Chasing women, and why it always leads to Rejection

[JohnBhoy94]

Hey guys JohnBhoy94 here bringing you a myTake on attraction and flirting. I hope this assists as many guys who are having troubles flirting with girls/women as possible and helps them avoid rejection and blow offs.

Films and how they distort social reality.

You know that film about a girl this guy really, really wants? The one where he goes to her house with a bunch of roses a sings at her window whilst she cries and begs him to whisk her away in the moonlight? Well the reality check is: this never happens and women hate it.

Sure women love these love stories and fantasise about it, but in reality when a guy is this forward, it turns her off and she ends up rejecting him.

The very people who create these films are living their very own fantasises!

What you really should be doing, as a man.

It's simple really: The woman should be chasing you

It's a fact that women are more interested/attracted to men who's intentions are unclear.

Ever been in that scenario when you're chatting up a girl and chasing her and she's blowing you off and acting cold, but as soon as you walk away she's back to chasing you?

So, you meet a girl, you get her number and she seems interested, what do you do?

First off you wait a few days. Now either, depending on true level of interest, she'll get in contact with you (i.e put herself in your orbit) OR you can send a little text asking her out.

And that's it.

After the first date, you let HER contact YOU and when she does you ASSUME she wants to meet up and you set up a second date, and then so on and so forth.

What if she has already rejected me and/or friendzoned me?

If you've been rejected or friendzoned you NEED to let the girl know that you DO NOT accept their unilateral decision.

If they say "Can we just be friends?" you tell them that you don't want to, that you're attracted to them and want a relationship. If they deny you again you tell them this "Well that's a shame. Tell you what, get in contact with me if you change your mind. See you around!".

If she contacts you ASSUME she wants to see YOU and make a date.

An important thing to know is: A woman will NEVER put herself in a situation where a rejection is possible. People who think that a woman will literally call you and tell you she wants to drop her pants are deluded and know absolutely jack shit about women.

Another important thing is: NEVER get advice from people who have little to no experience in relationships. Listen to people like me who do!

Hope you enjoyed the MyTake. Please ask questions!

[becca123]

I agree with romanticized films putting unrealistic expectations in people's minds.

I agree with choosing NOT to be friendzoned and just moving on.

The rest, well not so much.

If a girl is shallow and egotistical, She will chase when a guy withdraws. Sad fact is, with this kind of girl, as soon as she "wins," she is on to the next challenge.

Mature girls will meet a guy halfway. If you call or text, she will respond IF she is interested. After a few times of the guy initiating contact, she will feel more confident to do the same. Don't play games with a straightforward girl, she won't chase. She will assume you are not interested. Once we think you aren't interested, we move on and you are in the friendzone. A mature, secure girl won't go back.

Your success or failure has nothing to do with games. If a girl likes you, she likes you. If she doesn't, she will reject you no matter what you do or what games you play. It won't matter. You cannot make someone want to be with you if they don't.

I suggest that the Take Owner must succeed despite the games because he brings something to the table that others don't, whether he knows it or not. He wins DESPITE the games, not because of them.

I am genuinely sorry to those guys who can't seem to win. I can only say, girls aren't all evil and shallow, I promise you, though it must feel that they are. Keep on trying, you WILL find someone who wants to be with you, I promise.

[dudegrt09]

thank you for this valuable insight. So you think guys should be dominant and direct when approaching women and displaying their interest towards them?

[becca123]

Absolutely, in my very humble opinion. The
more time that passes without making your intentions clear or taking action, the faster we lose interest, as a rule and of course, not all women are the same.

Think of how often you text a girl. Things are going great... for a while. You don't ask her out, and she starts to fade. Inaction has led to disinterest. I've done it myself on dating sites. A connection is made but it only leads to endless texting /messages /calls with no dates made. I'm out.

Is it fair? No, of course not. Puts guys at a serious disadvantage. I'm not saying it's right or fair, only that for a large majority of girls it just IS the way it is. Yes, girls can make the move.. chances are, they won't.

If a girl isn't interested, though, nothing will change that. No amount of games will magically make her interested. The problem I see most often is guys chasing girls who simply aren't interested to begin with. Sadly, you can't make someone want you.

