
Any Opinions On This George Floyd Craziness?


Leaving aside the specifics of the case, there being no obvious defense for the police officer, the country is getting a taste of what life would be like absent the police. As Hobbes said of the state of nature, it would be "Nasty, brutish and short."
If anything, the current upheavals are highly reminiscent of the 1960s. Race riots, routinely referring to police as "pigs," the counterculture and so on. This time, however, amplified by social media.
Be that as it may, as can be seen in the pusillanimous Governor of Minnesota and the Mayor of Minneapolis over four full nights, the lessons of those decades past have not been remembered. Instead, they bow and scrape before the "honest feelings" of the crowd and restrict the action of law enforcement on the preposterous assumption that defending law and order will be taken as provocative.
The net result will be businesses burned to the ground, jobs permanently lost and communities decimated. As often as not minority communities for whom these leaders have been shedding crocodile tears.
Fun fact, by the mid-1970s, a Gallup poll found that 71% of women - and 92% of African-American women - reported feeling unsafe walking in their own neighborhoods at night. Such were the fruits of a culture that emphasized feelings over thought, that prized "understanding" over order. That characterized the criminal not as a responsible being but as a victim of the "establishment" or the "police" or "the man" or "racism" or whatever. (The list of oppressors being endless and endlessly flexible in its definition.)
So now we go down the same path again. The idea that the cop who killed George Floyd ought be charged with a crime being somehow seen to be incompatible with the idea that rule of law must still be enforced. So insipid Governors yammer on about understanding the peaceful protesters - as if it will be possible to separate them out of the crowd from the violent protesters - instead of imposing order and keeping the streets calm.
It is a grotesque spectacle born of a culture that has lost the capacity for reason. It does not matter how you feel. Once upon a time grown adults were expected to control their emotions and restrain their actions, no matter the provocation. Now we are expected to understand their passions as the cities burn.
Suffice to say, with that pathetic standard, there will be many more cities lit aflame.
I'm not American, and I'm not familiar with the story.. but I did hear about the Aubrey incident.. which was itself a totally hyped up, media driven operation.. it seems people love identity politics so much, they will just keep on looking for an incident to confirm the whole identity politics narrative and racial polemic.
Judging a whole society by one cherry picked incident... when the Aubrey incident turned out to be largely the "victims" fault.. that requires a doubling down to find a new excuse to judge a whole country at racist, as long as a single example can be found to prove the theory, while police get vilified on mass, and crime statistics and common sense go out the window, in the double standards of evidence that get applied to interpreting reality, to justify the "systemic oppression" accusation, which excuses irresponsibility and unaccountability that are the primary cause of any the statistical disparities in policing. Watch the Rubin Report, and listen to what Larry Elder had to say on this issue... these cultural events create by journalists, who use fake principles inspire vulnerable narcissism as a political ideology, forcing everyone to get entrenched in defending against toxic racialist generalisations, instead of attending to the root cause of the issue: there is a disparate crime rate, and the police are human, so they develop stereotypes based on their own experiences: if there was no disparate crime rate, then systemic arguments might hold some water, but as it stands, they are just a diversion from handling the toxic culture irresponsibility and naccountability, promoted by esoteric complaints based on racism, under the false banner of 'anti racism'
What, exactly, did Ahmaud Arbery do wrong, to deserve to be shot? I've seen a lot of lies on here about what happened, I wonder if you've seen them too and are misinformed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Ahmaud_Arbery
just like you to buy into the intellectual dishonest sophistry making the rounds.
When someone is trying to make a citizens arrest, and is holding a gun, it doesn't even matter if the right of the citizens arrest has been properly secured, or if it is even fully legal (I believe the citizens arrest was appropriate and called for, but I will concede that it may be considered controversial: it doesn't matter if its controversial, this sub-issue is a red herring).
If someone believes they are performing a legal citizens arrest, that is at least a putative intention of lawfulness; if you believe they are wrong in law, and that the citizens arrest is defective: then let them arrest you, and then use the opportunity to make your own case about it, when you get contact with your lawyer, or however you wish to legally proceed with the matter. You are not allowed to use self-help, you are not allowed to resist a putative citizens arrest by attacking someone holding a gun: had is just plain unlawfully. Two wrongs don't make a right, it doesn't matter if the citizens arrest even was defective or not: you are not permitted to grab and wrestle with a man holding a shotgun.
Aubrey assaulted the man holding a gun, even if you buy into the 'there was no reason to question him', that's no excuse.
The kind of low level intellectual sophistry employed to make Aubrey a martyr is truly disgusting race baiting. Live in common sense reality, exit the identity politics filter. Must a whole country stand judged as racist, each time there is an incident, before the facts surface: ever time the nuance is removed into a bullshit narrative hyper realism.
So, if I wanted to kidnap someone, I could legally point a gun at them and require them to submit to me, as long as I say "I am performing a citizen's arrest"? Good to know.
No-one knows what they said to him. What if it was "we're going to shoot you, and there's nothing you can do about it"?
We do know that one was an ex-police officer, and one of those "responsible gun owners" had previously left a gun in an unlocked, unattended, car. They could have pointed a camera at him, instead of guns, without any risk to anyone.
they were on the phone to 911, there is an entire recording on what was said during the assault.
but thank you for proving my point, that every excuse and technical possibility is used to vilify and assume that the the race baiting interpretation of events is what actually happened, unless there is specific evidence to the contrary... at least in the Aubrey case, there is such evidence, which is why the initial decision was not to make any prosecution against the men attempting to make an arrest.
By the way, your hypothetical is pretty useless and quite contrived and hardly worth dealing with. But obviously it's context specific... if you have done something that can be interpreted as looking suspicious, then if someone tells you they are arresting you, and on the phone to 911, it's unreasonable to think you are being kidnapped... if you have done nothing at all, and someone breaks into your house and wakes you up, to tell you you should answer questions and let yourself be arrested by them, a private citizen (you see how absurd your contrived legal hurdle is... never become a lawyer, you don't have the mind for it).
if you honestly think you are being kidnapped, and that judgement or view was reasonable at the time, then you can resist, sure: but that standard is not met... Aubrey actions were criminal, you cannot assault someone, even if you think they are doing something illegal; two wrongs don't make a right, and be sure about it, Aubrey was the first to break the law, by assaulting a man with a gun; even if the citizens arrest was illegal (which in my view, it clearly was legal: if someone won't answer questions, and instead runs away, that is the definition of suspicious behaviour), at that point, the escalation to arrest was justified, interpreting Aubrey fleeing as "jogging", is so disgustingly dishonest. You can't play games with reality, and selectively tailor the story just to fit your prejudiced, generalised and superficial worldview: based on cherry picked devil's advocate hypotheticals.
