The common etiquette here in Chile is whoever invites pays... and don't give me that BS that women never ask, times have changed. Anyway, I would still offer to split the bill or going dutch.
Times haven't changed. You're either a liar or grossly ignorant. One of the most significant studies of its kind showed only a few years ago that less than 16% of women have ever asked a guy out, and none practice it as a rule. You use that BS rule as another means to take advantage of men, end of story. You can lie to yourself all you like, but intelligent and self-respecting men know what's happening even in the face of your lies.
@Chaz269 Taking advantage? why is that, when I'm willing to pay? If it hurts that much, don't even bother asking and just wait for a woman to ask you out.
You'll offer to pay, but expect him to refuse. Which he'll do since society forces him to, as not paying is seen as cheap, and most girls will refuse him a second date if he wants them to pay their share.
@Guanfei I've already paid for dudes, so I don't expect them to say no. I also don't make fake offers so if I say I'll pay I really mean it. The word "invite" here implies that person will pay. So if a man says "I invite you to (whatever)" and then suggests her to pay, of course he will be denied another date. However if the guy say "let's go to (insert something here)" it's okay to go dutch or split the bill.
I will also add that the women I date are usually 19 to 25. I always ask on the first date, "Why do you like older men?" The number one reason is "Because they don't expect me to pay [for a date]". They are struggling through college and getting their career and life started. They can't afford to pay to go out. These women figured out that if they raise the age of the men they are dating, that older men haven't fallen for the bulls*t that boys their age have, and will instead take care of them, making their lives easier, not harder.
Well yeah, everyone likes free stuff and attention. So why don't women do and buy stuff for men? I mean - EXTRA POINTS! Don't forget you're here to impress me! X'D
I think I do want really matter. If a girl wants to pay i will fight her for it but if she seriously likes to be financially independent and wants to pay I'm okay with that.
My ex would never let me pay. He said it didn't feel right. 🤣 I offered I actually really wanted to pay, but he side tracked me secretly payed. 😐 He wouldn't even consider splitting. 😓
Id gladly pay it a girl had no income say she stays home with family and does not work outside the home. If she has a job like most modern women she damn sure better pay her way.
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The common etiquette here in Chile is whoever invites pays... and don't give me that BS that women never ask, times have changed.
Anyway, I would still offer to split the bill or going dutch.
Times have changed, but women still expect men to ask, and therefore, to pay.
Times haven't changed. You're either a liar or grossly ignorant.
One of the most significant studies of its kind showed only a few years ago that less than 16% of women have ever asked a guy out, and none practice it as a rule. You use that BS rule as another means to take advantage of men, end of story. You can lie to yourself all you like, but intelligent and self-respecting men know what's happening even in the face of your lies.
@Chaz269 Taking advantage? why is that, when I'm willing to pay?
If it hurts that much, don't even bother asking and just wait for a woman to ask you out.
You'll offer to pay, but expect him to refuse. Which he'll do since society forces him to, as not paying is seen as cheap, and most girls will refuse him a second date if he wants them to pay their share.
@Guanfei I've already paid for dudes, so I don't expect them to say no. I also don't make fake offers so if I say I'll pay I really mean it.
The word "invite" here implies that person will pay. So if a man says "I invite you to (whatever)" and then suggests her to pay, of course he will be denied another date. However if the guy say "let's go to (insert something here)" it's okay to go dutch or split the bill.
I think whoever offered should pay.
I normally pay for things but I won’t be upset if she asked to split it
I think to split it is fair, but i also think that if someone invites you out for food, it shouldn't be a demand that you pay.
I always offer to pay the bill regardless of who I'm with, people can either accept or deny, I don't force it
The man should ALWAYS pay. If he can't afford to pay it all, he can't afford a girlfriend.
I will also add that the women I date are usually 19 to 25. I always ask on the first date, "Why do you like older men?" The number one reason is "Because they don't expect me to pay [for a date]". They are struggling through college and getting their career and life started. They can't afford to pay to go out. These women figured out that if they raise the age of the men they are dating, that older men haven't fallen for the bulls*t that boys their age have, and will instead take care of them, making their lives easier, not harder.
You don't have to pay but if you do you'll get extra points for it in my book.
Well yeah, everyone likes free stuff and attention. So why don't women do and buy stuff for men? I mean - EXTRA POINTS! Don't forget you're here to impress me! X'D
Well you'll get free stuff on second date if I like you on the first
Fair enough, sorry for bitching
No worries.. You don't get second time to give first impression specially if you like the girl.
Women who expect men to pay in this day and age are just selfish and greedy.
Most women I go out with insist on paying for their own stuff.
I'll buy the first drink. But dinner on first date? Don't be mental
Fuck that, go for coffee instead and avoid this whole drama.
The person who asks should pay, unless the other person insists on splitting, in which case they should accept gracefully.
I think the woman should pay as a way to show him that she is not a gold digging whore like so many are.
Depends largely on the woman. A real gem of a woman to watch for is one that will ask you out and make you dinner.
Man pay... That's it
Reasons, no need to say anything
It is a man's world, and it worth nothing without a woman.
Split that shit, they wanted equality so let’s give it to them.
I think I do want really matter. If a girl wants to pay i will fight her for it but if she seriously likes to be financially independent and wants to pay I'm okay with that.
My ex would never let me pay. He said it didn't feel right. 🤣 I offered I actually really wanted to pay, but he side tracked me secretly payed. 😐 He wouldn't even consider splitting. 😓
It depends on who does the asking. If the guy asks, he should pay. If the girl asks, she should pay.
I'm old fashioned. The guy should pay. If she wants to go halfsies, it means we're just friends, and I blew it.
Id gladly pay it a girl had no income say she stays home with family and does not work outside the home. If she has a job like most modern women she damn sure better pay her way.