
He won't date me because I'm a liberal feminist, are political views really that important?


That depends on the political views. I find that feminist and liberals are the most aggresive about their views (not that conservatives can't be mind you). I also personally believe that their is no way to be a feminist and not hate men, its literally part of the ideology, you have to believe that all men oppressed all women for no reason other then they where, to use the colloquial terminology "sexist dicks" which of course is not particularly enjoyable to be in a relationship with a woman that looks at you that way. I also find that liberals try to rationalize and justify very bad things. Obviously it depends on the degree of the belief structure but if you are hardcore in these things that could be one reason why he refuses to date you. It could be that he is tired of the bullshit that liberals and feminist state and he doesn't want to deal with it because no matter how you try to avoid talking about it it will come up, multiple times you can't avoid it. Or it could be that he simply can't handle a difference of opinion. I have friends that are liberal they are good people but they do occasionally say things that make me want to slap them, same goes for my brothers some are liberal and they are good people but occasionally they will say something and I will have to force myself not to go off on them right then and their (like, "all republicans are racist and sexist" except that bush was a republican and his secretary of state was a black woman, and his secretary of defense was a black man and really more then half of your family is conservative so what the fuck is wrong with you. Things like that). So being in a relationship with some one of a different view would require he bite his tonge and pretend to go along with what you say even while it goes against everything he believes in because if he does say his opinion it will become a huge fight every single time. While I don't think its required to share the same beliefs I do think their must be some similiarities in belief structures and currently that is not the case between conservatives and liberals or any moderate and liberals.(I probably have a similar belief structure to your ex, I don't like conservatives or liberals and feminist but quite frankly I feel that liberals and feminist have done far more damage currently then conservatives have. So make of this what you will).
No one wants to date such a girl. I am not saying girls should do all the work, I will gladly offer help to girls but a girl will never be a man. We don't want slaves or obedient woman, but we want woman to be woman. It is always a pleasure if your woman cooks and do some work is a bit conservative, is is really nice and warm for the family. I don't want a wife to go out all day and fuck family and kids by just looking out for herself only
i'm married to a feminist who is liberal. millions of feminists are married. so obviously plenty of people date and marry "such a girl"
@Tatanum 2 feminist girls just disliked this, shallow girls I never offended you girls I love girls and I also said that I am open to help my future wife with any housekeeping anything! but she needs to be a woman. I don't want to marry a man, liberal feminist my ass stupid sluts who smoke, and go out all day without giving a fuck about family or kids. Girls need to have same rights of course as men, but don't need to act as men! This is why we are attracted to girls because they are softer, femine and we love that. We don't need slaves I repead, I want a strong woman that gives me ideas we discuss anything together and solve problems together, but I want her still to be the woman and me the men. I just give my dick to feminist girls nothing more. I want a woman who is responsible for anything serious with me, a woman with the natural instinct of a woman to create family, raise healthy and educated children
@madhatters4 I am sure your feminist wife is fucking with me or cheating you with someone else. Be careful when you wife goes out to meet her other feminist friends at the middle of the night leaving you to clean the kitchen
I want a conservative relationship where both partners are exclusive and the woman isn't feminist. This doesn't imply anything about womans rights, I tream my woman as a princess and she won't miss anything. If she has any complain she needs to say them to me and not cheat around. Of course if I can't fulfill her needs she is open to leave me. This is in short my opinion on a marriage and stuff. I dislike feminism and their slutty thoughts that woman should do anything they want, that it is fine to leave home when they want, some feminist say it is fine to cheat when they want and so on
watch how you talk about my wife dude. show a tiny bit of respect instead of acting like neanderthal
@madhatters4 I was talking about your wife dude, not about mine. Learn how to read first.
dude are you serious. read what i said again
"watch how you talk about MY wife dude."
clearly it is you who needs to work on your reading and writing
"I am sure your feminist wife is fucking with me"
I know she's not fucking with you since she doesn't know you
"cheating you with someone else"
i assume you mean cheating ON me
and why would i clean the kitchen in the middle of the night? or why would she clean it in the middle of the night. i'm not going to go back and forth because your mindset is sad and pathetic... but at least wanted to your attention the silly issues you seem to have reading my posts
"I want a conservative relationship where both partners are exclusive and the woman isn't feminist. "
seems like you have somehow confused the word feminism with promiscuity
@madhatters4 I was kidding with you man. I am busy I am fucking your feminist wife that's it can't write properly here. Go out of my comment now loser. I am a man and I never agree that woman takes control over me.
