Why do conservatives create and promote obvious lies and myths?

[msc545]

This happens lot on GaG where conservatives have insisted repeatedly that:

1. Biden has dementia - Even though he has never been diagnosed with dementia and has no signs or symptoms of it conservatives have repeated this myth many times on here. It is a lie.

2. There is a "southern border crisis". The conservatives that repeat this lie are people that have never been to the border to see the situation but continue to insist that "illegal immigrants are streaming across the border" even though this is False. I personally live very near the border and cross it several times a month, and it is NOT open, and there is no "crisis". This is an outright lie.

I cannot understand why conservatives repeat these and other lies since by doing sp they severely damage their own credibility in regard to everything else they say.

[lightbulb27]

News Marketing.

The message in the right media is what you stated plus the "craziness of trans phobia".

Biden - have you seen the endless videos of him fumbling over his words? If you only see left media, you will NEVER see them! SNL won't touch that anymore than the media would touch FDR's paralysis. If Trump stumbled like that, it would be all over the media. After you review all video footage of Biden stumbling over his words, getting lost on stage, needing to be guided about, let us know what you think. I wouldn't say has dementia, it's a stretch, but he has nowhere near the energy Trump or any other president I've seen have and it's... scary to see.

Souther Border Crisis - what? We've had a crisis for multiple Presidencies including under Trump and before that, that's why Obama wanted to build a wall, tried, gave up. What BS is that? If there is no border crisis why was the administration complaining about all the immigrants texas was shipping up to Marthas Vineyard, New York, Chicago, and other places? I've got a fresh load of 20,000 of them in my city and the NYC was complaining "we are at capacity"... per the Mayor.

Also, there's videos on people making the trip across south america and dying in the jungles to get to USA.

the reason you don't see a border crisis is due to the media you watch. They don't cover it on CNN, but if Trump was president, you'd see starving children dying in ditches and being washed down rivers as mothers cry for their babies. AOC would be livid.

Mind control. Your media feed in Youtube and instagram I'd bet $$$,$$$,$$$ is very different from mine. You have to create a new account and watch different media to get a different view.

Scary times... no wonder we are all so divided, our media is hand picked for us out of the controlled search engines, based upon what we usually watch. Most people aren't the wiser to figure that out, espdcially kids... were F@#@#d!

[msc545]

Bien may have some mobility problems, but at his age many people do. So what?

As to the "border crisis", I don't watch media about it. I stand in front of it or drive through it (yes you can do that) in person. There is NO crisis.

[lightbulb27]

It's a long border of what...2000 miles? One mile isn't a way to judge it is it?
What was this?
nypost.com/.../
and why would a sanctuary city say something like this?
www.voanews.com/.../6919855.html

lastly... and why in the name of god would our VP say something like DT would say to such people?
www.npr.org/.../harris-tells-guatemalans-not-to-migrate-to-the-united-states

If it's all well managed and under control?

[msc545]

You've not seen it, have you? You are now relying on the media that one post previously you castigated. You cannot have it both ways. Pick one.

I have seen it from less than 5 feet away, from 100 yards, and from 5000 feet in the air. I've also seen the entire expanse of it and the surrounding terrain from the air. Your reliance on rumor and orthodox conservative ideology won't hold up.

[lightbulb27]

I've not seen it. So there was a crisis when Trump was in power [I saw the left medias cries] but no crisis now... when the democratic governors were complaining about all the immigrants coming in? Something don't sound right...
I provided multiple links of evidence. It is odd how there is no crisis in the left media though.

www.pewresearch.org/.../

Why would the government use such terms if there wasn't a "crisis"?
www.cbp.gov/frontline/border-crisis-cbp-s-response

www.cnn.com/.../index.html

It isn't a right theme only issue...

[msc545]

It is primarily a right-wing talking point.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Yes, because it was Biden that created the crisis and they do not want to talk about it. Nothing to see here folks- look over there- Trump is falsifying documents.

[exitseven]

Okay- Biden had a physical. The doctor reported on his overall health but volunteered nothing about his mental faculties. If there was nothing to hide there would have been at least some mention of it. The democrats have already said the Biden will hide in the basement and surrogates will campaign for him.

