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Why most dating advice for men is bullshit (Page 3)
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I worked on improving my confidence and it made all the difference. I used to not even be able to begin to bring up the subject of going on a date. Once I got over the fear, I realized it was no big deal. Now of course that doesn't mean you will always have success and there is a difference between being confident and being cocky.
Ok dude, I understand your point of view, and I partially agree.
1. Physical appearance - Yeah, I like hot guys.
2. Social status - Not really that important, I'm not a very sociable person myself.
3. Material resources - It's a bonus, but not a "must have".
4. Preselection - Nah, if I like the guy, I don't care what other women think.
Anyway, you are right, self confidence won't help a guy if he doesn't look attractive, or (if the girl is a gold digger) - if he's not rich.
It's not realistic to expect to have a high success rate. You only need to be successful now and then. When I was younger, I hit on girls who werent single sometimes, but had friends or sisters who were.
If your rejection rate is really 90% then either...
1. Your going after really shallow, low caliber girls.
2. You have obvious personality flaws that are difficult to miss.
3. Your bullshitting on how good looking you are.
Quality women would at least give a good looking guy with a genuine personality a chance and confidence is only a drop in the bucket.
Be confident but dont be too confident otherwise you'll come off as a deuche and cocky.
Be nice but dont be too nice otherwise you'll come off as a weakling.
Be intelligent, but not too intelligent otherwise you'll come off as a deuche.
BUT... you can be as rich as you want
Females are a lost cause lol
You WANT your rejection rate to be high. If your rejection rate is too low, it means you're playing a game of trying to please as many people as possible by adapting your personality based on who's in front of you. If you're just yourself and don't give a shit, then yeah, most girls are gonna reject you. However, those that don't are gonna be the ones that you're actually after. They actually like you for who you truly are.
And if it's just about getting laid, then I would give it some thought as to why you're so desperate about getting laid.
I think your opinion is a bit skewed. You sound like you have your head so far up ass. That you can't see whats going on.
I have no problem picking up women when I needed to. Married now
Congrats to you, I'm interested to hear what your success rate was
success rate what success rate. If I wanted a date. I just go to a store or something. Where women go and start talking to them like I known them their whole lifes.
Thats how I meet my wife at the mall shopping. Married now for 25 years. Can't get more of a success rate better than that
Okay so you have met at least one woman who didn't reject you. And you're married. Trully a success story
As matter a fact I meet quite a few. Before settling down. Grocery, the mall and lingerie stores is where I had the most success.
That should be Grocery stores
Its not 'confidence with women' that attracts women. Its the confidence within urself that does. It should be visible from across the room
BOOM!! agree.. emotional projection. The feminine is reading emotional signs quite often.
Man, you sound like a dipshit. Do you always take everything so goddamn literal? Yeah, we like confidence. Does that mean it’s the only thing that we care about? Has anyone ever actually said that?
But congratulations on figuring it out and coming here with your blazing hot take that nobody fucking asked for. Good job.
Yeah, confident men don't really say "BOO HOO, my rejection rate is 90%. Women's adivce sucks!!!"
That sounds like a whiny, insecure kid to me.
Yes, it's pretty much been said that almost any guy can be successful with women if only he's confident. A guy goes to an online forum asking why women don't want you - just be confident man! People sell self-improvement books on that premise. Because women always have to look pure. You ask a guy he'll tell you "I like a nice body". You ask a woman She'll tell you "I want a nice confident guy with a good sense of humor". It's creating false hopes for many guys
@Optymistyk No, it is not creating false hopes for guys. I wonder, by your logic, why so many guys are able to actually be successful in the dating field and never have a problem with women. They're not "lucky", they just understand how it works better than you do. You have a victim mentality.
@Optymistyk Also, guys are picky about a girl's personality. Having a nice body is not enough these days. A respectable man will want a respectable woman. Having a nice body is never enough. If you believe that it is, then you are incredibly narrow-minded.
I do not understand why I'm being attacked and called names. I never once said a negative word about women in the entire take
Yeah 90% kinda sux, imagine guys don't approach you or check you out and when you approach you get rejected 9 times out of 10.
Yeah the guys I saw who are successful either Play the numbers game and approach women by hundreds or actually are popular or rich or handsome and usually a combination of those
Yes personality is important when it comes to dating, it doesn't matter so much when it comes to pure sexual attraction
I know, and I didn't mean to call you names I'm sorry for that. I just am very frustrated at how guys keep asking these questions. But it is uncalled for to tell us that our advice is bullshit too. Like, what am I supposed to do, I can't solve all problems for you. Women do like confident guys. But they know when you're faking it. It's like a woman (who got surgical procedures all over her body) asking why she keeps being rejected because she's fake.
I guess, women are not actively looking for sex like guys are. They just expect men to go to them, and then they can get sex from those guys because they don't have to look for a guy and make an effort.
This is not our fault. It's just the guys who get in this huge problem lol
@latinabutterfly96 I don't think I'm faking it, I'm pretty sure this is authentic confidence that comes from within. Not a tryhard showoff or narcissist kind of confidence but the calm "I know I'm good enough" kind of confidence. When I approach women I don't feel stress anymore, in fact when I get rejected I sometimes get a bit annoyed because I know I'm an awesome guy and it's too bad the girl doesn't recognize this.
Maybe you don't choose the right girls. Do you usually go by her looks first? Thats what 95% of guys do, and she knows she has a lot of guys to choose from, so she doesn't add value to you as a person...