@madhatters4 What equal rights are you talking about? Women have WAY MORE rights than men. I think it's time to stop bitching about feminism.
my feminist wife doesn't control me. perhaps you should learn a little more about the wide range of women who identify as feminist.
@Tatanum don't you understand that he is a pussy boy himself and considers himself woman. He calls me neandertal for saying that I will provide anything for my woman and want her exclusive for me. He is pathetic
"watch how you talk about my wife dude. show a tiny bit of respect instead of acting like neanderthal"
no i called you a neanderthal for saying fucked up things about my wife. again maybe work on your reading comprehension
@madhatters4 English is not my native language. Anyway you can call me neanderthalas much as you want. I better be Neanderthal that being the woman in a relationship.
@Tatanum why would we admit this when there are billions of feminist who aren't doing anything like that? my wife is a feminist. she doesn't expect me to submit to her. she doesn't expect me to clean our kitchen, cook her food, etc, etc.
again there is a WIDE range of feminist beliefs. what you are talking about are more of radical feminists
@madhatters4 What you described in last comment isn't feminist, so you are backing off. The way you describe your woman now is not feminist.
@madhatters4 I'm glad you're happy with your wife. Yet, we can all agree feminists are never satisfied. You give them your hand, they bite off your arm.
not backing off crap dude. here's the literal definition of feminism
"the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men."
this is the point i'm trying to make. there is a massive spectrum of "feminist" beliefs. but what you two are describing is more of the radical "femininazi" perspective. feminists walk around you everyday. you probably have dated or are friends with them and you wouldn't know it.
the question asker here never suggested she cheats on me, wants men to be in a kitchen, or a man has to submit.
@madhatters4 Just stop.
@madhatters4 Ok, we can both agree that women have more rights than men, women are treated better than men both on the social scale, politics, economics, in every field; they have more privilege.
If feminists finally realised their goals, why are they still raising campaigns? The reason why some feminists went crazy is because no one stopped them. It looks like they don't know where to stop.
@madhatters4 Really dude. Stop.
@madhatters4 You are writing nonsense here, raping is a crime and has nothing to do with having equal rights. Those who are against feminism have nothing to do with rape. Rape is and will always be punished as a crime.
fine i'll stop. trying to fight the good fight. but i guess it's a waste of time
@madhatters4 YOU"RE not fighting the good fight. You're the type of person who gives feminists a bad name and everyone thinks we're crazy man haters who only want to take over everything. You're the type of person who stops progress more than anti-feminists.
please explain? i feel like i'm just triyng to say that all feminist are the third wave feminazis this person suggests
or maybe respond in my initial response rather than this guy's thread
@madhatters4
Don't waste any more effort on these fools.
@madhatters4 You wanna talk equality? How is it that a man gets a harsher sentence than a women for the same crime? How about custody cases that are biased against men and cause the kids never to see daddy again? How about we talk about combat and workplace deaths? 99% of combat deaths-men. Men are 5x more likely to die in the workplace than women. "Feminists" often tout feminism as an equal belief system, but that's actually humanism or egalitarianism.
@Sara413 Oh yeah? You mean by protesting against men's rights groups and men's care centers? Or wait, you mean by taking on all those brutal physical labor jobs? I don't see feminists lining up to take construction, mining, electricians jobs; only white collar and above because feminists believe in equality only went it suits them. "Equality," psst.
@Vertical807
That's cute. I have worked as a plumber, in a factory, as a farm hand... but those don't count right? I'm an exception?
Most feminists I know believe in equal custody after divorce involving children. But wait... they're all exceptions too, right?
Isn't that how it works? In your mind all feminists are evil man haters and any woman who calls herself a feminist but doesn't fit that narrative is an exception?
