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When are women going to start taking more responsibility for dating? (Page 6)
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I hear you... women should initiate dating more.
The thing that surprises me the most, pleasantly of course, is that a lot (most?) of the women who have replied are supportive of the idea. It gives me some hope.
i dont really think it should matter who asks out who me personally have never asked a guy out..
Are you looking for someone or do you not care?
Why not?
Women? Taking responsibility? Ah, you are making a joke!
Women should take more social responsibilities. chinese
Excellent points, especially about the Chinese.
Chinese women are scarce、There are -Tens of millions of men single（俗称单身狗）在中国目前有几千万，按照中国的一夫一妻制，可能一辈子找不到老婆。
Hey I'm Chinese too! 我要翻译。Translation: (Commonly known as the single dog) there are tens of millions in China, according to China's monogamy, may never find a wife.
那你们该出国去找妻子吧
It is difficult to go out to find the other half.
Because of money problems.
Visa and green card
never. they don't want equality. they just want the cake and not wash the dishes.
Women like gender roles when it's convenient for them at the expense of men, but not when they are at their own expense. Can't have it both ways.
I agree that they can't have it both ways, that's why I'm raising awareness! When women understand the things pointed out on this myTake they may be more inclined to change their perspectives and ask out men when they want a date.
It's utilitarianism. We're all greedy bastards. That includes women.
I know that, but we tend to be more generous when we're more aware of problems
What do you mean?
Can't fix something if you don't know it's a problem or why it's a problem
The word you seek is "never". Women will never take responsibility--for anything. They will ALWAYS find someone else to blame.
I haven't asked a woman out in 5 months because to be honest I haven't seen one I liked. Women who don't ask men out are afraid of being dissed and dismissed by a man.
Why do some of the guys on here want women to do all the work?
I dont. I'm not advocating a role reversal.
some of us are introverted and just aren't good at this shit
This comment is so legit man
Why is it legit? Where do I say women should do all the work. I have made a move on plenty of women, and I'm not gonna stop if women start taking a more active approach.
How is advocating that women do some of the work the same as saying that women should do all the work?
nah just make it closer to 50/50, also a more open society in general
You'll give men a much better approximation of what they can realistically go for, anyway, which is good news to anyone who complains that men go out of their league. If you never get any feedback about your appearance and are expected to do the approaching, wouldn't you start with your first picks?
Sorry what work do you girls do exactly?
I think a guy should ask the girl out but I'm not against the reverse. I personally used to ask guys out all the time, but because I was rejected each time, I kinda shy away from it anymore.
Basically what you experienced was what men are forced into, men don't have much of a choice if they don't ask anybody out they probably aren't going to date anyone. For guys, we usually don't have the choice of trying to get someone else do it for us because we're too shy.
Why do you think guys should ask the girls out? Gender roles
A guy who is too insecure to ask my out isn't the guy for me attractive guys are the confident cool ones who are actual men and ask me out
This isn't about telling men to not ask women out its telling women they should also ask men out, pay more attention.
To be fair, "actual men" to me does not include "is the one to ask women out."
Actual men are those who can show compassion and empathy while showing confidence and moral ground.
Who will step in when they see domestic abuse caused by either gender.
Who will hold and bond with their child knowing it will be important for their development.
Who makes a conscious effort to protect their community, country and the world.
Who sees the woman he's with as an equal with a voice, an opinion, and as a full-fledged human being.
He should demand nothing less of her than he does himself.
That's an actual man, and nowhere does it say "He's the one to ask her out."
If anything, he would be comfortable with her taking the initiative and making the plunge to ask him out. Even if it's not their first date. Even if it's their 50th.
Because he doesn't need to prove his masculinity. He is already secure in it.
It's better for men to approach, because our odds increase dramatically in my opinion. I know so many girls who never get hit on, so it makes things easier.
I'm not arguing that men should never approach, I'm arguing that men and women should both approach whoever they want to date.
you're living in an unrealistic world..
girls would like to approach... but, there are still many many guys who dont like it because society has taught it differently...
Dont like it? You do realize most men are thinking "I wish she would stop playing games and just say it" Or "Is she flirting I can't tell and I dont wanna get rejected and look like a fool if she's not"
@labellaprincesa Then why have most of the men on this myTake have agreed with me so strongly?
"women" and "taking responsibility" are like water and oil--they don't mix.
Hey, I have an idea! It's called, "Stop Being A Sexist Pig, You Jackass!"
Have you ever heard of, Single Mothers? Do you know how much responsibility it takes to
Have a job
and take care of children?
and what about periods? those take responsibility too! We need to have money to buy pads/tampons (which are ungodly expensive) we need to always have them with us and we need to keep up with our cycles to know what is happening when.
and then we ALWAYS have to monitor the way we are dressed in public! Covering too much? You're prude and will never get a date. Covering too little? You're a slut and if you get raped it's your fault. How do we know whats covering too much or too little? We don't.
and not getting pregnant? yeah that's our responsibility too! WE have to take birth control, WE have to get shots or patches or pills. WE are responsible for safe sex, even though there are plenty of options for guys! Shots, condoms, but it is left up to us,
But yeah, girls have nooo responsibility.
