this is only prevalent in the U. K, elsewhere like U. S. people will shoot eachother with guns instead. it's a problem you can't get rid of, aslong as theirs bad evil people in the world , violence will always exist.
the U. S. is the opposite, they have the same problem but with guns. so you can't blame weapons, it's the mindset behind it.
I also did see that episode of eastenders where they brought real-life victims of knife crime on set , it was interesting to see one of this year's knife victims, the carribean black mum who lost her son, that was recently in the news was on there
if the PC mind police stop that will not cure the current problem but it will help to begin in a productive way discuss the problem in a pragmatic and realistic situation when possible and support the posibility of worth while sentences without the UK police being seen as racist if they arrest " the wrong person" due to some precived victim hood
Take away guns, they use knives, take away knives they'll use screwdrivers... honestly you must look at the underlying causes, not the weapons themselves.
Not even surprising, fact is that the Tory government cut the number of coppers by the thousands and cut the police funding and will be continued to be cut in the future.. You Slashy the security fund, more slashed people.. #StopTheSlashTories
I should have the right to bear nuclear arms, these anti-arms movements are ridiculous. People are going to kill each other anyway, so you might as well give me a nuke.
@goaded Not going to say homicide is more frequent in London than high crime U. S. cities, but it is extremely important to qualify exactly what metric is being used. The ONS (in the UK) tracks homicide very differently than the FBI (in the U. S.), the ONS reports the homicide at the time of conviction where the FBI does not appear to do so (as their numbers are estimated), meaning the ONS omits unsolved murders, leading to artificially low homicide rates, until a conviction, then artificial spikes upon convictions, particularly of mass murderers (i. e. UK official murder rate in 2003). I don't know what statistic the maker of that graph is using. Is it convicted homicides? Is it investigated homicides? Is it something else? Without that information, the statistics are almost meaningless.
@JZ909 Apparently, they used USA Today/Police Department crime data and the London Metropolitan Police (it says so in the image), not the FBI or ONS. Either way, homicide has to be the most easily comparible statistic: 1 intentionally killed person, 1 homicide. Delaying the counting until conviction (are you sure about that, not just until the coroner's inquest?) doesn't much affect the statistics, except to throw the time axis slightly off.
@goaded I looked at the information again, and as much as I hate to admit I was wrong, I think it's important that I do. I was mostly wrong. The ONS adds the statistics at the time of recording, but they will record without a suspect. In some cases, like Dr. Harold Shipman, who killed 172 people over many years, all of his actions were recorded in 2003, when it was determined that foul play was involved in the deaths, which causes an artificial spike in the data.
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Thank you sweetie. This is a really powerful myTake.
Thank you💗
this is only prevalent in the U. K, elsewhere like U. S. people will shoot eachother with guns instead.
it's a problem you can't get rid of, aslong as theirs bad evil people in the world , violence will always exist.
the U. S. is the opposite, they have the same problem but with guns.
so you can't blame weapons, it's the mindset behind it.
I also did see that episode of eastenders where they brought real-life victims of knife crime on set , it was interesting to see one of this year's knife victims, the carribean black mum who lost her son, that was recently in the news was on there
I stopped watching Eastenders in the 1980's, I'm sorry I missed this episode, though.
Great take
As i thought so , you have a big heart and kind :)
I sure hope this ends, and i feel sorry for those kids
Thank you💗
Welcome <3
Lives without knives? How am i going to cut my steak?
if the PC mind police stop that will not cure the current problem but it will help to begin in a productive way discuss the problem in a pragmatic and realistic situation when possible and support the posibility of worth while sentences without the UK police being seen as racist if they arrest " the wrong person" due to some precived victim hood
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A knife is so immature.
How much are you going to disarm your people.. Seriously If its not guns its knives.. Pretty soon it will be forks, spoons, nail clippers.. so stupid.
Take away guns, they use knives, take away knives they'll use screwdrivers... honestly you must look at the underlying causes, not the weapons themselves.
This is exactly why gun control won't work in America. What's next? Ban knives?
Just be glad you don't have legal guns in the UK like we have in america. There'd be 10 times more dead.
Yeah I am glad
if you account for the inner cites and blacks its the other way around
Not even surprising, fact is that the Tory government cut the number of coppers by the thousands and cut the police funding and will be continued to be cut in the future.. You Slashy the security fund, more slashed people.. #StopTheSlashTories
Get rid of your Muslims. If America got rid of its _____ and _____ all violent crimes would be near the bottom worldwide.
I should have the right to bear nuclear arms, these anti-arms movements are ridiculous. People are going to kill each other anyway, so you might as well give me a nuke.
Wasn't 2015 the year "Syrian refugees" started becoming welcomed to the UK en masse?
Must be coincidence.
I have a solution that might lower knife crime.
You guys should legalize guns again.
With all the lives lost from knives, the death toll would have been so much greater, has these people, and others, had guns.
Nobody except the police should have access to knives. London is like the wild west
Go back to using caveman stones.
lol.
@CluelesslyClueless nobody except the police should have access to cavemen stones
Open that border, accept un-vetted immigrants have a pathetic mayor and this happens.
The solution is, remove gun laws.
"Time To End Crime"
Criminals: "OK"
Yeah, that will work.
your country must be horrible
i almost throw up
;((((
Antarctica is probably better, but London is not too bad. But we still want improvements!
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@goaded yeah ;D
@goaded Not going to say homicide is more frequent in London than high crime U. S. cities, but it is extremely important to qualify exactly what metric is being used. The ONS (in the UK) tracks homicide very differently than the FBI (in the U. S.), the ONS reports the homicide at the time of conviction where the FBI does not appear to do so (as their numbers are estimated), meaning the ONS omits unsolved murders, leading to artificially low homicide rates, until a conviction, then artificial spikes upon convictions, particularly of mass murderers (i. e. UK official murder rate in 2003). I don't know what statistic the maker of that graph is using. Is it convicted homicides? Is it investigated homicides? Is it something else? Without that information, the statistics are almost meaningless.
@JZ909 Apparently, they used USA Today/Police Department crime data and the London Metropolitan Police (it says so in the image), not the FBI or ONS. Either way, homicide has to be the most easily comparible statistic: 1 intentionally killed person, 1 homicide. Delaying the counting until conviction (are you sure about that, not just until the coroner's inquest?) doesn't much affect the statistics, except to throw the time axis slightly off.
@goaded I looked at the information again, and as much as I hate to admit I was wrong, I think it's important that I do. I was mostly wrong. The ONS adds the statistics at the time of recording, but they will record without a suspect. In some cases, like Dr. Harold Shipman, who killed 172 people over many years, all of his actions were recorded in 2003, when it was determined that foul play was involved in the deaths, which causes an artificial spike in the data.
@JZ909 You have my respect. Too many people won't admit when they're wrong, or even that the other side might have a point.