I totally get what you are saying here. I used to feel that way, and still do sometimes. However, if a person is making me wait a lot, then I lose interest. Basically I lose interest because if they actually wanted me to be a part of their life, they would make an effort. If they aren't showing any interest, I am out the door and investing my time in people who want to be in my life.
i think it's easier is that if is not putting too much thought getting the guy or girl. If you like someone be honest about it. No need trick or mind game. Treat everyone nice and eventually you will find someone for you because relationship is about trust and honestly. You shouldn't just want start relationship, you should try start good relationship that mean finding the right partner instead going bunch of crappy relationship
I'm gonna say this as delicately as I know how. Males tend to be persistent creatures. Men who weren't as persistent as their competition had their genetic line die off. If he isn't pursuing you after you reciprocate your interest and your point of view he probably isn't all that into you.
The simplest advice I could give would be to make yourself desirable and they will chase you. Let nature run its course.
"I know you have learnt the hard way that women respond better if you keep them waiting for you."
This is the simple truth. We have to make you wait even if we don't want to. Sure you might belong to that minority of women where we don't have to do this but we have no way of knowing and we know the odds are against it...
Don't invest your entire heart into a relationship right away. Most guys play games with women because they don't trust women not to play games with them. It takes a special kind of coward to be this distrustful, I know but that's modern romances for you.
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I see. We are friends first though me and him... It makes things a little more confusing. I keep attending group gatherings in the hope to see him but I found out he's gone on a trip.
Why can't you message first though? Being the first to initiate every conversation just feels one sided, and makes me feel like I'm in some kind of unrequited friendship or something
I did actually... But he took a long while to respond and when I responded to that, he didn't bother replying. I don't want to be a pain. I like him too much.
@tyber1 I did write - he doesn't respond immediately and when he does its cold and weird but as we have mutual friends when we meet he's so sweet and attentive
Sometimes people don't respond immediately for many reasons. One may not know what to say; one may be trying to figure out what to say; maybe he feels the same way and does not want to be a pain!
When men start being more engaged, we get accused of being clingy, needy, desperate, vulnerable, creep, pussy whipped.. man I could go on. So no, unfortunately I wouldn't advise men to jump in, and they must keep their distance.
Omg... I can so relate to what you wrote and have been going through that as well and had those same thoughts run through my head. The only thing, though, is that I don't withhold sex from my man to maintain control. I've never been one to do that.
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Neither have I - but I think a lot of women do. And they're never alone :(
I don't wait more than a couple weeks for obvious signs of real interest and effort from a guy. move on if you're not getting what you want from a guy.
Welcome to our world ! "Oh i don't know, maybe i'll play 'hard to get', what do you think?" *best friend of the girl i am imitating* "oh yeah defiinitely" Stop complaining, you did it to us for years, and now that the tables have turned you have nothing to say ^^
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So much hate where love is concerned. Men are mad.
I liked your Take, I identified with it. Unfortunately my experience has been that as soon as I make it known to a woman that I am interested in her romantically, she disappears. You're absolutely right, it is a Catch-22.
Lol is this for real? 90% of the time when it happens it's the guy who it happens to. How many times do you think I've been cancelled on by a girl I really liked? How many times do you think a girl has looked me in the eyes and smiled as she gave me her phone number, only to ignore me? Maybe men will collectively listen when women ask us to stop playing games when they stop doing it to us tenfold.
If you're actually that sick of waiting do something about it, you can't complain that men don't address your needs if you don't tell them about it.
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I did, Descartes - don't make assumptions. He just takes forever to respond and when he does it doesn't sound like he gives a damn. But when we meet with a group of friends - and he always insists on taking me, like he'll pick me up, open doors for me, drive me home slowly so we can chat for ages, walk slowly so i can keep up in my heels when all the other girls have passed by already... We even made plans to hang out alone and we flirt a lot but he cancelled and then again it all happened over again. And I feel heartbroken. I can't keep asking him stuff when he seems so cold unless I'm right in front of him
@Psi_Unknown - I guess... I mean it has happened to me. He did just get out of a long ish relationship. Maybe you're right. Maugham, maybe I should jump him and get him out of my system?
