Do you support or oppose legalized prostitution and why?

[Anonymous]

Turns out we do more harm than good. We should live in a more free society.
This would also be good news for incels that can’t get laid. We would be making people happier as a result especially in the USA.

The reason why it’s dangerous for it to remain illegal.
1. Women are exploited and taken advantage of. Often robbed and not able to go to police because it’s illegal.

2. STDs, HIV and other aids spread because it isn’t regulated or controlled. People are not required to have an STD test prior to meeting.

Support (regulated and made safer for both parties)

Oppose (not regulated and made more dangerous for both parties)

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+1 y

Why do you people oppose wtf bro

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+1 y

Thank you, get the pimps out of the market!

[Lliam]

I think it should be legal. I agree with the two reasons you cited.

In addition, as a legitimate business, prostitutes could claim income, pay taxes, be eligible for social security. They could form associations and even corporations to provide safety, security, health insurance, unemployment insurance, pensions, and other things that employees and self employed people have access to.

They could have permanent places of business and be certified and rated by the health department, just like restaurants and salons.

After all, prostitutes just provide a service, no different than retail, law, accounting, hair and nail salons, entertainment venues, and so on.

I think it would be beneficial to many men who could get much needed sexual release without have to fear being robbed or arrested and having their lives ruined.

I can see only benefits from legalization.

[Lliam]

Thanks for the MHO.

[MrOracle]

I'm not a supporter of prostitution, but anyone who has a brain can see that the prohibition has made the whole situation worse. Like any vice that is outlawed, it just allows criminals to come in and take over, and the result is far worse for everyone.

The legal, regulated brothels in Nevada have few problems and very little violence. Criminal-run brothels - which exist in every good-sized city - are essentially full of enslaved girls, often trafficked from other countries, and are associated with drugs, violence, and corruption. That's supposed to be better?

It was the same with alcohol prohibition - of course there are real problems with alcohol, but the prohibition made the situation far worse rather than better. Both prohibitions were passed by naive people who failed to take into account human nature, and especially criminal nature.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I support... I've been in countries where it's legal and I was better off banging 2 or 3 chicks a night than doing the LTR thing. It's clean and they don't even suck your dick without a condom on... I just don't understand the problem. Although... here in the states where they'll tell you they have HIV and is willing to go without a condom... I'm not jumping into this scene. You Americans can enjoy it... I'm out bruah. I don't think it needs to be said... I miss banging about 5 to 8 girls a night at $20 per pop. It was clean and I thing over the few years I was doing that on a daily basis... my body count is probably in the thousands at least.

So what is good about it? I was focused on my job and not giving a second of thought about any relationship outside of work.

[Berethor]

Prostitution reduce rape rates so I support a legalization, unsatisfied men can be dangerous.

https://journalistsresource.org/politics-and-government/legal-prostitution-reduce-rape-holland/

[Cubus]

Of course I oppose. For two reasons.
1. This objectifies women. I strongly support feminist's doctrine of fighting against treating women as a piece of meat.
2. Studies show that prostitution (where it is legal) is the job with the highest risk of death (higher than working as a miner, construction worker or timberman).

[Asker]

1. What about pornography? That is much more of a problem.
2. That is just false.

[Cubus]

1. Pornography is a different topic, and it's also a problem.
2. It's true. You may check it
www.theguardian.com/.../selling-sex-is-highly-dangerous-treating-it-like-a-regular-job-only-makes-it-worse

[MrOracle]

That article actually works against your argument, @Cubus. That incident happened in the UK, where prostitution is prohibited, and it was that very prohibition that made that murder so likely, and is the direct cause of prostitution being so dangerous. The article SAYS that legalization would make it more dangerous, but provides no evidence of any substance to support this other than the author's opinion.

I don't disagree that prostitution is bad for most women's long-term mental health and happiness, but that's a separate issue - one which the author intentionally conflates. When you are talking about violence and other associated crimes, all of those are EXPONENTIALLY higher when prostitution is illegal, even when you remove the actual prostitution-related charges. It's not hard to understand why: when prostitution is illegal, it doesn't occur any less, it's just kept underground and operated by criminals who have no reason to care for the health and safety of the women, beyond their ability to earn.

It's the same basic issues that happened when alcohol was prohibited - criminals took over, violence and corruption skyrocketed, and people actually drank MORE - AND lost respect for the justice system. That's also what's happening with prostitution.

[Cubus]

@MrOracle It is said that data was from countries where it is legal, like Netherlands.

[MikeInHawaii]

Support. Women throw themselves at rich men all the time. I call that “implicit prostitution.” An agreed upon fee for services is “explicit prostitution.” And, a woman who marries for money is just a whore with a steady job and a union contract, whereas a street walker is a temp or day labor.

