Have we become a society where narratives are valued more than facts?

[GutsNCascaBerserking]

Where feelings matter more than reason?

Where political sensibilities matter more than evidence?

I see this struggle all the time on topics like gender, sexuality, biology, psychology, racial struggles, history.. etc etc.

It seems to permeate society to such a degree that even the educated appear to know very little about fields they study. Even attempting to discuss topics like Psychology, with certain Psychology students... leads less often to intellectual conversation, but more to activism, and their desire to lead to your demise.

For example, Crazy Girls that are Too often incapable having conversations with you on topics without immediately collapsing into political narratives that have no basis in reality? Not to mention, narratives that often collapsed upon each other, and contradict to such a degree that they hold multiple perspectives that simply don't align.

For example, something as simple as defining a woman... Which has become a near impossibility in modern society. Yet, we have a society that also preaches about Feminism... How can two such ideologies coexist within the same people?

So we literally have feminists, fighting for women's rights, who are incapable of defining what a woman is... and therefore defeat the entire purpose of why they are fighting?

HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THIS? Will such ignorance ever find its end? Or will it continue forever until society eventually collapses from inevitable decay and incompetence?

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These Crazy Girls are Too much :P
You know who you are..

We need to start living in reality friends.

[justEric]

You have a very valid point of view. What I think about this subject is that human desire to be seen, to have a voice even if they don't know what they're talking about, created a surge of "specialists" who have biased and non factual opinions and grab random pieces of information to support their ideals, not caring if the information is correct or not. This is encouraged by a crescent dualism in communication, with the thought that you have to support what I'm saying or you're against me and must be convinced at any costs or eliminated. I'm a little skeptical about radical changes in society, i think people have always been like that, we just have the means now with internet and social media. But I don't personally think this is a threat to society as it is now, can cause damage, but also creates opportunity for discussions and maybe improvement in some of the topics debated

[GutsNCascaBerserking]

I do agree with that, because much of it would have been ignored in the past. I know that some of these topics have decades of history, and that they are only now being given the light of day.
The main issue is how political figures, corporate entities, and various other elites are using it as a dividing tool.

Though what terrifies me is how you can speak with a student of psychology, and they can't seem to grasp simple concepts.. such as
Male and Female psychology are NOT the same thing. The male and female brain work differently.. IS IT a significant difference? No. However, there are things that the female mind can do more efficiently than the male mind, and vice versa.
For example. Females are more nurturing, more capable of multitasking, and tend to have a strength in certain subjects in comparison to males.. Female sexuality is also more complex and fluid..
These are just realities...
The differences are not necessarily so extreme.. it doesn't mean a male can't have a fluid sexuality, its just that fluid sexuality is a more natural aspect of female sexuality
Same thing applies to males being nurturing... YES Men can have nurturing qualities, but those qualities are also more often found in women (for obvious reasons)..

We use to understanding hormones and genetics... biology.. etc.
We dont seem to grasp this anymore
and its terrifying when students of those fields know little about those realities
and when leading educators are unwilling to accept it for political cred.
The same thing applies to the realities of biology, which seemed to be completely ignored by this individual

[GutsNCascaBerserking]

^ specifically in biology
The acceptance that men and women have different genitalia
That males and females have different development periods
That men and women are physically difference for very obvious reasons.
women have wider hips.. men have more upper body strength...

Yet, we are happy to allow a biological male compete in sports with a biological female... Why? because they identify as female..
Because we are unwilling to accept that male and female bodies are different..

Yet, on the flipside
We will go out of our way to accept the weaknesses of women when it suites the narrative that is being pushed..
We are more than happy to accept the horribleness of men... when it confirms to the narrative we want to speak

Once again, we have people out preaching that men and women are the same.
that we can't define men or women... because male and female is assigned at birth... NOT something you are born as.. its whatever you want to define yourself as being..