there is a nuance that you probably don't understand in my writing... there is a difference between illegal and unlawful... even if the arrest was illegal, it is not necessarily unlawful, and putative lawfulness can negate the unlawfulness of an action... although civil liability would still accrue, ie. Aubrey could of sued them for being treated illegally, but in my view since their conduct was not unlawful, or even unreasonable in any way, no criminal case would be made against them, for acting as concerned citizens investigating gravely and escalating suspicious behaviour.
when you run from questioning, it's reasonable to have suspicion that theft is in progress... they don't not try to arrear him at first... you don't read man, you just parrot race baiting scripted arguments.. you are a echo chamber of weak arguments... please leave me alone, I'm sick rehashing the bad ideas you have to uncritically digest and relay... just because it's a popular form of vulnerable narcissism making the rounds
the law does not adjudicate over counterfactuals, or inane hypothetical points dreamt up by pseudo intellectuals : your question is irrelevant, are you asking on behalf of God, why do you think your question matters at all... can I ask you why you continue to harass me, when I've already said that your exchanges are such low quality, it's probably a form of low-energy trolling... I'm not going to reply to you further
He was no angel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkdANEaIpI8
just so deal with the pathetic issue you left behind: If I'm investigating suspicious behavior, where I suspect a felony might be involved, I would think it reasonable to take precautions, because people who commit crime, can also be carrying weapons... Aubrey wrestled a gun that was in someone's hand.. they obviously considered the possibility he might be armed before that happened.. but someone willing to grab at a gun, could have just as easily been carrying one.. think the possibility was even speculated in the recording from the 911 call.
My opinion is very cute and dry. He did not deserve the hand that was dealt to him. He had done nothing wrong. He did not resist arrest. Those cops were intimidated simply by his size. I dont think it was a race thing. I think the cop was merely a pussy and afraid that this big man was going to take him out. There were 3 cops involved in this. 3 cops were kneeling on George. One on his neck, one on his back and one on his legs. This poor man, who hadn't even been resisting, was murdered by these sorry excuses of law enforcement. Not to mention that the charges they got him on were in fact false. I know there is a lot of debate on what had actually happened but the original news article released stated that George Floyd had attempted to write a check to purchase merchandise and the cashier thought it was a fake check so they called police. Later determining that the check wasn't a fake at all. George Floyd was described as a gentle giant who often spoke of peace and nonviolence. George Floyd cried out for his deceased mother while he couldn't breath under the weight of those police officers. George Floyd begged for his life multiple times and said "They're going to kill me". Not once did he resist. Not even slightly. Even when he couldn't breath and was in a complete panic, he still did not fight back. When paramedics arrived and told the cops to check for a pulse, they refused. When they were told to get off of George as he lay unconscious, they refused. As I said, I dont think it was a race thing. I truly believe it was abuse of power. They knew what they were doing. They didn't care. And all 3 of them should be charged with murder. Not just the cop who was on his neck. They all contributed.
@Suraj1711 this is definitely racial. Black men are targeted and mistreated the most.
I wish they would have done the same to Dylan roof
@Powderpuff97 while I respect your opinion, I cannot agree. I do not believe this was a race thing at all. Agree to disagree I suppose.
I disagree. This could to anyone regardless of race. What the officer did was inhumane. From the information I've gathered looks like the cop and another one had a history of complaints. And George Floyd and him were apparently coworkers while they both at a nightclub. The cop had a history of using force onto suspects and showing up on duty late.
@Suraj1711 exactly. All evidence leans toward a use of power on his end. I dont know about the other 2 police officers that were kneeling on him as well. But as for the one kneeling on his neck, given his long list of complaints due to brutality and using his badge as leverage, I definitely have to say I believe it was simply abuse of power. Karma finally caught up to him.
There is no indication it was racial, but the cop has been charged with murder.
it crazy even crazier they didn't even arrest the guys. they got fired and sent home to thier beds. george got a body bag
the outrage came from that... they had to "find" proof. if i or you did they we would of been in jail awaiting a trial. But then again it took them forever to arrest the normal white guys who shot a black man for jogging unarmed. becasue he look suspicious.
IT not your community when you DO pay taxes but you still get profile... daily and judge... again daily. over time it very hard to respect something that people remind you that your somehow just" here"
I do not condemn looting or violence of any kind. I mean none.
BUT there's SO MUCH HURT. centuries of it.
MLK was a peaceful man still got shot On April 4, 1968
for what? He just wanted America to stand buy it words: that we're all equal. we clearly know it not true.
and sorry america was built on violence hate and blood... it all america really knows.
paying for the sins of our fathers is pretty much where we all fall. that my opinion and to just delude this to simple looting and paying attention to "just" that mean your not much a wiser than the people who is doing all the senseless looting. The problem is something that is built in our society in the worst way. yes something needs to be done. Do you have a solution? at this moment i dont. I'm at a lost considering this isn't something new. No i feel more powerless than ever consider america was ok with a man like trump governing them.
People need to understand that a tendency towards violence by a large population not defined by an ideology isn't because this population is more inherently violent than others. It's a sign/alarm that there's something very wrong with the way that this population is being treated.
Girl i commend you. You probs have wrapped up the emotion of this situation clearly and respectfully as it possibly can be!!!
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Its really sad but what did he even do for the police to have reasonable suspicion?
He tried to use a counterfeit $20 bill.
@kodii_dako WOW! I haven't been keeping up. I did worse than that as tween. I hate this world.
That's not true. George Floyd tried paying for his merchandise using a check. The cashier thought he was forging the check and called the police. It was all in the news article that was released. Suspected forgery. They realized after the fact that the check was real.
That's it? Forging a 20 dollar bill? And he gets murdered by a cop? This country's police force is pathetic.
Sounds like cops are cowards. They feel safer killing suspected criminals rather than processing them the proper way.
This country makes me sick.
@DestinyElizabeth04 Everything I see is it was ALLEGEDLY a conterfeit. The man was a father and possibly hurting because he was staying home. Damn that is so heartbreaking. He maybe didn't even know it was conterfeit.
