When you go, you will see the state of the country, be careful, they cause a lot of trouble for tourists there.
I was warned before by some friends/relatives and I know there is some risk. When I travel abroad, I usually travel with a group, re: tour bus or like that. I will try to make as much pre travel planning as I can with regard to safety. Istanbul is a huge city and am anxious to go. BTY, I am planning on seeing Cairo, Istanbul, Dubai, and Athens.
Is Turkey advanced? Really? Turkey does not produce anything on its own. We don't even produce a motorcycle in the country. We get stuffs from China and put those things together in turkey and sell them under the name of turkish brands
@Vivaldi well, considering how other countries around are getting things done, actually Turkey isn't that bad.Unfortunately what you say about China is true even for much more advanced (and richer) countries so that on it's own doesn't tell me too much.
Turkey is not a country which produces things. Metros in Turkey are made by Hyundai, for instance.
Metros, Tramways, Tanks, a lot of things in Turkey are made by Hyundai.
@Vivaldi so whatProbably it'll have them in future.Clothing industry produces things in Turkey for instance. Also copper pottery, kitchen utensils. Food inductry, beverage industry, spices, pieces for furniture. I know this all.
Food, drinks, clothes, these are simple things. People had them before industrial revolution.Cars are being made since late 19th century and Turkey does not make a car in 2021.Motorcycles which are sold under turkish brands are completely china made. We take pieces from china and get pieces together in Turkey
@Vivaldi irrelevant, I don't know why do you focus on your Chinese motorcycles. There are tiny but prospering nations, so tiny that they don't produce ANYTHING. so what? If doesn't mean they are backwards.
Turkey does not produce technology related things. As you said food, drinks, clothes, etc.We can't even make a car or a motorcycle in 2021. You understand my point wery vell
@Vivaldi I do but you don't understand mine. Let's look at prosperous Luxemburg. Or Singapore. Which world brand ever came from there? Tiny pieces of land. No even place to put industry on, they struggle with housing providing. But - extremely wealthy & successful countries. If they wanted to, they could sponsor or take part an advance science project. Just, they don't care. Their huge income comes whole from tertiary sector, services, banks, tourism. You have typical attitude of nafional self hatred charachterictic for Balkan & Eastern Slavic nations. We all think like that at times. But it's stupid, really. Example, I come from Croatia. We produce the electric car with best motor/battery on the world. It speaks volumes that Elon Musk went on to show off his "new" motor and car that is weaker than ours, and they were both presented within two weeks. Croatian company is Rimac and is now a seriously a big player in the world. So what? 😂 That now means Croatia is advanced? No. Sadly, not even a little. Turkey is more advanced, especially economically wise. And for your attitude of self-hatred? Seriously, everything will be fine with time. Like I've said, I think Turkey doesn't need this space program and it's kinda lame and just seeks recognition in the world for its own national ego. But we can't say life in Turkey is low mud lifestyle. It's quite a normal country and actually, does some things more progressively than some countries that are in the EU. I understand you hate your own country because you would like to see more of it, but in the same time, isn't space program "something more"? It's only going to be bad if that spaceshuttle fails and explodes. But hey, that also happened to NASA before. It also might work and then you might be proud...
by the way if Turkey primarily imports hyundai things, that's surprisingly well. Why do you keep saying Chinese and keep quoting Hyundai. You're aware Hyundai isn't Chinese, right? Hyundai is brand of quality from Korea. We produce mobile phones that are 100% Chinese. Chinese, not Korean...
I know Hyundai is south korean since I was a little kid. I did the china example for motorcycles.Turkish economy is currently so fucked up. 1 dollar is about 14 turkish liras. Dollar keeps increasing. My turkish money in the bank is getting wasted.
@Vivaldi So the Bayraktar TB2 is also Chinese, despite it is being sold under Turkish brand?
@Vivaldi I was involved in ANKA UAV and aircraft production project for 4 months in Turkey. I saw that there are dozens of factories in Turkey. You don't know your own country :)
@WilliamAnton That does not mean Turkey makes them. They are produced by foreign licensing
@Vivaldi What is your job? Are u crazy? Do you know what does produce mean? Bro, i think you don't like your country
Can't you get foreign licensing?
It is the licensing of foreign brands.Altay Tanks in Turkey are, for instance, produced by Hyundai licensing. Can you Get this?
@Vivaldi Look, I don't know what is your job, but you don't know your own country. I come 3 times a year. I have friends working in the defense industry and we are making investigations.For example, I can tell you 5 missiles licensed in Turkey. I can say that the air defense system is licensed in Turkey. I can say land and air vehicles which licenses are in Turkey.
@WilliamAnton A country which can't even make a small bike? Every Turkish Brand bikes are made from pieces of China. Pieces all come from China.In 2021, we don't have a local car.
@Vivaldi I wrote you one message before. You can read. You don't wanna understand.
@WilliamAnton I read and I dont fucking believe it. I gave you my reason.
You can't fly without learning to walk.
Last message is you don't know your country lol. Search a little.
@WilliamAnton Man, I am teling you Turkey cannot even make a small bike. What the fuck.