[dudegrt09]

@becca123 so do you think that tricks, conversation techniques and the game that is taught by dating gurus and pick up artists is all bullshit and completely unnecessary?

[becca123]

Girls read this stuff and laugh about it. Same as men do for all the "dating advice " girls are given.

Some things work on some girls, I guess, but by and large if she is a mature, self confident girl, games won't work. Games may work for egotistical girls, and for girls full of insecurity.

This is all based on personal experience, experiences of girls I know, girls I work with, articles I have read, and responses from girls here and other forums. It seems that normal well adjusted girls/women don't like games and will consider the guy uninterested; they will move on.

[dudegrt09]

but isn't it true that girls most of the times don't know what they actually want for e. g. they say they want a nice guy and then reject the guy when they find him to be too nice. I have received very bad dating advise from girls in the past. So should their responses be trusted?

[becca123]

We all want a nice guy. The confusion comes when we aren't interested in a particular nice guy. Being nice alone may not be enough for the girl you like to like you back. Saying a guy is too nice may just be a way of letting a guy down easily.

Nice guy also is different from pushover. There needs to be a balance.

There are some girls who seem to only be happy when a guy treats them like crap, but these aren't well adjusted women. I humbly submit that a girl who wants to be treated lije garbage isn't worth your time.

[Rogue2]

Forgive me but I'm just curious. You've given some valuable insight but what's your take on a girl that suddenly ignores a guy that was good to her and genuinely cared about her for little to no reason?

[JohnBhoy94]

You likely put her on a pedestal @Rogue2 ... you were effectively a lapdog until she got bored and felt pestered so stopped contacting you.

[Rogue2]

I can appreciate the take but it's mind boggling as is the dating world. It's either do this or do that.

[Anonymous]

Aw that is awful advice
No one listen to this garbage ^
wait a few days my foot Ill call her that evening or the next day. If anyone waits a few days they think that you have forgotten about them and will reject you for just waiting to call them for to long

[crystalt70]

EXACTLY!!!

[crystalt70]

Only insecure girls fall for the advice he has given.

[DaddyRollingStone]

So, like 90% of them then, right?

[Phantom-menace1234]

I don't think either sex should chase, if you are trying too hard too make someone like you, then there is something wrong. You either like him or her or you don't. Any relationship should just happen naturally without any effort.

I have always found the relationships that I have tried really hard to make them work, have always gone south. The relationships that have just happened naturally, have to lasted 10 years+ and still going.

I am sorry just cause you have had relationships, doesn't make you an expert on what every man or women should do in terms of dating or relationships. That's is bull, cause everyone has different preferences how to be treated.

The problem is, people are make the whole dating and relationship thing to complicated, and making women and men to some be sort of aliens, or too generalized. Just get a grip people, Some women like big dicks, some women like rich men, some like good looking, some fitness hunks etc. Some men like fat women, some like skinny, some like rich women etc. Sorry but that's the it always has being, nothing has changed.

Stop worrying what either sex wants from you, cause if that person really wants you and you want them, you both will make it happen. You just won't be able to keep away from each other.

I am sorry I am just not a fan of these types articles, because everyone is different. Usually the solutions to the problems in these types of articles, is too generalized.

[TampaBuc86]

Totally agree!!

[TampaBuc86]

The writer here is basically saying everyone's duty is to continusly play hard to get and to NEVER reveal to each other what you TRULY feel and want. That's bogus and wants wrong with so much stuff in the world today. Because people can't be direct and assertive anymore. It's cowardly to me

[Phantom-menace1234]

That's its tampa. I am on the same level as you. very true tampa.

[bloodmountain1990]

Yeah saying that the women always has to chase you is a bit extreme. It takes effort from both. But as far as not being direct and assertive, it is a shame but I think it's because some people who might be looking for something serious are worried they might scare the other person off or appear overly interested if they reveal their true feelings and what they want early on. Sad but true.

