What do you think of Fire fighters damaging cars parked in front of Fire hydrants?

I don't know anything in detail about this particular event but generally speaking, emergency services have the right to damage property in order to save a life or prevent large-scale damage of another property. I agree with that. In the case of fires or also medical emergencies, every second counts and there's really no time to push away some car.
Besides, I don't know how it is in America but in many countries, having a car insurance is mandatory for car owners. So in a case like this, the insurance would of course come up for the damages.
I dont think any car insurance company will cover damage incurred by Fire fighters because you choose to illegally park your car where you shouldn't have, at least in the US. But I'm not 100%.
Ah okay, that makes sense. I didn't think of the fact that it is illegal to park there.
The thing is in my country Switzerland you basically have parking lots marked with color everywhere. Unless you see the colored lines (usually they are blue), you're not allowed to park anyway. So the local governments probably wouldn't mark a parking lot right in front of a fire hydrant.
Fuck them, they know what hydrants are for and the law says no parking their for a reason. Personally, I'd smash their car AND press criminal charges against the owner for reckless endangerment.
It's the same concept as EMT's who cut through your clothes so that they are able to see the injuries to your body...which would you be more upset over...a ruined dress, or car, or dying or your entire house and every single one of your belongings being incinerated or the loss of potential life because someone was like, but what about that one guys car who can't read the thousands of clearly printed signs that say "do not park here." You will win no sympathy, legal or otherwise, from me in either case, which are truly life and death.
I think it's a great... You're not supposed to park that close to a fire hydrant if you do you're breaking the law and taking a risk. If your car gets damaged it's on you. The firefighters have a job to do and lives to save they will crush your car like a soda can if they need to and I'm all for it...
People who park in front of fire hydrants are breaking the law. The law is there for a reason: firefighters need access to the hydrants! If the car is really in the way and the firefighters can't work around it without losing precious time, I think they have the right to damage the car.
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We don't usuallyhave that same problem here in the UK , hydrants tend to on pedestrian pavements , or on side of some buildings , marked with a yellow H plate. These normally have the double yellow lines on the road nest to them... it is illegal to park on double yellows.
Former retained ( on call part time ) firefighter ( my watch was disbanded in 2012... thanks to " government " budget cuts , so the full timers have no on call back up ) The firefighters did what was necessary , so many people are idiots and / or self centred.
Well it's not that different here, its ilegal to park in front of s fire hydrant. I'm sure fire fighters where you are would have a worse time if somebody parked on top of the hydrant for starters they'd have to find it. Where I live due to budget cuts fire fighters have taken on the roll of paramedics too.
They don't hand out a driver's license just 'cause you pay them some money. You're required to take a test and LEARN the "Rule of the Road". As I recall, parking in front of a fire hydrant is illegal in any state I've lived in or even visited. Doing that will either get you a ticket, or your car broken if firefighters need access to that hydrant. Anyone who parks in front of one, gets what they deserve. You KNEW better than to park there.
@LegateLanius - at your age, you should know better than think ANY city would be held liable for any damages to a vehicle parked in front of a fire hydrant done by the fire dept. You are 150% totally wrong on this point!
Thanks, buddy. I actually don't care.
@Goforit1010 laying the smackdown.
@LegateLanius you care.
Not when someone decides to be an asshole
@LegateLanius - you mean you KNOW better and yet give an answer that you purposely KNOW is wrong? What's your point?
Actually, I didn't know that they were not responsible for the damage to the car their own employees did to your private property. Rather than being an asshole, you could have just explained it politely.
But, considering that. This discussion is over. I will not partake in arguing with you any further.
It's funny. I like. It's the law. It isn't wrong. It is ILLEGAL to park in front of fire hydrants because when there is a fire the fire department has to be able to ACCESS the water.
They deserve it. I laugh at those cars and the self absorbed owners that block them. I wish the damage to the car was greater.
I wish the Fire engine had bull bars to bulldoze them out of the way or if the Fire fighters could flip the car upside down.
Well I get the impression they sometimes do so unnecessarily but I don't know if that is true
Do they really need to run the hose through the car? Why not just across the hood or whatever?
I think that they should not damage them if there is no actual need to do so though they should not go terribly out of their way to prevent it either
Whoever has parked like that is eligible for a fine anyway and I don't know if there are provisions for it but if not there ought to be so younger an even greater fine if the hydrant is actually needed
The hose has to be as straight as possible for water pressure so it can't really go around or under or over.
Well going through the car is not quite straight either I can't see that it is all that different than say running it under the car seems like it would be a similar curvature depending on the type of vehicle
So I don't quite buy that
Don't get me wrong I am not condoning people who park in such manners I think on principle it would be better if they were fined far more severely than being punished by having to get their damaged vehicle repaired
There aren't an unlimited amount of resources in the world and every time something is damaged or destroyed that didn't need to be it taxes those finite resources
So if it can be avoided it should be
People should definitely be fined more harshly for parking in front of a fire hydrant but in an emergency or any other time fire fighters are supposed to have unrestricted access to hydrants. Lives litteraly depend on it.