"Abumayyaleh remembered Floyd as someone who was always pleasant. He said Floyd "may not have even known that the bill was counterfeit."
www.nbcnews.com/.../owner-minneapolis-grocery-store-says-he-told-employee-call-police-n1216461
@wisefool And the media has been reporting about police brutality and race issues since before you popped out of your mother 😂
I saw the video yesterday. What the police officer did to him was very heartless. The police officer was just looking down at him the whole time without any expression on his face. That was so creepy. He stared at Mr. Floyd the whole time he was killing him. He seemed to not care at all about what he was doing.
The video was really sad to watch. Especially when Mr. Floyd stopped complaining after awhile and went completely silent because he wasn't conscious anymore.
It's unbelievable how cold both of the policemen behaved. The other officer was just standing there, acting like all of this was normal. The man who was kneeling on Mr. Floyd's neck was on him for such a long time. He had to have known he was doing something wrong, especially when Mr. Floyd became unresponsive. And even then, he refused to release him and continued to put his body weight onto Mr. Floyd's neck.
That whole situation was completely unnecessary and overdone. From my understanding, Mr. Floyd was already in handcuffs. So there was no reason to continue to try and harm him after he couldn't even fight back and wasn't trying to.
I think it is incredibly sad that loves are lost, it doesn't make a different what race/colour or creed they are. They are lives!
George Floyd RIP
It is apparent that usofa cops are not taught properly at all, no empathy, no proper tactics in dealing with situations in the correct manner.
They just assume that everyone is a killer, sadly a black man is seen as a bigger threat.
Cops don't care for right and wrong, they don't even ask the questions or approach calmly. They just pull their guns and start shouting, 9/10 people would question that and the cops automatically see this as resisting, this amplifying their behaviour.
Cops believe in the badge they wear and that it will protect them because theybare "the law!"
usofa are hell bent on the 2nd amendment, they believe it is their right!! No one has the right to bear arms! It is retarded and out dated.
Because of that, "the law!" Automatically assumes that everyone is a killer, more so if it fits their narrative because it is easy to look for the nearest black man to point the finger at.
The neck should never ever be a point of a human beings body to have that considerable amount of force on, even for half a minute!
No one learns thoigh, just keep the wheel turning!
It's fucking stupid!
"Allegedly" he tried to pay with a fake $20 bill. My question is, the video shows Mr. Floyd being taken out of his vehicle, put in handcuffs and sat down on a curb, all the time offering no resistance, so how did this escalate to him being on the ground with a Police officer's knee on his neck, while at least one other officer can be seen doing nothing. The officer with the knee on Mr. Floyd's neck had his hands in his pockets, while the other officer was basically just looking around, so how did an unarmed, handcuffed man pose any threat to 4 trained, armed Police officers? The officer in question is apparently a problem child, having several complaints against him for excessive force, so how was he allowed to still be on the streets, and what kind of training was he and the other officers given in handling restraining 1 non-combative man, and why are not all 4 officers behind bars at this moment? They really need to expedite this, make the arrests and put these depraved officers behind bars for the rest of their lives. I'm sure more info will be coming, but I really can't see this as being anything short of murder of a restrained, unarmed man, and the fact that the dead man is black and the officers, at least the 2 in the video are white, this has got to stop, and they are giving a bad reputation to all Police.
It's business as usual. Another Black man unjustly killed by racist police officers. It's a real problem in our society that people either deny or simply don't care about because their political party and ideologies are more important than the truth. They also believe that, by calling it, we're demonizing White people even though these issues don't represent all White people. Because of that, we live in a society where a large portion of the population believe that police officers can do no wrong. Statistics prove that Black people are 5 times more likely than White people to be killed by the police when unarmed. Of course, as they usually do, they attempt to blame the victim and demonize the Black man in most of these cases. In his case, they said that he supposedly paid for his items with a counterfeit $20 bill without any evidence. Other sources say that he attempted to write a bad check, also without evidence. This shows that can't even come to an agreement on how to demonize him. Even if there was evidence for either accusation, it still doesn't warrant kneeling on the suspect's neck and suffocating him. Floyd was also handcuffed through the whole ordeal. I have a friend that I grew up with that is a police officer. She said that the cop did everything that they were taught not to do in the police academy. A cop is responsible for anything that happens to a suspect when he or she is handcuffed. The video shows that he wasn't resisting and he was begging for help, saying he couldn't breathe. I'm happy that the cops were fired and the main one was arrested. However, I won't fully be satisfied until a cop actually gets life in prison for murder for a change for abusing their power and killing people unjustly. Unfortunately, instances such as these are only going to keep happening and people are going to continue denying that it is a problem for political reasons.
What the hell is wrong with police across the nation and why has our government stepped in and made some serious changes obviously they need to do a revamp to the hiring process like make the psych test a lot harder go back further to make sure they weren't victims of being bullied in high school or at least see how they handle it if they were bullied and after 3 excessive force charges filed on an officer bring in an outside nongovernmental company to evaluate the officer and terminate if received another and bring criminal charges to these cops that clearly murdered this poor man and hopefully the man's family will sue the shit out of the police there and it's ridiculous that protester's are always got to turn to stealing and attacking innocent citizens and stores I think what they did to the police station will make our government wake up cause America's sick of this bullshit and if something isn't done we're all going to hate to see what rioters will do next I mean come on it wasn't that long ago people were shooting cops these cops had better stop thinking they can do whatever they want and everybody is just gonna let it happen it's always seems like it's these veteran cop with sketchy records whoever is supposed to be policing the police need to have some shit put on them for not doing their jobs the future of America is looking pretty bad these days is this the America we're supposed to be proud of? The powers that be need to realize that ignoring this shit is going to bring America to a war zone do your jobs
I was shown the full footage and am completely appalled, outraged and sadden. This is what drives me insane as I know that it isn't compulsory for all officers in the states to be trained in first aid (and I find that whack as facing situations where they're dealing with life/death crisis, one would imagine it to be highly nessicary!) But as a normal human being one should know a knee to the neck plus being pinned down on the stomach can prevent proper breathing, plus his nose was bleeding so proper breathing was obstructed, plus the fear and anxiety he must have been feeling probably caused him to hyperventilate!! But these cops were far from normal and absolutely not understanding of "protecting and serving", cause again, a NORMAL AND SANE person would understand when one says "I'm in pain, I can't breathe". As a nurse, as someone who is dating an EMT, I've seen and witnessed, I've heard horrific stories, but I've never witnessed such brutal murder like this. I truly hope that more is done then these officers just simy being "relieved of their duties", no, this was murder, if they don't know how to properly serve their community, they can rot and serve time.