[Phantom-menace1234]

Bloodmountain, You are right. But people shouldn't be telling what they want, like wanting a serious relationship or marriage in the dating stages. The problem people are making is, people are making dating already relationship when its not. Dating should be fun and casual, and its about getting know someone. Its not about getting prepared to be married or having anything serious yet, its. people should take things one step at a time, first get passed the dating stage, then talk about the forming a relationship, then when have pass those 2 stages, then start talking more seriously,. No one should be talking about marriage or serious relationship in the dating stages, its too much too soon. Its no different to saying you can't swim, then someone says to you, lets start going swimming in the sea. That would really really scare you. Taking things one step at a time, it much easier for your brain to handle something, and you take in your stride. It won't like a big weight on your shoulder

[Phantom-menace1234]

Dating shouldn't even be about sex. People having sex, when dating is absolutely stupid. You should only be having sex, when you have developed something more serious with that person.

[HookingSwan]

I completely agred with the opinion owner. Dating should b light, but straightforward and it shouldn't b something forced. If its meant to b, it will happen. Also, you couldnt be more right in sayiing that sex should b reserved for the later stages of the relationship. At least, when the guy and girl have already formed a bond somewhat solid and gotten to know each other. And probably after already having overcomed the I Love You stage. Sex is really a big deal even if people want to make light of it these days.

[ImSoSozzled]

I respectfully disagree with most of this, and I tend to think you don't have as much experience in relationships as you want us to believe (... why would you even add that last bit?). You sound like I did back when I first started university and didn't have much experience with girls but had done a ton of online research.

Rejection is not a thing to be avoided as you say, and the fact that you are advising guys to avert it is the main reason I don't think you're as experienced as you claim. If a girl rejects you, you're not compatible. This is good to know as you can forget her and move on to the next girl. It's only a bad thing to guys with fragile egos who don't get rejected much and can't handle the fact that a girl doesn't like them.

If you're upfront with every girl you meet and tell her you're attracted to her, you'll have much more success than if you just "play it cool" and never put yourself out there. Will that turn off some girls that don't like guys that are that forward? Definitely, but do you really want to be with the girl you described that only wants what she can't have? Or do you want to be with a girl that doesn't play games, knows what she wants, and appreciates that you know what you want as well and have the balls to express it?

All of that said, I do agree with what you said about the friend-zone. Way too many guys just accepting that shit and waiting for something that will never happen.

[crystalt70]

I agree and want to say that if you only want a woman who thinks she can't have you, prepare to be burned. Once she catches you, she will move on since it's no longer fun. She will get bored and turn to the next challenge.

[inamorata]

Women don't chase with genuine interest. Women flirt with genuine interest and hope you'll respond (it's a security thing, that you won't pump and dump). But when women chase after what you describe, it's an ego thing. If you play bait and switch she's going after you because of her ego. As soon as she gets a response (affirmation she's really wanted), she's out. You fed her ego, she never fucking liked you and you just wasted your time. And if you continue to deny her ego food indefinitely, you're just setting yourself up for drama. (will get you laid with some of them tho)

But this waiting and overall game playing is setting up a horde of manginas for a life of solitude.

And you don't have to wait few days. A guy tried to pull that on me. It's so fucking transparent. It annoyed the shit out of me. I thought he wasn't interested and let go, and then he called me. All I could think is what kind of a pussy is he to play mind games like a woman. But he had other good qualities and must be mislead, so I decided not to blow him off. But it was fucking annoying and so transparent that I remembered it like a giant minus.
He did this waiting, I'm cool and you're just an option, mind game thing 2 more times and the second time I cut all contact. It was like dealing with a fucking woman! I'm getting angry now just remembering that fag! >.<

Yeah you'll draw in Justin Bieber fan-teen-drama girls. But if you want a normal girl with a good head on her shoulders who is interested in a genuine relationship, don't act like a fag.

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

Why are you still on here? ALL you do is troll lol.

[Floyd790]

Wrong wrong wrong Girls do chase with genuine interest.

[JohnBhoy94]

"Chasing" in itself is a very submissive and feminine trait. Most women want to be and act feminine, therefore like to chase.

[Aud_Queen]

"It's a fact that women are more interested/attracted to men who's intentions are unclear."