@Sara413 Where did I explicitly state "all feminists?"
Most physically brutal jobs are by men, so they can provide a living for their wife/children. A majority of feminists don't care about men and want to seek revenge for the supposed "patriarchy" they've been oppressed by. Why do you think most women are dropping the title and becoming egalitarian?
"Most feminists I know believe in equal child custody"
Yeah sure, actions speak louder than words I'm afraid.
@Vertical807
As someone who actively participates in feminist circles and speaks regularly with self proclaimed feminists, I probably have a better grasp on what the "majority" of feminists believe and do. But I can't be bothered to continue arguing with someone who bases his entire worldview off of preconceived notions, seeing only that which confirms his biases and ignoring or discounting anything that contradicts them. The confirmation it's is strong here and I know a waste of effort when I see it.
Enjoy your dating life going forward. I'm sure it will work out phenomenally.
@Sara413 Just because your in a "large" feminist circle that doesn't mean that they're the majority. There's Feminists throughout the world. Secondly, just because you say something, that doesn't mean you believe in it. Its like a robber telling someone he won't rob them, it's pure bs. You're really going with ad-hominem attacks on me with the last line?
This is why everyone knows feminism is bs, ignoring any argument if it doesn't follow their narrative.
@Vertical807 if you've read other posts of mine I've repeatedly brought up the disparity in sentencing. being for feminism doesn't mean a person can't recognize injustice elsewhere or can't support both
in fact i said it within this thread
For some people who believe in politics, sadly it is that important. Why it becomes so important stems from faith, religion and or belief system. At least you two found out that you weren't compatible with each other. Neither of you were wrong, so don't ever think that. I wouldn't agree with none of these movements for whatever reason. The point being is that if your in a disagreement, eventually in this society and nation we live in, your force to pick sides. He believes one way, while you believe in another. If you two were to get married. Either way he would be the head over you as your husband because he is the head of the household and you need to follow him as his wife. You may not agree with such things. So he was right to end it early. Dating is about process and elimination. You didn't make the cut with that. All you can do is find somebody else who shares yours views.
They could be, but honestly it shouldn't. Most people don't really care all that much about politics. But I will say that this election season may be the exception since we do have pretty controversial choices. What happened is that he put you in a box with all the crazies. You could be crazy or you may not be, I don't know. But he knew you better and decided to change his perception about you based on that box. It's unfair but people do this all the time with other things (religion, race, etc). If he wasn't mature enough to respectfully disagree with your views then he wasn't worth it.
it wasn't this election, its been this regime. since then those words have become negative. she choose to adopt them of her own free will, knowing what they ment and knowing a vast majority of the population right now is sick of both words. it has almost nothing to do with the election at all. as she gets older maybe she will truly learn what those words mean and why people hate them so much instead of just being fancy cute little activist titles.
Political beliefs matter more in a relationship than you would think because usually the party or candidate you associate with holds some or most your own values. So if he's against a lot of the things you believe in and stand for and won't support you in it, what's the point of being with him? I mean, he could've explained that to you instead of up and dumping you, though.
He didn't dump me or lead me on. As soon as we talked about politics, he rejected me.
It's not a deal breaker but I wouldn't date someone with polar opposite views. My guy and I are both more on the Republican side but our views still differ a little (especially about this past election) but that's okay. So a little difference is fine, drastic difference might present issues later on only because politics can't really be avoided
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Despite how most people seem to operate today, relationships are more than about mutual attraction - in order to have a successful relationship in the long term, you must have a high level of compatibility. Some differences can be lived with - and some are even complimentary - but other differences will always cause problems and tension, and political differences are often among them.
Political views may be unimportant to some people - they might have a high tolerance for people of opposing political ideas, or they just might not care either way. But to others, political views are very important, and where they clash, a relationship probably wouldn't work.
This is why finding a GOOD relationship isn't easy. You must find mutual attraction AND a high level of compatibility, and that takes work, and ACTIVELY "interviewing" your prospective partners to identify any "red flags" early on, before you invest too much into the relationship. It also requires that you've thought about your own views and are realistic about who you are and what you NEED (vs what you merely WANT) in a partner. It's very rare that you find a perfect match, so some compromising is usually necessary.
