If Trump loses the election, or goes to prison, or both, how will the MAGA people react?

[msc545]

This worrries me a lot.

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4 mo

Right-wing guys, this is your chance to make more threats!

[Leapfrog00]

I can imagine there are going to be more riots. I was reading a news article the other day that he's not eligible to run now because of the 14th Amendment, and the insurrection he committed. A lot of these supporters are saying he had nothing to do with the riot, and even if he wasn't charged, because he announced on camera, in front of millions of people "This is a sad day in America," and then he suggested taking a walk to Capital hill.," That's enough to implicate an involvement because it was said. If he would have kept his mouth shut, they wouldn't have rioted. All ideas keep from somewhere.

I fear for this country. Some of his supporters are apparently undereducated and lack the knowledge of U. S government. Then there are the ones that keep saying that the democratic party is the reason why he was indicted. They couldn't be more wrong. The democratic party is just a political cabinet. Indictments get filed through a court system, not the democratic party. (Whitehouse. gov also has articles on how government works). Trump needs to stop telling me that Joe Biden and his goons are responsible for his indictments because it's making him sound like an idiot. Government doesn't work this way. I'm not a fan of Biden either, but his accomplishments are impressive. ( Loc. gov is a reliable site where accomplishments of past and current presidents can be found). Every fact I just mentioned can be fact-checked online.

Trump started claiming that this was “persecution of a political opponent. Joe Biden had nothing to do with prosecuting him. Trump was indicted in New York on criminal charges. This has nothing to do with the election or any political cabinet for that matter.

I believe some of the MAGA people are a danger to themselves and other people. protesting is an American right, and they deserve to have the freedom to protest all they want, BUT when it comes down to breaking into government buildings and harming others, those rights should be taken away. When I first saw that riot on television, I was disgusted. Those people disgust me. They should be ashamed of themselves for breaking those windows and terrorizing the people inside that building. I don't call them Americans. They're cowards. There are plenty of ways to get a point across without putting fear in others. I pray this country never goes through that again.

[slatyb]

Cowardly as ever.

[Yabbut]

I'm worried it's not going to be pretty no matter what happens, no matter who wins the election.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

The Capitol will have to be put on complete lock down for well over U. S. Presidential Election.

[supercutebutt]

@milyjohn What a surprise. You are a liar.

AP FACT CHECK
Trump did not sign an order to deploy 20,000 troops on Jan. 6
BY JOSH KELETY
Published 9:14 PM EST, October 18, 2022

CLAIM: Former President Donald Trump signed an order to deploy 20,000 National Guard troops before his supporters stormed the U. S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but was stopped by the House sergeant at arms, at the behest of Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While Trump was involved in discussions in the days prior to Jan. 6 about the National Guard response, he issued no such order before or during the rioting. Speaker Pelosi does not control National Guard troops.

apnews.com/.../fact-check-trump-order-national-guard-156055113284

[milyjohn]

@superfatass,

He doesn't get to make the call. All he can do is make the offer.

[supercutebutt]

@milyjohn Liar.

No Pentagon officials deliberately held off on sending the National Guard to the U. S. Capitol during the attacks of Jan. 6, 2021, the House committee investigating the insurrection said in its final report. Rather, it said conflicting messages caused a delay.

The committee lays blame on then-President Trump for the holdup as rioters attacked the building’s police officers, smashed windows and searched for lawmakers for more than three hours until guard members showed up to help quell the chaos.

“President Trump had authority and responsibility to direct deployment of the National Guard in the District of Columbia, but never gave any order to deploy the National Guard on January 6th or on any other day,” the committee wrote in the 845-page report it released Thursday evening. “Nor did he instruct any Federal law enforcement agency to assist.”

[loveslongnails]

@milyjohn Yes, it was planned, by Trump and his cohorts. You got nothing right on this one girl.
www.newsweek.com/chris-miller-donald-trump-deploy-jan-6-troops-capitol-riot-contradiction-testimony-1728207

Chris Miller's sworn testimony wholly contradicts Trump's claim and the entire Pelosi fantasy tale made up by Fox News. Try backing off the kool aid.

[milyjohn]

@loveslongnails
Why didn't Nancy request the protection? LOL

[loveslongnails]

@milyjohn Maybe she didn't think it was necessary? Ask her. Point is, which you ignore as all maga's do, that his own acting Sec of Defense testified that Trump lied. This is why it's useless talking to maga's - even when their own people on the inside disprove or debunk the lies, you maga's persist they are true or throw up bullshit straw men. You can't be reasoned with, even when all facts contradict your propaganda and beliefs. And shit, you're only 25 and a cultie already.

