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Instead of focusing upon the negatives perhaps try to make some positive goals. I would start by working out. The endorphins will help your attitude.
Also, how you dress can make a huge difference. You might research it just to see what works for your body shape, hair color, etc.
Then rather than lamenting the lack of funds look at training to get a better career. I know short, portly guys who are high school dropouts, but they $35 to $40 per hour as legal videographers. All it takes is some training - video services will often do on the job - and passing the notary exam, which can usually be done at a one day seminar.
Try these and just find something to enjoy. The women issues will take care of themselves if you do.
Well me doing that would be kind of Wasting the Years I put in getting a college degree so
Your problem, as with many people here, is that you only want to make excuses not to do anything about it and complain. You'll always be where you are now with this mindset.
You know you have to lose weight and things like that if you want a good looking woman. With the right amount of motivation that could easily be done. Instead you want to say "but what if I put in the work and effort and it doesn't work?" Do you know what's never gonna work? Complaining and feeling sorry for yourself, while acting defensively towards people who give you the advice you need.
You don't want unattractive obese women right? Women don't want unattractive obese men either.
Like I said I said I'm terrified of putting in the work and effort to find out I'm still not good enough
If I lose a hundred pounds which is right around where I have to lose with good looking women still don't like me that's like a hundred pounds lost was for nothing
That's making an excuse not to succeed. You know that losing that weight would make you more attractive, so surely you'd stand a much better chance if you did all of that work. Right now you stand almost no chance at all. I was a "kissless virgin" at one point, shy, getting friend-zoned all the time. I made no excuses and eventually I dated quiet a few women and had no trouble anymore. But it seems that most guys just want to complain and make excuses, I can't understand that myself.
After losing weight I'm
Short
Unattractive looking (according to women on here)
Poor/Broke I work and I'm in college so money's tight.
I have a lot against me still after losing weight
I'm also short, also not great looking, also was always broke. Again, those are all excuses. You can learn to dress well, get a good haircut, and when you're in shape you'll be more attractive. You can get a better job and earn more money.
The main reason you're unattractive is because of your mindset.
So why are you bitching about it online rather than doing something about it?
Venting and asking for advice
I'm pretty confident you already know how to fix the problem.
How ugly looking am i based on my picture? And if i lose weight but hot girls still think I'm unattractive then what am i supposed to do
First thing you need to do is fix your outlook. That's clearly your biggest problem.
You need to work on your self image first before getting into a relationship.
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Uhm. Dude this is perfect man. Just start going to the gym and getting ripped. Set a goal for a first sex experience a year from now. Once you start eating healthier, see your body changing, it creates a momentum of confidence. You will work hard in other areas of life. The rest will follow. You might want to see a therapist though.
I'm in therapy the last therapist I had I had a crush on so she got promoted the new therapist I have is not attractive so it seems like I'm not going to get a lot of help from her and if I lose weight but good looking women still don't like me what am I supposed to do after
Its a process man. Step by step. First change what you can control. Then change complex things. You can control what you eat and building muscle. Do that. Then work on whats wrong internally with a therapist. Embrace an ugly therapist. You csn talk real stuff without staring at a tit and getting distracted. Do each part of youself one step at avtime.
How many times are you going to ask the same question? As long as you believe everything you say, you will continue thinking and believing it. Maybe if you change your attitude and evaluate what is real versus what you've decided to make your excuse to not do anything to change. Most men don't end with up with a beautiful woman. There are a lot of women who don't make a mans looks the most important thing because it's not the most important thing. Quit putting limits on what a woman must look like for you to think she's good enough for you. When you do that, you will find that things get better.
If the women people tell me to settle for were the only ones who liked you, would you be content with obese unattractive women and then the rest of the world expects you to see them as conventionally attractive?
If the only women you can get are obese ugly women, thats on you. not women. The world doesn't expect anything from you when it comes to what woman you are with. The bottom line is that you are where you because of you. Until you fix your issues, you won't get a woman. You are so entrenched in the woman's looks like it's the most important thing in the world. You need to grow up and do what it takes to change your version of what's important. The way you do thing now are failing. It would be smart to change or you may never find a woman to be with. There are a lot of men with girlfriends or husbands who are worse looking than you. Don't respond to this message. We went through this before and you have chosen to do nothing. Your self pity is not attractive to others.
