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Is there anyway to discuss race without being called racist?
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Ah, my swole-mate, you want to talk about race without being labeled a racist? Let me chug my pre-workout, inject some tren straight into my heart, and let the gains guide me as I tackle this topic like a powerlifter taking on a lightweight twink.
Bro, talking about race is like trying to bench-press a bar loaded with 500 pounds of pure, unadulterated prejudice. It's heavy, it's dangerous, and it can crush you if you're not careful. But does that mean we avoid the weight room altogether? Hell no! We just need to approach this shit with the right form and a spotter who knows their shit.
Now, some people might call you racist just for bringing up the topic. They're like the bro-science gurus at the gym, spewing misinformation and judging your form without even knowing your damn routine. But don't let those sensitive snowflakes get to you. As long as you're coming from a place of knowledge, understanding, and respect, you can discuss race without being a racist piece of shit.
It's like the difference between a dedicated bodybuilder and a steroid-fueled meathead. We all know the meathead—he's the one grunting loudly, wearing a stringer that says "No Pain, No Gain," and probably hasn't read a book since his mom forced him to back in kindergarten. But the dedicated bodybuilder, now that's a different breed. They study the science, they understand the intricacies of the human body, and they respect the process. That's how we should approach discussions about race—with intelligence, empathy, and a willingness to learn.
Now, some people might try to shut down the conversation. They're like the cardio bunnies who avoid the weight room because they're scared of getting swole. But we can't let their fear hold us back. Discussing race is like embarking on a journey to gain massive quads—it takes effort, dedication, and the ability to push through the pain.
So, my jacked comrade, if you want to talk about race without being called a racist, here's my advice: educate yourself, listen to others, and speak from a place of knowledge and respect. It's like building a solid foundation before attempting a heavy lift—you need to master the basics before you can go for the gold.
And remember, just like in the gym, progress takes time. Don't expect to become a master of racial discourse overnight. Embrace the process, challenge yourself, and always strive for improvement. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go hit some squats and work on my glute-hamstring tie-in. Stay swole in the brain and the brawn, my friend.
Discuss it with people who are CAPABLE of having that discussion. Unfortunately few are.
@DrPepper12 I agree with the first part. But I am, personally, finding people nearly every day that I can discuss things with openly and in public and other people often literally join in the conversation. It is amazing and I have never before experienced anything like this before the past 5-6 years. The rug has been rolled up in this country and the ugliness and filth under the carpet has been exposed. Now, we have no choice but to do something about it, more than just apply bandages to a gushing wound. Maybe Trump has unwittingly done us all a favor after all?
@Caroline91 interesting. Maybe? Crediting that man baby with anything positive is difficult for me tbh. He certainly did expose and encourage the darkest and meanest impulses.
@DrPepper12 Oh please be assured I have given no credit for anything positive to him, thus the word "unwittingly". I'm just saying that rolling back the carpet has made it not only possible but necessary to finally discuss issues around race openly now. And THAT is a good thing to my way of thinking!
@Caroline91 agreed.
hey, im uk and my mother is in her 80s i grew up in a home where there was no religious, homophobic, racist anything... to the point i didn't even realise what these things were until older... but my mother will say, half cast as a description for mixed race, during my time as a teenager it was half cast... so here we have three different definitions, terminology etc... i say to my mum you can't say that now, say mixed race, but you know what i can't 100% call it my parents where no way racist.. in fact to say half cast was the most polite nicest way to describe the race at their time in history... yesterday i saw a newspaper article from the 1960s with animation of faces showing different races from all over the world... driven by the fact that there were many immigrants by this time... i know i have italian, irish and norwegian dna, i am also rhesus negative blood... i think i should be able to chat with you in a room and express myself entirely freely as myself and you, ie another soul, do the same... and we both expand our level, raise our vibration, accept each others view and create a better future view point for us both... weird thought... from my teenage years, a local shop taken over by Asians would be termed a paki shop. the other day i was trying to explain about a shop to a friend, and this thought comes up, i compute i shouldn't say this, i compute well what do i say instead then? im not being racist its just my previous coding on file... so i say it anyways old skool... paki shop... now i can tell you 100 percent people who have moved to my country worked hard work more hours a week than us natives.. put up with racist shit all day long, you have my utter respect... the Asians who run our local shop and chicken shop are Asian origin,,,, in 12yrs of living here they are at the top of the people who are the nicest...
