Because she was attacking with a knife, doesn't mean that the knife isn't a dangerous weapon. I just had to put that in here before I forgot about it.
Justified? Maybe it is the right word. I don't like it, and I don't want to use it, but it might be the right word.
When I see this situation, I can't get my head around what the girl was thinking. The closest I can think is that teenagers I've known through my life seem to think that when they're angry they can do what they want as though it's a get out of trouble card.
She was angry because people were at her house causing trouble and trying to fight her, or her family? Was there mention of a grandmother? Damn, I'd be enraged too.
If it was me, I'd call 911. I'd be throwing hands, or doing I had to do to protect my family until the police arrived. If they stopped their aggressive actions when the police arrived, I'd hope that I'd have the sense to stop too.
If the cop had just arrived, and I knocked on person down, and then charged at another with a knife... What would the cop think? I'd probably be shot too. I would have told you that even if we weren't talking about this story.
What did the cop know? A woman called 911. People were attacking? There was a knife?
Then he arrives, and before he has time to get control of the situation he see's a man kicking a woman in the head when she's on the ground. He see's a girl charging another with knife with the intent to stab her.
He's yelling "get down! get down!"
He's only about 10 seconds into this situation.
We can't assume that he knows the age of the girl with the knife. Even if he did, he STILL can't allow her to stab another person. The woman in pink was just standing there.
I'm sorry. It's a nightmare situation. It's ugly, but the cold hard truth is, the officer didn't have time to think. Even if he did, he didn't have a choice. He HAD to stop her from stabbing the other woman. It's the reason his job exists.
100%. If you're lunging at someone with a knife in the presence of armed police (especially if you're low IQ enough to believe the brainwashing of the mainstream media that being black in America makes you a shooting range target for all those evil cops out there), then 100% deserve to get shot. Possibly, maybe not killed, but Makhia Bryant is a Darwin Awards winner for sure, and I don't give a single baby mouse sh*t what race she was, as if that matters.
Remember when black people were getting shot and highlighted and they weren't straight-up criminals like this hood rat, Brionna Taylor, and one piece of trash who got shot last week? Are people so desperate for victim points they're making criminals and the lowlifes of society martyrs now? (Don't answer that; we already know the answer.)
Now I await for some retard to justify why a knife wielding hood rat attacking someone with a knife in police presence (too far for a stun gun to work) didn't deserve to get shot... The mental gymnastics ought to be pretty interesting to comprehend.
After looking at the video, I do think if there was a situation where shooting would be an option, this was it. Would a taser be better? Yes, she’s a child. It should not take lethal effort to stop a child. Then again, he appeared to be too far and multiple medical and other professionals did say a taser may not have been enough and shooting not in the big central area could miss or potentially kill someone else.
NOW I do not think that she SHOULD have died. This is just a situation where I understand how this death came to be. She called the police and was a minor I do not think she should be dead today at all. I also just think this was one of mant ways it could have played out and it’s an understandable way. She was acting as a threat to someone else and the police have to respond to that. I think he responded appropriately but I’m also just not sure what the alternative would be.
In my mind, I was thinking he could have aimed for the buttock or shoulder or leg or just somewhere non lethal to stop her but not kill her. But from his distance that could be difficult and dangerous if he missed and shot the other girl which would be bad too.
It’s a very tragic situation that shouldn’t be taken lightly. I think it’s justified but police need a lot more work dealing with people in crisis. That is their whole job and to be honest if they cannot help a girl with a knife who is on edge because she got jumped, they should not be handling any crimes. I think there were other ways this could’ve gone.
This is a 16 year old child, who was being jumped by 4 girls. She tried doing the right thing by calling the police herself and I am sure she was fearing for her life against this foster family. Am I justifying the use of a knife? No. But I also can’t imagine what was going through her mind and truly feel like she was protecting herself. If she wanted to stab someone for real, she would’ve done it before she called the cops. It wasn’t until someone (the woman in the pink) came from behind the cop, pulled her hair from the back and I believe the stab was a jerk-reaction. Anyway, this situation is devastating all around. 4 shots was excessive. The foster care system needs to do more to protect these kids rather than shipping them off to live in toxic environments for the sake of saying they put a roof over the kids head.
