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This is pretty much necessary if you don't make a lot of money and want to actually try dating. It can get expensive. Women need to understand that we don't owe them anything.
Even if you make a lot I mean before you are with someone dating is abou meeting a lot of people it shouldn't be women being taken out by all these different guys and men taking tons of women out. Not in a day and age where we make the same and treat women bad equals and not inferiors
Even if you make a lot you don't owe women anything, it's annoying that so many women feel entitled to special treatment. How can I take take them seriously when they act like they deserve better treatment than me?
I simply won't go out with girls who dont pay for their own stuff.
This is great advice that you give to straight guys. You have a point.
"Not all women will want to date you, some will just have a rule that the guy always pays" those women are by definition prostitutes
Count me out. I don't even let lady friends pay so I sure as hell won't let her pay on a date.
chump lol
Be careful , some women will easily take advantage of that, sad but you can't always be the one to pay for everything
I've never let a guy pay for me.
the hypocrisy of feminism:
"treat me equally!"
"men should pay the bill cause... vagina"... .
Solid. I hate when women look at us as disposal ATM machines.
That's tacky
Gold digger
Whatever its your mytake lol
damn right lol.
Lol. Buy the way I'm a very independent person, ain't no gold digger here. It was just an option of mine... anyways.
So how many times have you asked out a guy on a first date and paid? After all, it's tacky to split the bill.
I never payed cause I never liked the idea of it but that's just me.
All the dudes giving me thumbs down lol
You never liked the idea of what?
Paying for a guy, he doesn't seem very manly to me...
lol does this actually work? Questioning a guy's masculinity for not paying for the stuff of a complete stranger? If so they deserve to be taken for everything they got and I have no sympathy for them.
@notreallythere such is the fate of the nice guy he cares too much about what she thinks and falls for crap like this realizing that as a man he sets the parameters not her and if she still insists on getting her way she's a child better left to some loser out there who doesn't know any better that she can exploit. sure, we feel sorry for that guy but we can't save everyone until we save ourselves
Okay look, this is my point of view on this, first I come from a cultural/tradition background but I don't have high expectations from a guy, I don't expect exspensive dinners or gifts or any fancy or costly.
A ideal date for me would be a walk in the park having some coffee and great chit chat, now come on how expensive can coffee be?
Cultures and backgrounds change, especially when the only reason guys paid in the past (because women were barred from any meaningful job and didn't have money) changed completely. Unless you're in some Muslim country I really don't understand how you can still argue with tradition in these days?
And I'm far from cheap, I usually spent a lot on my loved ones, I spent over $1000 on my gf's birthday present but if a girl thinks it's OK for her to go to work and save her money while expecting me to shell out every time we go out, she's gonna have to pay her coffee herself.
Actually yea I am from a muslim country lol. If the guy was like you, I wouldn't date you. Not cause of were I'm from but simply cause its tacky to me... like I have all the cash for it and a big heart but its just really unromantic and a turn off..
Well, then I can sorta understand you. Muslim women are expected to obey their husbands and do everything for them, and there are a lot more gender roles than in the West. I guess you see it through your own cultural background then.
Women in the west are different, they want to behave like men in your country any time it benefits them and then wonder why men don't treat them like old-fashioned ladies anymore.
A guy not paying= tacky, a women not paying= completely fine? stop selling your vagina you prostitute
Well my background and Family aren't too oldfasioned, we dont exactly obey our men as they as they portray it... but yes they do everything for us and stuff but just because of that, like i said i have the money and assets but i dont prefer paying for the guy espeacialy on first dates but if we ate out oftenly then id pay for my own but never his lol...
@fuuuark i ain't selling anything here, i ain't no gold gigger, ain't no prostitute, ain't no nothing like that but a woman who wants to feel speacial and respected so there for he should pay.
But you will never pay for him
It's not about how expensive it is I don't think a billionaires son should have to pay for the coffee if he's dating someone who can afford coffee easily. Also you can't blame it on your environment you have a choice and you like having things bought for you admit it and unless you're ok with a guy telling you not to have a career then you're a hypocrite
Il admit it i like having things brought for me its a Great spark, as for the career thing im a very dominant person if id end up with a guy id make sure i would be happy...
@fuuuark sure i would pay for him on occasions like buy him gifts on holidays or his birthday or if im dropping but to see him then i wouldn't mind buying coffee on the way... but not on dates its just not romantic or appealing to me and the dates dont have to to be costly from walk in the park to even home cooked dinner is great :).