers per capita sucks compared to Scandinavian countries. That’s one thing they got right. They may be more progressive and socialist, but one thing they don’t fuck around on is educating their youth. Their is public educational shit for kids everywhere over there from what I’ve read. They’re like the matriarchal version of Germany.

[love_conquers_lust]

Oh my god, “There”, not Their”. Fuck.

[joeldalton]

It's government indoctrination at this point. Not education. I am for school choice. Take the equivalent amount of tax dollars spent per pupil and give that to each parent to decide where to educate their children.

[StevieNix]

That's all I'm asking for. When people hear about "PRIVATE SCHOOLS" they automatically think of Harvard and Yale. No. It's not like that. I got into a big argument with a woman on this site about this. She is convinced that the government is the ONLY entity to be smart enough to teach. What?

One time I went to the DMV to get my driver's license renewed. I took a number and left to go grocery shopping. After that, I treated myself to lunch at Dairy Queen. When I got back to the DMV, I was as thrilled that there were ONLY about 30 people ahead of me in line. That's the gubment.

[joeldalton]

@stevienix Obama's children never went to public school. 'nuff said.

[StevieNix]

True, but Obama is "special."

[Sixgunsound]

It’s amazing how rich privileged Democrat politicians don’t seem to have the same stigmas applied to them as they apply to other people isn’t it? Party of the little guy huh…

[LazerBean]

That's why we were both homeschooled, and that's why we are going to be homeschooling our kids too.

[StevieNix]

If it were up to me, you would be getting $18,000 per child per year. If you're doing it for free, you're being robbed by the government.

[LazerBean]

That would be nice lol definitely not into being forced to pay for stuff that doesn't benefit me, and barely benefits anyone else for that matter.

[StevieNix]

Government education needs to go the way of the dinosaur and the phone booth.

[BCRanger10]

That's why my wife and I want to homeschool.

[StevieNix]

You damn well better be paid to do it. You deserve it.

[EnglishEuropean]

Homeschooling is a great way to make your kids socially phobic.

[BCRanger10]

@EnglishEuropean And that's based on... what, exactly?

[EnglishEuropean]

Based on nothing; I was talking out of the back of my neck. That's an English phrase meaning to make false or illogical statements.

[StevieNix]

Don't listen to the English liberal.

[SlangSlayer]

I like homeschooling better. But private school is also cool.

I don't like my taxes going to just anybody. I believe everybody for themselves

[StevieNix]

If you're qualified to homeschool, you should be paid $18,000 per kid per year.

[Sixgunsound]

Where do I sign up?

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

The problem is that the teacher's mafia won't pay you.

[Sixgunsound]

No but I bet a lot of concerned parents would. That is how many private or charter schools get started. Inevitably someone sells out and they go back to business as usual. The teacher mafia truly is the house.

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

You can definitely teach, but it's not fair that the parents have to pay twice.

[Sixgunsound]

That’s why school choice is sooooooo important. That way the money follows the student whether that is public private charter homeschool or somewhere in between. The public unions naturally oppose it because they wouldn’t have any students.

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

It would be so funny to see this play out. Small schools with the best teachers in the world, VS the zoos with metal detectors. We know where the money would go.

[Sixgunsound]

The unions rob teachers of their dues before payroll is checks are issued and then use the number of people enrolled as leverage to threaten politicians into making it illegal not to join the union. That doesn’t pass the sniff test. Either join the mafia or don’t be a teacher.

[Sixgunsound]

Which is BS. You are absolutely correct that the small schools with the good teachers who have to earn their positions every day as opposed to only until they get tenure would be beacons on a hill.

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

I think that the reason most teachers go along with the scam, is because they are terrible at their job, and need the security.

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

My cousin's wife is a Spanish teacher. She's very liberal and likes open borders. I don't want to cause trouble, but I know a little bit about teaching a foreign language. I taught English as a foreign language.
They would never hire a teacher who spoke "fluent" English. Fluent just means you can get by. They ONLY hired teachers who are native speakers. There's a huge difference. You've been immersed in English before you could walk.
Example:

I AM hungry.
You ARE hungry.
Six IS hungry.

You just can't explain how fucked up the English language is. You just need to know what sounds right.

My point is that we can all be replaced by illegals, but I don't think she gets that. If schools were private, I doubt she'd have been hired.

[Sixgunsound]

English is actually three languages stacked on top of each other wearing a trench coat that pickpockets other languages as it feels the need to. And then there are the dialects. Omfg the dialects and continental differences.

