Does anyone even know what "feminism" means?

[Shrimpenjoyer]

Like men think it's about women overpowering men, women think it's about them having benefits but not obligations, who actually knows it stands for equal rights and duties?

[sage2021]

These days women make it up as they go along.
I don't believe that they even know what exactly it is the they are making a new fuss about every week.

[Shrimpenjoyer]

I see lots of these "feminist" women complain about having to pay the bill 🤣
They want all the privileges but none of the responsibilities.

[sage2021]

@Shrimpenjoyer

See, that's what I'm talking about.
They should just print out a manual of everything they want and don't want and get it published so everyone will know. Kinda like a User's Manual.😂😂

[Shrimpenjoyer]

I think they should just call themselves for what they are, opportunists.

[Snakeyes7]

They say they want to be equal to men, but they will never define where men exactly are because that puts the kibosh on their power the moment they establish and reach their ultimate goal.

It's why women still think they are oppressed even though they would all be starving and they wouldn't have the power to ruin a man's life with false accusations and no fault divorce.

They also have access to firearms which makes up for the strength of the men they keep claiming are attacking and raping them but they would rather ban any means of self defense than learn how. They need to keep the fear mongering going and if they have to sacrifice women to do it, they will.

[Theunfadeable]

How is it about equality? All I see is women panhandling for even more entitlements and preferential treatment from the very patriarchy they claim to want to destroy. We’re forced to listen to these insufferable rants about being storm and independent from the same women who complain that men don’t want to treat them like princess. Anytime they’re held to equal standards they call it abuse and misogyny 🤣Feminism is an absolute fucking joke😆

[Shrimpenjoyer]

You didn't read what I said in the description.
I said to women feminism is all rights and no obligations, and true feminism is about equality

[Taurus_Woman]

Yes, people do, but it’s often misunderstood or used in very different ways depending on context.

Feminism is, at its core, the belief in equality of rights, opportunities, and treatment between women and men. It focuses on removing unfair disadvantages based on gender.

Some people think feminism means “women are superior,” but that’s a misunderstanding of the term.

[MrOracle]

Feminism was NEVER about equality, and the idea that it ever was needs to stop being repeated.

There is a word for equality between sexes - it's called Egalitarianism. That word existed before the word Feminism. Feminists NEVER wanted Egalitarianism, which is why they didn't use that word. If Feminists were fighting for equality (i. e., if they were egalitarian), they would at times be forced to fight for men's rights when it was clear that men were at a disadvantage, just as they would fight for women's rights when it was clear that women were at a disadvantage. Feminists from the very beginning were absolutely against that - they always intended to advocate ONLY for women and never for men. That is NOT advocating for equality. DO NOT BE FOOLED.

Here's another point: women don't really care about OTHER women's rights and privileges to any significant degree - only their own and perhaps their close friends. Women effectively achieved social equality in the 1970s in western society, but did they stop pushing for more? No. Did they turn their energies to fighting for women in parts of the world where they were not equal? No. Instead, they continued to advocate for more and more female privilege and to put more and more blame for everything onto men, and to indoctrinate women into never, ever doing anything for a man despite her long and always-growing list of demands and requirements from men.

Feminism is, AND ALWAYS WAS, a female superiority movement. You can read the very words from the leaders of Feminism going back to the original suffragettes back in the late 1800s to the women of the 1920s to the 1960s, the 1990s, and to today. Their own words make it as clear as could be that the core of Feminism was never equality. It was always, from the very beginning, about man-hating, anti-relationship, anti-family, anti-marriage, pro-career, pro-promiscuity, and pro-female privilege.