Look, if you yourself are ugly, fat, broke etc (I'm not saying that you are, I'm stating that's what you said you were), do you really expect good looking women to want you? That's the same as you not acepting the "fat" unattractive women. Maybe you can't really change your appearence (besides having a more healthy lifesytle) but you should get a job or something cause no girl will ever want you broke. We donp't want someone who depends on others money. Besides, it's really the thing that makes you unhappy the lack of attractive women into you? Cause, I mean, I don't want to judge but...
I have a job already. And yes because no attractive woman like me my life sucks I've had a lot of bad experiences with rejections and failures.
Here's a list of all my experiences
1st Friendzone/Rejection "**SARA**"
The girl i tried for in high school (24) but who friendzoned me is getting married to a scumbag piece of shit. (21) who cheated on her with a teacher She started dating him when me and her were seniors and he was a freshman he was caught sexting a teacher caught on the news and now the girl I want is marrying him and A TEACHER HERSELF
and now everybody is happy that they're getting married it's like I'm living in the Twilight Zone that people forget that he cheated on her with the teacher and got caught on the news. And the only type of women who like me or unattractive and obese so when it rains it pours. i hate my life and i hate her fiance.
AND THEN 2nd Friendzone/Rejection " **ASHLEY** "
**TL;DR**
Girl i love has a boyfriend and she's in love with him and it depresses me beyond comprehension that she loves him and she will never love me. I'm absolutely fucking depressed.
Everybody else wants them to get married except me, i fucking hate her boyfriend he ruined my life. I asked girls on here if he's better looking than me and they all said yes he was and theyd rather date him than me. Can anybody give me advice thats beneficial for me? Not advice that only benefits her boyfriend, cause reality is if you say "If you really love her youd be happy for her" or "move on", that has no benefits for me it only benefits her bitchboy punkass boyfriend.
And again to recap she doesn't love me she loves him nobody feels bad for me because everybody else wants these two to be married already and the only type of girls who like me or unattractive obese girls so I don't get a bright side or a silver lining or happy ending that benefits me all of those is a losing situation for me or I end up with either nothing or what doesn't make up for what I lost out on.
I told her I love her she rejected me then a week later she had me meet with her only so she can set me up with her fat ugly friend
3rd Friendzone/Rejection **ALEX**
My high school prom date whose a family friend and who i had a crush on for years, she made out with another guy in front of me and fucked him in his car and because she stayed at my place she invited him over to make out with him on MY DRIVEWAY.
**So tell me why should I have to die alone or settle for a fat ugly girl when all that bullshit happened to me?**
Well, but it's her life and I would say that she knows better than anyone that he cheated on her (or should). If she is still with him then you need to get over her cause I'm sorry but this is not a romcom and she is not getting with you. If you have a job then you are not that broke (I think). You shouldn't consider yourself a failure based on body count, for lack of a better expression. You need to stop focusing on it and focus on yourself as a person. I've been told that it's when people less expect it that things happen.
Dude, stop your trolling and GTFO! Your first two I'm ugly questions I replied to trying to give you good advice but now you are just irritating. Since you won't listen to advice I'm not gonna bother with you anymore. Just put a bag over your head and get over your looks.
The "advice" people tell me is "lose weight and find a better career, but don't expect attractive women after, aim for plain girls after"
I've said this multiple times and I will keep saying it. Giving you advice is pointless. No matter what anyone says to you you say it isn't helpful because it isn't what you want to hear. At point your looks aren't the problem. No woman wants a man with self esteem as low as yours. No woman wants to hear a guy bitch about how ugly and worthless he is. Work on yourself. That is my advice and now I wait for your reply where you tell me it doesn't help.
Cut me a little slack I've been treated like shit by women and then I get told to lower my standards to unattractive obese women or expect to die alone. Not exactly supportive.