Not everyone is willing to compromise, though, and they tend to remain single.
Political views are not always :just" political views. They can reflect deeper beliefs about gender roles, acceptance of traditional values and beliefs, etc. I think that is particularly true for liberal feminism. I doesn't matter whether it makes sense to you; if it was important to him and it is a deal breaker, then it wouldn't work for him. . . and that means it wouldn't work.
As an analogy, imagine a smoker dating a non-smoker. To the smoker, it is not a big deal and they don't understand why the non-smoker would see that as a deal breaker.
Bravo. I knew I followed you for a reason.
Yes. Liberalism is a mental disease that only the naive and those suffering from guilt for no reason get. Liberals are T. H. E. most unpleasant people to be around. I've been at concerts, picnics, other people's holiday parties, etc, where there were bro-Nazis in attendance, and they were *on average* FAR more pleasant to have around than liberals. They actually listened to ideas counter to their own, and would consider the merits and flaws of someone else's view. I have yet to meet a liberal who would do the same. (Granted, it's possible I was around some neo's that were exceptional, but if that's the case, I've met the exceptions several times, different people each time) Liberals make my skin crawl. I know that if they had their way, anyone who doesn't agree with them would be sent to prison camps or executed outright. So much of what they 'believe' is just a regurgitation of Soviet/Marxist policy, and the Followers of Marx are responsible for many times the number of people that died in Germany's camps. Che, the lefty college student hero, killed hundreds of thousands in Latin America and South America. He was the executioner for the Castro regime for a while. Murderous psychopath, and this is whole liberals idolize.
And hatepigism... would you want to be around someone who blamed you for EVERY. BAD. THING. IN. THE. WORLD. EVER. and thought it was OK to humiliate, abuse, assault, or kill someone because 'it's only a female'? You wouldn't stick around someone like that for very long, would you?
Most men will put up with A LOT of bullshit. More bullshit than they should. But they won't put up with hatepigs, and they shouldn't. We want a companion, not someone living with us that treats us as both a competitor AND 'the enemy'.
And if you think for a fraction of a second that it's "just some zany 3rd wave hatepigs making all hatepigs look bad", you'd better do some more reading on what the 'mothers' of hatepigism have to say. They've advocated genocide against men, stripping us of rights (which they've gotten), slavery (which they didn't realize was already in place), you name it. Read some of what that horrible pig-Wookiee Andrea Dworkin has said.
But if you're a feminist, you've already read it, you already know it, and you agree with it. If not, you wouldn't call yourself a feminist.
*neo-Nazis
Never-sufficiently-damned auto-correct...
well he was old enough to know ur bat shit crazy and not going to compromise in the future and he just left before u caused any issues. u are going to cause all knds of problems for someone other than one of ur own kind. so it was actually better this way. if u are more of a compremiser then u need to get use to saying ur more politically nuetral and go with the issues instead of saying what u did. especially right now. no one wants to hear those words especially TOGETHER! that is not a girlfriend def not a wife material person.
@cipher42 lol , you judge people based on what they identify as, if you identify as something you're going to be judged based on that thing, saying iam X or Y but dont judge me because of it ignorant and rather stupid, why identify as that in the first place if you dont want to be judged based on it?
@IceCubeDude: The issue is not judging people in the first place. The issue is making ridiculously broad assumptions about someone based on a quality they have that doesn't actual entail them having the traits you are assuming they do.
@NexAngelus: Yeah, have fun making yourself look like an idiot without a real argument over there. And you know you just proved my point by making baseless and untrue assumptions about me? So thanks for supporting my argument there.
@cipher42 its really ok. u dont understand. i know. i pointed that out when i first spoke. i dont blame u. some day u will decide to grow past it and open ur eyes. maybe. till then u can expect people to treat u this way. i am only being honest with u. i dont understand why u are being so angry about it... ooo wait i do ;) hehe. i wonder if u are cute when u are mad? :)
@NexAngelus: Cool, so you legitimately really want to make yourself look like a condescending sexist idiot. You do you, but just know that anyone with a brain can see through your idiocy.
