And there's a new place opening up where I live called Bikini Coffee where the women work in nothing but bikinis, I MEAN WTF. That is just digusting and strange.
LIKE HELL ANYONE WOULD BRING THEIR KIDS TO THAT PLACE.
I've dated a former hooter's waitress. Some of them are horrible places too work but most of them really aren't that bad. Yeah she got bigger tips because she was cute but she got bigger tips at every resturaunt she worked at because she was cute. She was no better than any one else on the wait staff but consistently made more tip money. The difference was at hooters nobody felt any restraint for tipping her just cause she was attractive so she made even more. The way she explained it to me was she was doing the exact same thing at the other restaurants and being treated about the same way the only difference was the tips were bigger and she wore more revealing clothes. Half her summer clothes looked like that anyways. She didn't care, I didn't care and nothing bad happened to anybody. People get payed for being attractive whether it's seen as socially acceptable or not. If they didn't actors, models, and boy bands wouldn't have a career. Even Attractive dentist tend to make more money. It's just what happens. The world isn't perfect. The world isn't fair. We don't live in a strict meritocracy. So focus your attention on fighting the important battles. Trust me hooters isn't one.
Just noticed your avatar is Kim Kardashian. Her entire celebrity career was started by a sex tape scandal and you've got a problem with hooters? Really?
The whole point is objectifying women. There's a lot of different breasturants besides Hooters. I've never actually been but from what I've been told there's absolutely 0 tolerance for touching the waitresses and they make absurd tips. So I guess from their point of view they are robbing lustful dudes blind while they make the guy think he's a stud for talking to hot chicks.
Thats true, the people who take pictures with them crack the hell out of me.
Pleaseeeee girl, I exist! Don't I?
@apple24 Eh. I don't have that many friends anymore. I moved away from most of them and these days I'm just focused on my studies and haven't met anyone that I care to be friends with. I stay away from guys that say bro constantly which means I just marginalized 90% of all guys surrounding me...
I don't think they objectifying anyone who CHOOSES to work there. I've been to one that's like 3-4 minutes away from my house by car and it's honestly not as bad as you think. It's also originally a place for men to chill and relax, so yeah there's going to be eye candy for the guys to look at. The women there know what they're getting themselves into so they're actually objectifying themselves, and if they didn't want to be objectified they could work somewhere else. Honestly, some of you peeps need to get a grip. These people gave consent and there's a strict rule they hold about not harassing the workers so they're safe, and as long as there's consent from those women and protection for those women, you need to chill. If you want to worry about people being objectified against their will I suggest you to something about things like the porn industry, and sex trafficking. :T
Yes, women choose to work there, but there's no doubt they're objectifying women, regardless of whether they choose to work there, they got themselves into it obviously. I see your point though.
Also, if the women working there had an issue with it they could always protest it. I'm always seeing people going on about how yadah yadah is being objectified, and how it's unfair, but they often forget these people chose that occupation and could always back out, or not go for it in the first place if there really is an issue. . -.
I know I think it's disgusting and weird as hell.
I was on dating site a while back and there a bunch of guys that had pictures with them and hooter girls as their profile pictures. I mean it's worse enough on facebook but what do is that they think screams out "I'm boyfriend material " about a picture like that? How is that normal or ok?
I asked a few times what they were thinking and they don't even know
And I live in catholic Ireland, if someone serves you food in short shorts, you're in a strip clubs. So would you believe that guys, the few times they've been to the US, went to hooters, took pictures with the girls there and then went back home to upload them on a dating site. Wth? What's wrong with men? I mean I wouldn't put a picture with a bunch Hollister models on a dating site.
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Well sorry for the rant
Nope I agree. And that pic is disgusting haha, i mean obviously the guys are extremely good-looking, but that woman seems like such an ass? "Look at me! I'm surrounded by shirtless hot guys!"
Really, all these places should shut down and the sad thing is the owners are probably rich af.
I think even though women aren't forced to work there, if a women with the body/face that the company hires can't find a job someplace else, then she might be forced to work at a place where she feels like she's selling herself. And that obviously is terrible.
I would never take my children there, and I wouldn't want my partner to go there. And I wouldn't want to go there either.
