The Rooney rule basically is a rule among the nfl saying you have to hire a black coach for every certain amount of coaches. Now, there is some arguments to be made from both sides which is that if the nfl’s players are majority black then it’s only right that the coaches also be black. That’s the most simple way I could put how the nfl and nba organizations see things from their point of view.
The other side of the argument is what about other minorities that also like the sport? What if there’s a really great Asian coach then should he get hired if he deserves that spot? Well, I think he should.
This is actually not the first time I’ve ever seen Asians get discriminated against inside the United States. The first time I saw something like this was about a student who had perfect sat scores and a 4.5 GPA but Harvard, Yale, Stanford and all of his top Ivy League schools he applied to rejected him for being Asian.
What is your opinion about how the NBA and NFL incorporate “diversity”?
It might be tough to research on Google because of censorship, but you should research the history of Asian and Black American relationships. There's a long history of the two races not getting along, but the media won't cover anything unless it's whites vs minorities.
So what’s your solution to solve this problem, or you just want to turn the story back to discriminate White descendants, first?
Second, what’s the shit about Black and Asian relationship? Tell me. Because I know Asian country like Japan, even China shit in a moment, half Asia like Russia has been a threat to the White countries. Should I say it’s White vs minority? What’s a minority when Asia’s population higher than America + Europe (where probably include other races?) And if in case of you want to say White abuse Asia workers, so who is supporting that? Not White are trying to change for better, not the “superior” White, but those are White like to distribute an idea about diversity and socialism/actual communism bringing factories to Asian countries to empower their government and exploit the cheap workers in there. And sequently, they can do that because various races, not only White, support for that action before being torn years ago. One more thing, did White take a shit territories in Asia? Because I know IN HISTORY, the Mongolia used to conquer part of Europe before their empire was crashed. So what part of history do you want to mention, John? Or Should I say you want to hide it and just want to discriminate White personally? Therefore, stfu @John_Doesnt and embrace your “communism bible” as I said to you before, your Karl Marx’s idolizing alone.
Just run away John. You are the same as some people I know, who like to point something and then when people argue about that, you take some fallacy and run away. It’s the second time you do that so there is nothing new. I know some old man in here, not only in here but a lot in different platforms, write a problem and is able to read things and discuss on it regardless how much it is as well as that’s clue comment. I am 90% sure you are not over 45 years old, or it could be just another lazy crazy old man if you were. I tried to write in my most polite to argue with someone like you and you just disappoint me again, clueless and fallacy.
And of course, you ARE not DELETING your comments in your post, I don’t know how but you do, not only me know about that, but what you have done in this gag some people know for sure.
Eugene Chung! I wore #69 in Pop Warner the year the Patriots drafted him, he was a Guard out of Virginia Tech. I didn’t know the whole “69” thing yet either, so my coaches smirked when I requested the number, and asked why I wanted it. I told them “Eugene Chung”, innocently, and it would probably be another year or so before I understood why that was met with such uproarious laughter😂😂😂 Turned out he sucked as a player, or at least wasn’t worth the first-round draft pick, lmao, but whatever.
Anyway, good to see him still working in the League. One thing about The Rooney Rule, though, it’s not specific to black coaching prospects, it’s broadly about minorities and women. At least one minority or woman must be interviewed for a coaching position, but they don’t have to be black. So Eugene Chung or any other Asian coaching candidate fits the bill.
If he was told he was the “wrong” minority, then that’s really bad. I don’t think that would be in relation to the rule itself, but more so about public optics, the expectation that a Rooney Rule hire should be a black man, since black PLAYERS comprise a good 70% of the League, at least. And I get that, too, that’s kind of the inspiration for the rule in the first place, that obvious demographic disparity between the player populations and coaching populations. Asians probably get de-prioritized because they don’t face the same employment discrimination that black folks generally do in America, in “everyday” industries, outside of professional sports. Or that’s the perception, anyway. I’m sure we can find all kinds of examples in all kinds of fields of demographic discrimination for just about anyone. The NFL just happens to be watched by (allegedly) 70-some% of the country’s citizens, so people are looking at it more closely and it gets a spotlight on it. We could be complaining that there aren’t enough sumo wrestlers of Middle-Eastern descent and that the Japanese have an unfair monopoly on the sport…. but not enough people give a shit about that sport in America, so no one notices or cares.
Your point is well-taken, though. Asians get some raw deals from white folks in this country like anyone else, and it does go under the radar more than it should relative to struggles other groups face.