@cipher42 you can like it or dislike it thats up to you, but if you identify as something either own up to it or dont say your that thing in the first place, dont give me the dont judge or any of that bs , no one wants to be judged but we are on daily basis, its up to you to be judged in a good or bad way and i can assure you the moment you call you feminsist you've lost my respect.
@IceCubedude hehe ur talking to a liberal fem... its like a fish, u just watch them, u dont try to reason with them. see how much fun she has been already ;) and we barely poked her lol.
@cipher42 i dont have a side. as i never said anything about me... lol. dem colors, just keep letting dem shine full glory. be proud. ;) and since im a nice person, im an ACTUAL open minded issues person. so im actually all over the place depending on what it is. i have no ties or anchors to anything. but keep it up ;) its cute. i still want to know how cute u are. would u be worth a quick poke at least? for fun. i mean i could see dealing with u for a short term being fun. if u had some looks to go with it. but u are priceless.
How much detail did you go into? It might depend on your specific views if you discussed them. I wouldn't have a problem dating a liberal feminist but if she was going around saying men are pigs or women should be paid more or given jobs even if they're not the most qualified candidate then it would be a dealbreaker. Or if she was one of those so-called liberals who are constantly trying to tell people what they can't do because its "racist" or "sexist" or "appropriation" that would be a huge deal breaker
I will say yes because different political views also tend to mean different values. While some views aren't as important as others, there are going to some that are a must. I won't date a girl if her values are polar opposite to my own. At least he ended things there instead of staying in a doomed relationship. It allows both of you to find someone more compatible. And he told you the reason why so he is giving you closure. Sure, it sounds like he was tactless and he could have used at least a little tact but if I were you. . . I would respect the fact that he ended things in the way he did.
Much better than being ghosted and having no closure.
Political views don't just express, well, political views. You have to be a liberal feminist because you believe or act similar to that cause. With that being said, if he is familiar with the group's, where their beliefs, reactions, and so on align, and he doesn't agree with that group, how could it work?
What if he was conservative, and believed in pro life. You, as a liberal, would typically believe in pro choice right? Now lets say you get pregnant... what happens now? It just wouldn't work, just because they are political views doesn't mean its only limited to politics. He simply saw what you believed in, aligned it to what others believed in on that group, attached that to your personality, and decided that it wouldn't work out well.
They can be - SJWs and other militant liberals can be unbearable company, and he might have been afraid of that happening so cut his losses and ran.
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I think they are important. It says a lot about your personality, the way you view the world, men and women, children etc. He sounds similar to myself, and I know that on all of those things I most probably have different ideas and completely different values to any liberal feminist so we just wouldn't be compatible at all.
To some people yes. The older you get the more they matter for most people. It comes from fundamental beliefs you have and if you two disagree on fundamental core values why would you make a future with that person? I mean, unless you're a feminist in name alone but don't fight/advocate the bulk of their issues and don't make it a major part of your life. Because then it's not a problem. Kind of like a lot of people are "Christian", but they really don't pray, go to church or practice said faith. If someone is very religious, then an atheist probably won't want to date them. But if the person simply believes there is a god, but doesn't really do anything then an atheist probably won't care that much. Unless they themselves are a HUGE atheist and being atheist is a big part of who they are lol.
it's sad, but recently, with the rise of nationalism and populism in the UK, the US and Europe, and much of the rest of the world actually, people are becoming more polarized as politicians build divide and hatred in communities that have lasted for years, it's a scary time, and i'm sorry you have to experience this, i don't think, personally, political views should matter, it's usually indicative of personality anyway, so it's likely you'll meet people like you (your political view) just by talking to people you get along well with, but you do get anomalies, people who don't follow the normal trend, so i'm really sorry about what's happened to you, but in these tense times, i hope you can find love, i hope i can find love, i hope anyone can find love.
No they're not, he's just a little extreme with his views and likely unhinged. You're better off, you would have had to listen to him moan and complain about politics non-stop.
You know, couples are allowed to disagree. Interfaith couples get married all the time. They somehow find a way to coexists and have children.