My roommate use to work at Hooter's and she took a break for school. When she came back the guy told her she couldn't work there because she gained weight and wouldn't fit the uniform anymore even though in reality she had lost weight. So, it's like you can not hire people and justify it with personal preference. And you make people feel like crap in the process.
Thats so sad DD: I totally agree
Places like that need to be shut down, same thing with magazines like Maxim and Playboy needing to be yanked from an and all publication and video games like Mortal Kombat and Grand Theft Auto that glorify sexual violence, it's part of this anti-woman culture we have in this god forsaken shithole of a country and it needs to stop. Everytime I feel empowered, only to be bombarded with images of sexuality according to the hetero-male mind, I feel that a part of me dies.
If we want to end sexism and toxic masculinity, we need to quit giving men what they want and we need to stop letting them denigrate us.
Yesss! Every single time I feel like I need to stick up for women I get thrown down saying i'm being oversensitive and a 'feminazi' and its really not fair, the same thing if it were to be a male in the situation, which there is a restaurant with shirtless men, same deal, its objectifying and disgusting, for both genders! And yes same thing with playboy and pornography, it just sets up this bad image for humanity in general and i totally disagree it just downgrades human beings, and especially women in most cases.
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I've only been there one time to watch some pay-perv-view fights because everywhere else was full, and I thought it was going to be super weird, but it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. The food is actually really good lol. I would feel too much like a perv going to places like that under normal circumstances though, especially if they were only wearing bikinis. If girls want to use their bodies to make money though, I don't have a problem with that.
Kids night is fucking weird though, no doubt.
All breastraunts are lame. I feel bad for bikini coffee girls. They must get burned all the time and it can't be healthy to wear a swimsuit all day. Can you imagine? The only time you wouldn't be freezing is when you burned yourself.
Oh. Have you ever heard about how "Cahones" would work? shatteredjunk.tumblr.com/.../stupidswampwitch-masooood-safeidgul-why
Is Cahones a restaurant/bar with guys? And yep they are lame, I want to throw a pie in the face of those who actually like the idea.
It's not a real place but it's a way to help guys think about how places like hooters make women feel.
Those poor girls, forced at gunpoint to work at Hooters or else their captive families will be executed.
Yeah. No. Cute serving staff are known to make more money, male or female (but especially female), Hooters is just overt about it. It doesn't hurt that the food is pretty good, too.
I remember I went there for an after work party. One of my co-workers (female) made a big fuss about refusing to go there for the same SJW fembot reasons you've given. We said fine, suit yourself. She caved almost immediately and then turned up caked with makeup and wearing a very tight, revealing outfit. :/
I hope you are in the process of drafting another complaint, about Tallywhackers.
@Toad-1 sure she can not go, only an extremely anti social person would purposely insist on holding a social gathering at a place that he knows makes some people in the group uncomfortable. You wouldn't take your mormon friends to a metal concert.
Why is it so ridiculous that women aren't completely comfortable with other women being objectified? And why is it ok to make them feel bad for feeling like that?
@nalaa Why is it so ridiculous that women aren't completely comfortable with other women being objectified? And why is it ok to make them feel bad for feeling like that?
1. its not ridiculous, go ahead and feel uncomfortable.
2. no one is making them feel bad, we simply disagree with her or don't care about such opinions. we are free to do so as you are also free to be offended however you want.
Ok my comment was NOT about the waitresses if that wasn't clear. It was about your coworker who told you she wasn't comfortable going there, which I think is a quite reasonable request. So I think it's rather bizarre and crude that you not only didn't care at all but also made her feel bad for it
Ya but, again you DO see why she didn't like that choice of venue?
Any other restaurant in which women don't run around half naked would have been fine and I don't think it's that much to ask?
I mean would you be perfectly fine with a restaurant in which the waiters wear speedos like this
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e- i don't care.
it's a restaurant. the girls work there because they want to, not because they are forced in any way. also, they have pretty good food. i don't eat there often and probably been a handful of times, but i honestly don't go there for the hot women, although that's a plus. you just sound kinda jealous/insecure/butthurt/(insert adjective) about the entire thing with your rant to be honest. you don't even have to go there or acknowledge their existence. you're actively posting about it for the sake of "making a point". it's not god's gift to the world, but in reality, it sounds really petty and stupid to take a use the semi "objectification" of a chain restaurant for a social platform. sounds more like some "feminists" and apparent white knights/social justice warriors rambling bullshit to me.