then here judge me? talking with my ex husband about his niece who at 18 has moved out from her alcoholic mothers and moved in with her mixed race 19 yr old boyfriend... my immediate reaction was honestly this,,, omg i can see it coming, he impregnates her, she ends up single mum get a council flat and benefits and he gets a single mum he hits up everytime he needs somewhere to crash
well my ex husband said wooo.. you're being a bit racist aren't you? i said what? because he's b lack? he was like, he's NOT BLACK he's mixed race... the truth is a great deal of single mums in local poverty towns have mixed race children... it seems via online media they are often players... i was concerned about his niece, im still connected to his family... no im totally open to being awakened that is considered racist... rather than race typical...
Nope. My colleague got called a racist couple weeks back because he made a point that all the resumes we’ve received for new hires have been Indian.
Nope. They’re natives to India 😆
Accidentally took the wrong route. That’s why American still aren’t spicing their food correctly.
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Only way you can discuss race without being called racist is if you only say things that are consistent with the far left agenda.
Wrong. Just wrong. That attitude is the problem
@DrPepper12 See! I even allude to race in the most general terms and I am already being told I am the problem.
Yes. When you say useless, misleading tetms like "far left agenda" you have already muddled the conversation, labeled disparate things and insulted the person you wish to have a dialogue with. Thats the problem.
@DrPepper12 There are not people on the far left, or those people do not have an agenda?
Of course! Im addressing that youve made dialogue difficult by your worlding and premises
@DrPepper12 And you haven't, of course, because you never engage in name calling and labelling.
So you believe that the "far left" does not exist? Or you believe that they exist but don't have an agenda? Or will you sidestep giving a direct answer to these question?
@Juxtapose I know.
In my experience it has more to do with how I say something and how sincere I am in saying it. Also, my willingness to adapt my view based on information gained from others that I was unaware of or had not considered.
They exist. They have an agenda. Stop being foolish. Is that direct?
@OddBeMe im not provoked. Im merely pointing out that the wording is accusatory and inhibits dialogue - a error of which i too commit
Now the original statement was you can't have an authentic discussion of race without being racist. Its NOT true
@OlderAndWiser I think maybe the problem here is the use of the term "far left agenda" without specifying what part of that agenda do you believe, particularly, applies here. Could you perhaps be specific as to how it applies to the subject of racism? That would certainly be helpful to me in trying to understand the point you are making.
I discuss religion, politics and race all the time... all of the no-no's because those are the most important things that need to be discussed. If we keep sweeping everything important under the carpet how will anything ever change and get better? I don't even recall the last time I had a negative reaction and have had numerous long, production conversations. I think a lot of it is being truly sincere and willing to really listen to each other and understand different perspectives. But, then, I actually don't believe there are different races. There's the human race and, within the human race, there are many variations of eye/skin/hair colors body sizes/shapes, etc. There are also different cultural differences/backgrounds, all of which make a more colorful and interesting world. But then, I come from a mixed "race" and cultural family.
Very well said @Caroline91.
One side of the aisle is more at fault for this predicament then the other.
When you got the NYT firing a star journalist who fire for saying the n word was wrong (just because he said the n word in a complete academic context the words usage is wrong) then you got a serious problem on your hands.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/02/12/donald-mcneil-new-york-times-fallout/
The fact of the matter is, yes you can.