@Vivaldi You don't know your country or don't like your country. I am a Polish but i know your country better. Go away
Also you search how a lot of things such tanks, metros, tramways in Turkey are made by Hyundai.We can't even make a small bike. We don't have a local car going. Etc.
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@Jason0808 And you notice that the major experienced space agencies set tiny goals. One little step at a time. The last thing they want to do is set a goal and fail because then their funding gets cut/reduced and people think they're a joke. How slow Mars exploration has gone could drive you insane BUT a lot of progress has been made over the decades.
The oldest agencies will get forced to speed up as newcomers like China go into their territory more tho cause there will be more competition.
Yes you are right
@gag647485 Hi there.
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@gag647485 What's what? Four squares? Yes Jason, what do those squares signify?
what dod you mean @xtcy2083
What did you mean @xtcy2083
@gag647485 Four squares. Your comment here. Is that some kind of geometrical puzzle we're meant to solve?
haha i dont know
Whats ur name @xtcy2083
I'm tired. Time for bed.
Oh ok sleep nice
I don't know why this is the news that gets out about Turkey but not their recent war crimes or Erdogan working with ISIS
Erdogan is not working with ISIS
So what about the Turkish MIT ordering to save ISIS members out of Hasakah camps and then the Turkish media saying they saved a woman and 4 of her children? ISIS took over a third of Iraq and half of Syria in 2014 so they became powerful in resources like oil, they had connections with Turkey and they both happen to support the Muslim Brotherhood. Erdogans goal is to establish a worldwide Islamic caliphate and go back in time with islam (sounds like ISIS to me) or the fact that Erdogan has neglected to do any counter terror attacks against ISIS. Just look at Turkeys recent history as it was supposed to be westernized yet it continues to fall further and becomes more hostile towards Europe and the US. The only reason you see Erdogan sometimes "bashing" ISIS is because of pressure from Russia, Europe and US. Seeing people put Erdogan in a positive light disgusts me, he is a discriminatory piece of shit.
here's these straight from wikipedia "On 27 March 2014 an audio tape recording of high-level Turkish officials discussing Turkey's Syria strategy was released on YouTube. The officials discussed a false flag operation that would lead to an invasion of Syria. YouTube was subsequently blocked in Turkey.A vote in the Turkish Parliament was scheduled for 1 October 2014 on whether or not to invade Syria as part of the war on ISIL. while preparations for a possible intervention were made. It was later delayed a day.The de facto "declaration of war" took the form of two separate motions, one on Iraq and one on Syria, which would authorize Turkish troops to invade those countries. the opposition said they hadn't been able to read either motion, as the exact text had been delayed.Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç said that the gist of the resolutions was to extend the current mandate for "hot pursuit" against the PKK and Syrian Army into Syria and Iraq, which was to end the second week in October, to add the Islamic State to the list, and to set up a buffer zone on the Syrian side of the border.President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan opened the parliamentary session by saying that Turkey would fight against the Islamic State and other "terrorist" groups in the region, but would stick to its aim of seeing Bashar al-Assad removed from power"
"With the governing party losing its majority in the Turkish general election on 7 June 2015, rumors began to circulate that President Erdoğan would order an intervention of Syria to prevent the creation of a Kurdish state straddling northern Syria and Iraq.On 26 June, Erdogan said he would "never allow the establishment of a Kurdish state in northern Syria". By the end of June, a number of Turkish newspapers reported that Ankara was considering a ground operation to establish a buffer zone in Northern Syria to prevent Syrian Kurds from declaring an independent state, a zone 110 km long and 33 km deep along the Turkish border.The military demanded legal backing for such a move, and on 29 June 2015, Erdoğan chaired a meeting of the National Security Council to provide just that.Leaked plans stated that, sometime during the first couple of weeks of July, up to 18,000 troops would invade Syria via the Jarablus and Aazaz border crossings, areas in the hands of ISIL and the Free Syrian Army, respectively, and set up a buffer zone to which refugees could be repatriated.Limiting intervention to airstrikes has also been discussed. The idea of going into Syria proved extremely unpopular with most sections of Turkish society, dissuading the government from invading"
Erdogan will work with anyone that will get him an edge against those he discriminates.
You are really funny. There is no money left in Turkey's central bank and it is constantly being borrowed.
Lul, every country constantly borrows money. Its their ability to repay debts u should take into account. Then again, u told that the TCB has no money while they 56 billion $ of reserves. So, u r wrong.
Hahaahahaahaha Okay Okay funny
This has nothing to do with religion
Sounds like someone got dumped by a Muslim. Who hurt you? 😂
@TruthBringer It's a joke.If anything you sound hurt for responding this way.
@TruthBringer Sorry, joke police.
Pretty sure they're not part of the EU dude.
@BoobMan My apologies. You are correct. Turkey and teh EU have relations but Turkey is not a member.en.wikipedia.org/.../Turkey%E2%80%93European_Union_relations
Yeah--no problem man. There was vague talk of Turkish entrance a while back, but it seems pretty unlikely to happen anytime soon.