It's insulting to say that Feminism is about equality. Yes, it's the public-facing rhetoric, but it takes very little work to look even a bit below the surface. And who led the movement from the beginning? Wealthy elite ultra-privileged women with political connections, most in NYC and DC, and they freely used their broad influence to push their agenda. The former long-time writer for Cosmopolitan magazine Sue Ellen Browder admitted that the main focus of the magazine was to push the Feminist agenda and to make it seem glamorous, and that they routinely made up stories and "research" and statistics to fit their agenda because no one was ever going to check their work because it was what they wanted to believe. Editor in chief Helen Gurley Brown (from 1965-1997), who was in the inner circle of Feminist leaders, used the magazine as a propaganda arm for Feminism and in particular to push women into embracing a career-first, promiscuous, big-city lifestyle - essentially what the show Sex And The City would depict a few decades later. Writers were instructed to make up whatever was necessary to push this agenda and to depict it not just happening in NYC but to specifically spread the idea that it was a national and international phenomenon.

A lot of this was also supported by a handful of ultra-wealthy men who wanted to get women into the workforce in order to both suppress wages and to increase Federal tax income so that there would be more and larger, more lucrative government contracts for them to profit from. These men, numbering less than a dozen, certainly did not represent the wishes or values of the vast majority of men, but their wealth and connection gave them massive influence that normal men lacked.

[BCRanger10]

Supporters will say it's about "equality".

The truth though is that no matter how you slice it, a core element of feminism has always - ALWAYS - been enmity towards men, regardless of whether that enmity is expressed through outright hatred, envy, or even just resentment. In the eyes of feminism, men and women ought to be competitors. Feminism looks at the roles and responsibilities that men have and says "why don't women have that?"

But BCR, isn't that a good thing? No, not at all, because it's been to the rejection of the roles and responsibilities that women have in the world. Over the years, I've said time and time and time and time and time again that men and women each have their unique gifts, talents, and abilities, their unique roles and responsibilities, and their flaws, shortcomings, and weaknesses. Men and women need each other. Men and women ought to be using their gifts and talents to help and serve each other and to correct their respective faults. Feminism looks at that and says "no, I want to do what a man does."

True "equality" comes from men pursuing and embracing their masculinity and women fully pursuing and embracing their femininity. If anything, feminism has done completely the opposite of what feminists claim they want.

[Anonymous]

I think we’ve gotten to a point of propping up women more than men. They gotten their equality and then some. Technology and smart phones have both exaggerated their feminine “pull” to unmanageable levels.

And is equality even the answer, when the genders are fundamentally different? Traditionally men have always worked to support and protect women, so that they didn’t have to work, which sounds like a pretty good deal to me. They want a man to lead, but then they want to go out and compete.

If you really break it all down all feminism seems to be is allowing greater exposure for women to have more sexual partners, casual relationships, and open up the likelihood for them to cheat. It’s enabled them to make adult content online, with little to no pushback, otherwise it’s “toxic masculinity”… And at the very least, without that element of controversy, it doubled the tax base. Then, in parallel, it’s cut men’s opportunities and ability to make money roughly in two (which is an important thing for women to find in a man, a man that makes enough/more money than she does to support a family). “Where have all the good men gone?” They’ve been pushed out of the race almost entirely, in multiple ways.

We’ve seen the damages of this has all had on modern society. We can’t have it both ways. I’m not trying to tell women how to be, or that you shouldn’t work, or shouldn’t be able to date how and whoever you want, but this has really led to a degradation of our society in a lot of ways, unintended or otherwise. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just reporting facts.

That’s the big issue now, how do you give women all of this pull in society, social media, etc., and then challenge it, or roll it back? I don’t know the answer to that.

[Bella71205]

Modern feminism has lost its original purpose. Like many movements, it has gone too far. Today, there are very few things men can do that women cannot, making the "movement" irrelevant. Personally, I don’t agree with many aspects of modern feminism, especially when it comes to how it frames women’s roles.
I believe women should have the genuine option to stay home and raise their children if they choose. However, as more women entered the workforce, it contributed to economic changes that now make dual incomes almost necessary for many families. As a result, staying home is no longer a realistic option for many women, and those who want to often feel judged or discouraged from doing so.

[Lesbologist]

An endless battle of bullshit that will never end... it just got a fancy title, got hijacked by politics, race wars and even fat people looking for privileges they didn't earn... shit, men feed off it with the trans shit now.

Look, it doesn't really stand for shit anymore. The people that take up the mantle will bitch at you for saying something is gay in one moment ant then call you a fag as an insult. It's just virtue signaling posturing at best... much worse at it's worst.

