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Pay for the first date? I bet OP uses men for food.
At the end of the day women are manipulative and decide whether they'll sleep with you within the first 10 minutes of interaction, after that all hope is lost or you're good to go. But you'll never know because some will string you along.
And let's not forget that they don't know what they want when it all comes down to it.
You'll never be able to appease these high demanding succubi.
Just another girl that hates men... Just go away...
@love2run13 classic projection. this is totally an "it's all about me" article.
guys mostly just want mutuality... girls like you make it all a mess lol
uh no lol. its called guys should be gentlemen. the best guys I've gone on a date with are the ones who are protective, nice, have lots to talk about, and offer to pay the first date-nine times outta ten i insist on splitting it but its not about the money-just like a gift, its the thought behind the words. in a relationship, i want a guy who would do anything for me just as i would for him. too many times have i gotten used by a man who ends up not giving a shit, a guy who just walks away after he knows what he did wrong and why im upset... if you really care about me, you better be leaving your friends for the night to stay with me and see why im upset and comfort me. cuz id do the same. if not, wtf are we, why are you here?
@love2run13 You are not worth the time of day... no guy would be nice enough for you...
@love2run13 Yup it is all about you princess...
Noooo... we hate men that do those things. So many of you are like this that it appears we don't like men.
@Bubbles123X if you hate a man for not paying on the first date, you're psychotic.
@Bubbles123X and you obviously have a buku entitlement issue. Any man should RUN from you.
@feminismisnarcissism Um. How you say? Whatever!
@feminismisnarcissism They don't actually. I have always had my pick and still do.
@Bubbles123X there's plenty of simps out there, you bet. I said "MEN". And as you get older, your tricks will get rusty and you'll find you can't be with anyone-that's what happens to narcissists. Drop the entitlement, you're head is up yo ass.
@feminismisnarcissism I'm older than you are. My tricks are not tricks. They are a sign of the self-respect that is lacking in gurllllz these days. YOu and others like you are making your own beds. Good luck. Have fun. That's what you're for. :)
@Bubbles123X I am fun, you got that right. 57 and still this immature? woah.
@love2run13 Have lots to talk about, so you expect all the guys to do all the work to talk? Hell no, you should take a look in the mirror.
@love2run13 but if you'd do anything for him... why would it start lopsided? That doesn't add up. If you want equal IN a relationship, you'd want to start OUT that way-which means no "gentleman" bullshit. Respect is mutual. and it starts that way, it doesn't gravitate TO IT later... get real-that's a mutual exclusion.
Seriously guys these days make it seem like girls who wanting a gentleman are demons. These are all basic things, texting back, investing some time and money to a relationship. Note that it said on the first date not all dates. We aren't asking to be spoiled we are asking for some basic chilvary. We don't hate men, if we did we'd be lesbians. Honestly you are acting like little boys if a girl expecting you to pay for the first date makes you so aggravated.
@Tanya77 Before you judge me read some of my posts...
I don't need to your comment says enough.
It's women who are the complicated sex out of both genders... even scientists can't fathom the female anatomy or existence. Lol trying to understand women is like trying to figure out quantum mechanics or how the universe works.
the person that made this entire post is a mentally slow person who dosnt understand anything think about let's say a family member and you time to yourself for a while "he hates me its all over its time for me to move on now"
@Mrwoo99 Not really they're just like any other person when you do analyze their patterns and reasoning often times it comes off as scummy
@InDetail ^^^^THIS ALL OF THIS ALL DAY
@InDetail how does it come off as scummy? Just because a mangina like you worships a vagina like a plate of gold.
This thread is now over two weeks old funny how it has kept going I guess I will write a counter take on this subject later...
@Mrwoo99 I don't worship them it's my ego if someone says something is complicated I will figure it out and in my personal experience vaginas aren't that complicated nor is the female mind, Calm down if anything you're the mangina for thinking they are however.
yea I'm surprised it hasn't stopped yet.
This is why I won't date you , you're fat and a unhealthy spoilt western femanazi. I like some who lives clean and healthy and not sucking cock in their mouth and shoving maccas down their skinny ass which will turn fat in 5 years from shit self control
Your Take is representative of todays generation of young men. I never let a date pay for any thing, and my gen never did any of the above. by the way, we didn't have cell phones. And we had to walk barefoot to school 2 miles each way in the snow; uphill both ways.
