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switch turns. Don't split it. And how many dates with how many different girls do you need to go on to find one you want a relationship with?
Quite a few plus I don't mind all the casual sex in the process
So you're open to casual sex with these girls but you don't believe in buying them a cheeseburger?
No, why? What about a modern girls life needs her to have guys buy her things?
You missed the point and I'm not going to waste my time on you any longer.
No worries was going to block you anyhow
There is nothing wrong with either side of the line and everyone needs to stop trying to make the other side feel guilty... they just aren't the one for you... cut your loses and find who is. That's the point to dating after all, finding someone who fits you and the whole taking the bill issue is a step to finding someone who will fit you.
It's okay for the guy to pay all every now and then. It's great to be a gentlemen. However, there is absolutely no way the guy has to pay for both all the time. I mean women have their own careers now right? Their feminism kicks in and tell them how they don't need to depend on men right? Well if that's the case, time for women to not be hypocrites and put their money where their mouths are and start paying for their own meals.
Exactly. And do you see the so called women commenting on this take. Their main arguments are
It's not a big deal (well obviously not when you just sit there letting a stranger pay your meal )
The author is bitter (obvious distraction technique that has little to with the topic even if it were true which it isn't)
I'd respect them more if they were just honest and say hey I like free meals I like the ego boost and the lack of having to pay but that will seldom happen
I am surprised by how many women are pro bill splitting though gives me hope
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The probably of the guy paying for the date is directly correlated with his desire to get into her pants.
While I agree with you, the Neanderthal within is starting to use Math on me. I can't win.
Can somebody give me the statistics on the relation between the probably of a guy paying for the date and his chances of getting into her pants within the 1st and 2nd date?
Better idea: stay home alone.
Advantages: no cost; no risk of a false rape allegation; no potential for a lifetime of child-support payments; no having to deal with a batshit insane woman (a quarter of Western women are on prescription psychiatric medication).
I totally agree. I don't mind paying for a girl but, I wouldn't pay for a girl because I'm being expected to. I'll only pay if I think she's good to me and I wanna give her a treat. Chivalry and courtship are out of date. Obviously they will love it because it's beneficial for them and obviously it will stick around for some time because many guys think that this is the only way to get a girl or because being that way puts you beyond the competition. Later they do realize that among the "chivalrous" ones is where the competition is most fierce.
Wow you mean are cheap as hell!! Pay for yourself and your lady geez. Your wallets so small that you need to start a "make her pay" movement to feel better. What's going on over here.
Increase your finances fellas. It's ok for a girl to pay, if she wants. And if on a regular casual lunch, by all means. But you're talking about outings like dinner. You guys make me sick, that I wish I had a toilet emoji to express it. Shame.
again with the finances! you have no idea what money i make. it's certainly a ton more than i need to take women out but what you choose to miss as you suck up to women is LOGIC. she has had every chance to make money. if she's out with me she probably has a job and money since i choose not to interact with people who don't both have their own money and family money because i find i have nothing in common then you want a man to pay for it because that's tradition? just get out of here dude... you don't know what you're talking about you're just a chump loser
I suppose I am just a chump loser... THAT CAN pay for his lady when we go out on a date and don't need to battle the "tradition" with some "LOGIC" speech to make myself feel better about needing women to help out on a dinner bill. Of course I don't know your wallet exactly, this isn't me trying to analyze your personality or your exact financial status mate. It's about your need to explain why woman should pay equally on a date or outing.
I could go into a huge amount of detail, on why this is pathetic and sad truly that men now feed the NEED to make woman pay half, but i can determine that you're already well deep into your mindset that this is what is necessary, so debating is useless here.
GJDM
Lol well at least you admitted to not knowing wth you're talking about and the fact that i have a lot of money totally destroys your argument but hey sucks to be you I'm sure you've sunk a lot of money on dates that could have been used for vacationing through south of France hooking up and the like but hey at least women think you're a good boy
who the fuck has three to five dates a week? I stopped reading at that point because that's just made up- not typical at all.
lol because I'm a male? I meet girls on the street all the time mostly coffee shops a few numbers a week there some tinder numbers a few from the bar then I also see girls i hook up with multiple times befor usually I have to end it because she wants a commitment. It's more weird because one would why the hell I would want so many girls to have to talk to
I remember being unemployed and a fat girl asked me out from an on-line dating site after I told her that she had a cute face. (she would have looked good if she lost about 30 pounds; proportional anyways) I still ended up paying for the date though she took me to her favorite japanese steak house. I gave her great advice about her job situation too. She got a big raise and was driving a BMW the next year.
She wanted to get in my bed that night. I made her sleep on the couch.
No shame if fatties your game ha
I passed. I was depressed and looking for outlet. Not into fatties... that's why she slept on the couch.
I disagree, I don't mind paying and I don't want a "gender neutral relationship". I prefer to pay and follow traditional male/female roles in the relationship.
That's just one element sex is really the only area a man needs to dominate everything else just demonstrates dominance but again it makes no sense given new dynamic of female earning power
you need to be trusted to lead. in things like finance and automobile purchases, etc. Unless you are a dumbass. Otherwise you will get pushed into making bad choices.