If you're attractive and we get along what's the problem? I don't plan on having long drawn out discussions about politics in my relationship. Find someone that's a political, they're more pleasant a person.
What a good man. It's better not to risk it with liberal feminists, you never know, one day she may wake up angry and say you raped her or something like that, so it's better to stay away xD
Chapeau for your ex.
yeah a woman wanting equal treatment is pretty much the devil
@madhatters4 Never said that, but you can interpret it however you want ;)
and we should interpret feminism as women falsely accusing men of rape?
@madhatters4 If you think today's feminism is like the one back in the 20's, you're very mistaken.
i never said that. people's beliefs of feminism isn't all one thing. but the ideology is a single definable thing
@madhatters4 it's no secret there is a big, BIG number of feminists accusing men of rape, demanding priviliges because of their gender and whatnot.. very few women who consider themselves feminists are the old fashioned way, fact is that is a dying breed of feminists... all the opinion owner said is that is not worth taking the risk of being degraded by a feminist, but of course you and your shiny armor took offense and attempted to distort what he said
@bedroomdweller this was my response.
"yeah a woman wanting equal treatment is pretty much the devil"
does that sound like i took offense?
@madhatters4 ya cause you were unecessarily sarcastic
@bedroomdweller if being sarcastic means taking offense to you then so be it
@madhatters4 I met man liberal woman that actually believes there are no such things as false rape allegations which I saw happen.. run my friend run and never look back.. these women will destroy your life and won't spend a second thought about it...
Honestly, you are both better off without each other. Political beliefs matter in a relationship more than you might think. Couples with contrasting beliefs can impact between future decision makings on things like marriage and having kids for example.
Considering the entire point of modern liberal feminism is to demonize men. You can't really blame him. It doesn't stand for equality, equality has already been achieved its about treating men like shit and trying to cause a problem out of made up things like the wage gap and rape culture. Thus why less than 20% of women are feminists but 90% believe in equality. Because those two things don't mean the same thing.
Politics aren't, but dating a person with basic reasoning skills such as indicate at least a modicum of sentience are. Feminism is the best indicator of the opposite of this, as, like with what we are witnessing with the modern decline of the west, feminism, or some very similar iteration of it, is at the root of the fall of every major empire throughout history.
"Feminists destroyed the Roman Empire."
That's a nice title for an article somewhere in the manosphere.
@Noxifer626 No, feminism didn't destroy the Roman Empire. I said EVERY empire. Ever. Study some history outside of your approved reading list from the Ministry of Truth. You'll be impressed with what has been kept from you, and amazed at the stupidity of humanity to keep repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different result.
For starters, google "feminism destroyed ____" and name any empire you like. Or just dismiss me because I don't recite the approved propaganda, and best of luck to you in your future with that son.
yuppesr, the4h turning continues asthe cycles of historykeep repeatingt hemselvse.
@Noxifer626 but feminists sure did destroy Indian civilization of that I can tell you is absolute truth. India was legendary back in those times and admired by in a sheerly magnificent way.
@Rilect I was using the Roman Empire as a mere example, but if you wish, please go ahead with your inane ramblings, as they are mildly amusing.
It's more than just rejecting you for your political views. It shows a lot about who you are as a person and how you view the world.
Now I'm not saying being a liberal feminist is a bad thing... but if he doesn't align with those views then chances are you wouldn't get along in the long run.
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Well. . . You know how it is these days. . . (Just sayin')
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That dude looks like he's happy to be in that position tho.
@TheLuckyPizzaDog yeah. . . That's because he was drunk, at least I think he was. Have you even seen the video?
Nope. Proooobably not gonna see it either, I will just take your word for it.
@TheLuckyPizzaDog but you have to see it
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Hahaha^100
Tho tbh the caption was what did it for me.
