I think most divorces initiated by women are because of financial issues and they fell out of love with their husbands. The guy cheating certainly isn't at the top of the list. I think the woman cheating is the top reason for guys to initiate the divorce.
So women are hypergamous and/or don't believe in the love they claim they do. I also agree with the anony user that said men have more to lose from a divorce as well. Some of the laws on that are insane, especially for the 21st century.
Feminism destroyed in them their fairy tale i. e. the prince and the princess story. They now still expect everything from the man, but giving back nothing and pretending to be independent (they can't though). They think for example that it is humiliating to do the housewife's work. But a modern man stills likes that stereotype or an updated version of it. When he decides not to step back she files for divorce.
because they never let shit go. Women hold onto the tiniest shit like it is the last tampon in the store on a heavy day. Never hold a grudge ladies. My ex brought up shit from our wedding 20 years ago. WTF?
Women only honour their agreements under circumstances that directly benefit them. Men will generally honour their agreements.
Beware the woman who cries she is trapped in her marriage, she is actually crying that she is required to honour her commitment, at least for now.
Women break the mutual agreement of marriage over 80% of the time. This is an expected result under Briffaults Law, google it for further information and let people know what you think.
I think it's because guys naturally keep a hold of everything even if it's in pieces. We keep meaning to repair it later but if it hasn't broken outright there are other things that take priority. That and women hint at problems or leave it to the man to pick up on non verbal signals. When we as men need it spelled out and ranked on importance.
@thewanderingme importance to one person does not mean the same to another. In example "Something is not right between us" could mean anything and does not clarify importance. Is it of immediate importance? Is it something that needs to be worked on gradually? Are we as men supposed to guess and hope we have a solution at the ready? There is nothing spelled out in that or similar statements. Citing specific problems is preferred with realistic goals. If the problem is "lack of communication" how are we not communicating, emotionally, physically, verbally? How can we improve that? Is there a course or video to watch? Do you know how we can go about changing that? Men need a direct course of action on how to fix the problem not vague statements that could imply many different things.
@thewanderingme My friends and I would honestly have welcomed the info if it had been given to us at the time. If it did upset us it would only be because no one likes to hear complaints about themselves too much but would help in the long run if we really loved the woman.
ahh, you see! in reality you would just take it as a complaint. I always suggest a solution, but sometimes their not really wanted. men get comfortable and don't want to change anything.
A theory of mine is that some women have wildly unrealistic romantic expectations about marriage (like this toxic idea of the *soulmate*) and become very dissappointed when they find out what it is really about. Marriage is just a legal contract which is very hard to break (divorce is a legal war). and on a day to day basis a married couple is just another relationship, which is simply having sex sometimes, and trying to tolerate each other each day.
probably cause womens always act like marriage is heaven and you see that a lot online. now it is easier to make the one who cares most about it be the victim. but like all the shit you see/hear this equals white knights, all men r jerks, girls who have lots of sex r bitches and so on. whereever you got it from try to understand me and you will see through the matrix
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Her emotional needs aren't met, she may feel neglected. Or maybe the husband cheated on her. Maybe because of the neglect from her husband she cheated. Not saying it's right, but this is why I am not getting married. A long term partner in life would be great, but people change over time.
That's a good question. My sister in law recently forced my brother to set their divorce in motion. She was having mental issues, and I think still does. And a couple of my uncles have divorced/separated from their wives as well. One wasn't by his choice and the other was a mutual decision between him and his wife (I think). Otherwise, my whole family has remained married. There's no telling if there will be any in the future, but hopefully not.
Well the fact that men pay alimoney 80% of the time which is for life until the woman is married would suggest it is beneficial for a woman to not marry again. No such benfit exists for men.
Pop music, the view, jealous gfs on facebook messing with them, the fakeness of facebook, and dramas they watch, college takes on history and sociology, and maybe cause they came from a broken home.
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I asked a question like this way back and it's almost always the woman filing, and it's mostly she isn't happy because things just aren't going anywhere while the men are fine and complacent but the woman always needs change and something new and the fact that she dosent lose in the divorce because they know they will get half , and child support and alimony possibly , there really isn't much to deter them from going ahead with it for a new life
im not really sure, I haven't heard about much divorces or any in my family in general but if it were up to me I'd work it out unless he would keep doing the same thing over and over
I would say women are often too quick to want to get married, because they are extremely scared of dying alone. Men don't have these feelings as much so when they get married they have their hearts set more.
Probably because they marry guys that are financially stable and someone they can tolerate. They don't truly like the guy and just went with him because he's a stable choice that has money to raise the kid. Then after the kid has grown up or they can't stand the guy anymore they file for divorce. Divorce isn't as much as a hindrance when they generally marry up so they get financially compensated for it.
Because in Western countries, the law is biased in favour of women, and they alway's get a divorce settlement, half of what the man earns. They clearly divorce for the pay out. Yet is normally the woman who is too blame.
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I think most divorces initiated by women are because of financial issues and they fell out of love with their husbands. The guy cheating certainly isn't at the top of the list.
I think the woman cheating is the top reason for guys to initiate the divorce.
So women are hypergamous and/or don't believe in the love they claim they do. I also agree with the anony user that said men have more to lose from a divorce as well. Some of the laws on that are insane, especially for the 21st century.
This question perfectly typifies the fact that most women are out of touch.
Yes, women never have any faults. I've never seen one admit to such.