This terrible advice. And it's not a fact... if your intentions are unclear, she won't know WHAT you want from her. When a guy is unclear with his intentions it makes me think he doesn't know what he wants or what he wants isn't me.

"Ever been in that scenario when you're chatting up a girl and chasing her and she's blowing you off and acting cold, but as soon as you walk away she's back to chasing you? "

Please. She comes back because she wants the attention again, not because she suddenly realize what an amazing guy he is. Notice the girl NEVER DATES THE GUY. She’s just trying to get him bavk where he was. ADMIRING HER.

"So, you meet a girl, you get her number and she seems interested, what do you do?"

This part isn't bad. As long as the girl is confident and not insecure.

I agree with you on your approach to the friendzone though. He doesn't have to be friends with her.

"An important thing to know is: A woman will NEVER put herself in a situation where a rejection is possible." Bullshizz...

"NEVER get advice from people who have little to no experience in relationships. Listen to people like me who do!"

... why? What makes you an expert on females?

[JohnBhoy94]

It's PSYCHOSOCIAL fact... you can argue against it as much as you want, but it goes HAND IN HAND with the "people want what they can't get" statement I've seen hundreds of times on relationship forums.

I've got plenty of experience - highly likely more experience than you have had.

Let me break this down: " if your intentions are unclear, she won't know WHAT you want from her. When a guy is unclear with his intentions it makes me think he doesn't know what he wants or what he wants isn't me. " ... When a guys feelings for a girl are unclear, she will question where she stands with him. If said girl is NOT attracted/interested in him she will NOT reach out or set herself up in the guy's orbit (which girls do when they are).

[JohnBhoy94]

"Please. She comes back because she wants the attention again, not because she suddenly realize what an amazing guy he is. Notice the girl NEVER DATES THE GUY. She’s just trying to get him bavk where he was. ADMIRING HER." ... if she comes back, whatever the fuck it's for, you give her a "take it or leave it" plan. You ASSUME she wants to see you and tell her "Hey! It's great to hear from you. I'd love to see you, when are you free?". If she refuses, you RETRACT the offer and move on.

A girl who LIKES a guy will actively help him. A girl who LIKES a guy will actively but herself in his orbit.

[Aud_Queen]

It's PSYCHOSOCIAL fact... you can argue against it as much as you want, but it goes HAND IN HAND with the "people want what they can't get" statement I've seen hundreds of times on relationship forums.

Relationship forums aren't hardcore facts... And yeas, People wanting what they can't get IS TRU. But you advice is still shit.

"When a guys feelings for a girl are unclear, she will question where she stands with him."

What do you mean by unclear? Is he playing hot or cold pretenting like he's not obsessed with her or is he acting normal, and going on with his life? That makes a big difference.

"she comes back, whatever the fuck it's for, you give her a "take it or leave it" plan. You ASSUME she wants to see you and tell her "Hey! It's great to hear from you. I'd love to see you, when are you free?". If she refuses, you RETRACT the offer and move on."

Ok.

A girl who LIKES a guy will actively help him. A girl who LIKES a guy will actively but herself in his orbit.

THIS is true.

[JohnBhoy94]

OK seems like we're getting somewhere...

[Random_chick_2384]

No no no no no no no and no!
I loved to be chased and a guy to be straight forward. The only reason this doesn't work most of the time is because the girl does not like the guy back. If the girl liked the guy or thought of dating him before she will enjoy beig chased. Being chased makes girls feel loved and wanted. Playing hard to get or being sneaky makes us lose interest. I will never chase a guy. Maybe coming to her house in the middle of the night with roses is a little creepy but walking up to her and saying want to hangout somtime or ask for her number.

[AditVats]

I'd like to have your opinion ten years later. You have just started your life.

[Random_chick_2384]

@AditVats nah I'm pretty sure I'll still like attention and getting chased and according to all my 5 upvoted aleast 5 other women likes being chased too.

[AditVats]

"Being chased makes girls feel wanted and loved". Are you sure it isn't because you might be getting ego boosts? Your this line and your reply, you may google " Rationalisation " for my answer.