The video had me so angry. I was so so angry. Who do police think they are? They were invented to serve the public... in old magazines you'd see policemen carrying gas to broken down cars with a smiling face. What has happened? The whole system's fallen apart. What did they become police for in the first place? Everything about that was so so wrong
The rioters are disgusting. No one objects that what happen to Floyd was wrong. Yet even when the police department fire the 4 cops (something not normally done), the mayor is on your side, Trump is on your side, an investigation is launched. But still, still you riot. Normally people riot because they want to see justice served and they feel it isn’t happening. But this is just rioting for its own sake when everyone is one your side and was willing to give you everything you wanted. But even that wasn’t enough, what happens when you prove yourselves to be unable to be reasoned with and won’t stop? The government will put their foot down and it won’t be pretty.
Riots in 20 cities. Cop precincts getting abandoned as people try to blow it up. Cops getting shot and killed. Craziness all over the place which results in a dude getting fucked up but a FedEx truck. This is insanity. People being idiots over one guy's death has resulted in multiple more and now the army is poised to step in -- because that's going to fkn end well...
Also suddenly in an instant no one gave a fuck about covid anymore. The left were the one's calling for the continued lockdown on Twitter, but as soon as this shit hit well now apparently no one gives a fuck and everyone is going out to tear shit up in large crowds and get sweaty together, while Micheal Moore is calling them "good people burning down evil police precincts"... these fucking psychopaths, dude. smh
It is funny that many people at GaG think that people should not protest now and wait for some action by the government. When the only reason the police were fired was due to the public outcry.
The DA is refusing to prosecute. The FBI is supposedly investigating, but it is run by William Barr. . . so there isn't much hope there. The only thing likely to happen is a civil suit for a few million dollars.
But Mohammed Noor? That mug is in jail for 12 years.
Mohammad Noor has been arrested. He turned himself in last month. Do you agree with the charge of murder?
Ya just gotta remember that there is no acceptable form of protest. People need to stay nice and docile, then spend decades working to change the system through the system, only to achieve marginal gains. Because that's what all of this is about - people want the perception of change without all the fear and worry of actual change happening.
As for GAG, well there's just a lot of bootlickers here. On the upside, we'll get to see our reflection in those shiny cops' shoes, as they beat us to death for nothing.
@HungLikeAHorsefly I hear you.
My favorite episode of Deep Space Nine, "Far beyond the Stars";
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpTI-MFOFp0
Ha! I took a comparative literature class once, in college, and the professor made us write an essay on this scene. Something about how science fiction and fantasy that is rooted in contemporary socio-cultural issues is generally regarded as having higher literary quality than those pieces rooted in more banal things like base human emotions (love, ego, revenge, etc), regardless of the actual language used in the work or the medium by which it is consumed (TV, film, books)
Sisko is being marginalized due to some facet of his being - in this case they think he's crazy, but the choice to have the character played by a black actor adds a whole different dimension to the scene.
Anyway, to your point: yeah being polite doesn't work. They're going to do whatever they can to ignore the problem, be dismissive or claim it doesn't exist. So we have to force it on them.
@HungLikeAHorsefly That episode is so striking in so many ways. And you hit the nail on the head, they tried to convince him that he was crazy because of the future he imagined.
As for the ignorance of the problem. You will meet people who are not only trying to be ignorant. They are aggressive in that ignorance. And will get mad at your for shattering that fake reality where everything is fine.
Well, that's the reason they created the fake reality in the first place, isn't it? Because the alternative is too terrifying to contemplate. People dig in their heels and aggressively defend their position of ignorance because they're afraid and don't have the inner strength to overcome that fear. I think that's the primary root of evil: fear coupled with a lack of courage to move past it.
I'm not sure I agree. I think boiling it down to ignorance gives us comfort because at the end of the day, you can make people less ignorant. It's an actionable thing, which implies we can change or prevent all of those things on your list of evil.
I think there are some folks who are truly evil - they know exactly what they're doing and how it affects other people. Ignorance doesn't factor in. We can't change those people. The only thing we can do is remove them from the equation. One way or the other.
Perhaps you're right, though - maybe removing the powerful people from the equation means making the people who support them less ignorant about their methods & motives.
@HungLikeAHorsefly No ignorance is not some harmless lack of knowledge. Ignorance, the way we experience it, is always aggressive. What you get about these type of folk is that they do not know. And they want to stay "not knowing".
Hmm... true dat. Weaponized ignorance?
It seems pretty straight forward. The guy died from an asthma attack that was exacerbated by excessive force of one police officer. The medical examiner ruled it a homicide. So he should probably eventally be charged with second degree murder. All officers at the scene were fired and the one involved in the homicide is under investigation by the FBI apparently. All citizens have a right to due process so you just have to let it run it’s course through the judicial system. But rather than doing the right thing and being honest with people, the media lied to people about what happened because it generates ratings and gets people emotional. Then black people burned down their own neighborhood which is what they always do. It’s a cultural thing. When something bad happens to an individual they burn down their low cost housing and wipe out the jobs and conveniences in their community rather than waiting for a trial. Same shit different year.
More of the US's descent into psychopathy and lunacy.
Talk about being a psychologically disturbed nation.
And Trump's twitter response was telling and psychopathic as usual.
He spoke of his memory being honoured. By brushing it under the carpet? He couldn't give the slightest of shits about him. He was killed for nothing and the officers were just sacked.
People riot and act out in the face of injustice.
There is no accountability, no empathy, and no responsibility, no acknowledgement of a problem. So yes, people riot. What do you expect? It beggars belief.
Rioting and protesting injustice are two completely different things. Destroying stores, stealing flatscreen TVs, and burning the city to the ground is not protesting and does nothing but draw attention away from the actual tragedy, which is someone died in police custody that didn't deserve to die.
@NYCQuestions1976 I'm not justifying looting, rioting, whatever. Unfortunately, a degenerate element infiltrates and does stuff like as you say, steal flatscreen TV's. However what happened here was unspeakably wicked, and no one was held to account. Charge those 4 officers with murder, including the pathetic cowardly goons who stood by, and none of this would have happened.
It's two separate issues. The people that are destroying the city are rioters, and not protesters... and couldn't give two shits about Floyd being killed, other than his unnecessary death is a convenient cover and excuse for them being assholes.
They arrested the primary officer involved in Floyd's death, and charges are pending against the other three officers.
Also, the United States is not "psychologically disturbed". I don't recall a time in recent memory when Britain (or any part of Europe, for that matter) was the beacon of civility, morality, normalcy, and common sense.
@NYCQuestions1976 Well it's all relative. Just because I target the US doesn't mean that I defend Europe.