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I can maybe chalk this one up to terrible timing, the cop had no time to sort things out, find out who was who, etc, he just saw a knife wielded and shot the person holding it. But my biggest question that I still haven’t gotten an answer to it that, as of earlier this month, Ohio is a “stand your ground” law state. Given that the other women showed up to instigate a fight with Bryant at the property she lives at, I’m not sure how that all works. And when your brain is in “fight or flight” mode as any of us would be in a violent situation, I know I personally wouldn’t even hear that a cop had showed up, let alone process any commands they attempted to give me. But stand your ground laws as I understand them allow you to apply lethal force to an attacker, so I’m really not sure about this one. I think there are possible racial components to this due to subconscious perception, but I don’t even want to get into that here and muddy the water, I’d rather just focus on the “stand your ground” aspect, because no one has answered that for me yet. She legally had no duty to retreat and is allowed to apply lethal force, as I understand it. So I don’t know why this is different from George Zimmerman, who harassed an unarmed teenager resulting in a physical altercation, or that Kyle Rittenhouse kid who drove across state lines, not even on his property, and defended himself against his attackers. I’d love that to be cleared up but when I’ve mentioned it I’ve been ignored or the question was dodged.
Anyone who says the shooting is not justified does not know anything about police training. There's no question that it was. Ma'Khia Bryant went after a defenseless girl with a knife and was about to stab her. The shooting is absolutely justified. It's tragic she died, but she died because of her own actions. If the officer hadn't shot her, the other girl would have either been seriously injured or killed. There is no question deadly force was justified. The officer saved a girl from either being seriously injured or worse, dead.
My degree is in Criminal Justice from Sam Houston State University in Huntsville, Texas, and one of the classes you must take is called Police Systems and Practices. In that class, and in other classes, I learned when deadly force should be used, and there is no question about it, the use of deadly force here was justified to prevent someone from either being seriously wounded or dead.
The only I would have done differently in that situation is I would have said "Drop the knife or I will shoot!" The officer didn't have much choice but to shoot. He very likely prevented a murder.
Justified, because the police officer are protecting the other girl who are being attacked. Sure there might be option of using taser but taser doesn’t mean 100% success since some person can take up to several shot to be put down. Not to mention even is she can be take down by single shot it doesn’t mean she just suddenly stand still like stone. Her body or arm might still move that can hurt the other person.
The other option that people recommend is tackling her down. That still need some second before the police officer can touch her for take down but by that time the other victim might be already receive slashes. Not to mention she is holding a knife aiming at other people live which mean she are intending for a kill. Play stupid game win stupid prize.
The distance between those two are to damn near. Don’t think warning shot or command from a police office will do a thing. The other option are shooting her leg but then again. Shooting moving leg are much more harder that huge body target. All that happened second or milliseconds. Take gamble on shooting leg but there a chance the shot missed and the girl died or just shoot her taking down her 100% who are holding knife.
Police are trained to meet lethal force, whether to themselves or others, with lethal force. They are trained not to meet lethal force with less than lethal force. The goal is to neutralize the threat. The officer had no other choice. He couldn't just allow someone to be stabbed right in front of him. He had no idea of what had unfolded before he got there.
It's sad that a life was lost, but the officer did nothing wrong.
In this case... probably yes. I’ve certainly been critical of police when people of color are killed. Too often the victim is either unarmed or running away and it wasn’t justified and you have no choice but to assume a racial motive. We’ve all seen some horrendous video footage over the past few years. If you look at that picture though, the cop literally had seconds before being confronted with this. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the woman in pink is under threat of death or great bodily harm. This is one case where I think cooler heads should prevail. I’m saddened that this happened to a beautiful 16-year old girl but she was the aggressor here and was using a deadly weapon. I just don’t see a jury deciding this was a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. The video is going to support the police narrative.
Yeah I think it was. The cop had no further context. He was just told to go there because of someone with a knife, he arrives and sees someone with a knife trying to stab someone.
Tragic? Yes.