These places SUPER exploitative of their workers, I'd never go near them myself.
'Not to go all feminist', but we need to keep a minimal level of respect for women...
These women are using their talents to earn money; what's the difference between them and smart people utilizing their knowledge to create something? If these women can earn money with their looks, then more power to them.
I've never been there to be honest and I don't really plan to. There are probably more restaurants that have better food and/or service than they do
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I really dont understand why its objectifying women bc it really isn't. Why can't people just see it for what it is and know that its just appreciation of the female body. There is nothing wrong with it. These girls are just trying to earn an income and Im sure they like the fact that they are appreciated. No guys are complaining so I wonder where the problem is. Oh i know, it must be some jealous women who try to make an excuse as to why its wrong when really they are the ones with the problem. What is wrong with appreciating the human body?
It doesn't offend me. I respect any woman who chooses to work their. I wouldn't do it myself but that's a whole other kettle of fish. Things like this have always existed and probably always will. I'm the kind of feminist that fights for any woman's right to wear revealing clothing, if she wants to do that in a job then as long as she's happy, that's all good to me. It's not exactly sex trafficking is it?
— "Does anyone else think Hooters is stupid af?"
There are seven billion/milliard people on this planet. The answer to any "does anyone else" question is always yes.
— "I mean its literally a restaurant"
How can something figuratively be a restaurant?
— "its obviousy meant to attract more customers (Oh, sorry, I meant MEN.)"
First off, some men are homosexual and aren't attracted to this. Some men don't go to places just because the waitresses show more cleavage. Some women are homosexual. No need to think all men are like this. Of course there'll be dumb fucks who fall for it, but that's not every man. You don't need to blame half of the planet for these kinds of places. Also, you need to learn how to spell.
— "not to go all feminist and everything"
Since when is feminism bad?
— "its objectifying women, and i'm not being over-sensitive, it is!!"
You need to learn some basic grammar rules.
That being said, it is objectifying women, there's no denying that.
Also, @PeachSunset, I looked at your profile and you wrote "Straight (duh.)" in your bio. This is not only dumb but also offensive.
It isn't offensive. :T
I said straight and the (duh) because everyone knows i'm obsessed with Ian Somerhalder, a man, and its also an inside joke and being an inside joke with one of my GaG friends you probably wouldn't understand. If you think saying "straight" on my bio is also offensive, then I also don't see how that is, neither is it dumb.
Yeah well I meant the duh.
It just tells you about the girls who work there. They're perfectly content being seen as a piece of meat with no 'human' value. I think it's degrading, but some girls enjoy the attention
You're 100% right, I don't understand why you got downvoted.
Yeah I agree, when I said objectifying and degrading, I mean in general, not on a specific person, cause i'm sure there's girls there who love being looked at. It seems i've caused a huge conflict, I probably have people plotting against me.. and you apparently as well 😂
I don't like that. I've never liked the idea of objectification, that's why I don't have any intentions of ever going to a strip club, cause I know I wouldn't like it.
But those women wanna be there, they agree to all the that, that's why they're opening more and more restaurants cause there are girls who like being objectified.
finally...
YES. never been there, have no desire to go there.
if i want titties in my face i go to a strip club.
Yeah, not the place where you eat food.
It's hilarious because it exploits stupid people desperate for sex to eat something at those establishments... Not brilliant, kind of very see through - but it still works.
And the owner/owners are probably filthy rich - which is irnoic because the women who work there are most definitely not rich - and it's an idea focused solely around those women from whom the owner is making a killing...
So - smart owner - stupid women who don't understand they hold a monopoly on this...
I agree. But those poor stupid women are basically being used so guys can get a boner, and like you said, they're not even being paid that much, while the owner yep, he probably swims in his own money. Its sad, they chose that life style, but it still is.
When I first heard about it I thought it was a joke. It's also weird that it's so popular. I have no idea if you have something like that in the Netherlands but I've never heard of it.
I'm pretty sure they don't thank God, but ya Hooters is practically located in every state and it does disgust me.
Well, a Hooters wouldn't be the worst thing in Netherlands xD
I know, but I think the red light district is way worse than a Hooters :/
@AleDeEurope what is worse about it? It's not bad to be a prostitute. I think if you can emotionally deal with it and find something fun in it then why the hell not? I read once an interview from a prostitute. Very interesting since it's really more than just having sex. You talk to the men, making them feel comfortable and you can really make a guy feel a little better. I wish I could send it but it's in Dutch so you wouldn't be able to read it.