The US is clearly a psychologically disturbed nation. Look at the food you consume, the incidence of being overweight, and your media. Americans are a bunch of fruitloops. And the fact you would suggest otherwise says little more than your eyes are closed to it all.
Yes the media is off the wall, and all of the politicians here, regardless of party or policy, are assholes (same as anywhere else)... but neither group is the general population here. We also have nearly 350,000,000 people here. Expecting nearly every one of us to be "normal" or "average" is lunacy in itself.
Incidentally, the percentage of the population in Britain that's overweight is higher than in the United States. However, the overweight people that we do have here are the most obese in the world, on average. So we may not always have the most, but we always do it the best. 👍
Anyway, there's issues everywhere, and we'll just agree to disagree. Glass houses and such.
@NYCQuestions1976 you replied presuming partisanship from me. Just because I criticise the US, doesn't mean Britain is necessarily better. American culture is disturbed. That's an objective fact. Take an example, look at trump's Twitter. This is not a cheap jibe. There is little in the way of sanity or human harmony there. all the images invoke human derangement. Same applies across the board, irrespective of political spectrum.
Well it helps to compartmentalize the bad and good. It creates daily sanity and harmony. Is Trump a jerk on Twitter? Absolutely. However, before the pandemic, the unemployment rate was 3.3%, and that's something that can't be ignored.
That's just one example. You deal with the bad, enjoy the good, and roll with the fatness. As we say on the job, good or bad: It is what it is.
It was absolutely wrong of the police. People are obviously enraged, and will continue to be if the policeman who killed George Floyd isn't brought to justice. This is not done. And good we have cameras today so people can't lie about what actually happened.
It was horrible and couldn't have been handled worse.
But the way people have been using his death as a tool for identity politics is disgusting. The police officer may have been racist but we have no evidence to show that. He seemed to be fine with his Asian colleague. He equally and more likely could've just been an arsehole.
However, it seems like his death has been used as an excuse to reinforce group think/identity politics. Liberals tend to view the world through separate identity groups as opposed to individuals. Everyone gets separated into categories like race.
the policeman and all the other police people that were there when that happened should go to prison. seriously. this is the least that should happen here. no "sorry". this is inexcusable and if you're a policeman, standing or sitting next to another policeman actively killing a captive person that is already under control and not fighting back, then they are guilty of not doing their job of protecting the law and should at least also go to prison for careless manslaughter. the one that kneed the guy to death obviously should go to prison for murder or face death sentence, if that's what the law foresees for murder where he did that.
What started off as a legitimate reason to be pissed has devolved into an excuse to destroy and steal, despite adamant condemnation of such actions by Floyd's family. Now the protestors have become rioters, and are now the bad guys themselves. It's worth mentioning that while the media would have everyone believe that this is solely a reaction to a cop killing a black man, the rioters have now burnt, damaged or destroyed at least 30 (some sources say over 100) businesses and shops just in Minneapolis/St Paul alone (there's also rioting in Atlanta and a couple other cities and protests all over), many of which are owned or operates by ethnic minorities themselves. That's a LOT of people who have now had their lives crushed by these idiots, and they had absolutely nothing to do with the original incident.
Personally, I have no sympathy whatsoever for looters and rioters but this has already gone way too far. I honestly hope they get shot.
It was a tragedy that never needed to happen!
Sadly, the GREATER tragedy, is the riots and looting of businesses that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS MURDER!!!
Many of these are Mom & Pop local businesses, and these FUCKING BASTARDS are destroying people's lives, for no reason other than they cannot control their rage into a better, more constructive format!
These BASTARDS burned down a housing complex, under construction, for LOW INCOME UNITS!! That makes NO sense at all!!
All the damage they are doing won't bring this man back, and just further separates the ones that might support them, in the wrongful death cause, but the vandalism and looting makes those just hate everything about it!
They have passion, and rage, but it is going in the wrong places and HURTING THE SUPPORT THEY NEED for the cause, with the violence and looting!! SOOO STUPID!!
It was a horrible incident and it shouldn't have happened. I've been reading through the opinions and people keep talking about the rioting and looting saying there is a better way... I feel like these people are unaware that there are peaceful protests and people are getting teargassed, paint gassed, shot (a woman is now blind in one eye), run over, shoved onto the concrete so hard that they have a seizure by the very people that are suppose to be protecting them (police/ military) they gassed people on their front porch of their home jfc
yes:
I think minneapolis police especially have had an ongoing problem as they have a history of "touchy" and abusive police. Why... I don't know. Philando Castile was another... and the cop was not prosecuted.
he was killed as he was under control by police... just like this guy. this guy most haven't heard of.. he doesn't fit the profile of what sets off emotion or media. It's not just race.
* It's a turning point, but can't say which way we are turning, towards heaven or hell?
* It's giving people free right to do what they want... and that is bad for the rest of us who abide by order.
Its horrible what the person did. I'm not calling him an officer of the law because I don't feel based on what I've heard and seen so far that he upheld the law. That being said there are a lot of opportunist that are using this story to further their agenda which in my opinion isn't any better than what the officer did. You don't fight ignorance with more ignorance. If i was the lawyer defending the officer I would be happy about whats going on. Now he has leverage that he shouldn't have. Now he can claim that a fair and unbiased trial is not going to be possible. He can use the riots as part of an explanation of a population that is out control warranting his use of the knee on neck to as an attempt to maintain order and protect himself in a hostile environment. All shitty do why give them any ammo. You have people using taking afvantage and its sad
White men confirmed to have committed horrible crimes have been taken into police custody unharmed. Police even bought dylan roof a meal at burger king after he shot up a church killing 9 people.
This black man was SUSPECTED of forging a check and police killed him.
There is nothing right about any of that. There have been many examples before this, but this is the straw that broke the camels back.
The justice system has failed to do it’s job. Time to burn it down and build a new one.
I believe that what happed to him was unjust and tribble, and that the officers involved should be punished. I also believe that the riots and craziness following is a disgrace to this nation. Burning buildings and business is not a form of protest... it is crime. I also think that it is crazy that the same people who get mad at others for going to the lake bars (where people are together in close contact) are the same people who are okay and support the riots going on (where people are together in close contact).
My heart is heavy for all black men in America right now.. I fear for my people’s safety. I find myself thinking often about what if my dad, brother, or partner become another victim. All I can say is I am prepared to fight for my life, my child’s life, and my people’s lives if I am ever in a situation where they need me. If it is witnessed in front of me, I am prepared to risk it all.. my life included to protect the innocent. I will keep my people safe. No matter what it takes or how far I have to go.
