After listening to your thoughts, I can say with certainty, that you chose your username wisely.
Just kidding, but I don't understand the point , it just adds up to another lame excuse, the tradition. If you believe in fairness and logic, it's not that goddamn difficult to pay for what you have bought / used.
Wait wait If you are old fashion and you want a old fashion guy then don't sleep around because if he is old fashion like me i want an old fashion time of girl :p
Be in peace guys!! Not an argument!! It depends on the woman you're with and how she thinks you're !! The best solution is to take turns if both have agreed to a date or the datemaker has to take the chance awkwardly!
See here is my simple rule If a guy asks you on a date, he pays. If a girl asks you on a date, she pays. Not so hard folks!
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I fully expect to be paid for. The guy ALWAYS pays. Why? Because he's lucky I agreed to go out with him. I know I sound pretentious but it's the truth. There have only bee a couple of instances where I paid for myself and of course there was no second date
What do you do when you've been dating for a while? I'll pay for the first two or three dates, but I would expect her to pay half after that. Is that asking too much?
Honestly, you just have to be yourself. There are women out there who prefer a man to pay, and there are some women who are actually insulted if you try to pay for them. You just have to match up with your type, and don't change for anyone.
as far as women not being allowed to work before that was actually only WHITE women, all other groups of women could and had to work to help take of their families. so, that excuse doesn't really explain "the tradition" among other women.
That's not true at all. If you look at the middle east and Africa, it's still very traditional over there. Along with many parts of Asia. Actually polygamy still exists over there, and you have to have the wealth, property, and means to take care of her in order to marry her. They also have HUGE lavish, and expensive weddings.
@Toad-1 look. I love my girlfriend very much. she's very much a tradional woman and to an extent still believes in tradional gender roles. she's kind, considerate, loving and a passionate, selfless lover in the bed who trys her best to keep me happy all the time. She absolutely adores children which is kinda how we met (work experience at a primary school). The other thing is I earn a fair amount of money for a 17 year old guy whereas she does purely voluntary work. So I dont mind paying for her to take me out. I still enjoyed the meal and it wasn't too expensive. But yeah I do think there is some truth in what you said sadly.
Having self respect has nothing to do with it, simpleton. What burden are they putting on the person who askd the out in the first place? Dont confuse your skewed bigoted perception with actual reality. There is no logical reason why someone would try and romantically woo someone while expecting them to pay half.
@Mesonfielde If guys don't want to pay, stop going to expensive places and places that requires you pay, simple. .. I'd be very upset if I got to the date and he showed me the check of $60 dinner and expected me to pay out of courtesy
I make more money then my husband so not only do I usually pay for our dates but car parts on his Camaro too. So to make it fair then make men be asked not to piss outside cuz women can't.
It's just me. If I go to the bar with a friend. First rounds on me. If I invite a colleague in business for a coffee, i buy the coffee. So if I go on a date and it's iniated by me, it's just me to pay for it.
I pay the first time if I ask them out to avoid any awkwardness. any other time it's separate or take turns that's just what I do, I don't care for anyone having to pay everything all the time and feel used
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After listening to your thoughts, I can say with certainty, that you chose your username wisely.
Just kidding, but I don't understand the point , it just adds up to another lame excuse, the tradition. If you believe in fairness and logic, it's not that goddamn difficult to pay for what you have bought / used.
Wait wait If you are old fashion and you want a old fashion guy then don't sleep around because if he is old fashion like me i want an old fashion time of girl :p
Sleep around? Um is this relevant with the take?
He is saying that if she wants a traditional guy she needs to act like a traditional girl and that includes not sleeping around.
bingo
@Tyber
So if tradition dictates something disadvantageous for women, we shouldn't change it, right?
But wait -- women bitch and moan (and seek legislation) when things don't go *their* way.
What I think? Fuck women. I want to see their fucking skulls cracked, bleeding in the street. If she opens her mouth, she should get a rock.
damn bro calmdown
Rudest gay man I ever heard
Ok sir. You're angry at women huh.
Be in peace guys!! Not an argument!! It depends on the woman you're with and how she thinks you're !! The best solution is to take turns if both have agreed to a date or the datemaker has to take the chance awkwardly!
See here is my simple rule
If a guy asks you on a date, he pays.
If a girl asks you on a date, she pays.
