Do you think that there are Americans that actually want communism in America, or do you think they’re just oblivious of it subtle changes happening?

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D_Bone_Steak · Accepted Answer

They're oblivious to it. They didn't notice Biden making himself rich while he was VP by using his son... and they don't notice it now as he funnels as much money as he can over there yet again. Trump simply asked questions about it and then we got the "Russian collusion hoax" as a result for almost a year thanks to the likes of the "Trusted News Initiative" all spouting the same message at once.

The Normies are oblivious to any of it though... label people like me as "conspiracy theorists" even though I'm fucking right. They'd prefer to call me names before they do any research and find out I'm fucking right and that they can't prove me wrong.

Here is the trick these stupid fucking Normies will use -->"Where is your proof" (I love this one because it's just a google search or a Wikipedia article away. Then when you provide them with it... they will disregard it and just keep calling you names [They won't even read it]). They just want you to do all the work for them because they're retarded, and then, they're too retarded to read it if you do all the work for them.

Normies are oblivious... they can't even define communism. They got tricked into the college scam and have no idea their votes are being bought by promising to alleviate them of that debt... which will be paid for by everyone and make the price of everything worse. They never look at subjects like economics... they just don't like the mean tweets. Retards... the lot of them are just fucking retarded.

Go get your shots retards. They (TNI) told you to.

Surely · Accepted Answer

As I see it. The brainwashed ones that want communism, are the ones that don’t want to get off their butts and actually earn a living. The same ones that figure just because they are using oxygen, their government will support them with food and shelter wherever they want it. How wrong they are!

WhiteSteve · Answer

The word means nothing to me anymore, along with socialism, Marxism, etc, because it just gets thrown around so liberally to describe things that aren’t socialist OR communist. They’re kind of just politically-charged boogeyman words at this point. There’s not a single declared communist or socialist in federal government that I’m aware of, maybe a few “social democrats” like Bernie Sanders, but that doesn’t fall under the umbrella of socialism. No one is calling for the government to take over production of goods and services wholesale, so therefore there is no socialist or communist movement to speak of. Any other issues, particularly social grievances, aren’t really about socialism or communism, they just get bundled with them as something more invasively scary to the voter rather than someone who might just shrug their shoulders and say “government production, privatized production…what’s the difference? I still get the goods in the end.” Some people just tactically label things as communist or socialist to hopefully demonize them to low-effort/low-thought/low-research voters, but those things, if employed, would not necessarily usher in either system.

NamerOfStars · Answer

The TV show Babylon 5 (which is excellent, by the way) at one point had a character (a former member of a high government body) verbally excoriating the members of that body for their inaction while a neighboring power tears itself apart and threatens to descend into a bloodbath of a civil war. Although the episode had been written before casting was done, it's an interesting coincidence that the actress was from Yugoslavia, and had fled as the country was beginning to disintegrate in the wake of Tito's death. Nor was it a case of "I need to get out of here; things are going to get awful"; they already WERE, and she'd received death threats for refusing to stop playing (she was a prominent member of the national theater) in certain cities. When the episode was filmed, the wars and genocides had begun.

Naturally, such a person's experience is going to have SERIOUS impacts on such a scene, and she did; it's one of the more powerful moments in the series (which is saying something), and the episode even won a Hugo (and this was back when that was an unambiguously good and impressive thing).

Babylon 5 is famous for the early deaths of its actors, though; for a while, a higher percentage of the main cast of the original Star Trek was still alive than that of B5, despite being thirty years older, and the actress died in 2021, of West Nile fever. I was saddened to learn that (she was an amazing actress), and read through the last few entries on the blog she'd been sporadically writing, and see her wish that "... instead of Joe and Kamala, it had been Bernie and Alexandra" winning the White House. I guess even seeing your country tear itself apart, your neighbors slaughter each other like vermin, and death threats forcing you from your country can't get the point through to some people.

The real danger doesn't lie in any particular ideology or belief, it lies in the unchecked concentration of too much power into too few hands. What kind of power doesn't really matter, and whose hands they are doesn't really matter, either.

dynamicyandere · Answer

I believe that most of it is just people being oblivious.