Peaceful protesting is fine. If people want to setup camps in front of their buildings or the officers house that's fine.
What I'm not ok with is wreckless vandalism. Like setting local stores on fire. And I even seen this kid purposely breaking a civilian's car window.
That doesn't make anything better all you're doing is making the situation worst.
And this crap has spread to other big cities. Look it was those 4 cops from Minneapolis that screwed up. Drive there and join them don't spread that rioting bull crap here.
I need my toilet paper!
There's multiple sides to it.
1. Should there be stricter oversight of police in the USA? Sure.
2. This isn't about police violence, it's about race, about liberal whites trying to work with blacks against conservative whites.
3. This is also about power. There's great power in controlling what your enemies think and can say. Everyone in this case flat out knows it's about race, just ask celebrities They also know that when hispanic or blacks kill whites, any white who likewise says "A Hispanic murdered Mollie Tibbets" or "Black guys murdered Tessa Majors" will be condemned as evil neo nazi racists who are probably straight from hell.
A white person or cop or whoever kills a black, it's publicly discussed as racial and whites are shamed publicly. A hispanic or black kills a white? It's a crime to even consider talking about race.
You wrote:
"A white person or cop or whoever kills a black, it's publicly discussed as racial and whites are shamed publicly. A hispanic or black kills a white? It's a crime to even consider talking about race."
That's right.
Why?
Because the minorities are targeted by the cops and treated more harshly BECAUSE of their race.
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The white victims of crime aren't being targeted because of their race unless it's because white people tend to have more money. That's not racism; that's smart criminal targeting.
You also wrote:
"There's multiple sides to it."
Yep.
Above the knee and under the knee.
@abc3643 You wrote "The white victims of crime aren't being targeted because of their race unless it's because white people tend to have more money."
Actually plenty of cases whites are targeted because of their race by non whites, and denying that is ridiculous at best and flat out delusional at worst. Hell, I was walking down a sidewalk in Atlanta last Saturday and two black guys started yelling at me that white privilege was over and they were going to be rounding up whites soon.
@abc3643 Simple example of how untrue your comment is.
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I believe the police officer holding his knee down on the kneck
of Mr. Floyd should be placed under arrest for murder and be
charged it's plain no use of him lying cameras don't tell a lie
I'm glad that the Minneapolis DA's office has charged that asshole cop with murder and are taking the situation more seriously than the Michael Brown case and others. That cop should be put in prison for life or put on death row.
I wanna know what you mean by "this George Floyd craziness" @Gotcha_Writer10
it is tragic all the way around but what gets me is all of the rioting, looting and burning down of private property. what does that do other than make the people who are protesting look bad? Not only that we have only one side of the story. and the media will do anything to make sure a story fits their narrative.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/SgghI3WPSLwThe second part of that video tho... everyone needs to see that
It's hard to say without seeing the full video. Many of the videos of police beatings and shootings start recording halfway through the scene and don't show the suspect acting suspicious, arguing with the officer, not complying with orders and resisting arrest. I don't know why the media always tries to spin stories about race just because the officer happened to be white and the suspect happened to be black. It's more likely that the police officer was a douche bag and lost his patience for criminals making his job more difficult. It was obviously excessive force but doesn't look like intentional murder.
Seems pretty obviously unfair what happened.
Then those idiots decide rioting and destroying business and homes is the way to go. As if that doesn't just reinforce the stereotypes and harm their own neighbourhoods.
They are literally tearing up their own community. It amounts to nothing though...
In fact, theyll just end up getting arrested.
So just black peoples right? “Those people “ girl bye
It was numerous races involved and numerous other races looting
I want to see the video where he refused to comply before NEEDING to be taken to the ground and held. This just doesn't happen to people that comply and offer assistance if you were not part of the initial investigation of the call.
LET's SEE THAT all you people that need a sign to prove your relevancy, I mean once you stop looting that is. Go on I'll wait.
there's videos on youtube and facebook showing him being removed from his car without an issues, I dont know how you can resist arrest when your already cuffed. Also only going for 3rd degree murder... sorry what the actual fuck is that all about... it wasn't an accident it was preventable hows that so hard to get?
Still doesn't show what happened before and after the video or the conversation that went on. Also it came to light that the two worked together before the scenario went down, which is proof to me that it was something personal between them and not based on racism like the media wants us to believe.
No your right it doesn't. But it does show he got out his car no issues, the officer did start to being heavy handed after a while shoving him about, that and the fact they worked together should be enough proof to try him for 1st degree which is what it should be... does anyone know how long he had his knee on his neck for?
It's more that it happens that's my problem, I couldn't give a fuck what colour your skin is if your a cunt your a cunt.
Plus how can you trust law enforcement when this goes on? (I've not had the greatest time with them but nothing compared to what some folk have)
Those rioting though are the biggest cunts in all this
From what I heard, that cop that had his knee on Floyd’s neck already had a string of complaints on his behavior in the past, so the fact that his superiors already KNEW he was a problem makes them just as guilty. He needs a death sentence, and his superiors need to be fired.
As for the riots, the rioters are only hurting themselves and their community doing what they did. No jobs available? The jobs are going somewhere safer.
Very true. I don't understand why the cop was even allowed to still be working with the public after such a long record of complaints.
I also agree that damaging local businesses works against the economic problems that are already going on, such as so many people being unemployed. If I was one of those business owners, I would do what you said and move to a different location when it was time to rebuild.
The cop who did the actual killing is definitely going to prison.
The other cops may go to prison.
Frankly, any real sense of true justice would require the execution of the cop who actually killed him. I'm suspect his fellow future black inmates might help expedite that.
What happened to George Floyd was horrible, and the police officer who killed him should go to jail for a long time. The vast majority of police officers are good people, but the bad ones need to be eradicated.
However, as much as people seem to think that police brutality is a racial issue, it's not. When you look at the number of African Americans who get arrested, they are actually at a lower risk than the general population of being killed by police. The issue is that the media only makes an issue of black victims and ignores the rest.
And that is why there is this false perception, and why we see the entire country erupting in riots. The media are to blame for what is happening today.
No, police aggressions against black people has been a constant struggle since times after slavery ended. You don’t need the media to tell you that, just ask anybody in those black communities. The media only gives a fuck when there’s a killing involved, but there’s a lot more that happens when the cameras aren’t rolling dude.