[Random_chick_2384]

@AditVats no I'm pretty sure I feel wanted when someone chases me and I get an ego boost. But what does it matter? Most girls loved to be chased. End of story. What else do you want? Me to say I'm sorry I lied we hate being chased and this take is competely right?

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

@Random_chick_2384 Women my age don't like to be chased.

[Random_chick_2384]

@CincinnatiRedsfan I don't know about your age bc I don't hangout many people in that age range but I know all the girls I know loved to be chased

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

@Random_chick_2384 That makes sense, since teenage girls like to feel wanted. By the time they hit my age, they develop these anti-male attitudes and think every guy is a "creeper."

[Random_chick_2384]

@CincinnatiRedsfan yeah I would understand that.

[love2run13]

Yea this is pretty terrible advice lol I would LOVE a guy to chase me and show me he is interested! :D IF he is a guy that I am into, I will happily reciprocate as much as he does and take things farther with him. However, the first step to attracting me personally is for him to step up to the plate and show me he is interested in me and ask me out and give me proper attention and not be an immature dumbass and play stupid waiting games and faining interest, that is just out right stupid and dishonest with your intensions! lol

[JohnBhoy94]

Nah you wouldn't... I can bet that after months of having a guy persistently contact you every day you would get bored.

[love2run13]

No lol not if I REALLY liked him! I simply stop contacting guys who I am not interested in and I know what I want.
I say this:
Let your intensions and level of interest be known from the start
Keep the communication regular

[JohnBhoy94]

Besides, this take is for men.

[crystalt70]

Ummm... no. I prefer straightforward. I don't do games, nor do I chase men. He either likes me or he doesn't. Simple as that. Elementary school letters asking, "Do you like me? Yes or No. Check one." is better advice. If I go out with a guy and I don't hear from him within a respectful and reasonable amount of time, I move on. If I message or call a guy who doesn't get back to me in a reasonable amount of time, I give him a little chance because I know sh*t happens. BUT, if there's no legitimate reason other than he was too lax in his response and/or it shows to be habitual, I move on. I don't have time for games. No, I don't need attention. I honestly can't stand an overly clingy guy. I like my space. I do deserve consideration, though. Playing chase is a kid's game. Adults meet in the middle.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

i really wish the real world was like that. do you like me? check yes or no lol

[crystalt70]

Right? It would make things so much easier. I wonder if I should try it. 😄

[love2run13]

YES, best comment on here. This should always be the key advice to men in my opinion: let your intensions and level of interest be known from the start, and keep the communication going! This saves SO much drama and disappointment and unneeded investment too! :)

[crystalt70]

Oops, I forgot to tag you in my comment @Bonnie12I27I12.

@love2run13 Exactly! No need for guessing games. That creates too much drama and I don't have the patience to sit around waiting for some guy. If he shows such little inattentiveness and wants to play games, he's not worth the time or effort. The way a man treats you in the beginning sets the stage for how he will treat you throughout a relationship.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

while this take is kind of true i honestly wouldn't keep chasing a man. if i like you sure i'll text you a couple times but if im the one thats starting the convo every single time then nope sorry. i'll find someone else. quite a few men are interested in me and i wouldn't waste my time trying to chase a guy. it shouldn't be about chasing. if 2 people like each other then they should just talk. if a woman rejects you and pulls the "can we be friends" card she doesn't really even want to be friends. she really doesn't care about you so if you just say goodbye then she won't even give it a second thought much less chase after you.

[crystalt70]

Yes! Women don't want to be the only ones putting forth effort. Eventually, we will walk away. Some quicker than others.

[Glue-Sniffer]

This is awful advice! Have you ever actually dated anyone above the age of 20?
If a guy would go on a date with me and then not contact me withing the following 3-4 days, I'd just forget about him even if i had a great time with him! I have no time for these kind if mind games... And i don't want to date a guy who is this pathetic and can't get anyome without playing mind games on them!

[JohnBhoy94]

Yes I have.