If they can't name a right I have that they don't... they just don't know when to STFU.

[Chazmatazz269]

Feminism has literally never been about equality.
At no time in history has any prominent feminist or feminist organization fought for men to share women’s rights and privileges. At no time in history has any prominent feminist or feminist organization fought for women to share men’s sacrifices and responsibilities. Equality is not cherry picking all the rights and privileges while dodging many of the sacrifices and responsibilities.
Feminism is a supremacy movement disguised as a civil rights struggle and it always has been. Nothing more and nothing less.
A movement is defined by the actions of its supporters, not the empty rhetoric and propaganda they use to con people into supporting them.

[integrale77]

It's about women whating to be treated on a level playing field as men same jobs same pay etc... unless it doesn't suit them eg splitting the bill, doing a dirty job like working on an oil rig etc.

No trouble personally with women giving it a go and prove they are better than just staying home making babies but you can't come at us men with a "I want all or nothing attitude" then hold back when something doesn't suite them!

[RingOfFire]

"Does anyone even know what ", feminism" means?"

It means that after 200,000+ years of modern humans fulfilling their natural male and female gender roles, that nature and evolution physiological designed each of them differently for over millions of years, that women are FINALLY no longer only constrained to do the cooking, cleaning, bearing children and raising them, but they also now need to go out and get a job just like the men. Congratulations to women for this monumental achievement. Enjoy!

[MannMitAntworten]

I thought feminism was about destroying all men’s spaces because women’s spaces are boring? I mean, feminism always reminded me of the kid crying to their teacher because the other kids didn’t want to play with them in the sandbox. So, the teacher forces the other kids to include this kid which essentially shits on everything for everyone else. But at least the one kids is happy as they got their way even if everyone else is now frustrated and miserable.


Problem solving through the subjugation of others.

[beenherebefore]

Modern feminism has nothing to do with how feminism started and the things women were advocating for. The first wave was all about women's rights to vote and the right to education nowadays is a sh*t show and I do not relate to that type of feminism at all. I feel like modern day feminism is very degrading and I don't see modern day feminists as an example to follow.

[Anonymous]

Today's feminism is what happens when a movement has achieved all of its goals a long time ago, so it needs to continually reinvent itself to remain relevant. In the case of feminism, that means inventing "injustices" and working very hard to keep young, naive women angry and feeling like victims.

To your question, feminism has never been about equal rights. It has always been about advocating for women's interests with zero regard for men's. That's not equality at all.

[Shrimpenjoyer]

I really can't stand these ho3s who call themselves "feminists" but complain about sharing the bill

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

No, I don't think there is a strong enough consensus, worldwide, about what feminism (s) are.

Partially because there's a global information war waged that damages the consensus that could be.

Partially because countries and cultures, worldwide, are much too different from one another to sit and agree about feminism.

Partially because feminism is not unified, the feminism (s) are traversed by different trends, clashes and philosophies within the movement.

[RavVid]

Yes it means Marxism.

Marxism just requires you to identify an oppressed class, which almost immediately defines an oppressing class.

Swap out the proletariat with women and bourgeoisie with men as the oppressing class and you good to go.

Works for nearly everything and the oppressing class is nearly always white hetero males.

[SolitarySolace]

The original textbook definition is completely lost today. While the movement still claims to be about equal rights, that word is just a shield used to hide a far-left, female-supremacist agenda. The modern movement operates entirely on a double standard—pushing for female privilege without shared accountability, while actively working to dismantle traditional fatherhood, motherhood, and the family structure.

[genericname85]

feminism has no meaning. it's not like the socialist manifesto, where the originator has written down the definitions. it's a completely unregulated movement where everyones opinion is as "correct" as the next persons. i personally don't give a fuck about that movement cause it's not about equality.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That term is actually very fluid that it's reinterpreted so manytimes, even by feminists themselves who can't agree on what it should be. But they all have that one thing in common like believing the world is giving men advantages that's why feminism should exist, while simultaneously contradicting themselves saying "they care about men too". In the end, they care more about the label than equality itself.

