Why are Democrats labeling everyone who doesn't support Biden exchanging Brittany Griner for Viktor Bout a racist homophobe?

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For 99% of people, the problem isn't that a black gay woman was released, the problem is that a Russian arm's dealer know as the merchant of death was released in exchange for her release. Frankly Biden and Harris are hypocrites, they put so much effort into releasing one drug offender, when they could have spent the same effort freeing thousands of drug offenders at home that they them selves are responsible for being in prison.

WhiteSteve · Accepted Answer

The issue here is that we’re trying to rescue an American citizen from a foreign prison. How they landed themselves there isn’t super-important to me. I’m not really in favor of prison, conceptually, anyway, so I don’t want Viktor in our prisons either, that’s simply a humanity issue for me. I don’t buy into the concept of criminality as a general rule, laws are mostly very arbitrarily arrived at and even more arbitrarily enforced, and I simply don’t believe freedom to be on the table for revocation for any living being, under almost any circumstance.

With that said, under the reality that there IS prison, right or wrong…I’ve just never seen Griner spoken well of by many people, from the JUMP, before we could even start trying to make comparisons of her vs Bout or any other foreign prisoner of America. There was just no sympathy, it was “what an idiot, she deserves whatever happens to her.” I’m just saying that different figures could’ve had the same thing happen to them, and if it wasn’t a 6’10 black lesbian who white American dudes don’t want to fuck, it might be different. There are levels to it, and I notice conservatives (liberals too, but they aren’t relevant to this particular discussion) have these tiers of acceptability. It really does seem like many of them idealize the straight white conservative man. But they’ll take a straight white conservative woman too. Or after that a straight non-white man or woman, often made a show of, like “see? We aren’t racists!”, which is really just as racist as being outright racist, lmao. They’ll accept a gay person as long as they’re REALLY conservative, see: Milo Yiannopolis, although I guess that got him enough guff that he know claims himself as “ex-gay”…. just lmao.

On the flip side, if you say liberal things, there are tiers to how hard they’ll hate on you. Honestly, I hate to sound condescending, but I almost feel like YOU GUYS don’t realize you’re doing it, sometimes, anyway. If you’re a straight white liberal guy, they’ll just call you a pussy and try to bully you by challenging your manhood and suggesting that it’s “soft” to be liberal. The white women are “typical idiot liberal women who don’t understand how the world works”, yadda yadda, and a lot of that seems to be tied to dating frustrations, as many women these days want nothing to do with ultra-conservative men. All the “swipe left if you voted for Trump” on Tinder and such. But in your heart of hearts, you still want them based on their looks, the attractive ones, anyway, and it turns into this painfully obvious “I’m rejecting you before you reject me, so I win” thing. If you’re a 6’10 WNBA center who prefers the company of women, you’re totally out and don’t have a leg to stand on with these people. Unless you’re a super-patriot, then you’d become a token. But if you aren’t the biggest of patriots, you’re fucked with these people. And that’s one thing I’ll never understand, this idea that you MUST be unwaveringly patriotic and uncritical of America, it’s government, and it’s society in order to be accepted as a citizen. That’s LUDICROUS. That’s quite literally what the First Amendment is for, the ability to say whatever you feel like about the government. Any other speech is not truly “free” and can come with repercussions from one angle or another, individual consequences, societal ostracization, that’s all fair, but we’re supposed to be able to talk shit about the government without the government stopping us. So to disagree with Griner’s feelings is fine, but you’re out of line suggesting that she doesn’t deserve her country’s help. I’m going to say this REAL slowly so you guys can understand: It’s completely ok to not like or love where you live, or aspects about it, and to be vocal about it. It does not make you any less of a citizen.

I’m not a Democrat, but I suppose I prefer them to Republicans, generally speaking, more so in opposition to conservative values than in support of liberal ones. I don’t subscribe to “left vs right” bullshit, but in others’ estimations, I’d wager they might say even democrats are a little too much to the right for my liking, so it’s not like I think they do enough. They really just serve to stifle Republican interests, which are what I REALLY don’t want to live under, that’s my nightmare. So I don’t have a favorite team, just one that I more dislike and root against. But it’s not lost on me that the people complaining about this are only the ones who have been on a mission to universally trash Biden’s every move, the ones who frame every positive, negative, or neutral event in such a way as to make it look like a failure by Biden or the Democrats. I don’t know if you think the rest of us are stupid and can’t see that, or what.

Soteris · Accepted Answer

No. I would just say you are an idiot.

First of all, this is not even a surprise. All countries do this regularly. Any cost is negligible in exchange for recovering one of your own citizens. This is not because they dont consider Viktor as dangerous (even if the whole nickname business is fucking childish as hell) but because respectable countries puts an incredible amount of value in their own citizens as a matter of course.

USA will move heaven and earth to recover one of their citizens so releasing a single prisoner is a cheap price to pay.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

There’s no doubt, it was an uneven swap (although Victor Bout had less than 7 years left to serve of his 25 year sentence). An international arms dealer for a petty drug offender. Russia used Griner as a pawn, giving her an excessive sentence so she would be an attractive bargaining chip. They knew what they were doing all along. People on the right only wanted to see her rot because they don’t agree with her lifestyle or her political views and that’s wrong. What if it had been Ivanka Trump? No American citizen should be left to serve nine years in a Russian work camp over a stupid vial of cannabis oil. Getting her back was just the right thing to do. If they had given her a year or less (which is reasonable), I would have said let her serve the time. Now they need to get the other Americans being held over there on trumped up charges back as well. The outsized media attention on Griner’s case probably helped her cause at the expense of others still stuck over there. I would also say Americans traveling abroad need to be more careful and not put the U. S. government in this position in the first place.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

99% where? Lol because I’ve yet to see anyone relating this situation to race and homophobia. I’ve only seen comments Regarding Victor being the merchant of death and how Griner “hates America”. Not saying that there aren’t people with the POV you mentioned but I definitely wouldn’t say the majority, and I’ve seen plenty of comments on more than one platform without even looking for them.

Lionman95 · Answer

Because they have to legitimize the exchange. Biden and the Democrats know they have to give out a good reason that Americans accept why he gave a weapons dealer free. Now blaming all the people that rightly complain that he gave a dangerous guy freedom is a move to distract the attention away from what happened. It also shows what the deal really is: A propaganda attempt to his main voters showing them that no matter which minority you´re part of America is there for you and willing to pay the prize.

BCRanger10 · Answer

Because to Democrats, everything they don't like and everyone who doesn't 100% agree with and support them to the letter is a racist, homophobe, whatever else they throw out these days. It's such a joke.

FunkyMonkee · Answer

Because that's the only way they can think of to "combat" us. They project their OWN faults onto their enemies and make THEM out to be whatever it is that THEY actually are!!

LiamJHayden · Answer

Who cares? The Left called Larry Elder "The Black Face of White Supremacy." They are shameless POS whose entire game plan is to tax the productive in order to buy off the lazy and inept.

Anonymous · Answer

Biden is a moron. Apparently, most voters were hoping for a moron. The morons won.

SmokinAces2000 · Answer

What’s funny to me is that the self proclaimed “patriots” just turned a blind eye and we’re perfectly fine with an American citizen getting a ridiculous prison sentence

gorydetails · Answer

Aren't you called racist, homophobic, transphobic, and sexist any time you disagree with a leftist?

AngryCarl · Answer

Don't you think the right make a rod for their own backs by openly advertising their prejudices?

jimmy2 · Answer

I dont

Anonymous · Answer

What a load of bullshit.

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