Does body fat and outspokenness have a direct correlation?

[Anonymous]

Over the years I noticed that overweight people often seem more extroverted, loud and outspoken.

I was sitting on the light rail train today and a heavy, very ugly girl a few seats up from me pretty much YELLED into her cell phone about a supposed date she went on with a french model (sure...was this guy blind?). To put it plainly this girl was so unattractive that looking at her directly for 5 seconds made me feel nauseated. She kept telling her friend about her make believe date that they french guy said she was TOO american. Well that part was believable since she pretty much took up two seats and was so loud that people OUTSIDE of the train could probably hear her.

I couldn't wait to get off the train.

Anyway my point is this. I noticed overweight people, especially heavy women TALK A LOT MORE. My guess it's there way of getting more attention cause sorry they are not exactly getting otherwise (this girl's story almost sounded canned).

I even took a picture of her. Look here link

For you heavy people out there (especially ladies) being boisterous does NOT help your cause. Invest more time on treadmill and less time blabbing into your cell phone.

So do you agree with me that fat people are louder?

I'm sure some of you ladies are going to blast me on this for making fun of fat people. Go right ahead. I'm just telling the truth.

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Here's my approach with dealing with overweight folks. If they are decent, hardworking and polite people I have no problem with them. Sure I think I think they are in denial about a few things. However I had an old boss who was morbidly obese

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and so insecure about it that he took every opportunity to MAKE FUN and INSULT other people for THERE problems. It made him feel better about being a big fat tub of lard. Now if he was a nice person I WOULD NEVER say that.

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This girl was extremely RUDE and IMPOLITE to broadcast as loud as she could her private life on the train. It's like she WANTS attention...even if it's negative. Do I feel sorry for her? Would you feel sorry for her?

[WaitingAtTheDoor]

Well, I can believe that the person you took a picture of was loud and preceivably obnoxious.

But I don't believe that overweight people (in the United States) are anymore loud and obnoxious as people who are not overweight.

There are a number of girls (since that is the gender that has been singled out) who are not overweight, (but I would not say in shape, just mention running) who are completely alienating in their phone conversations on my campus, that include talk about periods, yeast infections, and even trips to the clinic for things other than the flu.

If that's not worse, the open conversation non-overweight girls in my region, not just on campus, have in public about multiple partners in a given work week is not only reprehensible, but eye-opening about the lack of any ethics that girls (and if we were talking them, guys) have about their personal lives, but also what they're willing to say outloud.

I call it the Facebook Effect. If you can post to 400 plus friends and their friends about your poor decisions on a Friday and Saturday night, what's to stop you from doing it on a cell phone in a public scenario, fat or not?

[Asker]

I had no escape from the cell phone announcement yesterday. There was no option to read a "fb post". This girl wanted to tell the WHOLE WORLD about how she turned down a some french models advances....or whatever.

[WaitingAtTheDoor]

Right, I wasn't saying the entire scenario is like Facebook, I am saying that from the perspective of the person talking loud it's the effect of social media.

And your complaint in the comments points out one more thing. If it was a non-fat person, you still would have no options.

[Asker]

Well yesterday was one of countless incidents when I see a big person being louder than usual.

[WaitingAtTheDoor]

Sorry it happened. You going to be ok?

[Asker]

Oh my god...I don't know. So fricken paranoid of big people being loud now I tell you.

[WaitingAtTheDoor]

What did you expect me to say? I mean seriously guy, people of all shapes and sizes are loud and obnoxious, and not aware in public. People are self-centered by nature. You might as well be pointing out that cows eat grass or law enforcement officers write tickets.

[Anonymous]

Firstly, what you speak of is not 'truth'. It is not based on any facts, therefore it is simply just an opinion.

My opinion? I am slightly overweight and I am the complete opposite. My fear of judgement has made me an introvert, and barely audible. A persons tendency to speak loud, does not have any direct correlation at all with their weight, however it reflects certain aspects of their personality. By stating that overweight people speak loudly for attention, you are saying that overweight people are the only people who need to compensate in this department, which is untrue. Are you saying there are no such thing as attention deprived and unattractive thin people?

As for your little anecdote, that is a thing called coincidence.

[Asker]

No I don't think that overweight people are the only type out there that are outspoken. But I gotta tell ya....I really see a BIG TENDENCY of bigger people being more chatty....no pun intended.

[Anonymous]

hahaha I just love that you took a picture. While I don't appreciate the American comment, I do agree with you that its a ploy for the attention they won't get otherwise.

[Asker]

Wow I had a female agree with me...nice.

[Anonymous]

I'm a fat girl (a little bit smaller than the girl in that pic) while I am not loud in public, I am outspoken and I'm not some shrinking violet either. Perhaps due to dealing with assholes like you who judge people because of your weight and treat you differently, you do develop a "harder" shell and become more outspoken. I find it really hard to believe that you've never seen a thin person be obnoxious or loud either. Methinks this post was just an excuse to express your hatred for fat people.

[Asker]

I don't hate fat people, but I have no sympathy for them when they do things to draw even more negative attention to themselves. This is NOT the first incident when I encountered a heavy person being extra LOUD so they could get some sort of attention. It's not the right way to go about things.

Being a ex personal trainer I've helped heavy people lose weight in the past. They need a boost in confidence...but talking LOUD due to insecurity isn't the best approach.

[snackeyg]

I'm fat. I'm not loud at all. The opposite actually.

[Asker]

Well good I like you.

[snackeyg]

Lol Thank you. Not counting drunk, I can't stand loud and obnoxious.

[Asker]

You have a right to be confident and to have a good personality. You can be funny...even a seth rogan type. However I see some fat people resort to bitter measures because of their insecurities. This includes the example (this girl claimed she turned down sex from a french model...BULLSHIT!!!!) or overweight people making fun of other people's foibles. My ex boss was a perfect example. In other words don't dis respect people or they will point out the obvious.

[Anonymous]

Correlation does not validate nor invalidate and infered causation...