Which one would you rather live in?

[FinalFantasyBro]

Live in a developed country but be incredibly poor

Live in a undeveloped country but be incredibly rich.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

That looks very much like a photo of parts of Metro Manila in the Philippines. To some Manila residents, I'm considered incredibly rich and even got treated like a queen. But, back here in the USA, I'm "probably" just among the upper middle class. My wealth can go a long way in a country like the Philippines. I've tried it there for 19 long years. However, I realized that I'm a lot happier in a place like California in the USA even though my wealth can easily be humbled by my neighbors.

[FinalFantasyBro]

Wait Dee I have a question are you Filipino yourself?

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Yes, I'm half Filipina.
I was born in the USA.
I have a Filipino mother and an American father.

[FinalFantasyBro]

Oh Cool

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Thanks @FinalFantasyBro for the other MHGirl. :)

[FinalFantasyBro]

You Welcome Deedee

[Babygirl_S]

Living around rich people of a developed country as an incredibly poor person sounds worse than having to see slums occasionally.

[Babygirl_S]

Thanks for the mho! ❤

[Anonymous]

Developed country and be poor, at least one with a good fundamental welfare system, like in Scandinavia. I have been relatively poor there (as a student), and with support from family it was not bad. At least you can always get a roof over your head, money from the state for food and free health care and education.
If one is not sick or old (and not able to work), then one can work up to the middle class.

If something goes wrong in an undeveloped country you might be screwed. No safety net and lots of corruption many places. But well if I still had my citizenship in Scandinavia I could always go back to my home country xp

[hahahmm]

B. In a 1st world country the government is run by morons I have no control over. In a 2nd world country the government would be run by my friend Bob or my wife's cousin Joe. Lots of room to negotiate and get advanced notice of bad things. And I bet it only cost 1/1000th the "donation" to keep the authorities from harassing my business interests. Plus, if I want to do good things like build a hospital or school it's going to cost way less money to do it in the 2nd world.

[NathanDavis]

I'd rather be stupidly rich... and invest 80% of that fortune on making things better and easier for the undeveloped regions of such place

and invest smart so it really makes a change, not just donate money for things that won't help the situation

[DonkeyDan]

I came from money and I never want it again, I've seen what it does to people, and that's not who I want to be. Its why I don't speak to my family anyone, I'd rather be poor.

[Anonymous]

None of them are suitable for me. There should have been the option of live in an underdeveloped country and be incredibly poor. I can never forget where I came from and I don't want to change that. There are still good neighbors in an undeveloped country, everyone understands each other, everyone gets on well with each other, they never compete in anything. I could never give up on them.

[FinalFantasyBro]

You would choose to live in a underdeveloped country while being underdeveloped financially yourself?

[AmandaYVR]

The developed country. Seeing beauty is motivating. You want to be part of it.
And the wealthier country has more stability, and tends to take better care of its citizens in times of need.

[Jamie05rhs]

If you were American, I believe your opinion would be different (regarding the second half).

[AmandaYVR]

@Jamie05rhs Oh I know, I lived in 'the welfare state', and it's gotten worse since I left. It's now reaaaally bad. (Though I think a huge part of that is weather-related, not governmental.)
I did compare America to the rest of the globe. It could be better, could be worse.

[Elise888888]

What is the welfare state? lol

[Jamie05rhs]

@Elise888888 She was being sarcastic. Lol

[Jamie05rhs]

@AmandaYVR What did you mean about the weather, though? That part went over my head; sorry.

[AmandaYVR]

I wasn't being sarcastic. California is known, euphemistically, as The Welfare State.
It's because CA is primarily left-leaning in govt and most citizens (though not all) and there are more social programs than in some other right-leaning states.

But I believe the main reason CA has the highest homeless population is actually because the weather is so mild, it allows for people to live outside all year long.

But yes, Jamie, compared to some other countries, America does not take care of its citizens as much. It's dog eat dog.