Talking about ‘The Trail of Tears’, ‘Jim Crow’, ‘American Japanese Internment Camps’, ‘American Reeducation Camps’, and modern day hate crimes / police brutality that marginally affects certain groups than others in this country isn’t racist for bringing it to light, what is racist is to downplay / deflect the historical impact and the historical significance / spread misinformation in regards to these too.
If it were racist, every historian & history teacher would be out of the job. We must teach these things to learn from them, reflect from them, to make sure we don’t make the same mistakes again / to see fellow human beings as less than other human beings. It is important, no question about it.
@MisterWack He strikes AGAIN! Sigh...
@Caroline91
Why the sigh?
@MisterWack At your insight and the way you express it... I feel a kind of happy when anyone comes across in that manner.
@Caroline91
Well thank you, I thought I did something wrong with the “sigh” lol. That is how I naturally express and explain, so thank you deeply!
@MisterWack One can sign for happy, too... lol
@Caroline91
You right, you right. Just not good at social cues I guess. Personal problem, don’t let me stop ya.
@MisterWack Well, no sound or visual is probably the main problem lol... YOU are a delight! Sigh...
@Caroline91 Yeah however even with visual/auditory cues I suck. YOU are a delight too! Sigh indeed xD
@MisterWack I am overcome by such mutual admiration! I am struggling not to overstep the bounds... Must find wormhole, NOW!
Skin color is nothing more than evolutionary advantage given to a people to allow them to survive varying temperatures. Melanin, the chemical that determines skin color, hair color and eye color, increased in amounts for black and brown skinned people due to them having lived predominantly in hotter regions of the world. This advantage made it so they would not get as hot from the sun as say a white person and in turn they would release heat slower at night when temperatures plummeted. For white people we have a far lower concentration of melanin due to having lived predominantly in temperant regions of the world. This is purely factual and as such can not have influence from emotion or bias. Thus making it impossible to be "racist"
It is part of the definition of racist and racism. Someone who classifies humans into different races and deems some of these "races" less or more worthy than others.
But that's exactly what needs to be discussed. The fact that humans HAVE been classified into different races and how to undo that in a realistic way.
@Caroline91 it was a useful construct for colonial imperialism but is meaningless now.
@DrPepper12 In a historical sense, yes. Moral and ethical never.
@DrPepper12 It is not meaningless now.
@Juxtapose it is relevant. Like nationality.
@Juxtapose it is part of my identity.
@Juxtapose Race is like colours. It is spectrum, but you can distinguish blue, red, yellow cars. Of course it exists. These phenotypes developed through thousands of year of evolution. They bind people, who originate from same location, when people did not travel. Variety of races is beautiful and to mix them is to destroy them. Like mixing all fruits into one. I am not interested in it. I want strawberries, bananas, apples as unique different creations.
@_piotr what are you going to do? Stop a white guy from going to Thailand, falling in love and having a kid?
The world where everybody is separate from each other is gone. If you want to preserve specific aesthetics, you should look into designer babies for the future and help facilitate that for the common man and woman.
There are, actually! I've had a number of lovely afternoons at black family cook outs in South Philly where the subject comes up (I am quite white) and the conversations and been very amicable and I feel some very healthy progress was made.
Those are very painful and difficult conversations to have though.
That depends, the one guy that said he was going to write about the characteristics of different races, we'll I told him that sounded racist an d I stick by that. If you want to talk about improving interracial relations, I think that can be done without being racist.
No. Some troll will always be happy to hammer that out if for no other reason than because they noticed it wasn't part of the conversation yet. The far right knows if everything is called racist it will train people to ignore it when racism is called racist.
What would you like to discuss about race that wouldn't end up going to racism? I imagine the only way to accomplish that would be to have a strictly factual, emotionless, non-biased, non-prejudicial exchange, and I can't see that ever happening.