@Jamie05rhs Oh, is he out now? Thought he still had his positional coach job. Maybe he was out when Sirianni came in to replace Dennis Pederson, probably just brought in his own coaching staff. That’s my bad then.
Unbelievable that this team actually said “you’re not the right minority” TO him, though. Feels like they said the quiet part out loud, haha. Hope he can catch on somewhere else eventually.
@Agagagagaga JFC, dude…. relax. Internet Caucasian Defense Team captain over here😂😂😂 White people are going to be just fine, so I’m gonna need you to take your level down to about a 3, you’re like a fucking 47 right now.
Why is it so important to you to make sure that black people are getting blamed, bro? No one was even talking about black people. Black people could be ritually sacrificing Asians, it still wouldn’t make what I said untrue. They aren’t mutually exclusive. I specify white people because they have the most ability to affect minorities’ social experiences just due to white people being the majority and for the most part running shit in America. I’m aware that some Asians were randomly assaulted and the assailants were often black. It’s disgusting, fuck those people. But they just didn’t happen to be part of this conversation, so untangle your nuts and settle the fuck down.
@WhiteSteve His contract with the Eagles expired in 2019. Then he tried to get another coaching job in 2021. He applied and interviewed. But they rejected him.
@Vegasrunner fucktard. He was the one acting like Whitey was keeping Asians down. When there are numerous NUMEROUS videos of Asian people getting the shit stomped out of them by Black people.
BUT THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN 🙄🙄🙄
And if it does it’s definitely not RaCiST! 🙄 No sir!
@WhiteSteve You have a point there about sumo wrestling, but Sumo Wrestling originates in Japan while Football and Basketball originate in the west with whites. Blacks have stolen the sports from whites, which is okay because after all, blacks are more athletic than whites. However, blacks need to respect those whites that created those sports. And even if whites didn’t create the sports, they’ve created good economies that allow the blacks to become successful.
Anything about a person that's considered for a professional, athletic, collegiate, and/or scholastic position/job/career other than MERIT is completely and thoroughly wrong.
If it's wrong to discriminate on the basis of race, then it's WRONG to discriminate on the basis of race. Why do so many people struggle with this idea?
If you REALLY want to ensure you're being fair, then do race- (and gender-, for that matter) blind hiring. Just give the applicants a number, and interact without seeing or hearing them. Problem solved.
As it stands, this just looks like pure political pandering. Want to convince me that you REALLY want "diversity"? Implement the same racial policy for PLAYERS. Every so many players you have, one of them needs to be Japanese. Or Eskimo. If meritocracy is really so objectionable, then get up and fight it like you MEAN it.
Anytime you're dealing with fraternal organizations like the NBA, NFL, police departments, the intelligence community, etc.; you're going to deal with a huge amount of nepotism for the lucreative jobs and the outside people trying to get into the cool kids club without having the social connections to just slide right in. Coaches aren't like players who are solely hired on the basis of merit; you can "know a guy" and get a job working support staff for a professional sports team. Unfortunately, many times the black people aren't going to have those same social connections that the whites will.
To that end, I think hiring quotas like that make a lot of sense because it forces the teams to widen their talent search,
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It strikes me as super pointless in these settings especially. Why? Because in ULTRA-competitive environments like professional sports you have uniformity of purpose which basically means you'll do whatever it takes and hire whomever you can so long as it helps you win. If you're using ANYTHING for a selection criteria OTHER than "who will make us a champion?" you will not succeed and you WILL be fired. So is there REALLY some grand incentive for people to be racist here? Does this REALLY need some policy to fix? Or is it a bullshit non-problem searching for a bullshit interventionist "solution?"
Not being a fan of the NBA or NFL, I don't care, but logic would dictate that the best person for the job, deemed as so by those employing them, would be the best candidate for the job.
If those doing the hiring fail to overlook certain qualities or failings in their potential candidates, that's their prerogative, also possibly affecting their chances of success or failure.
This is getting annoying Quit with the race post nobody gives a shit what you look like I’m white you may be black big deal your skin is better at handling Sunlight than mine and that’s great I’m white because my ancestors lived where there wasn’t much sun and it was freezing so Grow the fuck up and quit being Immature about skin color and know Your origins and be proud of it.
Anything that unironically talks about "diversity and inclusion" is automatically not worth taking seriously anymore. American sports have been dying for a while now, anyway.
I think everyone would be happier if people stopped trying to make diversity quota's and instead hired based on talent, skill or work ethic rather then the colour of your skin.
Anything about a person that's considered for a professional, athletic, collegiate, and/or scholastic position/job/career other than MERIT is completely and thoroughly wrong.
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