I was at Giant Eagle today and bought a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread. I hadn't been to this particular store in at least a month and they've made some changes since I was last there. This woman in front of me bought well over $100 in groceries and, I noticed the cashiers no longer deal with money!! When you use money to pay for your stuff, you have to stoop way down to almost sitting on the floor and feed your bills into a slot one at a time and it spits out your change from another slot! I watched her shove nearly a dozen 20's into that slot!!
They've also converted the normal full service lines into self-serve lines! I mean, one minute it's full service and when a cashier leaves, it's converted to self-serve in seconds!
Anyway, they no longer use plastic bags! They have a rack of bags that COULD be plastic, I'm not sure, I never bothered to check because they cost a dollar a bag!! Well, the cashier put my milk and bread into the same paper bag. Okay, it had nice strong handles on it but, what good is that when, half an hour later, the "sweat" from the plastic milk bottle tore a huge hole into the bottom of the bag and I nearly LOST everything while getting on the bus! I never even noticed the hole `til I sat down on the bus!! (I had to catch another bus to get all the way home so, during the switch, I stopped into another place and asked if they had a plastic bag. They did.)
Upon seeing this huge hole in the paper bag, it got me wondering. Obviously, this is all about the "climate change" hoax that all of the stupid people fell for. It takes oil to make plastic which you've been bullshitted into believing is bad for the planet! But, to make paper bags, you need trees! So, which do YOU think is better for the planet? Not making plastic bags or deforesting large swaths of land to make paper? And you KNOW those machines they USE to deforest are using LOTS of oil, either as fuel or lubrication! So, what, exactly, are they saving?
Paper or plastic?
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The more they deforest, the less green the planet will be!! In the meantime, BECAUSE of CO2, huge areas of land that USED to be desert are becoming forests, again!! So, by going from plastic to paper, you're basically slitting your own throat!!
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Banning Plastic is not mainly because of global warming, but to reduce plastic waste in the rivers, lakes and ocean.
One time use bags are totally BS anyway. So better bring your own bags you can reuse a hundred times.
Production of one time usage items and wrappings cost a shitton of rescources, regardless if its paper, plastic, hemp, linen, cotton, glass... So buy that 1$ bag and use it for the next 5 yearso or so.
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That isn't going to work. Everytime I buy milk the container leaks milk into the bag. That would mean constantly washing the bag you're talking about in a washing machine which uses electricity. Or you can keep using the same old nasty bag over and over. Yuck!
Now how we pay for things is changing and too hard to keep up with. Some stores want cash only. Some stores only want credit or debit cards. I guess we don't get to choose how to pay for the things we buy anymore. No wonder people are going crazy. Trying to keep up with all of these changes is about to drive me to the funny farm.
How about teaching your children NOT to litter? Stop showing shit like that in movies and on t. v.! I was watching a Bond movie last night where, he had a drink in his hand and, as soon as he finished it, he just dropped the glass to the floor! He wasn't in any kind of a rush or a dire situation and could've very easily bent over to put it on a table next to him. People see that and think it's okay to do likewise.
About 20 years ago, I was waiting for a bus downtown and spotted this girl at least in her late teens or early 20's, leaning on a public garbage can with her right arm and she had a large McDonald's drink in that hand. She put the straw up to her mouth, sucked out the last of her drink and then just opened her hand and let the fucking cup drop to the street as if she didn't even know she had the cup! How hard could it have been to bend her wrist to drop it into the garbage can she was leaning on?
And, not long before that, I was on my way to see my girlfriend when we got a sudden micro-burst and we were pummeled by hail stones and TONS of rain in just 15:00!! It started just before I got on the bus to her place and stopped about 10:00 into the 15:00 trip! The street just below hers was flooded at least knee high! Well, when the streets are dry, you can easily see WHY that street was flooded! EVERY SEWER on that street is PACKED TO OVERFLOWING with GARBAGE!! So, the water has NO PLACE TO GO!!
Yeah! Reusable bags are the way to go but, if they're not allowed to make them anymore, how are you gonna do that? And look at how many people that are gonna be laid off now after the plastic bag factories close up! There's NO WAY we're gonna EVER get rid of plastic!! It coats wires, they use it to build cars, and THOUSANDS of other things! The phone lines are now all plastic! They spent the past 20 or 30 years replacing metal wires with plastic! 50 years ago, there was a battle between glass bottles and plastic, plastic won! At least glass bottles you could return to the store for a refund! That's how I used to make extra money; picking up stray bottles and taking them back to the store for money!
Is a shit ton any heavier than any other kind of ton?
No thanks! I've got a shitlload of plastic bags 15' away from me right now and will just keep re-using those `til they're no longer re-usable.
In New York they took away the paper bags and forced customers to use plastic. Then they banned plastic and made you buy those reusable bags. Now if you want a paper bag it costs you 5 cents. They also did away with plastic straws. Now they are made of paper
I would bring my own reusable bag. Production of bags is a wee toxic to the environment.
Plastic bags, you can use over and over again. I got home and had to throw away the paper bag less than an hour after I got it so, what did they save? NOTHING! If I ever go back to that store, I'll try to remember to take some plastic bags with me! I've got TONS of them sitting 15' away from me, right now! I use them as garbage bags and get rid of at least two every week. At least half go into the recycle bin. But, when I go shopping at any other stores, I come back with a couple dozen more!! Paper's fine but it doesn't work that well with wet or heavy stuff!!
That’s what I choose: bring one’s own bag! However, my mum used to bring her own paper bags to Trader Joe’s where she reused them. Now we live in Spain. Plastic bags are recyclable here, but it does take energy to recycle them, so better reuse. Funny, how when I typed reuse, ♻️ emoji came up! We also use the plastic bags to hold the rubbish. You and I use the same way!
It takes energy to recycle paper, too. Probably more because it has to be turned back into pulp through liquification. With plastic, a little heat and it's molten! Also, the amount of plastic they use to make a bag wouldn't even fill half a slot in an ice cube tray! Look at how much paper is needed to make a bag.
I'm a bit of a conservationist but I'm nowhere near as bad as my uncle! He saved every little scrap of paper and used them to write notes, if he needed one!! Grocery store receipts were his biggest target for that. I'll just toss them into recycling! I've got more note pads here than I know what to do with! People keep mailing them to me every few months and I doubt I use more than a couple pages per year, if that!
I see. I’m a bit like Your uncle. When I need to memorise something or to make a wee note, I write it on my arm so later I can write it in my iPad or notebook (I reuse them, too). I’m conservationist, but not a conservative, religiously or politically. Notepad is one word, by the way.
Yeah, the computer program is one word.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/notepad The common noun for a pad of paper in which one jots notes is also one word. Whoever uses that programme?
I do, quite a lot! I can't get the lists I make to line up the way I want them in Word. Most of those lists, I treated 20-some years ago using a simple word processing program and Notepad is the only thing on this computer that can open them the way they were written (or, at least, mostly the way they were written, with very few changes needed to be made).
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