Justified? Yes.
I am black. I support Black LIves Matter. I work on BLM issues and racial justice as an activist in my community.
This shooting was justified. The cop needs an award for saving a black woman's life.
We as black people need to take accountability and teach our children appropriate conduct with officers. When I was a child we had the "talk" where we were taught not to resist arrest. Its basic. These shootings are happening because people are acting a fool. Some shootings are not justified but THEY put themselves in that situation. Your actions increase risk and the life and death possiblity.
Nope. Because I've seen the cops take down people with knives aimed at THEM without killing them. A child did not need to be shot 4 times in the chest. Not when there are tasers. Not when she has arms and legs and other body parts that could've taken a bullet and not killed her. Not when she was the one that called because ADULTS were trying to jump her. Nope. She was failed by everyone around her and when she called for help, she was failed by them too.
Of course. So many real incidents of unjustified violence by police and the "activists" pick this one because they want the conflict, not answers. They want to justify their sick racial hatreds, not make things better.
Absolutely, just look at the photo. She's about 500 milliseconds from stabbing that woman in the jugular and killing her. Officers have an obligation to protect the innocent and he couldn't flip a coin by using a taser that's only 50% effective and even if it worked, it would've been too late. So he fired his service pistol and eliminated the threat, saving her life and God knows how many more lives he saved because y'all know she wasn't gonna stop. Anyone to attacks two people with a knife right in front of an officer isn't going to stop after killing one with the stab that you see coming right there.
I think this cop should pay with their life! Why? Simple. If more cops are hurt doing their job less people will be cops and I wanna see trash like this burn. It’s the shit cities that will burn. My small town treats their cops with respect and they get it back. We won’t have a black shooting until these fuckers flee from failing cities and come here...
In my opinion the officer was 100% justified and he couldn't have done better if he was able to pass time a quarter-of-a-second at a time.
Just like the riots this summer, people want an excuse to steal stuff and burn buildings. However, it will stop at some time, I just don't know how it's going to happen.
100% justified.
In fact, the situation is so ridiculously cut and dry that other cops on the outside looking in have pointed out how it would be an inappropriate example to use for police training because it's rarely such an easy call.
The best argument that could be made against it, would be that the angle of the shot would've risked hitting and killing the would-be stabbing victim.
While it is possible a tazer would have been a better option, I understand that in fight or flight life and death situations there is no black and white answer.
In the end, a police officer shot someone who had committed assault with a deadly weapon, and was believed to be about to commit battery or attempted murder. I feel like there is little more to consider in this scenario, the officer did their job.
The officer arrives, sees her assault one person then lunge at a second with a knife in her hand. He had no choice but to act. Not sure if any non lethal options would have stopped her. The young woman in pink would likely be dead if the officer hadn't acted how he did
I think it’s not justified she was a kid in panic being attacked by adults children do not have logical reasoning and cops are trained to take down people with knives and have tasers he had multiple nonleathal options and chose to kill a child
If you are pro life the man thing y’all try to say is abortion is meant to kill black children and obviously so are the cops these days
This little girl was killed simply due to the fact that black people are seen as more dangerous by cops and other racist
If you think it’s justified your racist
No argument needed
Unless you wanted the other girl dead, then yes.
And since the other girl didn't seem to be as a delinquent as that other one was, it's been an act of saving a person to eliminate a parasite. Two benefits in one simple pull of the trigger.
Give a medal to that man.
Nope , he could've tazed her or tackled her or pointed a gun and said drop the weapon or we’ll shoot. She would have dropped it. If she would have charged at him with the nice then yea different story
Just, she was about the stab another girl, and probably would have killed her or missed her up had the police not stepped in and saved the other girls life.. If she was angry enough to stab somebody with the police there then she would have probably stabbed the girl to death.. It was definitely justified.. Also can we talk about how the dad kicked one of the girls head in..
Why the hell are you gatekeeping this event?
Also, are you so small minded and illiterate that you don't understand the concept of a "warning shot" let alone a flesh wound?
By the officers own bodycam footage he saunters into the situation like he's collecting donuts. Not, attending a potential murder scene.
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