Yes, those types of men are immature. Why leave a woman hanging? Just be upfront. If you're not interested , you're not interested. No need to pretend you are and mysteriously fade away with no communication m
stop waiting and crying. instead, forget and have things to do, go out, meet friends, have a full life where there is no time to be sad and waiting... and the funny thing, that when we stop think of them and wait for them and have a full our own life, guys usually appear and call and text... bcoz they afraid u will forget about them lol
that whole thought in your mind of being clingy is really what is making things worse for you women personally for me I want a woman who is clingy to me
I don't like to make hasty generalizations like that about all women, or even a single woman who appears that way because of her choices, and I do understand men can be the same way sometimes. Who knows? Maybe everyone is in fear of love?
@Psi_Unknown @cancerianman81 it's because we feel so bad when we're left. We can't compartmentalise. It's what makes us good at multitasking - men can work and play and live and set aside time and energy to mourn a great opportunity for a relationship and hurt feelings... I mean they're not robots but they can function better. Women, or perhaps just me, I then spend all day every day until it passes thinking of my heartbreak. I Am terrified of love. I just wanted lust. Why did I have to have feelings?
@Psi_Unknown - I'm not sure I can - it bleeds into every part of my life. From how I am around my family and friends to how I work and how I enjoy my free time. :(
FUCK NO! I don;t make him wait for me! I don't use sex to control men! I am only going to have sex with people I am comfortable begin naked with! So stupid.
Correction required , reverse the genders !! " I'm a woman, we get it - we withhold sex to maintain control, I know we do. " That's because you can very easily do this , most women barely have a sex drive & women view men more as a utility than a person , women far prefer other women for company over a man. Men are waking up...& walking away !!
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I totally get what you are saying here. I used to feel that way, and still do sometimes. However, if a person is making me wait a lot, then I lose interest. Basically I lose interest because if they actually wanted me to be a part of their life, they would make an effort. If they aren't showing any interest, I am out the door and investing my time in people who want to be in my life.
i think it's easier is that if is not putting too much thought getting the guy or girl. If you like someone be honest about it. No need trick or mind game. Treat everyone nice and eventually you will find someone for you because relationship is about trust and honestly. You shouldn't just want start relationship, you should try start good relationship that mean finding the right partner instead going bunch of crappy relationship
I'm gonna say this as delicately as I know how. Males tend to be persistent creatures. Men who weren't as persistent as their competition had their genetic line die off. If he isn't pursuing you after you reciprocate your interest and your point of view he probably isn't all that into you.
The simplest advice I could give would be to make yourself desirable and they will chase you. Let nature run its course.
"I know you have learnt the hard way that women respond better if you keep them waiting for you."
This is the simple truth. We have to make you wait even if we don't want to. Sure you might belong to that minority of women where we don't have to do this but we have no way of knowing and we know the odds are against it...
Don't invest your entire heart into a relationship right away. Most guys play games with women because they don't trust women not to play games with them. It takes a special kind of coward to be this distrustful, I know but that's modern romances for you.
I see. We are friends first though me and him... It makes things a little more confusing. I keep attending group gatherings in the hope to see him but I found out he's gone on a trip.
Why can't you message first though? Being the first to initiate every conversation just feels one sided, and makes me feel like I'm in some kind of unrequited friendship or something
Which ironically might be the reason he stops calling and texting her
I did actually... But he took a long while to respond and when I responded to that, he didn't bother replying. I don't want to be a pain. I like him too much.
@tyber1 I did write - he doesn't respond immediately and when he does its cold and weird but as we have mutual friends when we meet he's so sweet and attentive
Sometimes people don't respond immediately for many reasons. One may not know what to say; one may be trying to figure out what to say; maybe he feels the same way and does not want to be a pain!
@Psi_Unknown I get what you are saying but I always thought that if a guy likes you, he'll govout of his way to see you?
sometimes they don't so they don't seem desperate
There is probably some truth to that, but some do travel more than others.
When men start being more engaged, we get accused of being clingy, needy, desperate, vulnerable, creep, pussy whipped.. man I could go on. So no, unfortunately I wouldn't advise men to jump in, and they must keep their distance.
sadly.
Omg... I can so relate to what you wrote and have been going through that as well and had those same thoughts run through my head.
The only thing, though, is that I don't withhold sex from my man to maintain control. I've never been one to do that.
Neither have I - but I think a lot of women do. And they're never alone :(
Yes, I agree that a lot of women do; I've heard of those before.
I think those guys are you talking about probably just aren't as interesting in you as you are in them
I don't wait more than a couple weeks for obvious signs of real interest and effort from a guy. move on if you're not getting what you want from a guy.