Race is a 17th century pseudo-scientific theory to define humans by physical appearance. It is a defunct concept yet a widely followed construct. It is a convenient way to divide people into tribes that are easier to control by the political overseer class. There is one race, Homo Sapiens.
You can discuss anything without being offensive, you just have to be particular about it
It's about how or why you are approaching the subject.
You can say the most benign thing possible such as "orange soda tastes good" to a large enough audience and somebody is going to call that racist.
Who cares if somebody views you as racist? They're probably some woke idiot.
Yes, be mindful of your words and the terms you use.
Na Nigga, we can't comment on these bloody Dews, Psyco Poms or Pirate Somalins
(Disclaimer: this is for entertainment purposes only. No harm intended)
There we go!
I'd be more afraid of being called a boring dumbass.
why care? if you're not being racist, let the snowflakes have their meltdown. it doesn't matter. don't let a civil discourse be disturbed by babies who never came out of their safe space.
Racism, is judging someone, based on the color of their skin. As long as you're not literally judging someone, based on the color of their skin, you should be ok
yeah the only way possible is not to discuss anything that relates to race, nationality, ethnicity, or skin color with someone you know is not a democrat
Not with truthful discussions, Truth = racism these days, Pandering to non whites with flattering lies is the only way you could discuss race without being called racist.
no, don;t be such a racist asking these questions.
Not if you are white, but the people who would call you a racist aren't worth talking to anyway.
What was it about race that you wanted to discuss?
Why discuss something that doesn't exist? I only recognize skin tone and nationality. Others can call me any "name" they want, but I intelligently don't allow "names" to ever bother me.
that'll depend on how easily offended people are
It’s very difficult the race card always comes up
Yes, if it's done in a way to heighten racial comity rather than racial animus.
In this political climate, highly unlikely.
Yes. Like most thing, interested, respectful, and not judgy.
You cannot answer any question from anybody about anything without being called a racist.
Depends on who you debate with. Some people are just impossible with that discussion.
Not with people who are primed to interpret everything in the worst possible manner.
Not really, no. You cannot discuss or research race in any way without being trashed for it.
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Of course, but only if there isn't anyone like you involved in the conversation.
Lol. I don't care about anything a person that says racist thinks.
Yes, first step is to stop labeling everything as racist.
Yes, that’s what critical race theory is for
To facilitate a discussion if the paradigm of built in racism? Absolutely!!
@OddBeMe Here's something interesting on that www.scientificamerican.com/.../
@Caroline91 yeah, I wasn’t saying they were equal. Just meant crt could discuss it. The ratio is skewed as always toward minorities.
Sure, if you go full bitch and lick peoples asses.
Not necessary i assure you
Not if you’re discussing anything with a leftist.
Liberals believe in individual freedoms. You shitlibs believe in some quasi commie authoritarian bullshit.
Is there some kind of leftist soectrum you could drop some knowledge here
@DrPepper12 look at your entire belief system. Look at the shit show being run by Biden.
@Juxtapose you’re an example of a retard who watches Alex jones.
@gorydetails if there’s a “leftist”…what’s a “rightist”?
There’s no such thing as a ‘rightist’.
That's what they are. Republicans that act like you faggoty leftists.
Lmao. Quit trying to make it happen. It’s not going to happen.
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In any other nation dems would be center-right and Republicans would be extreme right. Hell the greens or libertarians would be center right in other nations!
@DrPepper12 no.. you're talking about Germany, Norway, etc. A lot of ex-commie countries hate Marxism.
@Juxtapose is that English? 🤔
@DrPepper12 political parties can have “right” and “leftists”. If we get into policy, Obama was quite “rightist”
@DrPepper12 learn to read.
It solely depends on what's said about it.
Not without social economics.
Yes! In my house and behind closed doors :D
Some people call cabbage rolls racist so...
Most educated people do it every day.
If you’re white then no.
In america, no.
no you racist mf!
tell me this! why are black runners always winning races?
No. Homer knows 🤓
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