But it objectifies women way more than Hooters. They're literally in a window for everyone to see and rent... I don't know, I've never liked that kind of stuff. I like the fact that prostitution is legal cause it protects the women, but I still don't like the act of prostitution and objectification.
@AleDeEurope I guess it's unpreventable. Prostitution has been there almost since the beginning of the human race. If there's need, it will find a way to continue.
Although I don't see the point of making you horny and that's it. I guess it's better then to really sell your body than acting like you're not selling it but actually do.
@AleDeEurope Prostitution is still prostitution though, most people still think of it as something bad and dirty. That women shouldn't be treated that way.
Hooter however has become totally normalized so that people take their children there and that's not ok. Objectifying women is not seen as a bad thing in that context. A girl in answers shared this
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which I think perfectly summarizes it
@nalaa That's why I don't like Hooters either, because of all the objectification. I will never take my kids to a place like that, I wouldn't want my son to view women that way, and I wouldn't want my daughter to think that's the way she should present herself.
I understand it's more acceptable in society, than prostitution, but I still don't think it's ok, though to me prostitution is worse for the fact that you're engaging in sexual activities with someone you don't like, but they'll give you money.
Both give a negative image about women, that they're sex objects.
@nalaa @AleDeEurope
medium.com/.../an-interview-with-a-prostitute-in-amsterdams-prostitute-information-center-e605e63f82ba
I think this interview is pretty accurate. The prostitutes in Amsterdam are mostly people who really enjoy their job. There are also male prostitutes.
Going to a prostitute is not something normal indeed. You don't really talk about it etc. Although you do about hooters.
I must say, I read an another interview from a prostitute and they say the whole stigma around prostitution is the worst. The child of a prostitute got kicked out of daycare because his mom was a prostitute. That's pretty horrible.
I read the whole interview, and it's cool that she's not completely ashamed about it, but I don't know, in my mind it's not something that I like.
Ok my point was not really that prostitution is bad, but that the objectification of women, which is def happens in that business as @AleDeEurope is not normal in mainstream society. It's a very small niche. Hooters on the other hand hit the mainstream and suddenly it's ok to objectify women open and in public (It's not only hooters obviously) and that's why I think it's worse than prostitution in that regard. Even tho, just looking at the actual objectification I agree with him it's worse in prostitution, if you know what I mean?
Well we don't have them here either and I hope they never will make it.
Hmm well if you think about it... those girls that work there... the only reason they seem to be "all that" is because of comments like yours, and people who are very hmm "perverted"? just making a bigger deal out of, truly, ... just average girls who dress in that type of clothing. Nothing special really! My cousin worked there, and it is not a great deal at all. It is not as if those girls are being seductive while you are there!
.. but I would never work there myself lol. :)
I like boobs as much as the next guy. Still, I don't patronize those establishments.
Not a fan of any of the "Breastaurants".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastaurant
I really question bikini coffee if one of the workers gets a spill on herself its going to hurt like hell and she can sue the crap out of the company. I know its totally their choice to work at places like Hooters and bikini coffee but people who work there are either trying to get through college by whatevers means are necessary because it happens i get it, or she is insecure because no woman who loves herself would do this and people say women are not objectified.
I always thought it was strange when I was 12 i thought the same and when i was 20 i thought the same lol I don't think its right but i wonder if they would do the same thing for men objectifying
I've thought about that!!! I'd still be pissed if they did it with men though. It would be objectifying either gender, and yep it is strange aft
Thats inhumane :T @Octavius
boob sweat..😂
You are over reacting.
Think about it a bit more - a business has figured out that if they staff cute waitresses in tight uniforms, they can make more money and over charge men.
This isn't objectifying women. It's objectifying and exploiting men!
God damn every guy says that "Oh stop, you're overreacting" but I do think its disgusting, and i'm not just talking about women. And yes, they're making more money but its so materialistic, suddenly because the restaurant makes more money makes it ok? Absolutely not. And oh no, you can't just turn this around and say its objectifying men. there's also places that objectify men which i'm totally against, but don't you dare try to turn this on yourself and absolutely ignore how its degrading women.
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