Yes its justified, she attempted to kill someone. People only empathize with her because she is a 16 year old girl, like 16 is an innocent number. I've had my fair share of fights, i've been also jumped multiple times, even tho i always had a pocket knife on me just in case i never felt the need to actually pull it out and stab someone. I think that she knew what she was doing, im not buying into that " sweet innocent " crap that the media talks about one bit.
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The only problem people have with this scenario is the officer's skin color. I've seen people whine and cry about cops using tasers, rubber bullets, batons, etc, as long as the cop is white.
So the solution is to keep white cops out of black situations and black neighborhoods. Let black cops handle it.
I see your point but the whole idea is to be colorblind. Unfortunately democrats since Obama make everything about race. This does not help anyone but the democrats. I work at a college and in the cafeteria the white kids sit on one side and the black kids sit on the other. Until this changes, nothing else will ever change.
Oh, poor policeman, I bet he was real scared! How about protecting the girl from her assailants without her having to resort to knives? How about controlling a suspect without smashing his airpipe with your knee? These fucking cops think they're above the laws of men and that shouldn't be accepted by people who aren't fucking morons.
1. Legally and in reality a knife is a deadly weapon, and a police officer going into a scene with deadly weapons is allowed to go straight to handgun instead of less lethal. So yes he is morally and legally justified in shooting.
2. He should have let her knife the girl. Per twitter, stabbings are part of black culture, why should White people interfere?
Absolutely justified. As a police officer you are sworn an oath to protect and serve. Therefore Makhia Bryant was advancing toward another person. You must realise that the officer had just pulled up to the scene as it unfolded right in front of him.
Don't get me wrong, there are so many examples of officers committing outright murder.
I don't believe that this said example falls into my original reply.☯️
It was justified. You are a police officer, you have to meet lethal force with lethal force. Less lethal with the same on down the use of force continuum. What would you do if someone were trying to stab you , would you want an officer or good Samaritan to hesitate or act accordingly...
Being former military, not law enforcement, if I could have tased the suspect to stop the attack I would have, but if someone’s life was in immediate danger I would have used lethal force. it is very easy to watch a video and try to second guess or justify police actions but until you are in their shoes, in that role, with innocent lives to protect you cannot say there was no need for the suspect to be shot.
Mass shooters are met with a large team of police officers specially trained for such situations, not just some random cop sent alone to the place that he didn't think was gonna get this messy.
Cops aren't some Captain America super soldiers, you get that right? Put yourself in the shoes of the girl this bitch nearly killed. Would you rather the cop just standing there, fidgeting with his fingers, politely asking the lunatic to put the knife down, or would you want him to keep you alive? Cause if someone is charging at me with a blade, I know which one I'm choosing.
It was undoubtedly justified anybody who disagrees is an idiot. I bet if they were the person that was getting attacked they’d want the cop to drop them dead. It saved her life (the victim) it was effective and it was quick.
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Isn't Ohio a stand your ground state. Seems like she was standing her ground.
They could rubber bullet her ass.
But I always say when you dial 911 it's usually because somebody dead or you want somebody dead.
Is it the cops fault no. It's the parents and thoose grown ass women. Fighting a 16 year old
Stand Your Ground is protecting yourself against an attacker. It is no longer 'SYG' when you become the aggressor. The video clearly shows that as the officer pulls up that MB becomes the aggressor in this situation. It's sad, but she should have stayed in the house after calling the police until they arrived.
After all of the fuss about what the officer could have or should have done. It would have been the best for him to stop at a donut shop on the way to the call. Then show up to do the paperwork and call the coroner!! Instead of all of the videos, why didn’t one of those people stop the fight?
The officer could have used a taser, or a non-lethal round in his gun, like a rubber bullet or something. But from what I've seen, U. S. police officers seem to be paranoid children with lethal weapons, so that won't change any time soon.
There's no such thing as an "injuring or disabling shot" that could have prevented MaKhia's attack - already in mid-swing - which is why EVERY police department in the country, and EVERY self-defense expert trains you to shoot at center mass.
The "shoot them in the leg or arm" is pure Hollywood fiction and always has been. The officer did exactly what he was trained to do in that situation - race being irrelevant - and it was the right thing to do in that horrible situation where he only had 9 seconds to evaluate the situation and prevent a murder.