[Jamie05rhs]

Ohhhhh. Yeah, I guess maybe California is very generous to their vulnerable populations, compared to other states. (Though I don't know, because I've never lived there and I don't have personal experience with their government.). I just thought it was sarcasm because the USA kind of has a reputation for having a lot of government programs to help the poor, and yet I feel like most of them are just photo-ops for the politicians to make them look good, but the system isn't very efficient, and a lot of people suffer because they don't get the help they need (which the government CLAIMS is available but in reality is not.). So that's why I kind of saw it as a joke.

[Jamie05rhs]

And ohhh. Ok. I see what you mean now. Yeah, that's a good point about the weather in California. ... But you can't blame people for going where they have the best chance to survive. No one wants to suffer out in the elements. I can't imagine how excruciating it must be to die in that way. Utter hopelessness and mental and physical torture. Someone just died in DC the other day from hypothermia. It was incredibly sad. This is the stuff that fills me with rage for the plight of humanity.

[AmandaYVR]

@Jamie05rhs Yep.

I looked this up.
"According to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority (LAHSA), the lead agency in the Los Angeles Continuum of Care that coordinates housing and services for homeless families and individuals in L. A. County, the rise in homelessness here is a result of stagnant income, rising housing prices, lack of investment in mental health services, lack of tenant protections, and discriminatory land use. Another major factor is mass incarceration. LAHSA found that 60% of L. A.’s homeless population has cycled through the criminal justice system.

There's also illegal immigration issues.
And people ending up there from all part of the U. S. It's a destination city. But not an easy city, by any means. It has a high turnover rate, many people leaving within two years.

Long article. I just skimmed it.
laist.com/.../understanding-homelessness-city-los-angeles

[Jamie05rhs]

@AmandaYVR True facts!

[humanearth]

It doesn't matter which one, because the whole world is going to look like an undeveloped country in a few years. You think things are bad now, the worst is yet to come.

[JustinTheGreat]

Define “incredibly poor”
Do you mean living in the ghetto, getting your electric bill shut off , roaches in your apartment, living check to check type of poor? because been there, done that.
or homeless type of poor?

[FinalFantasyBro]

Homeless

[RobT312]

if i were rich i could help the undeveloped country.
id try to do that

[ImRetarded]

Nothing better than taking advantage of poor people and bending them to your will with your money and power. But that's just my opinion.

[Anonymous]

That’s a tough one because I’m already considered poor in a developed country even though I make a good paycheck, it’s considered low for where I am , maybe if I was rich in a poor area that would be interesting but I wouldn’t have access to modern medicine

[AviatorTom]

NOTA. I'd rather be a middle class person is a mostly-developed country.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Live in a developed country but be incredibly poor

[devoygf]

Live in a undeveloped country but be incredibly rich. i can help develop the country

[Joshua0213]

The incredibly poor in developed countries have more money than most the rich in Undeveloped countries so defintely developed

[htmndg183]

That isn't the case. Doesn't make sense. That would implay a poor person for eg earning the minimum hourly wage in the UK for 40 hours a week is at par with a rich person in a developing country. That ain't right. I'm speaking as somone residing in a developing country. The poor of the developed country can definitely be at somewhat par with the middle class of a developing country but not the rich.

[Joshua0213]

Well nobody specified developing. It says undeveloped

[htmndg183]

Undeveloped and developing imply the same thing really. Some would call Pakistan undeveloped and some would say developing.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

If you choose the second one, then you could probably make some changes

[Nazgol]

A. At least something to feel good and secure about

[Fuentes]

Well if i was rich i could build a a huge roch business make it nationwide and move

[Fuentes]

Rich*

[Anonymous]

in a developed country, I can beg for money and get more resources. in a poor country, id be a target and constantly looking over my shoulder

[Bismarck_96]

In a poor undeveloped place and being rich you'll have people chasing for your head

I'd rather have the resources and be poor although money can't buy you health or life