Though, I’ve met a few people who where supporters of communism.

But, from what I’ve heard from these people that support communism, it’s always a romanticized version of what communism is supposed to be.

Though, we’ve seen throughout history, what communism tends to create instead.

Sure, it sounds all good and dandy in theory for the government to have all the power and distribute wealth and resources to everyone so that nobody is in need.

But, how has that worked out in practice?

Are there still people in need in Russia, China, North Korea? Definitely.

Often times, communism stops at the point where the government obtains all the power and resources. The second part, the fair distribution of resources to eliminate the suffering of the people? That doesn’t really happen in practice. Not in history at least.

Communism seems to only work in very small communities.

But for large governments? Once the government has that much power, they tend to want to hold onto that power with an iron fist, instead of using that power to truly serve the people.

molonski2 · Answer

Id agree that most from the USA can't even imagine what communism looks like?

I'm with Warren Buffet on this one ( sure its not perfect ) but look at USA over Buffets life time ( 90 odd years ) , then look at parts of Europe , the USA is one massive economic success story , that's just a fact.

Try and order a specialist machine from Italy in holiday season?

I don't think any successful Americans are excited by a communist agenda , and even your left are not that left , but there are a couple of things that need to be fixed , medical and guns.

By the way , where else in the world , could you have a man , worth 100 billion , doing lots of free work with schools etc. 90 years old plus -- And votes for USA left? It just is not that left is the answer.

lightbulb27 · Answer

a good photo to represent what happens. Isn't it stated by the authors of such that it's all a cycle... one turns into the other... just a matter of time.

there are some, I don't think they come out as such but as defenders of the poor and such. Look how Mao got his start! Pol Pot, French Revolution, etc.. It sounds good to the ears as the "rich abuse the poor". That is the case to some extent too and in many places.

in short... we need to ensure the success of the masses of people... or else!

exitseven · Answer

Yes, there is definitely a faction in America that wants to have a more totalitarian government where there is one party rule and elections are a sham. Individual rights are severely compromised and the constitiution isn't even considered a bunch of suggestions.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

Isn't a version of communism this:

Dad brings home the money and the goods for the family. In return he ''has the say''.

Stay-at-home-Mom cooks and cleans for next to for free. The kids shut up when Dad wants his me-time, and they mow the lawn when directed to.

Every now and then they go out, meet others, and celebrate how... conservative, traditional and happy they are as ONE NATION.

Americans have nothing to fear - but themselves :D

BCA6010 · Answer

The overwhelming majority of American communists don't have a clue what communism is, its history, or what it would actually look like, and believe that any criticism of their view is propaganda.

Kaneki05 · Answer

Compared to us and Europe Americans are no where near soclism nvm communism.

First for America to become more like us you have to wait for another gernation at least. When zoomers in america start getting into there 40s things will start to get better.

Dargil · Answer

+1 Good graphic.
Increasingly, starting with Millennials, it has been indoctrinated in primary and higher education. Increasingly more by the year. They want to avoid challenges and want free stuff. The insidious part of Marxism is that they offer and promise free stuff first and then gradually take rights away. That is in process now.

Yabbut · Answer

Oblivious, mostly. They don't understand the cost of all the free stuff they want.

DextroShade · Answer

The woketards are openly pro-communism, not that they understand what living under communism is actually like and their version of it would likely be even worse than Stalin's or Mao's.

AngryCarl · Answer

What's the population of America now? You can bet that a good number are committed Communists, but they're probably outnumbered by QAnon lunatics.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

There are self-hating Americans who are bent to destroy this country and themselves along the way.

JamesRandiDebates · Answer

There are plenty who have been indoctrinated to think communism is the ideal situation.

Amur8711 · Answer

Amongst the younger generations the idea of socialism and communism both have a lot of sentiment.

goaded · Answer

No. I think there are Americans who want fascism in America, because they want someone who says they'll be a dictator to be president.

Avicenna · Answer

Both are in fact the case, unfortunately.

Pterodon · Answer

I think oblivious and apathetic

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