You think you are the only person who has been treated like shit by the opposite sex? No. Get over it.
Besides you're acting like you expect a barbie doll and dude sorry to say but you aren't a Ken doll so don't go expecting barbie to come date you.
No people expect me to think 250+ lb girl is as hot as an Instagram model or else if i don't then I'm the asshole
What don't you understand? You can't get a hot girl if you aren't hot which you aren't and you admit it yourself. You are absolutely infuriating. You don't want to settle for an ugly girl, what the fuck makes you think a hot girl wants to settle for an ugly guy especially one who has your personality?
I ask for advice on how i can be more attractive and all you say is "you'll never be good looking" i mean why say anything if you don't want to help? What do you get out of cyberbullying at this point?
People give you advice. Your problem is that you don't take it because, once again for the billionth time, it's not what you want to hear. Good for you for trying to lose weight, it's a great step but your personality is going to have to change along with your appearance (weight etc). Don't be an entitled ass who whines about himself 24/7. Don't admit that you are ugly then say you want to date a 10/10 girl in the same sentence. Don't be a hypocrite. Personality goes a LOOOONG way in making someone attractive. You don't just need to work on your looks to become attractive, your personality also needs a hell of a lot of work.
Fine if i lose weight and get a better personality and still good looking women don't like me then what am i supposed to do?
I literally just answered that. Work on your personality that's what you're supposed to do.
And after that if barbie and Megan Fox still don't like you then I guess you gotta lower your standards because clearly at that point nothing else is working so if you don't want to be alone you have no choice, after changing your looks and personality.
You expect me to lose weight, get rich, get a better personality and be content with ugly fat women after? Give me a break
I never said get rich. Don't put words in my mouth. Unless you want to also date gold diggers you don't need to be rich.
And fine lose weight, get a better personality, try to get barbie or Megan Fox to date you and IF (I didn't say it won't work, I said IF because I'm not psychic. It might work, it might not, that is reality) it doesn't work then just be alone because that is clearly what you want. I'm fucking done here.
Reply as much as you want. I can't argue with you anymore. I might as well just argue with a wall because there is no difference.
Well, for one, your attitude sucks. Second, it seems like you're mad at women for not being attracted to you, which is deeply unattractive by itself. You not being good looking isn't why you're unhappy. It's your personality. NO ONE said you have to think unattractive women are "perfect 10s". You came up with that on your own. You're trying to blame being unsuccessful with love on your unattractive looks. Change your attitude. Stop blaming the women like "Ria Ciuffo" for not being into you.
"Give those girls a chance. They may be bigger and maybe not so pretty but they're really nice girls" that's the typical answer i get. Never "here's how you can improve your chances" its always "lower your standards and give those girls a chance" I'm sick of it
That doesn't mean you have to see them as "perfect 10s". Here's the thing, you said you're a "25 kissless virgin" and "fat ugly short poor and broke". Then get a job, lose weight, clean yourself up, and stop saying things like that about yourself. You're never going to be happy if you think like that. Looks aren't everything. Work on your personality, get a good sense of humor, get a hobby, you'll find someone.
I have a job and i am losing weight just because I'm complaining about it doesn't mean that I'm not doing anything about it and if I lose weight and good looking women still don't like me then what am I supposed to do
Hey, you dont look half bad dude, grow a cool beard :D
I wrote a mytake to explain my story from "Fat ugly kid with no friends" to... well i still not got many friends :P
Take a read if you get time, it might help you out
Be the best you that you can be...You are enough! ↗
It can't grow. It only grows under my neck and the rest is peachfuzz
Dude. Fucking stop. This incel shit isn't going to fucking help you and you're attitude makes people want to avoid you.
You're problem is you're not putting in the work. Its a process for a simple process. Getting bitches is fucking easy.
You're 26 which is a perfect age to make things happen. By 27 you could be fucking 7 and 8's if you get with the program and stop this self hate bullshit.
If i lose weight but good looking women still don't like me then what do i do?