Oh I completely agree it is an absolutely shitty thing to do
Endangering public safety it should be fined harshly
I just never condone unnecessary destruction of property and I don't quite buy the explanation about the hose as it often gets presented I think it is at least at times an excuse for them to punish the jerk who complicates their job
But that is not their providence
Ask any firefighter, its not a garden hose, it needs to be straight as there is so much pressure going through it. If it wasn't the case there'd be no need for a law about blocking hydrants.
https://youtu.be/Ci_sfp1rGjE
I do understand that perfectly well
But breaking the windows of a car and running it through there won't be straight either and unless it is a fairly low car it won't really be any straighten than running it under the car
Or running it across the hood of the car depending on the specific positioning
Fire hydrants are not at window level for most cars...
You need to watch the video. Fire fighters will do whatever they have to in the most expedient way to gain access to a hydrant to save lives, property damage to a law breakers car is not their concern.
I did watch it
It does nothing to change my mind on the matter if anything the opposite
They even quote them for saying that'll teach you not park in front of a hydrant again
Just further showing it to be vindictive vigilantism on their part
But hey they are heroes and saves lives and no sympathy for the jerks who break the law and so on
So most people don't question it
Just like they don't care about police brutality if the victim is actually guilty and so on...
But it is not okay
We as societies need to be better we as people need to be better and this goes for the firefighters just as much as it goes for the people who park in front of hydrants
It is not the firefighter's job to punish them but those who's job it is should punish them far harsher than they do as it is a very bad thing to do
It will teach them to park in front of a fire hydrant again. Parking in front of a hydrant is illegal and it's fully legal for a firefighter to take any action needed in a fire emergency to gain access to a fire hydrant. The firefighter in a fire emergency hasn't time to punish anyone, only time to hook up the Fire hoses to the hydrant as quickly as possible.
Its not a punishment, its just the car is in the way. They don't have time to punish.
Parking in front of a fire hydrant is illegal and unsafe. What are they supposed to do, let a dozen or more people die and then charge you with however many counts of either murder or manslaughter since you caused it? If they had the opportunity to go around it and broke the car I might feel differently, but in that video specifically the man left no room, he put other people's lives at risk and left no other option for fire fighters, I have little remorse.
that's what they get for parking there. during the written test, before you can even partake in actual driving lessons, they should've learned not to park next to a fire hydrant. so, don't go complaining if firefighters destroys the windows to save lives, don't complain about getting a ticket either.
I support the fire fighters on this one. Because there is a car in front the fire has more time to spread as the car is in the way of getting to the hydrant. So that the person is stupid enough to block it deserves what happened to him. Lives can be safed in those few seconds or minutes.
One thing I would like to mention before answring is: Is it really that hard to throw the hose over the car or push it under to reach the hydrant?
And to answer, I think it is okay to damage the car because you can get another car but you can't bring back a life.
I thought about that too, but I think they put it through the windows because they need to keep the hose as straight as possible so the hose doesn't kink or something, and feeding the hose under the car might take a bit too long.
They tell you not to park in front of fire hydrants for a reason. Fire Fighters have a VERY important job to do, if an asshole parks in front of a fire hydrant and the Fire Fighters have to bust up your car to get the hose through to do their job, then the mother fucker deserves to have his can busted, I'll even go as far as saying his/her issuance shouldn't pay for repairs.
It's the law where I live, you can't park within 50 feet of a hydrant. We also have "emergency routes" in the winter. For both of these legal zones if your car is in the way (especially if it's stuck in snow) the firetrucks or plows can smash it out of the way.
Shows people who thumb their noses at "don't park in front of fire hydrants" that you got what you deserved.
These people bring it on themselves. The law says "don't park your dang cars in front of fire hydrants". Fire fighters care more about doing their job than they do about your Mercedes or BMW. It's not rocket science.
It's common sense. You don't park in front of fire hydrants and you don't part in front of people's driveways. The fact that it's also illegal doesn't really detract from the fact that it's stupid and stupid should be punished.
It's unnecessary and unexcused if they can avoid it, but if it is a life or death situation and there is no way around it, then sure, the owner will be pissed but will also understand. Still pissed though.
People shouldn't complain about having a damaged car when there are lives being saved.
Additionally, the fire hydrants are clear and in view so if you don't want it to be damaged don't part right next to it T__T
If someone is enough of a dumbass to park in front of a fire hydrant, they deserve to have their car damaged.
You're not supposed to park in front of a fire hydrant in the first place, otherwise, they can legally do it to access the water they need and still fine you for it.
I am not against it cuz someone life is far more important than my property but if there is a way to save both, than its not a bad idea to piss someone off.
Definitely support the firefighters. Have heard of them doing this before and if it's necessary, it's necessary. The law says you shouldn't be parked in front of a hydrant anyway.
All for it. It’s obstructing the process of saving lives and property - if they want to leave their car there then they can deal with the fall out
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