I don't know. I know many girls (myself included) who are into cute, confident, cool guys. We don't all think the same way, so if this happens to you most of the time, maybe it's time to look at yourself. Why do they reject you? Is it because of the types of girls you go after? Perhaps?
@latinabutterfly96 let's be honest, I go after the pretty girls. I know nothing about her until I approach her so that's the only thing I can base my decission on. And yeah personality matters because sometimes I meet pretty girls who are so boring and awkward I get turned off. Or are downright bitches. But for the most part physical appearance is the most important factor for me, at least when it comes to flings. For friends with benefits or girlfriends I have a bit higher standards
Then, why do you complain that these same girls have high standards too? If only pretty girls are on your level, then these pretty girls don't see you as being good enough. Lower your standards if you get rejected most of the time as you say. It's kind of ridiculous how you have high standards, but you get mad that girls also have high standards. Honestly it amuses me.
A lot of guys these days, by going after pretty girls, are putting themselves into risk of being manipulated and played. You don't think these girls know they have options? They do. And they take full advantage of it (in a not so nice way). They play with all the guys and then choose a few of them to see what she can get from him.
Seriously... just get yourself a girl that's a good person, regardless of looks.
My best friend and I used to go to bars on a regular basis (cough, like every day) and every time we went, there was a guy she wanted to mess with. Like, she'd literally tell me straight to my face "Let's see what we can get here" or something along those lines. Girls do this all the time, and the guys think they're the ones in control or whatever
@latinabutterfly96 nah instead of lowering my standards I'd rather just match theirs. I'm an ambitious man. I want beautiful women in my life and I'm not going to settle for less.
I'm not complaining about women having standards, I'm complaining about the dating advice that gets you nowhere and doesn't make you more attractive to the opposite sex
LOL, ok, good luck then
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Well said. When men say that they can't find someone, it means just that. When women say it, it means they can't find the man they think they deserve after rejecting 95%
Finally someone with a logical brain that tells it like it is. The other stuff (that is, the bullshit) sells books and may make guys feel better for a little while because it gives them hope.
Not being boring helps. Being confident and self obsessed is a quick fire way to rejection
Don't worry, most dating advice for women is also bullshit.
Because they only told you a fraction of the truth.
Women have it easier in every way when it comes to dating plain and simple, there is nothing you can do about it, complaining just makes it worse and you will drive yourself nuts, just deal with rejection like every single other man has to
Yes, humans are animals, man. And animals are driven by both hunger and sexual desire. Correct.
As the guy from AMS Youtube always said ''men are success objects, and women are sex objects''
Yeah, too bad it's easy for women to look good, especially with all the makeup and plastic surgery avaiable, but there are no implants for being successful
There are different levels, and always exceptions. I know a skinny guy that works a low paid job, average looking too. He gets loads of girls.
I've had women attracted to me after they discovered some of my hobbies and knowledge. This has happened so many times. A girl showing zero interest, overhears me talking about something... then suddenly she's all over me.
If you want super model level females, then you will need to match their ego and their perception of what they see as ''success''.
Well I've never seen something like that, unless the guy is also popular or a dj or something, otherwise I don't know how he can do that
And even average girls have so much ego it doesn't fit under the ceiling. The times I was rejected by an average girl working at McDonald's. They can just go on tinder and choose from 20 guys of much better quality than they deserve
The only thing I can think of is that he is extremely knowledgeable about how to please females sexually. From how he talks, he has good insight. Despite what men have been told, it's the females that are sex obsessed and cannot control themselves, it's just less obvious. What other species has a part of the genitals that is solely for pleasure and no other function...
However, from my experience, women only show this side to men that aren't desperate.
Pretty shallow choice of words but eh.
You don’t see very successful men anymore, it’s mostly women pulling the weight.
Have you watched any of Alpha Male Strategies Youtube videos? I'd be interested to see what you make of it. A lot of guys in the comments talk about it turning their life around, and giving them a lot of success with females.
AMS is not wrong he just sound like a douche. I’ll suggest a move balanced approach, I’ll recommend Richard Cooper and make your life a bigger purpose than just chase girls.
Retype... Why it's bullshit for ugly people? And With this question I am responding the question itself.
This is bullshit. I'm attractive but not male model attractive and my phone number close rate just walking around day to day stuff is better than 50%!
Yyyyymh phone close means nothing. Most phone numbers flake anyway
Well if you trying to have sex right after opening you are stupid asf. Duh its going to be low.
Well actually you should consider the signs the girl gives you, because if she's looking at you doe eyed and you don't fuck her quick you might loose your chance. Also logistics.
But saying you have a 50% phone close rate is pointless because having a phone number doesn't equal having sex
Well ever in the entire world thinking being "confident" is going to make more than a small percentage of women fuck you instantly is just retarded. Maybe your close rate would be higher if you lived in reality. You honestly thought you could get like a 40% close rate? Lmao. Wtf.
Right?
Hahahah man why are white people so ugly
@kim45456 Guys on the left is super handsome. And tells the guy on the right just be confident. Get it?
The guy int the right is a litte above the average. It is not unusual in ararbic countries to see guys like that. I have seen a lot men like him in turkey
@kim45456 Damn we are doomed then. If this guy on the left is little above average then all the men population is just basically looks like Gollum for women. Omg incels are right :D
Ni i mean left
Hahahahq
I dont know what is average to you? Can you send me some pics of average looking men
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