[GutsNCascaBerserking]

Yet these same people preach about the superiority of women.. and the inferiority of men..
the brutality of men, and their inability to treat women right..
how they always think with their dicks..
how men are simply not worth having around.. because of how they have ruined everything.
Because we all know its Male Patriarchy..

Because that somehow makes sense to these people?
That is what I mean
I am yet to find any arguments that make any sense..
YET they permeate culture in every way
They are the basis of our news
They are the basis of our entertainment
They are slowly becoming the basis of our education
They are slowly integrating themselves in every aspect of society

to such a degree that a foolish college student can be educated by their 60 year old professor on concepts that logically make no sense...
Yet they are expected to leave any disagreements at the door
because we know that microaggressions can hurt people
and that you better give in and accept that you are a terrible person for thinking otherwise..
As if such an ideology is not authoritarian in its nature
YET, preaches as if its the great freedom to ever exist

What a absolutely bizarre world we live in

[GutsNCascaBerserking]

Sorry, that is my rant over. haha

[GutsNCascaBerserking]

I will say that I think one of the most hilarious ironies of this particular topic..
Though it argues to create an equality between men and women (which I don't think it really does anymore)
The entire basis of how we define each term, is very much structured on how we view men.
We define female strength in a way, that makes it masculine.
While, ignoring the strength of feminine qualities.

Just think about that...
These modern movements are so lost..
That they actually create the very struggles, that they claim to fight.

Instead of concentrating on the real strengths of feminine qualities (which I think in the past use to be part of the feminist movement)...
They now attempt to turn ignore these feminine qualities, and instead require women to adopt masculine ones..

The same thing applies to most of the other movements.
They have muddled things so severely, that it is actually quite different to grasp what exactly is being fought...

In most ways, I think these movements are creating a more authoritarian world... than developing any true sense of equality..
BUT then again, I don't think these organizations really want that.

[justEric]

Haha that's ok, you needed to get it off your chest. But yes, you summarized well what we see frequently among certain groups. I'm actually a supporter of LGBT people, I believe they have the right to be respected and to be able to express themselves as they really are since it's not harmful to anyone and I don't get the hate they suffer mainly from more conservative groups, they hate back and so on in an endless cycle. But nothing can be ad eternum or limitless, and this situation you mentioned of former men competing with women is unfair and directly affects other people, although they might get surgeries and take hormones, the body will still be a man's body and there's a big difference in body structure and muscles, men and women are obviously biologically different. In my country there was a situation like that in volleyball some time ago and it was visible the competition was unbalanced. People must be treated differently to ensure equity and need specific opportunities to be able to shine in their respective characteristics. Stating that everybody should be the same creates distortions such as what you said and nullifies a lot of arguments people in certain groups use to demand their rights

[jshm2]

You're confused and ill informed.

We live in an age of opinions and personalities. Facts mean very little to most, as it's all about emotions and identity, not facts.

People want to be seen with certain groups, irrespective of if that group is right or wrong. In fact they are ardent that the group "cannot be wrong,"... in their opinion, of course.

This is the cancer stage of civilisation where groups refuse to move past opinions and emotions and leads to fractures and the eventual breakdown.

[Anonymous]

Been like that a while now. Otherwise shit like for example GamerGate would never have been a thing in the first place.

Its just how SJWs operates, facts only matters when they support their feelings.

[GutsNCascaBerserking]

That is sadly a reality of the modern world.
I just finished having a conversation with one on here, that has a ranking as GURU.
They were incapable of defending any of their positions, and immediately resorted to calling me bigoted, and blocked me.

What was the discussion?
Well, what is a woman? What makes women different from men?
Simple realities, of how female psychology is NOT the same thing as male psychology..
female biology.. is NOT the same thing as male biology...
These are very basic known facts...

This person that was a GURU member... claimed to by a psychology student
and that is what is most terrifying...

[OddBeMe]

of course. as communication gets faster and wider, facts and corrobation falls shorter.

[888theGreat]

People want to be told lies because they can't handle the truth.