Feminism destroyed in them their fairy tale i. e. the prince and the princess story. They now still expect everything from the man, but giving back nothing and pretending to be independent (they can't though). They think for example that it is humiliating to do the housewife's work. But a modern man stills likes that stereotype or an updated version of it. When he decides not to step back she files for divorce.
because they never let shit go. Women hold onto the tiniest shit like it is the last tampon in the store on a heavy day. Never hold a grudge ladies. My ex brought up shit from our wedding 20 years ago. WTF?
Legally, women have the advantage in a divorce case.
Briffaults Law.
Women only honour their agreements under circumstances that directly benefit them. Men will generally honour their agreements.
Beware the woman who cries she is trapped in her marriage, she is actually crying that she is required to honour her commitment, at least for now.
Women break the mutual agreement of marriage over 80% of the time. This is an expected result under Briffaults Law, google it for further information and let people know what you think.
I think it's because guys naturally keep a hold of everything even if it's in pieces. We keep meaning to repair it later but if it hasn't broken outright there are other things that take priority. That and women hint at problems or leave it to the man to pick up on non verbal signals. When we as men need it spelled out and ranked on importance.
you need a ranking? lol
@thewanderingme importance to one person does not mean the same to another. In example "Something is not right between us" could mean anything and does not clarify importance. Is it of immediate importance? Is it something that needs to be worked on gradually? Are we as men supposed to guess and hope we have a solution at the ready? There is nothing spelled out in that or similar statements. Citing specific problems is preferred with realistic goals. If the problem is "lack of communication" how are we not communicating, emotionally, physically, verbally? How can we improve that? Is there a course or video to watch? Do you know how we can go about changing that? Men need a direct course of action on how to fix the problem not vague statements that could imply many different things.
I've attempted to directly tell guys what the issues were in the past and they just got upset.
@thewanderingme My friends and I would honestly have welcomed the info if it had been given to us at the time. If it did upset us it would only be because no one likes to hear complaints about themselves too much but would help in the long run if we really loved the woman.
ahh, you see! in reality you would just take it as a complaint. I always suggest a solution, but sometimes their not really wanted. men get comfortable and don't want to change anything.
@thewanderingme So any time someone points out your flaws, you thank them for it?
I probably don't thank them, but I take a mental note of it, if I agree.
@thewanderingme So you see I may get grumpy but I will think on it and adapt as quick as I can to the feedback.
A theory of mine is that some women have wildly unrealistic romantic expectations about marriage (like this toxic idea of the *soulmate*) and become very dissappointed when they find out what it is really about. Marriage is just a legal contract which is very hard to break (divorce is a legal war). and on a day to day basis a married couple is just another relationship, which is simply having sex sometimes, and trying to tolerate each other each day.
probably cause womens always act like marriage is heaven and you see that a lot online. now it is easier to make the one who cares most about it be the victim. but like all the shit you see/hear this equals white knights, all men r jerks, girls who have lots of sex r bitches and so on. whereever you got it from try to understand me and you will see through the matrix
Her emotional needs aren't met, she may feel neglected. Or maybe the husband cheated on her. Maybe because of the neglect from her husband she cheated. Not saying it's right, but this is why I am not getting married. A long term partner in life would be great, but people change over time.
That's a good question. My sister in law recently forced my brother to set their divorce in motion. She was having mental issues, and I think still does. And a couple of my uncles have divorced/separated from their wives as well. One wasn't by his choice and the other was a mutual decision between him and his wife (I think). Otherwise, my whole family has remained married. There's no telling if there will be any in the future, but hopefully not.
I meant there is no telling if there will be any divorces in the future.
Men generally have more to lose with a divorce than women.
Because men, would rather stay in a bad relationship, then risk being alone.
When they ask middle aged men what their biggest fear is, it's being alone
Because most women want textbooks definitions of romance and when they can't have it they leave.
men get married three times as often as women do.. maybe the guys push the woman to divorce so they can get out fault free.
Well the fact that men pay alimoney 80% of the time which is for life until the woman is married would suggest it is beneficial for a woman to not marry again. No such benfit exists for men.
Huh the what you say now? Men get married 3x as often as women do?
That's statistically impossible, unless you live in some backward-ass country where the average man has 3 wives. Wha?
How is that possible without at least as many gay marriages as hetero marriages? Can you show us your working in that equation?
If men get married three times as often must be all marrying the same women
Yes because men really like being taken for all their hard earned money don't they.
Pop music, the view, jealous gfs on facebook messing with them, the fakeness of facebook, and dramas they watch, college takes on history and sociology, and maybe cause they came from a broken home.
I asked a question like this way back and it's almost always the woman filing, and it's mostly she isn't happy because things just aren't going anywhere while the men are fine and complacent but the woman always needs change and something new and the fact that she dosent lose in the divorce because they know they will get half , and child support and alimony possibly , there really isn't much to deter them from going ahead with it for a new life
im not really sure, I haven't heard about much divorces or any in my family in general but if it were up to me I'd work it out unless he would keep doing the same thing over and over
I would say women are often too quick to want to get married, because they are extremely scared of dying alone. Men don't have these feelings as much so when they get married they have their hearts set more.
I've read men are actually more likely to settle on a woman they consider "good enough" while not actually being in love much more than women do.
Probably because they marry guys that are financially stable and someone they can tolerate. They don't truly like the guy and just went with him because he's a stable choice that has money to raise the kid. Then after the kid has grown up or they can't stand the guy anymore they file for divorce. Divorce isn't as much as a hindrance when they generally marry up so they get financially compensated for it.
Because in Western countries, the law is biased in favour of women, and they alway's get a divorce settlement, half of what the man earns. They clearly divorce for the pay out. Yet is normally the woman who is too blame.