MaKhia's actions of attempted murder were her own choice. She was the one attacking when the police arrived. She and she alone is responsible for the outcome.
Have you ever tried to shoot a moving knee-sized target from 25 feet? Would you literally bet your freedom on being able to make that shot the first time? Remember that you are legally responsible for any missed shots. This might be a shock to you, but most police officers shoot their gun once or twice a year - during their yearly qualification check and perhaps once to practice for it. Police are generally NOT excellent or even "practiced" shooters - that's a tiny part of their job. (I used to be a pistol instructor, and police officers were often among the worst shooters I trained).
But even if you could somehow guarantee a hit (and you absolutely cannot!), that's not going to stop someone in mid-swing with a knife from stabbing someone or slicing their throat or belly - either of which would likely be fatal. It might keep them from walking away, but it wouldn't prevent the deadly assault, and THAT was the goal of taking those shots: to prevent the deadly assault. And it worked.
I realize that you don't have any training, but you should get some. It would be very eye-opening for you.
Yes, I have watched to videos. No one would have had time to do anything else without others getting hurt. Is it regretable? Hell ya. Unavoidable? Ya if your ok with more people getting hurt first. Justifiable/justified? Yes.
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Yes its justified, she attempted to kill someone. People only empathize with her because she is a 16 year old girl, like 16 is an innocent number. I've had my fair share of fights, i've been also jumped multiple times, even tho i always had a pocket knife on me just in case i never felt the need to actually pull it out and stab someone. I think that she knew what she was doing, im not buying into that " sweet innocent " crap that the media talks about one bit.
The only problem people have with this scenario is the officer's skin color. I've seen people whine and cry about cops using tasers, rubber bullets, batons, etc, as long as the cop is white.
So the solution is to keep white cops out of black situations and black neighborhoods. Let black cops handle it.
I see your point but the whole idea is to be colorblind. Unfortunately democrats since Obama make everything about race. This does not help anyone but the democrats.
I work at a college and in the cafeteria the white kids sit on one side and the black kids sit on the other. Until this changes, nothing else will ever change.
Yes, I think the officer was justified. But it’s sad that he had to make that split second choice.
any death is tragic but at least he saved a young girls life
@The_Sal exactly
Oh, poor policeman, I bet he was real scared! How about protecting the girl from her assailants without her having to resort to knives? How about controlling a suspect without smashing his airpipe with your knee? These fucking cops think they're above the laws of men and that shouldn't be accepted by people who aren't fucking morons.
You didn't watch the video?
@discomfortzone
I hope you never have to dial 911.
1. Legally and in reality a knife is a deadly weapon, and a police officer going into a scene with deadly weapons is allowed to go straight to handgun instead of less lethal. So yes he is morally and legally justified in shooting.
2. He should have let her knife the girl. Per twitter, stabbings are part of black culture, why should White people interfere?
Absolutely justified.
As a police officer you are sworn an oath to protect and serve. Therefore Makhia Bryant was advancing toward another person. You must realise that the officer had just pulled up to the scene as it unfolded right in front of him.
Don't get me wrong, there are so many examples of officers committing outright murder.
I don't believe that this said example falls into my original reply.☯️
It was justified.
You are a police officer, you have to meet lethal force with lethal force. Less lethal with the same on down the use of force continuum.
What would you do if someone were trying to stab you , would you want an officer or good Samaritan to hesitate or act accordingly...
I don't think the officer had any other options. It's tragic and sad she died.
Being former military, not law enforcement, if I could have tased the suspect to stop the attack I would have, but if someone’s life was in immediate danger I would have used lethal force. it is very easy to watch a video and try to second guess or justify police actions but until you are in their shoes, in that role, with innocent lives to protect you cannot say there was no need for the suspect to be shot.
Why are the police so quick to shoot and kill this teen with a knife but apprehend mass shooters alive?
Because they usually corner the mass shooter who gives up, whilst this "child" was slashing away, in close quarter combat. That's why.
Mass shooters are met with a large team of police officers specially trained for such situations, not just some random cop sent alone to the place that he didn't think was gonna get this messy.
@Curmudgeon I’m pretty sure there’s a taser for that or a baton or pepper spray. I don’t agree with using lethal force first.
@Sargentcaptain All cops having training for all types of situations or they shouldn’t respond to the call.