With packs of wolves and gangs of bandits round every street corner!
@sedrftvgyhujik don't forget the black Bear
It's funny how you claim this isn't meant to offend or disturb anybody, yet this just reeks of a huge call for attention and selfishness on your part. And you didn't even have the courage to post it non-anonimously.
Serious lack of character on your part.
We dont pay on the first date... Welcome to equality, You wanted it you got it.
I pay for first dates, but this cracked me up and so so true, lol
lmao that routine by KT Tatara... awww i'm sorry i'm old fashioned too... so why don't you shut your fucking mouth. ah, ah ah...
Lol this is so funny. You complain we take forever to respond, then you say we respond too much. Women don't know what they want. You want us to pay for the first date, but you want to be equal to us in everything. Then you contradict yourself w being to clingy, not clingy enough. Maybe it's not you who has an option in dating us men, it's us men don't want to date someone like you.
Hey, lol. It's like 'obese' and 'boney'. There is a middle ground you know.
@Bubbles123X ok well until women can all agree on what that middle ground is this is just funny. Never going to happen
It goes both ways!! We live in a equal world now. In my opnion , who ever asks the person out on first date, should offer to pay. You should both treat each other with respect. Both should care for each other. Everybody works, and has bills to pay. Dates are not suppose to be charity work. I have yet to date a woman that pays for me. So far my paying for dates has got me no where. We arnt And I am nice, i pay for dates all the time, and end up being "just friends," because i was nice...
The first one actually works both ways, you are telling me that i have to pay for your time? That i dont deserve your time so i have to pay you? The moment a girl doesn't want to split i dont date her again cause that is the moment she is going to be the most nice to me, so if this is her nicest form and she doesn't even suggest to split then how is she going to be when she is dating someone?
1. I would happily pay.
2. I would know her last name by heart, because we'd be friends first. Plus I'd rarely use pet names unless she insisted I do.
3. I would do the exact opposite! lol
4. I wouldn't be pushy at all, even if I wasn't shy as I am.
5. Ya, I'd be clingy, but would try hard not to be too much.
Somethings in this area true, but personally for me, I wouldn't expect a man to pay for me on the first date. If I had the money to, I would even be the one to pay for him, but I would the very least bring enough money to pay for myself.
Some good points but some things I'd like to point out. First, paying, we could through that back at you, YOU don't want to invest in it either huh? It's not 1920 anymore and I think a first date especially should be split. Just my opinion.
Second, too clingy I get, not clingy enough... this can vary SOOO much between women and some people have really busy lives. ie, where's the happy medium and how does one know? Especially in a new relationship with someone you don't really know yet?
I think whoever asked the other person on the date should offer to pay. I don't necessarily feel like it should automatically be the man. After all, it's 2016 and women make their own money now. It's a level playing field in the modern dating world.
Men should always pay, it's part of being a man. Just like a man should always let the woman go first, hold doors, walk her to her door. That's what a man does! A boy complains about it.
@tylerdurden uh no, that makes you a simp and an ironic one at that as tyler durden was not a white knight. get a clue-you treat ONE woman that way, not all women. they EARN it they don't get it for having a pussy or that just makes YOU a pussy "tyler" lol
@feminismisnarcissism you must be awfully lonely!
@feminismisnarcissism by the way you lame brain idiot, they get treated that way because it's called etiquette and manners. You obviously don't know a thing about women
@tylerdurden maybe I don't... but I certainly know how to attract them and be in control in my relationships. I'm not lonely, I live with a woman and I chose that woman from a pool of women I had been dating this year. And I had a POOL of women because I'm not a simp, like you. Simps don't call the shots, simps beg for scraps from guys like me.
@tylerdurden and no offense "tyler" but at 45 you should fucking well know better. You're way too old to be scurrying after women to lick their shoes-grow up, get some backbone and when you do-YOU'LL GET WOMEN.
It seems that what men consider a first date and what women consider a first date are different. Guys make it sound like they think of an expensive restaurant and girls are thinking of something like coffee.
Even if it's just a coffee date, spending $10 on every date will end up in a lot of money spent.