[thecd1979]

I spent a lot more time then I should have when I was a younger man chasing after women which more than often lead to disappointment and frustration. I see now that I should have been more focused on my goals and plans for my life and doing the things I loved on my leisure time instead. I will tell anyone to focus on those things and that chasing after women is not a hobby and is often going to end in frustration. The best thing to do is to stop trying. They will come to you once you are focused on your life and plans.

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

This is actually one MyTake I agree with.

I've been rejected by every girl, which is over 100 now, and it's mainly due to the fact I'm not wealthy or privileged. I've also noticed the more I chase, the more girls ignore you and think you're a "creeper." I'm not just using personal experience either, it seems most guys I know who chase women aren't successful either. Of course, I'm speaking on the behalf of: Women in the United States under the age of 30. I have noticed women over 30 don't mind a guy approaching them "creepy" anymore (since they're a little more desperate on average.) However, this is spot in with women in their 20's.

By the way, don't listen to most people on GAG with relationship advice, ESPECIALLY the female GAGers. Most women here on GAG think there is no such thing as a superficial woman and many of the men think women are "evil." Trust me, you're spot on with this MyTake.

[fearful]

Er I hope guys don't take your advice! As a girl if there was a guy I really liked Id love for him to chase me. I admire guys who are persistent in getting what they want as long as its what I want to. Even if I don't end up liking the guy Id admire him for being bold and persistent. Ultimately it all boils down to the fact that you can do just so little you can actually do to make some one like you. If they don't the mature thing would be to just move on.

[singlebee]

Of course not!! Hahaa 😜

[Anonymous]

This is true but to an extent and what it comes down to the individual, their level interest and how they pursue/like to be pursued and mind games if they play any. Not everyone is the same.

That being said, I've found that girls I have less interest in have more interest in me and vice versa and I think is part of the reason i haven't been in a relationship yet. Usually the ones I've wanted a relationship with didn't want one with me and the ones who did want a relationship with me, I didn't like back. I'm not just gonna settle for someone just for the sake of being in a relationship. I mean I'm not the pickiest guy out there but I still have standards.

[JohnBhoy94]

Girls know exactly where they stand with you. They know whether they have more interest in you or you have more interest in them. When you invest to much in girl you push her away, when you invest to little in a girl she'll come running towards you complaining until a point where she gives up and walks away.

As I said in the bulk: Women are attracted to men who's intentions are unclear.

[Opinion Owner]

What about the ones who lead you on and then as soon as you like them back, they act like you're a psycho or clingy or eons who case you and even if you show a little interest back, they back off and act like you have issues?

[JohnBhoy94]

Those kind of girls are the ones you should avoid like the plague! Soon as a girl blows you off a couple times and doesn't counter offer you move on COMPLETELY.

Like I've said a girl who GENUINELY likes you will make it easy for you, i. e if she's busy on a Thursday evening she'll counter offer and say she can do Saturday instead.

As soon as you understand women and the way they flirt and the way the show they're interested, you'll feel a hell lot better.

I recommend you read How to be a 3% man by Coach Corey Wayne... I've read his book twice over, and his stuff is MIND BLOWING!

[Opinion Owner]

True but those girls can be hard to spot at first. I've also had other eons talk to me for awhile, ignore me out of the blue and then come back a few months later. Those are the ones to be very skeptical about because they're either on the rebound, looking for attention, or both.

My issue is, I've gotten a lot of dates from dating sites but most have just been first dates only. It's like well meet up, hit it off and then they'll say thanks for drinks, food, etc. I had a good time, let's meet up and then slowly they lose interest and it becomes 100% my effort, 0% their effort until they eventually ignore me.

My point is yeah were supposed to initiate it but where do we get to a point where the chasing game ends and you feel it's the time to be exclusive? Not that I'm rushing a relationship by any means but they have seemed to end before they really started if that makes sense. I don't know if it's me having a personality flaw or they're just playing the field too and found someone

[Opinion Owner]

Better

[Opinion Owner]

I'll read that book by the way

[JenJen1992]

This is bull. Everyone is different. I love when I know a guy really likes me. Obviously there is a line between sweet and creepy. No, don't show up at her door seranading her when you just met two days ago, but always say hi when you see her, compliment her (but not too much! And be honest), and just show her that you care. Thats really all it takes. If she's interested then it'll happen, if not then accept it. Rejection is a part of life people!! If you want to avoid it that badly, might as well lock yourself in your house and never come out.