I'm not entirely disagreeing with you @awesomexljr but it's a bit unfair to claim things like pregnancy tampons and periods as taking responsibility because they're related to natural biological processes which men can never have and which women by necessity must take care of.
I agree with you on the difficulties behind being a single mother (there are single fathers though, btw) and the double standards behind womens dress codes.
As for birth control, that's a more complicated debate but there are simply far more options for women than there are for men because of your biology. It's hard to blame men for that. Yes men can wear condoms but that's pretty much all we can do on our end barring chemical castration. If you don't make a guy wear them then the burden of birth control falls on you because there's no other options. I know there's a male birth control shot but last I heard it was in trials and wasn't available to the public. I could be wrong on that, if so send a link.
LOL I love that.
Chicks need to step it up in this area as well.
Ya, if women are not so damn passive, George Sodini and Elliot Rodger could have been easily stopped from going on their rampages.
Ehh let's stay away from that topic.
That wasn't the girls' fault. You cannot blame women being unattracted to those men for their own actions. Only the perpetrators can be held responsible because they CHOSE to do it.
That guy was a unstable psychopath
ya well some guys just don't handle rejection that well
Yeah, fuck ALL the ladies for not wanting to date psychopaths. I haven't really read much about George Sodini, but I did skim through quite a bit of Elliot Rodger's manifesto. The guy was your typical loner freak. As he got older, he never did ANYTHING to reach out to other people to get to know them better. He basically expected THEM to come to him 100% of the time. And the way he behaved didn't exactly encourage anyone to do just that. I'm not surprised at all that people wanted to stay away from him.
He was a psychopath, he would have gone on a rampage for anything. I doubt a girl dating him could have stopped him from doing that. It's not our responsibility to keep guys like him from murdering people. That's the police's responsibility, his parents' responsibility and most of all HIS responsibility.
Hahaha Anonymous dude... Are you going to be one of them? o. O
I don't condone at all what those monsters did but I feel that if the burden of having to initiate was not always expected of guys there would be less lonely and frustrated single guys out there or just overall less lonely people in general if both genders initiated as much as the guy traditionally does
If Elliot Rodger had been approached more, he would have still gone on his rampage because he was unstable, the reason would have just been different, most likely from getting frustrated at women not liking him when they got to know him.
@Take Owner
Eh, you don't have to be PC about it. If he had been approached more, we have no idea what would have happened. He may or may not have done the same thing.
I think there were a lot of things wrong with Elliot Rodger, but I don't think people would be comfortable with me discussing them here.
I don't feel my answer was PC. It's my opinion that he would have struggled with dating just as much if women had approached him more.
What, did your balls fall off?
No they're right where they are, nice and even, unlike your eyes. It's like your left eye is migrating into your eyebrow dude.
Perhaps you dont understand the principles of lighting. Maybe thats why you see your balls as even, when in males, the left testical should hang considerably lower than the right.
I do understand the principles of lighting, but good lighting wouldn't make your eye be any further from your eyebrow, the only thing that's gonna make your face less crooked is a doctor.
Trust me brah (or bitch, which ever you prefer), my face is even.
I don't trust people who are known to be crooked.
You got rekt by the take owner, dude
@HappyToBeAlive, there is nothing at all wrong with your face. "ANONYMOUS" just has no good comeback for that.
I thought the crooked word-play was pretty clever. And if he didn't want me to make fun of his eye then he shouldn't go around antagonizing people.
Lmao
Take responsibility and go Mgtow
A man's job to ask a women out, plain and simple
Saying it's a mans job to ask women out isn't any better than saying that a womans place is in the kitchen, it's sexist and outdated.
Alright Mr. Progressive =) I am not a Psych major so I don't have all these radical ideas.
I'm not a psych major either, you don't need to be a psych major to think for yourself and to point out double standards and sexism.
Your preference, my preference, so many *weenie* men on GAG
The problem is stating your preference as a universal position. It works for you. Forcing your view on others (which is what you are doing by making "plain & simple" statements) causes other people harm. Is that your wish? Or do you just not give a fuck?
IF a chick wants to ask a guy out go ahead. But as a man I would hope a guy would have the assertiveness and gumption to be able to ask a female out. I stated my opinion my friend, up to you to agree, disagree, up vote, or down vote. @gray_sailor
prince is DEAD
I don't UNDERSTAND
men taking any responsibility as well? you are fucking demons pretending what she want. You are just a plain dead body demon coming out of it. you are dead!
Well I can't speak for other men but I think I am very responsible.
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go back to hell where you from in the name of Yag!!
... are you okay?
do you want me to show you the way back into your casket?
Is this misandry really necessary? I don't think I've ever done anything to personally offend or hurt you.
I am putting on a spell on every single men in the world: dead men stay dead dead dead
otherwise i will throw their corps into burning lava
Yeah no I'm not paying for any date.
Then no date should pay for you
That's a rather disgusting attitude, who gives a shit about his money right? As long as you have yours, everything is fine.
Again, I am not paying for any date
Nice to know you care more about the money than person. I plan on paying for dates in my relationship but paying for each other and being a team is how it should be. If you want want money seek out money. It sounds like you don't want a person.
Why do you not want to pay for a date?
Do you expect a guy to pay for a date?
Bitch
@ManuelMarquez THIS IS SO OLD
And yet your opinion is as disgusting as the day you wrote it.
LOL K