But it's not really about the money, but the reason why girls want the guy to pay. They say it's a way for the guy to show that he's invested and that he likes you... so how do girls show that? How do girls show on the first date that they're invested and that they like us?
That's what bugs me, and most guys.
@AleDeEurope we pay by our grooming habits and presentation of ourselves.
Also, if $10 is too much, how about sandwiches at a local park? Or maybe a walk through a local botanical garden (some are 100% free). The sandwiches at most bring you up to $4 for two people and most people already have the items to make sandwiches.
That means nothing to us. Looking good and presentable is something every respectable person should do every time they go out, not just for a date. So to us, that means nothing.
You're right on the rest, but it's a different case cause it doesn't involve money. We all know that most girls will feel underappreciated if a guy takes her to some place like that, a place where he doesn't spend money on her.
@AleDeEurope Not necessarily. There was a girl on here the other day who felt she didn't have to put any extra effort into looking nice for a date and didn't see anything wrong with just a t-shirt, jeans, and no makeup.
Also, as far as the picnic thing goes? Most girls actually find it romantic that a guy tried to put thought into a date instead of paying money. One girl I know loves it when guys take her stargazing. Another likes to take picnics in the back of a pickup after mudding. Most girls don't want money on the first date. They want thought.
That girl doesn't sound like a very respectable person... I wonder how she would go to a job interview.
Also, us guys also have to put a lot of effort on our looks, just a nice shirt is over $50. Pants are even more. Shoes will be at least $70, and if you add a jacket, that'll be over $200 just to look good. Girls can look gorgeous with a $20 outfit. What costs the most is the makeup, but most guys don't like heavy makeup.
But that's just a few cases. There's a reason why coffee shop and dinner are the typical go to's for dates, because most girls want that.
I wish most girls would care more about thought, but...
But still, what do girls do that us guys don't do, to show their investment? They really don't do anything, if you think about it.
@AleDeEurope we pay by letting you kiss us. Shitty but true
@Theaveragegirl but that's not something you do just for us, like when a guy pays, it's something you also do for you.
@AleDeEurope yeah, but it's such a risk. We don't wanna go to fast physically unless we feel you're invested.
@Theaveragegirl And paying for the date is what determines if we're invested?
@AleDeEurope no, but it's one way to show it
Well when you involve making statements about paying the bill then its common sense that they are thinking of a full on meal not just coffee who writes a bill just for coffee?
@Theaveragegirl the problem is that it's what matters the most to most girls. You can treat them perfectly, but if you don't pay, that'll mean nothing.
@AleDeEurope I think that's because it's instilled in our culture that the guy should pay. A lot of people think of it as a norm. Sad, but true. So when the guy doesn't pay, I would think maybe he didn't enjoy the date or doesn't want to see me further? I can see your point of view though, but for me it wouldn't be a deal breaker. And I like to pay for guys down the line
@Theaveragegirl well how would girls feel if the man and her went on the beach and had a walk on the beach
@CancerianMan81 I'd love it. I freaking love the beach
well there you go and also maybe have a picnic on the beach
to me you don't have to spend money on having a good time on a date with the prices of things nowadays you couldn't really afford to spend money of things
us people in this world are living in the times where the government is taking everything away from us and to me it's bullshit
Generalizing much?
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all these guys that down voted me. you're mad because I'm the guy your girl leaves you for, I would downvote too 8)
we dont want to date you because no matter how ugly we ourselves are we have been made to believe by our even uglier mommies and sis' and friends that we are beautiful just the way we are but we have no shame in calling even guys conventionally out of our league ugly because of a few flaws but the hot actors and male models can pee inside our anus without initial consent but we'll accept them as they are :)
Guys don't listen to this. There are girls that aren't this picky. Some of us can't even get on a date, what right do girls have to complain that your not paying for it. Getting even asked out is good enough for me lol #foreveralone
i figured it was some sort of satire
What simple man doesn't have flaws? We're all going to falter in at least 1-2 of these. Your standards are just to high. If you want exactly what's on this list, go date a gay guy.
Yeah, a little too lame - like one of those '26 things to do in bed' - when they're talking good sex.
All of this is common sense - and you'd date a guy you really liked through each and every one of them, so no thanks, passing on this.