There is a crisis at the border. The border is a pretty big area and just because illegal aliens are not cutting through your property there are hundreds of people that report that they are cutting through their property. The Border Patrol keeps track of how many encounters they have with an illegal alien. It is over 6 million. These are official government statistics and these are just the illegal aliens we know about. There are many who evade the Border Patrol and just sneak into the country undetected.

[msc545]

You seem to think that because YOU have decided that he has some "mental problem" his doctors should recognize it and agree with you, and if they don't they are hiding something.

Do you see a problem with your own logic here?

You also cite unattributed "statistics" allegedly made public by the Border Patrol. Where is the link to that data?

[exitseven]

everyone knows he is as soft as a sneaker full to use a clinical term and people would be interested if his doctor was able to address the nation's concerned but he omitted itcompletely.

Here is a link from the fsake news that you would probsbly believe. It is only for one year but you can get the idea.
www.nbcnews.com/.../migrant-border-crossings-fiscal-year-2022-topped-276-million-breaking-rcna53517

[msc545]

"Everyone knows" that opinions about complex medical conditions are best left to experts - of which I am one.

[msc545]

As for your article, even if those numbers are right, so what? People would not be immigrating were it not for shitty conditions in their own countries which the US and the IMF are directly responsible for.

You want free or cheap labor and you also want no immigrants at all.

Pick one.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Those numbers are the official government statistics. If anything, they are under reported. As far as people immigrating, I have no problem with that as long as they follow our immigration laws. Throwing out berders open and letting anybody that feels like coming just walk through the front door and then saddling up the taxpayers with supporting them will just end up bankrupting this country. When President Trump was in office those so called shitty conditions still existed but we did not have the invasion that we have now. Trump gpt the word out that they were not welcome here and would be sent back. They all stayed home. Biden promised them that they could just walk in and they would not be sent back and they would get free housing, food , healthcare , education and a free iPad. It was like ringing the dinnerbell for freeloaders.
Two weeks ago a 28 year old mother of two was rear ended by a pickup truck. She was run off the road and died. The pickup truck left the scene and it took the cops a few days to find the guy. Yes, he was an illegal alien. What if this was your wife or mother? This is not an isolated incident either, it has happened all over the country. My wife had a patient that was in a wheelchair because an illegal alien ran her down while she was out walking. The cops found the guy and when it went to court the judge basically told the woman that besides deporting him there was nothing else he could do. So this woman had to spend the rest of her life in a wheelchair because of Biden's policies. Our government is supposed to protect it's citizens, not created dangerous situations that get them killed.

[msc545]

According to conservatives, the government always lies or is completely unreliable. What has changed now that government statistics seem to support your position?

[msc545]

Also where is your link to the anecdote? You just told about some other being in a car accident and it being the fault of some illegal immigrant? It sounds like a made-up story. I'm sorry to say that but it just does not sound credible. Please supply the link and I'll change my mind about that.

[exitseven]

@msc545 This is the link.

www.enterprisenews.com/.../

They omit the fact that he was an illegal Alien but one of the local TV stations picked it up ah had the courage to tell the truth.

www.boston25news.com/.../

[msc545]

Thanks for providing those links - it was indeed a horrible accident. I don't think that the driver's immigration status CAUSED the accident at all. Do you?

[exitseven]

@msc545 He may have been drunk which happens frequently. My wife's patient was mowed down by an illegal alien that was drunk and driving a car with no insurance. As a result she was on the hook for medical expenses and all other expenses incurred by this. There is no link for this, you will have to take my word for it, but it did happen. This poor lady is in a wheel chair and the insanity of it is that the state voted to give illegal aliens free drivers licenses.

[msc545]

There is absolutely no evidence that he was drunk, and the cops didn't think so either apparently. You are grasping at straws to support your untenable contentions here.

[exitseven]

@msc545 I do not have to prove he was drunk but I have shown that he was here illegally. That should be enough. The government is supposed to protect it'd citizens. That is what we pay taxes for. This administration is failing miserably.