[StevieNix]

@Sixgunsound

The English language has way too many words.

A pod of whales
A gaggle of geese
A school of fish
A flock of birds
A murder of crows

We should just say a "bunch" of X

[Amur8711]

There should be an allowance for each child individually and then they can take that and go to any school they and their family feels best for them, and the families that do send their kids to Private Schools shouldn't have to pay local taxes for the public schools on top of their kids Private Education.

[StevieNix]

What part are you missing? No one would pay an extra dime.

[Amur8711]

But then would the education suffer?

[StevieNix]

Private schools would be free to the parents. It would honestly be cheaper than paying the government morons to teach them.

[Amur8711]

How would it be free tho?

[StevieNix]

The same way public schools are free to the parents.

[Amur8711]

Public school isn't free, your taxes pay for that.

[Amur8711]

Nothing is ever free especially when it comes to government.

[StevieNix]

I didn't say "free" I said "free for the parents."

[Amur8711]

Everyone pays for the public schools, there is noe exceptions for parents

[StevieNix]

Parents who don't pay taxes, don't pay.

[Amur8711]

If they aren't paying taxes then they are evading taxes

[StevieNix]

If they are living off government money, they are not paying or evading taxes. Why are you avoiding the topic of this question?

[007kingifrit]

yes we could do a voucher system and give all families an allotment of x dollars per family

[StevieNix]

Do you know how many freaks on this site have argued with me about this?


They think that only the government is smart enough to teach kids. The government is a bunch of morons.

The way I envision it, a smart guy like you might have space for 5 students. That's 90 grand per year for you. Your school would have an American flag in the room, and a Christmas tree during the season.
Your kids would know the names of every state, and their capitals. They would know the basics of math and science, and they kick ass if the choose to go to college.


Or you could send them to a government school.

[007kingifrit]

the department of education was founded in1979... i seem to call landing on the moon before that

[StevieNix]

No where in the constitution does it say we should have a department of education. Nor does it say that Kamala should head up the department of cyber bullying. If Kamala didn't go to work next Tuesday, would anyone even know?

[Sixgunsound]

The Department of Education was a match made in hell between teacher union bosses and the Carter campaign.

[Sixgunsound]

The constitution doesn’t fact state that powers not specifically enumerated are reserved to the states, and President Carter’s aggregation of the authority to create an illegal department led to the creation of a lot of other illegal departments by successor presidents. This is the fruit of the poisonous tree.

[Sixgunsound]

As for the picture, McConnell seems to have an awfully big smile on his face about what he’s standing close enough to say or do something about.

[KatherineJ]

Here’s the thing, I work in a private school. I support School Choice. But I cannot support the abolition of public schools. Nor can I support public funds going to for profit institutions that people like Betsy DeVos are heavily invested in.

[StevieNix]

Don't abolish public schools. Let it be a choice. If you want to send your kid to a school with pedaphiles, then do so.

[KatherineJ]

@stevienix my child does not go to a public school.

[StevieNix]

I get that.

[KatherineJ]

@stevienix all parents should have a choice.

[StevieNix]

Agreed

[DCooper]

Private schools don't cost more. Do the math:

12 years x (however many $ per year) < 75% of your property tax bills for life

[StevieNix]

I thought I just said that.

[Bratsondanielle]

I would never put my kid in a public school

[Juxtapose]

Yeah.. once they start grooming kids it's time to get them the hell out of there.

[StevieNix]

China is laughing at us.
China is teaching math and science, and we are teaching pronouns.

[EnglishEuropean]

Dumping public education is not the solution. Improving it is.

[StevieNix]

Yeah, because that's working out so well.

[EnglishEuropean]

It could, if there was the political will to do it.

[StevieNix]

And political will just boils down to bribes.

[Guy13]

Yes for sure

[StevieNix]

In my state, booze could only be sold in government stores. Someone challenged that, and it got put to a vote. lol
The state fought hard, but guess what? lol

[Guy13]

Private school purpose it to make money and serve that population. Letting in every Tom dick Harry is in opposition to theirCall. Percentage into Ivy League and every graduating student accepted in University.

[StevieNix]

Private does not mean ivy league. McDonald's is private. If the government made hamburgers, they'd be $40.00 each, and taste like shit.

[Guy13]

It does where I reside. I do not know what you mean by McDonald’s restaurant is private. In fact in my area if you get into the State namesake university it is last choice and sort of a failure..,

[SandyBeaches]

Enough is enough.