I'm not saying there isn't racism, because there is. And I'm not saying blacks don't get killed unjustly by police officers. But the perception that it happens more to blacks is false. In fact, statistically, it happens slightly less to blacks relative to the rate at which they commit crimes. That is, a black person who gets arrested by the police is slightly less likely to be killed than a non-black person who gets arrested. That is an undeniable statistical fact based on FBI statistics.
It also happens to whites, Latinos and Asians; we just rarely hear about it because the media doesn't cover it. That was my point.
The media does not report on everything but the media does report on killings in this country on local news. In many cases the media focuses on things that gets people’s attention. However the video of George Floyd getting killed went virtual before media got hold of it. Also it does happen to whites Latinos and Asians. In ny there is a high rate of Asians being killed due to the coronavirus which I don’t condone.
In additon to that in America there is a double standard on how black and white people are treated when dealing with police. That is what people are protesting for. They like I do as a black men want to be able to jog through a neighborhood and not have people chase me and kill me just they heard of the neighborhood having a lot of break ins and want to take matters in to their own hands. I want to be able to get a job own a home in white neighborhood and not be looked at weird. My money is the same as another person. I want to be able to be get paid the same amount as my white counterparts. Be able to not be stared : followed through a store cause people suspect I am stealing based on the color of my skin. That is why people is protest. America has came a far way from slavery and the civil rights movement but we still have a long way to go
Obviously it was police brutality, and the officer should be charged and police training modified if that knee to the neck thing is taught.
Protests are clearly justified, but lighting fires and looting, well that's taking things too far.
Reform yes, anarchy no.
I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but you also have to consider the position the officers are in. For example, let's say your friend was wrongfully accused of rape, would you tell him "hey, you shouldn't sexual assault people" in public? Likely not, because even though hasn't sexually assaulted someone (so you think) anyone around who overhears this could run with it and say "I heard his friend tell him not to sexually assault people" and this could be used as evidence to convince people that he actually did rape someone. Law enforcement is under a lot of unwarranted heat right now, ever since Ferguson, really. They don't want to just offer up ammunition to the opposition on a silver platter. Now, does that mean I'm saying people shouldn't whistle-blow or oppose what they think is wrong? Certainly not. But if they deal with criminals who express discomfort on a daily basis, if they didn't think it would end his life, it's not very reasonable for them to publicly, verbally criticize the actions taking place. Unfortunately, this time was not one of the unwarranted occurrences. This was a very serious and unfortunate ordeal.
I agree that it isn't a standard operatingprocedure, and I agree that someone should have said something. But I can see why someone might not want to. It's like if you see someone broken down next to their vehicle in a really barren, desolate area. The nice thing to do would be to stop, make sure they're okay, and offer them a ride. But bad people started to take advantage of good people, and they'd fake a break-down and they'd rob people who stopped to help. Now good people are reluctant to do the good thing that leave room for exploitation. It's the same reason we have things like "innocent until proven guilty" and due-process. Because bad people wrongfully accused/framed innocent people, now we can't just trust people when they say someone has done something bad. If bad people didn't exploit things, this sort of thing would be a lot easier.
i'm sitting here thinking how different the country would be if the police went to neighborhoods and burned their shit down every time someone murdered a cop. These dumbass people out here burning down fucking Autozones and Target stores and looting shit. That ain't protesting; that's rioting and theft. I'm cheering for the cops on this one. We don't get to hold any other entire groups accountable for the actions of a few of them, so I'm not about to condemn all police for the ones that are shitty.
5haven't followed it.
I only know some black guy died in police custody... and right on queue strangers... criminals who do not even know him decide they can burn down their own communities.
I have seen this in the news many times over the decades.
If a direct relative wanted to assassinate a direct involved cop... I would understand. 1000s of criminal strangers ruining for decades their own communities... worthless humans.
@goaded
Why?
Your reading comprehension seems lacking.
I CLEARLY stated, I'd understand if some direct relative of him wanted to go after the specific cops.
Some guy begging does not excuse thousands of complete strangers who don't know jack shit about this dude to destroy the city and ruin people's businesses, ensure businesses will move out and not want to go near this area and turn it into a slum.
Rioters are a plague.
Why don't you quote where I said that? You said: "If a direct relative wanted to assassinate a direct involved cop... I would understand." You're advocating murder, I'm saying it's understandable that people riot when they're treated as disposable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rapfJYfPU38
@goaded
Yeah, you keep justifying riots.
"They are treated"
There is no they... there was this ONE man and 3 or 4 cops.
You play identity politics where all you need to know the races of large groups of people and then act like you know all you need to know about them and make all these assumptions.
All you need to know is that they are black... then you paint this one arrest to apply to everyone of that color.
That is idiotic.
The riots are criminal acts that are drawing attention away from Floyd's death, which is the actual tragedy. Rioting and protesting injustice are two completely different things. Destroying stores, stealing flatscreen TVs, and burning the city to the ground is not protesting and does nothing but draw attention away from the actual tragedy, which is someone died in police custody that didn't deserve to die.
Neither does peacefully protesting police brutality... literally cost Kaepernick a job. The excuse? Not the right platform
@Other_Tommy_Wiseau It wasn't the wrong platform for Kaepernick, it was the wrong time. He was on the clock when he chose to protest. You protest on your time, not on someone else's dime. If he had gone to the NFL and/or the players association, I'm sure they could've organized an event and/or charity.
@lockster The people that are destroying the city couldn't give two shits about Floyd being killed, other than his unnecessary death is a convenient cover and excuse for them being assholes.
He never resisted arrest so all that wasn’t necessary.
The officer after seeing the evidence seems pretty much guilty of murder, that however doesn't excuse the violence and hate and racism coming from the looters and rioters (they are not protesting a god damn thing, you don't protest by burning down peoples homes and busineses and stealing game consoles and tvs.).
It's very sad. Its infuriating how these situations keep happening. I only wish protests could go on and make actual changes without having some of them branch off and cause riots and looting. The outrage is completely justifiable... but in the end it isn't helping the cause and may even damage it in the eyes of the general public and especially those in power... who are already corrupted and biased. Its beyond me how police brutality is so glossed over. Its ridiculous.
It was kinda fucked up. The majority of people agree that it was pretty fucked. Democrats, Republicans, white people, black people, cops, and pretty much everyone else is saying that it was fucked up. And now we have people that are rioting and looting. Because now more than ever we need to make sure that we destroy our communities. That'll show 'em.