[Anonymous]

Truth is irrelevant. For them, it’s all about creating a false reality that justifies their policy positions and rallies people to their cause. Your border analogy is a good one. No one knows how many illegal crossings there are each year. It’s an impossible statistic to accurately calculate. The numbers are purely speculative. They create the perception that hordes of brown skinned people are pouring across the border each day to keep their base angry and voting Republican. In reality, they just don’t want more non-white people here.

[msc545]

Actually they do want non-white people here but they only want the ones that are willing to work for slave labor wages. Unfortunately for them not all immigrants are willing to do that.

[msc545]

They have never really forgotten all the trouble that Caesar Chavez stirred up or the fact that he did what he did in support of justice.

[Anonymous]

Ad Hominems are an attempt to shift the discussion from an Idea to a Person, because they can not master an effective refutation of their opponent's argument, based upon logic and facts. Those constantly spreading conspiracy theories and verifiable lies are doing so to avoid talking issues or providing solutions

[DryGermanGuy]

Not to mention, "Biden is paid by the Chinese". That's really the dumbest slandering, because everybody can inform himself about Biden's stance towards China. Even as Vice President he approved tons of military sales to Taiwan, against all protests from the CCP. The current sales list is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwan#Joe_Biden_(2021-01-20_-_2025-01-20)

His policy successes against China include a complete ban by European companies (Dutch are market leaders) for exporting their latest generation chip manufacturing machines (!!!).

[Littlejugs99]

1. Having watched Biden in his interviews and speeches it's clear that he has mild dementia.

https://youtu.be/WtYyfyr6Q-E

2. There is a boarder crisis. As anyone who lives in a boarder state will tell you. We are at the stage where either ilegal immigration has to be cut down on and the boarder secured or northern states need to share the burden out and take more ilegals.

[msc545]

I see. You are an expert on the diagnosis of dementia at age 19?

[Littlejugs99]

The signs are there. He is in his 70s.

[msc545]

What do you think the "signs" are?

[Littlejugs99]

https://youtu.be/xDIpfm3eQ4M

[msc545]

A Youtube video with "Dr" Grande won't cut it.

[Littlejugs99]

Prove that he doesn't have dementia then.

[msc545]

You don't seem to understand the fallacy of asking someone to prove a negative.

Argumentum Ad Ignorantiam (Argument From Ignorance):​ concluding that something is true since you can't prove it is false. For example "God must exist since no one can demonstrate that she does not exist."

[Littlejugs99]

Uh huh. Just because you can look up big words in the dictionary that doesn't make Biden any less senile.

[RealMarek]

Where I am there are often groups of young men and boys from Central America walking along rural roads toward the cities from the border. Also, locals here are being driven out of apartments because the USG is housing migrants in apartments and the locals cannot outbid the government. Not all locales and sections of border are equally affected. Where the consequences are felt most keenly believe me, it’s an incredibly destabilizing crisis.

[FilmGuy93]

People look for things to reinforce their world view and demean the world view of people they disagree with.

[Agape93]

Same as any group does. To demean opponents, weaken the people and push their own agendas.

[DCooper]

How do you know he hasn't been diagnosed with dementia? Are you privy to his medical records? He speaks and acts like he has some serious mental degradation; and it's not like his campaign people are going to be any more truthful upfront about his condition than they are about anything else.

As far as the southern border, a million illegals a year is about 990k too many to be trying to claim it isn't open.

[msc545]

How do you know that any of what you claim is true?

[msc545]

Attempting to make your point by demanding that your opponent proven negative is bullshit as you probably know

[msc545]

Prove a negative

[lottiebannotie]

The same reasons Democrats do to win an election none of you has the moral high ground Democrats are considered far right in Europe American politics is frankly sickening

[XiJinping]

Biden is probably in the top five most brilliant people in the world. How else can you get the job of being the leader of the free world?

[msc545]

not sure about brilliant or free world

[Anonymous]

I see it everyday on here and on other sites, and the right-wing dummies just roll with it.

[slatyb]

Because the facts lean left.