I'm 5'5 230 lbs it'll take a year to a year and a half to lose 80 lbs if i lose that weight and hot girls still don't like me i worked for nothing
I think the problem lies with your attitude rather than your appearance, do not base the entirety of your worth on women, put them out of your mind, there is much more to concern yourself with.
Women are generally put off by those who seem desperate, work to improve your mindset and attitude toward your life, and attractive women will come afterwards.
There's no guarantee they do though
And to let you know, if your height bothers you, know that you are probably taller than me as I am only a little over 5 feet, so believe me when I tell you this, height does not matter anymore than hair or eye color, it only becomes an issue if you make it one.
That comes from those who are experienced in the dating world, so I think it is credible at least.
And personally I think anyone would be put off by a negative attitude, women or men, at least I know I would find it unattractive if a woman started telling me about how terrible she thought she was.
Well with an attitude like that it will be hard for you to have anyone want to be around you. Personally it sounds as though you need more self improvement before thinking about women.
Maybe find a life coach and join a gym to exercise and build self confidence.
I was too, not a problem, we all have to start somewhere.
Women are like rocket fuel... they are the best motivator to change and become the best you possible. some things you can't change... height, but a lot of it you can. your pic is fine, your attitude and self image is awful and will poison anyone else. your body... fix it! charisma... fix it! confidence, etc..
I see something i missed before that is encouraging. How do yoi feel?
You sound like me at your age. I wrote a mytake about this Be the best you that you can be...You are enough! ↗
hypocritical. You admit you're ugly yet get upset when other ugly people wanna date you.
I mean by your own admission you dont want an ugly partner so why do you think hot women would?
I'm asking for advice so attractive women will like me
That's not advice that's you breaking my balls being a bitch and telling it won't happen. And you expect me to fall for a 250+ lb woman and you expect me to think she's Megan Fox attractive or else i ask for too much
Great answer!!
Writer you're also telling me to aim low that shit isn't helpful
I'm dieting so I'm doing something about it just because i vent and complain doesn't mean I'm trying to fix it already
And what do you get out of hitting me with lowblows?
What she said. Your replies make you sound like some entilited ass to be honest. Expecting some high class girl when you yourself aren't measuring up to the same degree. It's fine to have standards, but set some for yourself too.
It's reality, not lowballing dude. Truth hurts sometimes, but it's better than sugar coating it.
I'm asking both of you what's so ugly about my looks? You're talking as if I'm a burn victim
And whenever I asked
"if I lose weight for good looking women still don't like me what am I supposed to do?" one will answer
*no one will answer
We are critiquing you by you replies and what you said. Your literally an "obese" broke dude you wants a megan fox and is seemingly only looking for a girl for her looks. " I don't want to get laughed at". The fuck dude? We aren't a pair of sneakers to show off to your friends. GET yourself together and work on yo1ur attitude, Maybe you'll get somewhere.
If they still aren't into you, then either change your mindset and behavior or look for a different type of girl dude.
I asked you both why do you consider so bad looking
I'm trying to lose weight i work and I'm in college so its not as if I'm doing nothing to fix my situation.
After all of my failures with women for me to end up with an unattractive obese woman or to die alone after everything that's happened to me is unfair.
What makes me so ugly?
Fine I'll answer you. Your weight, your personality, your behavior, your views, etc.
You need a man-makeover and some better game. Go here and read:
www.therationalmale.com
Some good content here as well: www.theartofmanliness.com
Do some reading, hit the gym, make a ton of dough, and you'll gain the confidence you need to knock them dead. Trust me on this.
You're average looking, but it's hard times for average dudes these days. The standard men are held to is higher now than it used to be and the internet makes it easy to look for something more than what's in front of you. Unfortunately all I can say is hang in there and persevere.
Do you seriously need a chick like her? I know it sucks to feel limited by societies obsession with ‘leagues’ in dating but there is such a thing as aiming too high. If you have no intention of being thin and are resigned to poverty then you can’t be surprised when women who are thin and look good enough to make a lot of money off their looks pass you up. Being short and fat and ugly hasn’t held down every man who endured it.