I don’t think it’s craziness, it’s long overdue. That cop had multiple complaints before he murdered Floyd and bc of our corrupt justice system that pig was allowed to keep his badge and harm more people. Fuck the MPD for allowing this shit to slide. Floyd was nonviolent and didn’t resist, so uncalled for and I hope that bad cop gets a life sentence
I think it's sad they burn down stores and vandalize random cars. Its just hurting their community and fellow civilians.
Maybe it's harder to do, but it would make more sense to burn down the houses of local cops if they are the ones they are truly mad at.
Stealing TVs so they can sell them on Ebay and Amazon.
@kodii_dako uhhh majority of the looters were different races so 😂👌
@Powderpuff97 Yeah, I know that the looters were white, black, hispanic, Asian, etc. If they live in that community, they're hurting their community, regardless of what race they are.
Another day, another Ferguson protests that turn into a riot.
Independent of the case of what happened, the way the public reacion is is just backfiring on the black communities. Even if the rioters are only opportunists, a healthy protest would stop them to make sure it doesn't paint their protests in a bad light.
Totally wrong what that cop did. Kinda pisses me off that some cops can't tell when they're putting someone's life in danger by the way they subdue a guy.
I just can't understand why he had his knee on the guy's neck that long. That's a temporary maneuver until you get the cuffs on him.
@Flower7 I think he was clueless and probably thought the guy was faking to try and get out of it. Why would he intentionally to try and kill someone with everyone recording it on their phones plus their body cams? He was just callous and uncaring thinking he was doing his job. Instruction must be vague to some of these officers on how to properly subdue someone.
I don’t think there should be “opinions”. I think it’s a fact he was murdered after he begged and begged and begged for his life. That officer and his coward friends are pigs and need to be jailed for life. Period.
i believe stuff like this happened very very often , not only in usa but everywhere , but only few ended up leaked like this.
anyway , talking police from my country , they arrested drug seller , take the drugs and sell it to people at much cheaper price , funny isn't it?
*talking about police
There were rioters, there were looters, and there were protesters. It's too bad there were the first two. It's easy to understand, with three incidents in 30 days and all the circumstances surrounding them. Hard to believe that Louisville was even worse.
I think the cops who MURDERED him need to be In prison for the rest of their lives.
I think the courts NEED to stop giving crooked cops a pass. Paid leaves and firing them doesn't cut it.
I think citizens should have the right to give vigilante justice to cops like this.
I feel bad for the 99% of police officers who have to deal with the backlash of this even though they've had nothing to do with it themselves.
What I don’t understand is why would you go and burn that police station... That police building holds evidence for other victims from other crimes. So now those victims are without the evidence needed to support their case.
Also why is it every time an unarmed black man/woman dies their is a riot that burns down half the city, including innocent business owners stores, buildings, not to mention they get looted... yeah real peaceful huh.
I can say I am upset he’s been murdered
but I’m EQUALLY as upset the town I live in has been destroyed
One thing that I have not heard, what was Mr. Floyd doing to get arrested in the first place? Regardless of that though, it was excessive force obviously. Whether or not it qualifies as murder depends on state law. I would imagine it will at least be manslaughter.
An employee at a Minneapolis grocery store called police after Floyd allegedly tried to pass a counterfeit $20 bill. This is what the media loves to do. All they tell you is that an unarmed black man was murdered by a white cop. They don't tell you anything else. They're trying to turn people against each other.
@kodii_dako Yeah the media should be more comprehensive in what they report. However that policeman should not have done that. But the violence going on isn't going to help the problem and they should resort to peaceful protest.
The cop was absolutely disgusting. Don't even get me started. I'm praying for you and your family floyd👐👐💗💗💗💔💔💔💔💔
EXACTLY!!!
The riots are just another signal of what's coming to the west.
This is the result of decades of communist indoctrination that says whites are root of all evil in this world.
This is the dystopian future that awaits the future generations.
Coexistence between races will never happen because nature doesn't allow it.
I'm just tired of being tired about this stuff. And people more upset because of the riots and such, but don't speak up about the actual reason why... you are apart of the problem.
For me ! It's tragic , devastating and brutal. My deepest condolences to his family and friends but when you see the news that people are looting and destroying things , that is ridiculous and will not bring justice to anyone.
I understand the loss of human life is not always necessary. It's very frustrating that this has to happen in the hands of police. Singer pisses me off most is why do we have two while protesting , loot stores and steal merchandise and cause property damage ! There are much better ways to get your point across in my opinion. And in the process of doing damage and all these things you're also putting their lives at risk again it just doesn't make any sense.
@wisefool yeah I guess I could see your point there can I have from past experience people are just disgustingly ignorant
@wisefool same thing happens when the city wins a national championship
@standingUP true
If the guy wasn't being an idiot and breaking the law he wouldn't have gotten his ass beaten to death in the first place. Whether he is black or white this happens all the time anyways. The police officers should be fired and never be in any type of law enforcement again. But if the guy wasn't breaking the wall this wouldn't of happened to him. It's just a bunch of BS and propaganda that the Democrats want to put on TV.
omg what is with all your right wings and your propaganda. NOT EVERYTHING IS PROPAGANDA. And you clearly haven't researched the story. George was accused of a counterfeit check which later was proven to be real. Then he got killed for that. He did nothing wrong.
He didn’t do anything!!! He was suspected of something that turned out to be false!!!
That’s not how you handle situations! What don’t you get?
The guy was spending counterfeit money. Don't tell me he wasn't doing anything LOL that's breaking the law in every degree
No he shouldn't have been treated that way, I agree.
And the cops should be fired and never be able to hold a job like that again. I don't always believe the news so unless I know the facts myself I can't really give a judgement. But I will tell you this, if he was trying to pass phony money to me I would have beaten the living crap out of him but not killing him.
I'm just saying in general if he was trying to give me phony money him and I would have a problem. And I don't care if he was white yellow purple green blue or black he would still be treated the same LOL it is wrong to deceive people and do wrong to others to profit for yourself. If his mommy and daddy did not give him an ass whooping like he should have gotten for being such a bad boy he deserves to get it now LOL sorry but I'm old-fashioned that way
HE WAS SUSPECTED OF IT
THEY FOUND OUT IT WAS NOT COUNTERFEITED
STILL NO REASON TO KILL SOMEONE EVEN IF IT WAS FAKE!
I didn't say it was ok 🤣
You’re acting like it by bringing it up
dude they literally proved the money to be real afterwards
I am completely for all those officers going to jail because they let an other officer slowly torture and man to death.
I am not for the riots and people have been hurt in the process of these riots! And millions of dollars in damages. Of people and businesses that had no part in the incident.
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