I would gladly split the bill if a guy would gladly split the house chores/rasing children. I woman split the bill if a guy is liberal only when he's expected to pay.
In my country, all couples split the bill and men always says it's a gender equality but they never share house chore never ever
*i won't. Not i woman
absolutely men should do chores. male dominance as part of the gender role should only be in the bedroom as well as in the relationship in terms of how the two relate and interact with one another but to do these behaviors that are these antiquated means of showing you're a man or you're the woman are entirely cultural and unnecessary nowadays.
Which country are you in?
This only works if you also have a job as good as his, if you don't work, or have a job that earns way less than his, why would he be expected to do the house work.
@fuuuark you mean that if someone earn less money he or she should do more house chores? Earning less money doesn't mean he or she work less harder. Don't make your parter tired alone
And in my county men never work at home even though women earn more and women always split the bill.
"Be prepared to see the ugly troll under the make up facade as some will become VERY ANGRY at this."
Which is why I always would carry this thing with me when the angry and overly emotional invasions are coming from the entitled person
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So freaking true!
Funny how I was getting hated for thinking this.
I will pay for the whole thing when I plan date night. Even if my boyfriend pays I still want to at least pay half if the food I ordered was pricey.
Id rather just say this "time its my turn." Then the next time a payment occurs and she forgets, I take that as a sign of, "this ain't mutual." Splitting it is gonna complicate shit
nah that doesn't make any more sense than one person paying the bill. why do some people seem to think putting two cards on the bill is a lot of work?
sure its still simple but what if there's some where she wants to take you?
i'm a grown person no one of either gender takes me out somewhere unless it's my birthday or something. if she wants to show me a place we can go together and split the bill. see, going to restaurants, vacationing, buying stuff is a reward of a job well done of a life well lived of a producer who's made something that people want even if its just a job thats a hire to someone else who made it. we can celebrate that success with this entertainment but not if one gender sucks up the success of one while enjoying their own. i don't care if it makes them feel special. consider this, women even ugly women like to say no hookups. in fact, ugly women especially like to have this policy why? because although they'll never be taken seriously as a girlfriend they enjoy the power that being able to control something men desperatly want. do women really want men to stop wanting to hook up? it would be a whole new ball game. just think about how'd you'd change on a date if you had no interest
would you still split the bill? would it even matter? no, the game would be reset. you could just enjoy one another as equals and see where things go but when you add these elements will she give it up if he pays the bill takes her to a nice restaurant is good on the date shows he's interested in a future with her whatever it is then MAYBE he'll get laid? that's some kind of hell bro that's some kind of hell. and when those same girls will go with their girl packs to a bar ignore all the guys but flirt endlessly with a bartender who's sees this every night then takes her out in the back behind the dumpter and gives her the sexual fantasy come to life of her life then my god, man. where is the sense in it? Here is what i'm saying, figure out your own values and your own sense of what makes sense for you because sex is not guaranteed on a date. what is guarenteed is that if you split the bill you'll at least have a nice time with a stranger who's values you respect and who respects your
values. thats the most rewarding part
When I go out with a guy we always split the bills, so yeah, I agree with you.
You wouldn't believe the amount of women I go on first dates with that rant and rave about how independent they are and successful and empowered yadadada more independence rants and then when it comes to going out to eat the minute I say let's split the bill, the look on these independent women's faces are priceless, a look of anger mixed with rage.
Exactly and instead of trying to make sense of it we have to be men make a decision and put an end to it. We really only have ourselves to blame for this antiquated system still going on
cheap and tacky
I can understand why guys are frustrated, social norms dictate that the person who invites pays, but straight women NEVER initiate the date so back to square 1...
But as the guy you should still pay, honestly how much is a cup of coffee or a walk in the park?
Some people work which means it's dinner or drinks time which is still the dominant first date. You offer no actual reason why a guy should pay except for that some people Think it's tacky. I'm surprised since guys on gag are usually more logical and less shaming
Lol, I was 100% sure this topic will appear again this month. Girls will say "You are pity but the truth is you are actually pity cuz you make the issue of it"
I mean She will make 1000 excuses but won't pay to hide the fact that, She is pity.
That's what I offer everytime I go out with a Guy
Guys are impressed more than you know even if they don't take you up on it
do you mean it though or you say it out of courtesy? do you leave a big ass sigh when he insists to pay... ?
@supernerd99 Umm I give mine n say to the waiter that we will pay seperately if he insists I say no if he keeps then I give up but usually they dont mind it in the and they dont have to pay for me I find it weird
I doubt u can daye a girl actually, u sound like a shallow misarable looser, lol.
I d pay for ur meal too and then block u everywhere, lol
I need a strong MAN near me, and real males dont have a problem to pay for girls
lol you're like a cartoon of the girl I'm talking about saying a real man pays any idiot can see that's a way of controlling someone through using shame as a weapon do what I say or you're not a real man thing is many women today aren't like this so we really hav no reason to care what you think troll
If you need a guy to pay for things in order for you to date him, you are by very definition a prostitute! he is basically paying to date you, and in turn he needs to make this payment to sleep with you, you are a whore ahhaha