Tasers are dogshit, and paper spray doesn't work that way.
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Cops aren't some Captain America super soldiers, you get that right?
Put yourself in the shoes of the girl this bitch nearly killed. Would you rather the cop just standing there, fidgeting with his fingers, politely asking the lunatic to put the knife down, or would you want him to keep you alive? Cause if someone is charging at me with a blade, I know which one I'm choosing.
You have no idea how dangerous a knife is in close quarters. This was not at a distance.
It was undoubtedly justified anybody who disagrees is an idiot. I bet if they were the person that was getting attacked they’d want the cop to drop them dead. It saved her life (the victim) it was effective and it was quick.
Isn't Ohio a stand your ground state. Seems like she was standing her ground.
They could rubber bullet her ass.
But I always say when you dial 911 it's usually because somebody dead or you want somebody dead.
Is it the cops fault no. It's the parents and thoose grown ass women. Fighting a 16 year old
Watch the video.
Don't care enough to. She dead nobody gonna get charged it was a clean kill.
She was a threat
Rubber bullets aren’t going to stop someone in full swing with a knife
I disagree we can leave it at that
Stand Your Ground is protecting yourself against an attacker. It is no longer 'SYG' when you become the aggressor. The video clearly shows that as the officer pulls up that MB becomes the aggressor in this situation.
It's sad, but she should have stayed in the house after calling the police until they arrived.
After all of the fuss about what the officer could have or should have done.
It would have been the best for him to stop at a donut shop on the way to the call. Then show up to do the paperwork and call the coroner!!
Instead of all of the videos, why didn’t one of those people stop the fight?
Because the onlookers were to busy recording what was happening. I've seen that before with people fighting. Its pathetic.
Absolutely. Saved many lives that could've been ended by her.
The officer could have used a taser, or a non-lethal round in his gun, like a rubber bullet or something. But from what I've seen, U. S. police officers seem to be paranoid children with lethal weapons, so that won't change any time soon.
Does it matter?
If the cop would not have shot - then the other girl would have gotten it.
Seeing how large the target is, it could have been better though, to shoot her in the arse.
But I wasn't there... shit happens.
No. Only a black cop would be justified in killing her in that situation.
A white cop would have been better off to just sit back and let it happen. Maybe he could just purposely shoot the car or something instead.
Perhaps not the death, an injuring or disabling shot would have sufficed, but the girl had it coming so can’t say I feel bad for her
There's no such thing as an "injuring or disabling shot" that could have prevented MaKhia's attack - already in mid-swing - which is why EVERY police department in the country, and EVERY self-defense expert trains you to shoot at center mass.
The "shoot them in the leg or arm" is pure Hollywood fiction and always has been. The officer did exactly what he was trained to do in that situation - race being irrelevant - and it was the right thing to do in that horrible situation where he only had 9 seconds to evaluate the situation and prevent a murder.
MaKhia's actions of attempted murder were her own choice. She was the one attacking when the police arrived. She and she alone is responsible for the outcome.
You forgetting that humans have knees?
Have you ever tried to shoot a moving knee-sized target from 25 feet? Would you literally bet your freedom on being able to make that shot the first time? Remember that you are legally responsible for any missed shots. This might be a shock to you, but most police officers shoot their gun once or twice a year - during their yearly qualification check and perhaps once to practice for it. Police are generally NOT excellent or even "practiced" shooters - that's a tiny part of their job. (I used to be a pistol instructor, and police officers were often among the worst shooters I trained).
But even if you could somehow guarantee a hit (and you absolutely cannot!), that's not going to stop someone in mid-swing with a knife from stabbing someone or slicing their throat or belly - either of which would likely be fatal. It might keep them from walking away, but it wouldn't prevent the deadly assault, and THAT was the goal of taking those shots: to prevent the deadly assault. And it worked.
I realize that you don't have any training, but you should get some. It would be very eye-opening for you.
“Attempt”... that’s all
Yes, I have watched to videos. No one would have had time to do anything else without others getting hurt. Is it regretable? Hell ya. Unavoidable? Ya if your ok with more people getting hurt first. Justifiable/justified? Yes.
Of course it was justified!
The headline should have read:
"Hero Cop Saves Life of Black Woman!"
But of course the Democrats can't let truth get in the way of the phony "institutional racism" narrative.