Not so hard folks!
I fully expect to be paid for. The guy ALWAYS pays. Why? Because he's lucky I agreed to go out with him. I know I sound pretentious but it's the truth.
There have only bee a couple of instances where I paid for myself and of course there was no second date
You know what you do is wrong and that's why you went anonymous... -_-
If there were something wrong with it, I'd not have gone out on as many dates. Even with my boyfriends, they always paid.
BITCH
That's a good logic, if it happens often it must be right, poor future husband.
What do you do when you've been dating for a while? I'll pay for the first two or three dates, but I would expect her to pay half after that. Is that asking too much?
No, that I believe is fair. Woo het for the first few dates then, share the bill. Perfectly normal.
Not at all.
Most girls I've been on dates with offer to pay on the first date, but I've heard they'll be mad if you let them.
Honestly, you just have to be yourself. There are women out there who prefer a man to pay, and there are some women who are actually insulted if you try to pay for them. You just have to match up with your type, and don't change for anyone.
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as far as women not being allowed to work before that was actually only WHITE women, all other groups of women could and had to work to help take of their families. so, that excuse doesn't really explain "the tradition" among other women.
That's not true at all. If you look at the middle east and Africa, it's still very traditional over there. Along with many parts of Asia. Actually polygamy still exists over there, and you have to have the wealth, property, and means to take care of her in order to marry her. They also have HUGE lavish, and expensive weddings.
They still pay bride price too, to the daughter's father.
@northeast106 we're not talking about Africa. that still doesn't explain non white females in America.
I agree with your take. Women who expect the guy to pay are entitled and spoiled.
My girlfriend "took me out" for a birthday meal and still made me pay...
Omg lol. Imagine she'd take you out to the most expensive restaurant in town and you had to pay everything 😂😂
Haha I'm sorry that must have really sucked :P
ahahahahhahahah forgive me for laughin
@Afrochick no problem. I can see the funny side now 😄
That's messed up.
I like how you all think this is hilarious. If a guy made a woman do this you would all be furious.
@Toad-1 look. I love my girlfriend very much. she's very much a tradional woman and to an extent still believes in tradional gender roles. she's kind, considerate, loving and a passionate, selfless lover in the bed who trys her best to keep me happy all the time. She absolutely adores children which is kinda how we met (work experience at a primary school). The other thing is I earn a fair amount of money for a 17 year old guy whereas she does purely voluntary work. So I dont mind paying for her to take me out. I still enjoyed the meal and it wasn't too expensive. But yeah I do think there is some truth in what you said sadly.
I pay for my own meals and my wife pays for her own. We are a couple, we don't play these silly gender war mind games.
I've been the one who always pay except the first date. I don't mjnd paying for the dates.
Let's just leave it at it's a nice jesture. Non of this historical desultory stuff which seeks to lay ideas of old into today's context.
then I wonder why the vast majority of women don't make this nice gesture.
Why would the person being asked out have to pay?
@RationalLioness because they have self-respect and don't want to put unnecessary financial burden on others if they can pay for their own stuff?
Having self respect has nothing to do with it, simpleton. What burden are they putting on the person who askd the out in the first place? Dont confuse your skewed bigoted perception with actual reality. There is no logical reason why someone would try and romantically woo someone while expecting them to pay half.
@Mesonfielde If guys don't want to pay, stop going to expensive places and places that requires you pay, simple. .. I'd be very upset if I got to the date and he showed me the check of $60 dinner and expected me to pay out of courtesy
& guys wonder why the girls don't like them
I make more money then my husband so not only do I usually pay for our dates but car parts on his Camaro too. So to make it fair then make men be asked not to piss outside cuz women can't.
I'll treat you the way men treated women traditionally, if you treat me the way women treated men traditionally too.
Otherwise, it's kind of a waste of time.
Fat chance that is happening.
@Roostah I know, I know
It's just me. If I go to the bar with a friend. First rounds on me. If I invite a colleague in business for a coffee, i buy the coffee. So if I go on a date and it's iniated by me, it's just me to pay for it.
I pay the first time if I ask them out to avoid any awkwardness. any other time it's separate or take turns
that's just what I do, I don't care for anyone having to pay everything all the time and feel used
If I'm going out with you to get to know you to see if it goes anywhere, technically I don't owe you anything. Pay for yourself.