@TheLuckyPizzaDog I knew you'd like it, that guy is a living legend and inspiration to all people
they can be. it doesn't have to but if people have extremely different views and those views conflict with the other person it can definitely damage a relationship
and especially something like feminism can be a relationship killer, as it seems to really fire up some people on either side... but there are plenty of guys out there who will feel similarly to you or at least be ok with you holding the views you have
it's unfortunate that so many people see feminism as one thing and seem unable to realize that just as with any and all movements there are tons of variances in people's beliefs.
not every pro-lifer stands outside planned parenthood hurling insults at doctors
not every vegetarian or vegan throws blood on people or screams meat is murder
not every feminist hates men or believes women are superior
not sure what kind of feminist you are but perhaps that's the impression your ex has
But aren't you a strong independent woman who doesn't need a man? bahaha
just because feminism says you don't NEED a man doesn't mean that a feminist can't want a man.
@madhatters4 What would they want a man for though? Everything they could want from a man they can either get themselves or find in another woman.
They "need" a man for kids, a hetero relationship and a family etc.
is men's rights simply about men not needing women? or is it about equality in areas where men are disenfranchised (divorce proceedings, jail sentencing, etc)?
feminism isn't about wanting or not wanting relationships. it's not about whether you need or don't need men.
@madhatters4 I guess i'll stop you there and say my irony in my OP was probably too subtle :P Don't worry i know what genuine feminism stands for.
The asker kinda answered her own question so i thought i'd have some fun with her.
I mean really, if the two of you don't agree on your political/personal beliefs then why would you want to date him? He sounds like he gets this.
It's a symptom of a completely different ways of viewing the world. This can make it difficult to come to agreement on a variety of things. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where certain topics were just off-limits because they resulted in an ugly argument. I think it would also be difficult to raise children with someone whose ideas are so different from mine.
Political views absolutely are that important. Your political views are fueled by your worldview, and a severe disconnect between the two of you in politics indicates a lot of underlying disagreements about other issues. So you can't just avoid talking about it, because those other issues will crop up from time to time. Make sense?
You're right, politics aren't important in a relationship - but ethics are.
Just by stating that you are both a liberal and a feminist, many, many things can be inferred about your morals. If he does not agree with those morals, it will lead to numerous disagreements/arguments/fights in the future.
Best avoided.
If you were really a feminist you wouldn't be making this question. Feminists understand that your partner should respect you and your political beliefs. I am a liberal and I somehow get how you could "not bring politics up" for this matter but how could you even be with someone who is not a feminist and doesn't see you as equal?
I don't care what your opinion is, as long as I respect how you came to that opinion. If you believe something only because someone told you to, then I couldn't respect that or you.
How ever, he may have his point of view because he was told to, and being near someone who disagrees is too hard.
You can't blame a guy for not wanting anything to do with a Feminist! That's like being upset a black person isn't comfortable dating a clan member.
I'd say it has more to do with what he expects a woman to do for him. Which I guess in his case, is cook and clean for him. A liberal, independent woman is too strong to now to his will and become his maid like that, so that's why he knows he won't get his way with you and backs off. Good riddance, I say. Saves you a miserable oppressed life in the future
eh.. I call bullshit I am with the same opinions of the guy that rejected her and guess what I cook at home every night for my girlfriend even though lol she cleans but not because she has too but because she loves me and wants to show her gratitude for the great food i make :) so no, it has nothing to do with trying to make your partner a slave to you, but of course, you are a little brainwashed so i forgive you.
Yes. If a woman is politically insane, I will break up with her. I can't risk her spreading defective genes to my potential child.
Liberal is alright I guess but a feminist with that.. nahhh.
Well feminists in the West tend to be quite rabid.
But it's probably for the best on your side. If I lived in the USA, I wouldn't want to date anyone who supports the republican ideals, the "right wing".
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They lack any and all forms of humanism.
yes they are. you never talk religeon or politics unless they bring it up. but if they do you avoid or change the subject straight away. you may not want to hear this but: guys dont like SJW feminism rubbed in their faces tone it down or cut it out for your relationships sake. yes some guys are highly opinionated on the subject so its best to avoid the fire storm and just stick to lighter subjects.
He probably wants a conservative, obedient girl who will take care of him. The relationship wouldn't have worked.
I can't really blame him, i wouldn't date a liberal feminist guy. Third wave Feminism is cancer.
you do realize there is a massive difference between a liberal or feminist and the "third wave feminist" concept
Like everyone else, extreme views, especially modern feminism are toxic. Can't blame him.