[milyjohn]

@loveslongnails
Nancy didn't ask for the protection, because she wanted this to happen. You say she didn't think it was necessary to guard the Capitol? That's her job. Did she fail, or will you do anything to support her? Would you have had the brains to call in the guard when you KNEW that the most hated man on the planet was going to lose the election?
And if it's useless talking to MAGA's, why are you talking? LOL
Shut up and go into your comfy echo chamber.

[loveslongnails]

@milyjohn Your bullshit needs to be smaked down, silly girl. The useless part is that you'll still believe it.

Pelosi is not responsible for day-to-day operations of Capitol Security; that's the Sargeant at Arms. Nor can she order up the National Guard, nor did she "know" Trump was going to lose the election. The people who KNEW there would be a riot, OBVIOUSLY, sugar plum, were the ones who called OFF the police help and instructed anyone who might help NOT to do it.

Talk about an echo chamber? LOL That's a maga's entire existence - repeating bullshit that's debunked over and over, and you're soooo reliable, like now. LOL

[milyjohn]

@loveslongnails

She can't order the protection, but she can request it. Would you have been as dumb as Nancy and not ordered it?

[loveslongnails]

@milyjohn Why SHOULD she have requested it? Had any lame duck President ordered his followers, with both covert and over operations, to interfere with and/or stop the succession of power after an election? Hmm? Nope. Just your sicko loser boy.

Do you think Miller sent her a copy of his letter? Was she supposed to KNOW all of their Proud Boy plans? LOL Have another hit of that kool aid, girl.

[loveslongnails]

@milyjohn I would have been smart enough to get the impeachment all the way through the Senate and have Trump removed from office long before the next election. As for the requesting the guard, I already answered that. Not only so, but any request would have been denied as the subsequent letters that were circulating proved.

You can re-ask your question anyway you like, your point is irrelevant to what OCCURRED.

[milyjohn]

@loveslongnails

You would't have been smart enough. Thanks.

[loveslongnails]

@milyjohn I wouldn't have allowed it to get to that point. You're not smart enough to not be a maga. LOL

[ByronWolf]

The reason Trump won in 2016 was because a huge majority of Americans live in states that hav enlarge democrat majority cities which cast a democrat cloud over their entire state. These marginalized citizens found someone who was a voice for them. They were wanted to be heard and represented. Our congress does neither due to non existent term limits. Trump made some critical errors in 2020. I voted for him both times. Now I want someone new. I’ve voted on both sides of the aisle I am not a straight republican ballot. I am conservative by nature however our country is more broke than ever right now. You’re telling me out of the hundreds of millions of people in this country two geriatric idiots are the best we had in 2020 and we may look at an election of the exact same two idiots in 2024. No thank you. We need new leadership in this country. No Trump, no Biden, no Harris! I’m sick of what our country is becoming. But I’m afraid until term limits are imposed on congress our country will continue to back slide into oblivion.

[exitseven]

No matter what happens there will be riots. If Trump wins every Democrat run city will be burned to the ground. If Biden wins by the obvious theft of the election or if he is somehow forced off the ballot there will be guerrilla warfare and a covert resistance that will result in the destruction of America. Either way I have been stockpiling supplies and I am trying to find a way to store a couple hundred gallons of gas on my property to power a generator.

If Trump is assassinated all bets are off.

[msc545]

Why would cities be burned down if Trump wins?

[exitseven]

Just before the 2020 election when it looked like Trump would be the likely winner there was a nationwide shortage of plywood because people were boarding up their property in anticipation of more riots and looting. The fabric of our civilization has only eroded further in the last 3 years with the defend the police movement and the give felons a free pass policies of the Soros backed DAs. . Expect the summer of 2020 on steroids.

[exitseven]

*defund*

[msc545]

Evidence?

You keep making inflammatory assertions without any evidence to support what you allege.

[exitseven]

The plywood shortage was a real thing. You can look it up. And it was not Trump supporters thay were afraid of. It was BLM and other leftist terrorist groups.

[RingOfFire]

Good reason to be worried. There has never been such an assault on democracy in America as what the Marxist Democrats have undertaken from the day President Trump came down the elevator and declared he was running for president the first time.

He was a Washington outsider right from the start. They expected the next corrupt insider in line for the job, a member of the Clinton mob, to just automatically be anointed the next corrupt leftist dictator. It didn't happen. Instead, a guy who came from the business world, a place where you have to EARN your success instead of stealing it from the American people, won the day to everyone's shock and surprise.