[LightsOff]

"A woman will NEVER put herself in a situation where a rejection is possible."
I think you should read my myTake, lol. www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a10786-rejection-shouldn-t-be-a-big-deal-here-s-why

[Alex_31]

well that is good what you said well i have been chasing and know over 50 girls and got rejected because of how i look, how little money i make, i don't drive/have a car, i only have one left hand due to an accident back in 1998, i live too far away from her "Beirut Lebanon", i get rejected because of my stinking religion and religion laws and rules but am not too religious tho and i don't practice, and i get rejected even from a girl who has a disability because of the way i think things, am a 31 year old single Muslim "Sunni" guy i have no kids i got a small business and i live in Lebanon am looking for a nice honest decent faithful understanding independent girl who would love and want me no matter what so if you are out there maybe get in touch chat get to know each other then see how things go who knows i might be the one and you might be the one here is my whatsapp/viber [phone].. happy Questioning and answering :)

[Jjbunch]

Am I the only one who has had mutual attraction with others that lead to no rejection? If she doesn't like you, its gonna be hard to convince her otherwise. Just try to be a cool guy people will want to hang out with, no need to play these gmes.

[genuinlysensitive]

"Ever been in that scenario when you're chatting up a girl and chasing her and she's blowing you off and acting cold, but as soon as you walk away she's back to chasing you?"

NEVER! Literally never.

[thedevilwithin]

I agree with the majority of what you said, except the women should be chasing you part. Just because i see so many posts on GAG and just hear a lot of men complaining about how women should approach more (since they clearly aren't in the habit of doing so already) so i just don't think the whole women should be chasing thing is accurate with the reality of what usually happens.
Maybe you mean something else, perhaps if you provided examples of what constitutes chasing behavior?

[JohnBhoy94]

Imagine a relationship is a see-saw and, at the start of the relationship, the man and woman are found in the middle - they are at equilibrium (the Honeymoon stage if you will).

The months roll on and both parties begin to discover each other: their strengths and their flaws.

Now imagine the man begins to chase the women in the sense that he's pushing her for more affection, sending her loads of texts (think 3 or 4 texts in a row - "Why aren't you answering?" "Did I do something wrong?") ... the man moves closer to the woman who is gradually pulling away because of the pressure.

The see-saw tips over.

Now the more a man chases, the more the see-saw rocks... to a point where the woman reaches the end: the break up.

NOW, if the man doesn't chase (as much), if he lets the relationship evolve NATURALLY, the woman will start to feel more attract to him. As long as he doesn't become complacent and boring.

If he takes her out on a date maybe 2 - 3 times every week or so, if he

[JohnBhoy94]

treats her well and satisfies her needs, both emotionally and physically... then there is NO need to chase, NO need to go overboard with affection.

That's where "Women are more attracted to men who's intentions are unclear" comes in.

Usually when something goes wrong, when the woman feels hurt because of something the guy did... instead of talking it out and LISTENING to her, the guy will usually get really agitated and somewhat frustrated. He'll constantly nag her until the point she asks for space.

Men are LOGICAL, women are EMOTIONAL... as soon as a girl goes "sour" us men think up logical reasons as to why she's mad. So we constantly over think and over analyse. When it's so much easier just to listen to her and nod in a agreement.

I hope this makes sense... bit of a rant haha!

[thedevilwithin]

No that made total sense! Really insightful too, i would definitely agree with what you've said. I was thinking you were talking more about that initial approach like before you've even had a date, so i was getting confused. But yeah, more guys should listen to this, too many come on way to strong. But to be fair, there are girls who are way to clingy at first too, who could probably use the same advice.

[ObscuredBeyond]

This applies to immature women. Mature women with confidence want a confident man. They just don't want one that's desperate.

[peachblossomluck]

Exactly!

[becca123]

What @ObscuredBeyond said.