I think it's hard for people to get past their political views, especially men. I know it sucks. Also, don't listen to all these guys saying shit about feminism. Most guys don't even know what feminism is, they only know the stereotypical version of "feminism". All in all, you can try to get him back, but do not change your political views just to be more liked by guys.
Why would any guy want to date a female supremacist? An plus they are all just all unattractive from the get go of not being traditional or at least feminine and submissive. Feminism is all about wanting superiority, hatred, special privileges and self entitlement.
They honestly can all go fuck themselves because men are waking up to feminisms BS and rejecting it so the more men wake up the more likely it will abolish.
Your political views are the reflection of your intelligence, or the lack thereof.
Not surprised he would do that honestly.
Yes, depending on views, it can ansolutely make living together impossible.
If it is important to him, it is good that he brought it up and made it clear,
It can be damaging for some.
Yes. Having opposing views when it comes to politics and/or religion are 2 of the biggest factors that result in short lived relationships.
What don't you understand? Look how annoying liberals/feminist have been in recent years, its pretty obvious why he wouldn't want to date you.
He sounds like a douche. Be thankful you dodged the bullet.
I dont think u will ever get someone that similar to you... There will surely be such differences... In fact political views are hardly a reason for affecting any relationship. I'd just say, tolerate and rather respect each other's views and it'll all work so well :-).
P. S. yea it matters a lot if u both are from political field :-P
Yeah. I wouldn't waste my time on a feminist either.
No, feminism is damaging to a relationship, or humanity in general.
@Tarnygosh A woman feeling she's an equal human is not feminism, so I wouldn't be giving you an example of feminism to begin with.
Same here. I think me being a feminist is good for my relationship. I don't have some expectations women have. Like that my husband will have to work and he's no use if he doesn't. Or that he should protect me or store his feelings inside. Its more fun knowing you can be less of the tough sides of being a man and more of a softer human. And I can take burdens that were for a man
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Exactly! Our relationship is a partnership. We rely on each other and on ourselves. We both put in what we get out. We look out for each other.
If he doesn't like you for being left-wing, then it's safe to guess that he's right-wing.
Why would YOU want to date someone who helped put Trump in power?
He never votes and he hates the right wing too. But he hates liberals and feminists more for some reason.
Sounds like he just hates everyone.
He hates feminists b/c he's intimidated by them. You deserve better than that.
they are to some people , i know in my state you can still get in fist fights during the political season. its crazy how people act. i wish it wasn't like that. and i hope you and this guy can work things out.
Never cared much about politics, but yeah a feminist is a huge turn off, could never be with one.
How the hell does political views effect someone's love for someone? If that guy really rejected you because of your political view, he's a loser (no offense).
From the way he handled that, he sounds like a huge baby. You're luckier with your options open than being tied down to him.
@bobbyxx BINGO!
Difference in political views can cause a lot of problems in a relationship. Especially if you're at complete opposite ends.
Luckily I have yet to date a girl who was very conservative or a Trump supporter.
Yes they are.
Understanding the rights and roles for women and what you expect in terms of gender roles. Views of race, the elderly, are very important and can't be looked past. It's best you find out earlier and separate
It can be if they have a very closed mind and can't except that just because someones view is different from theirs they are wrong, stupid, crazy, etc...
Smart man, he doesn't want to tie his life with someone with a victim mentality who one day will see him as an enemy and will try (and probably succeed in today's courts) to destroy his life. Feminism is no longer about equality today is about hating men and victimhood.
It depends on the two people in the relationship.
When it comes to political differences, some people wouldn't be bothered by it, some people just can't handle it.
Aren't the liberal feminists the ones who think white women should get everything first before any other race? Yikes even I don't like liberal feminism
It can be, I haven't met a girl that I disagreed on so much that I had to just peace out but there would definitely be some things that would make me do that.
yes they are. if i was a guy, i would not date you either for those exact reasons.
Let me put it this way, I would date a Nietzschien atheist before dating a liberal feminist. A woman's political views are more important to me than her religious affiliation.
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