From that day on both Democrats AND establishment Republicans knew that this business as usual, corrupt Washington DC orchestrated decline of America to make it fall in line with the globalist agenda was in serious jeopardy. They knew that Trump was not going to play ball with their corrupt deep state bureaucracy and go along to get along. And to top it off, they became absolutely mortified to find out that he cannot be bought off. He was willing to lose a FORTUNE, to prevent them from "fundamentally transforming" America into a third world communist dictatorship. He was willing to risk it all. CONTINUED...

[RingOfFire]

And he did lose a fortune. He came out of office at least a billion dollars poorer than when he got the job, the only president ever to be poorer when he left office than when he came into office. He came out of office battered and bloody from one deep state assault after another making one false accusation against him after another to try to drive him to surrender. For EIGHT YEARS this assault has continued.

BUT HE NEVER SURRENDERED. They are having SEIZURES and using the judicial system like they are dictators in a banana republic, trying to prevent the leading candidate for president, the PEOPLES' CHOICE from even being on the ballot.

This is what happens in communist dictatorships and swamp republics, NOT IN AMERICA.

I hope that it does not lead to a civil war. But unless people are NOT willing to stand up for what is right, and to let the Democrats take away our democracy, it is hard to see how it can end any other way.

[exitseven]

@RingOfFire I hope for the best but I am preparing for the worst. I have fortified my home last summer with new and heavier doors and lock sets. I even had my bulkhead replaced with one that will be harder to break into. I have been stockpiling food an water and am looking for a way to store a good amount of gas for a generator. I am stockpiling ammo too and maybe lookin for a rifle to go along with my shotgun and handgun.

[msc545]

evidence?

[RingOfFire]

@exitseven

Looking back at history we can never say never. People throughout history who never would have believed that their country would be assaulted by an attempted authoritarian takeover were rudely proven wrong and were unprepared for the assault.

What the Democrats are doing to Trump, the misuse of the judicial system to persecute the leading political opponent is beyond anything that has ever happened in this country before and a classic prelude to an attempted authoritarian power grab. That cannot be denied.

It is the stuff nightmares are made of. I pray for America and a non-violent resolution.

I live in a wealthy community with very little crime. When BLM and Antifa were rioting coast to coast for months on end, some associated group was marching the streets of a nearby street blocking traffic and acting like thugs like the rest of those movements. One night, I heard noises outside in the middle of the night and saw a band of thugs dressed in black with facemasks on coming up the street yelling and tearing down American flags people had near the street outside their gated properties including mine and spray-painting on the gates.

In all the years I lived and grew up here I have never seen anything like it. It was unthinkable. I think it was a real wake up call for a lot of people in the area that I live which was heavily Democrat at that time and has now become predominantly Republican since then.

If the left engages in the same kind of violent massacres it did back then, I am afraid that this time it won't end as well for them. People are not going to take this kind of abuse from the left again. And rightfully so. They will defend themselves this time.

For the sake of everyone I hope that they understand what is at stake this time but don't see any sign that they have learned anything from their ignorant and dangerous behavior of the past.

[msc545]

It's just amazing what the imagination can conjure up based on wishes for even more political power. Enjoy your fantasy.

[msc545]

@exitseven You assert it, you provide the evidence. I am not chasing down the lies.

[RedInnocent68]

More of the same. A complete unwillingness to listen to evidence, respect the rule of law, or think critically and independently. What does that mean in practice? I don’t think we’ll see civil war, but likely political assassinations, which may turn the tide of public opinion.

[Anonymous]

Honestly? Not as bad as I think some might react if he DOES get re-elected. And that includes Trump himself. I mean think about it. Look at all they have done to Trump. You know he'll be looking for retribution of some sort. And if he does get re-elected it will be in some of thier minds an approval of everything they've done thus far. I honestly hope Trump doesn't get elected and his candidacy begins to erode and he fizzles away.

I've said I don't think Trump gets re-elected ever again. But I also said there's no way he gets elected in the first place and America proved me wrong there. So, we'll see.

[lightbulb27]

I know a few hat wearing maga people. They will continue being successful building their business and raising families. They will continue being digusted at the choices made although they like aome of the ither options its unlikely auch choices win.
Most are good people.
They wint burn down anything.

[FunkyMonkee]

Couldn't possibly be as bad as what you lefties have been doing for the past 4 years!!

[Joshydavid25]

Can't be any worse than 2020..