[Mark_Est]

Modern feminism is about having a power of a rich pwerful white man but the accountability of a toddler.

[strateguy632]

its name: ism= the idea+ femin =to raise female. never about equal. equal is called egalitarian.

[Shrimpenjoyer]

Originally it was about equality, they made it all about privileges

[cranberrycattoystory]

A way for young women and girls to vent their own personal emotions, insecurities, and feelings onto this social ideology, that benefits them when arguing for the concept. Practically, put into use, it's figuring out their own social roles and norms, and physiological differences from the "other gender". To a boy or man, absolutely nothing! Because I do not have the experience of "being female", I literally have no clue what being a girl is like at all.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Feminism isn't about equal rights and duties because men and women can't, don't and will never have the same rights and duties.

Only women can get pregnant, so in order for society to continue, it is women's duty to get pregnant.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Lol, pregnancy isn't a duty, surely you don't live in a location forcing women to get pregnant. It's an option instead.

Also, in what way equal rights look intrinsically impossible to you?

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

@Maybe_Maybe_not how is not a duty? What happens if every woman on the planet stops using their right of choice and decides to quit getting pregnant?

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

This is not how humanity works, we're no hive mind, no woman feels any duty to perpetuate human race, absolutely no one cares about human race when they make babies. They make babies for themselves. And, as a result, it perpetuates human race, just because many people on earth are enjoying the idea of having babies, for selfish reasons, absolutely not for the collective.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

I'd be willing to bet the majority of women do feel obligated to get pregnant. Of course they have right not to.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

There's no way we have to get the definitive answer about that, what I can reasonably assume is this biological clock that seems to tick for a lot of people. And maybe that would be one biological conditioning to want babies yes

[alice55]

Equal right yes but no equal duties where did you find equal duties? I searched and found nothing about equal duties?

[RavVid]

Equality was what was campaigned for. Which means equal rights to men and also equal duties as for men too. If not equal right & equal duties than it is not equality.

[alice55]

@RavVid in the definition maybe but it was never ever talked about though?

[RavVid]

Possibly down sides were not mentioned. But equal duties are a consequence of equality because to say you shouldn't have to do duty X because you are a girl is also saying you are not inherently equal.

[exitseven]

I have stopped trying to keep up with any of this.

[Shrimpenjoyer]

To give you a quick summary.
Most of these women who call themselves "feminist" want to have the cake and eat it too.
They only want the privileges of feminism but true equality

[Shrimpenjoyer]

*not true equality

[LiamJHayden]

Which brand? There is equality under the law feminism, which is just. There is Clementine Ford "Kill All Men!" Feminism which is tyranny. And there are degrees in between.

[Dargil]

It's a word like weather. It can mean anything you want.

[Anonymous]

I know exactly what the dictionary definition is white knight, but modern feminism is about the destruction of the family and being superior to men. End of story.

[MrChinaski]

It makes me laugh that it is predominantly men answering.

[Manuelwe]

Yes
Men do the washing in cold water
While she is having sex with herself

[Anonymous]

Equality isn't special treatment

[Shrimpenjoyer]

You don't actually want equality

[Wodens_Apprentice]

And that's exactly what one particular sex gets all the time

[Opinion Owner]

@Wodens_Apprentice every woman is someone man's daughter, mother, sister, niece, aunt, cousin, wife, girlfriend etc. Thats why many if not most women reject feminism

[Wodens_Apprentice]

Well I don't know if my feminist sister who thinks women are oppressed realises her brother is in the verge of ending it because he has nothing & has been shamed by jealous people his entire life just for being taller then other people. And no woman wants him because he's autistic and has the "toxic masculinity" traits without the low IQ that women seem to find attractive.

[Opinion Owner]

@Wodens_Apprentice and do you have sexual feelings towards your sister?

[Wodens_Apprentice]

No that's be very very weird. I feel like my suffering is invisible because she's had friends, lost her virginity etc and puts up with nothing close to what the average gen Z male has to.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Depends on the person.

[Mike_Hum]

feminism is cancer.