Welcome to our world ! "Oh i don't know, maybe i'll play 'hard to get', what do you think?" *best friend of the girl i am imitating* "oh yeah defiinitely"
Stop complaining, you did it to us for years, and now that the tables have turned you have nothing to say ^^
So much hate where love is concerned. Men are mad.
women made us that way. what is the problem : the monster? or it's creator (i. e. Frankenstein)
I liked your Take, I identified with it. Unfortunately my experience has been that as soon as I make it known to a woman that I am interested in her romantically, she disappears. You're absolutely right, it is a Catch-22.
Yeah :( what's the point trying huh?
My sentiments exactly:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a24125-fatalism-the-fatalist
Lol is this for real? 90% of the time when it happens it's the guy who it happens to. How many times do you think I've been cancelled on by a girl I really liked? How many times do you think a girl has looked me in the eyes and smiled as she gave me her phone number, only to ignore me? Maybe men will collectively listen when women ask us to stop playing games when they stop doing it to us tenfold.
How about you send the first message Copernicus.
If you're actually that sick of waiting do something about it, you can't complain that men don't address your needs if you don't tell them about it.
I did, Descartes - don't make assumptions. He just takes forever to respond and when he does it doesn't sound like he gives a damn. But when we meet with a group of friends - and he always insists on taking me, like he'll pick me up, open doors for me, drive me home slowly so we can chat for ages, walk slowly so i can keep up in my heels when all the other girls have passed by already... We even made plans to hang out alone and we flirt a lot but he cancelled and then again it all happened over again. And I feel heartbroken. I can't keep asking him stuff when he seems so cold unless I'm right in front of him
Maybe he is tired of caring. It's a burnout, what can one say about it? Being in front of someone is not always a possibility.
@Psi_Unknown - I guess... I mean it has happened to me. He did just get out of a long ish relationship. Maybe you're right. Maugham, maybe I should jump him and get him out of my system?
Maugham?
@Psi_Unknown the writer?
Sorry, I never know who is really typing what behind a keyboard.
Yes, those types of men are immature. Why leave a woman hanging? Just be upfront. If you're not interested , you're not interested. No need to pretend you are and mysteriously fade away with no communication m
Women leave men hanging all the time, can you blame us for stop trying?
I know my ex girlfriend would withhold sex all of the damn time and then she wonders why I would make her chase me.
because women like to be left hanging. The minute a guy shows he's keen they lose interest as he's suddenly became predictable i. e. boring
stop waiting and crying.
instead, forget and have things to do, go out, meet friends, have a full life where there is no time to be sad and waiting...
and the funny thing, that when we stop think of them and wait for them and have a full our own life, guys usually appear and call and text... bcoz they afraid u will forget about them lol
that whole thought in your mind of being clingy is really what is making things worse for you women personally for me I want a woman who is clingy to me
I kind of agree, slightly clingy is better than I never want to be around you!
@Psi_Unknown I don't get it it's like the whole female gender race is in fear of love or something
I don't like to make hasty generalizations like that about all women, or even a single woman who appears that way because of her choices, and I do understand men can be the same way sometimes. Who knows? Maybe everyone is in fear of love?
@Psi_Unknown could be yeah
@Psi_Unknown @cancerianman81 it's because we feel so bad when we're left. We can't compartmentalise. It's what makes us good at multitasking - men can work and play and live and set aside time and energy to mourn a great opportunity for a relationship and hurt feelings... I mean they're not robots but they can function better. Women, or perhaps just me, I then spend all day every day until it passes thinking of my heartbreak. I Am terrified of love. I just wanted lust. Why did I have to have feelings?
Are you sure you can't compartmentalise? Feel aren't evil; sometimes feelings just come out strong; it can happen to everyone women and men.
@Psi_Unknown - I'm not sure I can - it bleeds into every part of my life. From how I am around my family and friends to how I work and how I enjoy my free time. :(
if that's the case then you don't have a heart
I understand that some people go through pain and their heart is no longer there
me all I do is feel cause that how cancer's are we feel
so it comes natural to me
In my life there's been heartache and pain I don't know if I can face it again can't stop now I've traveled so far to change this lonely life
the best thing you can have is an emotional connection to the person you love
FUCK NO! I don;t make him wait for me! I don't use sex to control men! I am only going to have sex with people I am comfortable begin naked with! So stupid.
Who makes who wait? As the old song goes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkBvsBpgGboCorrection required , reverse the genders !! " I'm a woman, we get it - we withhold sex to maintain control, I know we do. " That's because you can very easily do this , most women barely have a sex drive & women view men more as a utility than a person , women far prefer other women for company over a man. Men are waking up...& walking away !!