Why do single women complain that men don't approach them, but only go out to bars in protective groups?

[Dinotracks]

Why do women refuse to go out to bars outside of their established cliques? Even if they go to a bar with one friend be they male or female, this often advertises to the men around her that she is in a "private conversation" and doesn't want to be disturbed unless you are hulk Chad. This seems to be a thing in the city near me, particularly with the college girls. They'll huddle together and only converse with one another and then leave together. If you do manage to talk with them usually it will be short and excessively polite. But overhearing them talk you get the impression that they are actually lonely. I wonder why the females, particularly the girls under age 26, go to bars in groups rather individually like many guys do? Don't they realize they're making things harder for me?

[Anonymous]

What makes you think they are interested in you or are looking for a date? I'm single, but when I go to a bar with my friends I just wanna hang out with them and enjoy myself. I'm not going there to pick up guys. Most of the women are know do the same.

I know I'm coming off bitchy, but its the truth. Women aren't looking for guys 24/7. Sometimes when just wanna go out relax and have fun with our friends without getting hit on constantly.

[Dinotracks]

"What makes you think they are interested in you or are looking for a date?" They are alive, female and wasting time not being with me. That's all there is to it. If you're young and fresh and alive you are always looking for a date. Case in point: If Zac Ephron walked through the door, suddenly you'll want a date.

[Opinion Owner]

He is not my type so no I would not date him.

From your response I can see why you get no girls.

[Dinotracks]

That's nonsense. There are mimosa brunch bars for chatting with females. They are distinctly feminine and have overpriced meals on purpose to attract rich single women or married women with access to their husband's money to eat there. Go there if you want to while the time away chatting with girlfriends in a sexless environment (it's like when men go to sports bars to watch the game in a rowdy environment.) Don't go to a regular bar all dolled up then complain that men want to talk to you or try to roofie you.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not the one complaining, you are...

[Dinotracks]

"Women aren't looking for guys 24/7. Sometimes when just wanna go out relax and have fun with our friends without getting hit on constantly." That's a complaint. A princessy one too. You are looking for guys 24/7 you just aren't lusty for them all the time and only break frame for the "best" males. Case in point: You and your girlfriends are enjoying sex-free Belgian waffles at brunch, when suddenly Zac Ephron walks in and now you are generally interested in talking about dating again.

[Opinion Owner]

You're delusional. Good luck in your future sir.

[Dinotracks]

Thanks.

[lareina05]

it's a safety in numbers thing. usually, if the convo is short they probably aren't interested or playing that hard to get.

[Dinotracks]

Maybe bars should have like ipads at the front of the door for the females to fill out before walking in to indicate how receptive they are that night? Then the men could just check the ipad results and not waste time on the creepshamers?

[meatballs21]

They don't actually know what they want, hence the contradictory desires. They want a decent guy but will then present a situation that only the cockiest jerks will bother with approaching. Have you ever tried talking to a girl when she's with a group? Being cross-examined at a war crimes tribunal is the only thing I can imagine coming close.

[Anonymous]

Not gonna lie a girl being with her friends will make it 90% less likely I'd wanna talk to her. Being rejected in front of OTHER girls is a guy's nightmare

[Dinotracks]

Yea. Women don't seem to care though. You are cannon fodder.

[beebella]

Well, some women do this in case some asshole tries to roofie them.

[Dinotracks]

That's stupid. Just ask the bartender to watch them. Also they could sue the bar if that happened to them for failing to promote a safe environment or some such legality.

[Anonymous]

You need a wingman and a way to separate them momentarily

[dwiller943]

That's still not a reason to not approach us.

[GARY-]

I've said this before. College women are lost...