I think pimping should carry the death penalty.

[ERB62]

I am of the view it is going to continue, I say continue to be decriminalized and legalized, standardized, given it's own special area of town (s), taxed, requirement of either grandfathered in or went to school for it along with a certified diploma and card. California is leading the way.

[notwoke]

and the often overlooked benefit - If more women were prostitutes, we might be forced to put less of them in positions of power due to diversity and inclusion requiremenrts ahead of more qualified candidates. This would mean more capable people in important positions which would naturally lead to better advances in medical care, technology, safety, the environment, etc.

[Tamera952]

Abso-fucking-lutely!! Legal across the board, period.

[Jersey2]

Years ago I would have said no. Today women can and do get laid whenever they want with the top tier guys. Guys should have the opportunity to do the same by simply paying what would be the cost of a movie and dinner.

[WellGreetingsISay]

I support it. I'd never use it myself, but it's better for everyone involved for safety.

[Pudsmucker]

Legalizing prostitution and make it legal for both male and female. Have it monitored to prevent white slave trade and any STDs. Certifying all sex workers. With a 90-day working card.

[es20490446e]

a good compromise is allowing prostitution, but now allowing to advertise it.

[Anonymous]

Most women are prostitutes in some way or another. Be it directly, like an actual hooker, or indirectly through using sex to get shit from men, In dating and relationships.
Trading sex for material or financial gain is prostitution.

[gorydetails]

Legalized prostitution is correlated with a rise in human trafficking.

[Asker]

Sources please.

[gorydetails]

You’re capable of googling. I believe it’s a UN report.

[Asker]

According to my source is says there’s a decrease in human trafficking

[es20490446e]

it increases human trafficking.

[gorydetails]

Your source isn’t correct.

[es20490446e]

my source is official data, so we digress.

[SorcerorCam]

This is why you don't answer a request for sources with "Google it". Two posts before you someone claimed legalizing prostitution makes it more dangerous, and to "prove" it they then cited a study done in a place where it was illegal. The only way we can actually validate your source and your interpretation of it is to actually look at it. Otherwise, your claim that it's sourced is worthless.

[gorydetails]

@SorcerorCam If you're not intelligent to do your own research, it's not my job to spoon feed you. ESPECIALLY when so many are trying to debate in bad faith and play the game of smear the messenger.

[SorcerorCam]

You're an anonymous rando on the internet. No one has any reason to believe you.

If you tried doing this in an actual debate, you'd be laughed off the stage.

[gorydetails]

@SorcerorCam And if someone was on a debate stage and after someone provided evidence of a claim went "hurr durr that's a nazi website" they'd be laughed off as well.

[es20490446e]

I saw it in a documentary, where a ministry of France was talking about the data they had.

[es20490446e]

I don't recall the title tough.

[gorydetails]

This is from Harvard:

orgs.law.harvard.edu/.../

Countries with legalized prostitution are associated with higher human trafficking inflows than countries where prostitution is prohibited. The scale effect of legalizing prostitution, i. e. expansion of the market, outweighs the substitution effect, where legal sex workers are favored over illegal workers. On average, countries with legalized prostitution report a greater incidence of human trafficking inflows.

The effect of legal prostitution on human trafficking inflows is stronger in high-income countries than middle-income countries. Because trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation requires that clients in a potential destination country have sufficient purchasing power, domestic supply acts as a constraint.

Criminalization of prostitution in Sweden resulted in the shrinking of the prostitution market and the decline of human trafficking inflows. Cross-country comparisons of Sweden with Denmark (where prostitution is decriminalized) and Germany (expanded legalization of prostitution) are consistent with the quantitative analysis, showing that trafficking inflows decreased with criminalization and increased with legalization.

The type of legalization of prostitution does not matter — it only matters whether prostitution is legal or not. Whether third-party involvement (persons who facilitate the prostitution businesses, i. e, “pimps”) is allowed or not does not have an effect on human trafficking inflows into a country. Legalization of prostitution itself is more important in explaining human trafficking than the type of legalization.

Democracies have a higher probability of increased human-trafficking inflows than non-democratic countries. There is a 13.4% higher probability of receiving higher inflows in a democratic country than otherwise.

[AimeeKyle]

As long as everyone is an adult, legalize it.

[LiamJHayden]

Only if includes a provision to execute, by slow torture, traffickers.

[driven159]

made safer and regulated and get the pimps out of it

[Alex8736]

support

[In_Trance]

Stop asking this

[es20490446e]

why?