[Anonymous]

I’m more worried about World War III.

[goaded]

Russia's telling school children Trump's lies about the election. Putin's loving it.

[Opinion Owner]

Does Trump frighten you?

[goaded]

The prospect of America as a fascist dictatorship terrifies me, yes.

[Opinion Owner]

Are you afraid he’ll throw you in prison?

[RingOfFire]

"I’m more worried about World War III."

Good reason to be after Biden and the Democrats gutted Trump's unprecedented accomplishment of American national security, diplomatic and military strength and prospects for world peace.

President Trump was the only president in a half century not to get America into any new wars and the only president who successfully negotiated an historic peace deal between Arams and Israelis.

In less than 3 years Biden and the Democrats went from unprecedented peace to getting America into two new wars, to a world on the brink of World War III an NUCLEAR war.

[Opinion Owner]

Who would have ever thought in a million years that the phrase “make America great again,” Would cause the leftists to crawl into the fetal position?

[RingOfFire]

It is because they have been trying desperately for the last few of their presidencies to PREVENT America from being successful. Their goal is to do to America what other communist heroes of theirs have done in other countries... TEAR DOWN AMERICA... DESTROY AMERICA'S ECONOMY... MAKE AMERICA'S MILITARY TOO WEAK TO DEFEND THE COUNTRY... and turn America into a communist dictatorship.

They don't want to make America great... they want to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM AMERICA into a third world dictatorship where a few of these Democrat elites are in control of the people instead of the people being in control of the goverment.

They though they were almost there after this guy... B. Hussein Obama... and that Hillary Clinton was going to finish the job. But Trump got in their way.

https://youtu.be/eUMuYCpXJ0A

[Opinion Owner]

And traditionally, what do the communists do to the useful idiots?

[RingOfFire]

After they are finished using them, you know the drill. The Jews who assisted Hitler thinking he would spare them were the first ones who went into the ovens.

[goaded]

My goodness, read some history books!

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded

So did you watch the video?

[RingOfFire]

RingofFire
"The Jews who assisted Hitler thinking he would spare them were the first ones who went into the ovens."

@goaded
"My goodness, read some history books!"

I'm afraid you are the one who is bereft of a knowledge of history son. You keep proving it over and over again.

"Association of German National Jews

The Association of German National Jews (German: Verband nationaldeutscher Juden), colloquially known as the Jews for Hitler, was a German Jewish organization during the Weimar Republic and the early years of Nazi Germany that eventually came out in support of Adolf Hitler. The organization was founded by Max Naumann, who was sent to a concentration camp after the rise of Hitler."

en.wikipedia.org/.../Association_of_German_National_Jews

[RingOfFire]

As the saying goes, those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.

This describes the Democrats of today to perfection. The challenge is going to be to prevent them from taking the rest of us to hell with them.

By the way the reason so many Democrats are ignorant of history is not accidental. It is an intentional agenda of the left to pervert the minds of students in the school system which they infiltrated with a lack of knowledge of history and a propagandized curriculum to indoctrinate and prepare young people to accept socialism/communism and authoritarian rule. They have created a couple of generations now of useful idiots in the schools by making sure they remain ignorant of the truth. That is exactly why you are seeing things like protests in support of Palestinian terrorism and anti-American self hatred among the brainwashed Democrat masses. It's no accident, it is part of the standard practice of authoritarians when they prepare a society for dictatorial rule. They practically have half of America BEGGING for it at this point. It is going to be very difficult to reverse. We need Trump. He is the only man with a chance of success and these bastards know it. That's why they are using every evil tactic at their disposal to stop him.

[goaded]

@RingOfFire You're talking about communists and Nazis as if they're the same. Once you start with such nonsense, details are unimportant.

Q: " And traditionally, what do the communists do to the useful idiots?"

A: "After they are finished using them, you know the drill. The Jews who assisted Hitler thinking he would spare them were the first ones who went into the ovens."

[RingOfFire]

Communists and Nazis ARE the same in the most important respects. They are totalitarians and use the exact same tactics to take away liberty. They both have used the very same tactics that the Democrats are using to dismantle America and take away American liberty.

[goaded]

@RingOfFire Nonsense. Anyone can see the resurgence of the right matching almost exactly what happened in 1920's and 1930's Germany and Italy. Unlike the communists in Russia and China, who staged bloody revolutions against their governments, the Nazis and Italian Fascists misused the mechanisms of society to take and retain power. Backed by threats of violence from their supporters.

Like I said: pick up a history book.