Who the fuck cares about attractive women? They all get fat and ugly as they get older anyway, and they're bitches in the first place. Just make something of yourself, stop being such a pussy and have some pride.
Old and use to be attractive is a lot better than old and always ugly and then even uglier later.
just relax, try not to over think and then work on things that you feel would help change the situation, if you say your fat then maybe motivate yourself to exercise and get healthy
If i lose weight but attractive women still don't like me then what am I supposed to do
Mhmm mhmm I see what your problem is. Consider everything you're doing, and then do the opposite
Your attitude is probably your biggest problem. Also, are you actually working to fix your flaws or are you doing nothing and just expecting women to flock to you regardless?
The good news is life can only get better for you from here. If you are being honest and have hit rock bottom life will get better. I mean it has to right? You said it's the worst today.
You know, you need to expand your notions of physical beauty. Of course a woman you date wants to feel appreciated and attractive. Don't you?
I get told to date women who look like Christine Sydelko but I'm obligated to think she's better looking than a perfect 10. I get no help
Here's a list of all my experiences
1st Friendzone/Rejection "**SARA**"
The girl i tried for in high school (24) but who friendzoned me is getting married to a scumbag piece of shit. (21) who cheated on her with a teacher She started dating him when me and her were seniors and he was a freshman he was caught sexting a teacher caught on the news and now the girl I want is marrying him and A TEACHER HERSELF
and now everybody is happy that they're getting married it's like I'm living in the Twilight Zone that people forget that he cheated on her with the teacher and got caught on the news. And the only type of women who like me or unattractive and obese so when it rains it pours. i hate my life and i hate her fiance.
AND THEN 2nd Friendzone/Rejection " **ASHLEY** "
**TL;DR**
Girl i love has a boyfriend and she's in love with him and it depresses me beyond comprehension that she loves him and she will never love me. I'm absolutely fucking depressed.
Everybody else wants them to get married except me, i fucking hate her boyfriend he ruined my life. I asked girls on here if he's better looking than me and they all said yes he was and theyd rather date him than me. Can anybody give me advice thats beneficial for me? Not advice that only benefits her boyfriend, cause reality is if you say "If you really love her youd be happy for her" or "move on", that has no benefits for me it only benefits her bitchboy punkass boyfriend.
And again to recap she doesn't love me she loves him nobody feels bad for me because everybody else wants these two to be married already and the only type of girls who like me or unattractive obese girls so I don't get a bright side or a silver lining or happy ending that benefits me all of those is a losing situation for me or I end up with either nothing or what doesn't make up for what I lost out on.
I told her I love her she rejected me then a week later she had me meet with her only so she can set me up with her fat ugly friend
3rd Friendzone/Rejection **ALEX**
My high school prom date whose a family friend and who i had a crush on for years, she made out with another guy in front of me and fucked him in his car and because she stayed at my place she invited him over to make out with him on MY DRIVEWAY.
**So tell me why should I have to die alone or settle for a fat ugly girl when all that bullshit happened to me?*
If i lose weight and attractive women still don't like me then what am i supposed to do
Ok you insulting me with the same line isn't helpful
And it's kind of annoying how with all those experiences you don't acknowledge a single one of them
No "attractive" woman?
That is hilarious!
Haha!!
Hello short fat guy. I am a tall fat guy. Nice to meet you.
A word of advice. Get over it.
Bro if your putting that your fat and ugly than how do you think woman will view you if you dont respect yourself.
I'm doing atkins diet but if i lose weight and hot girls still don't like me what am i supposed to do
Ya women have become very materialistic these days. Rare to find good Women like we once did
The new generation of women is mediacore at best 🤷♂️
Every think its your outlook of yourself. You want girls to notice you. Stop being negative about yourself. Thats a big turn off and make them run the other way.
That depends, are you looking for that perfect "10" girl?
Just not 1s to 5s and have everyone expect me to act as if they are.
Well the same could be said for you too. What are your attributes? What are you bringing to the table? Your described yourself so far as picky, broke, obese, and short. Now short and a virgin is fine, but the others aren't. I'd suggest caring for yourself and getting your life together before expecting someone else too. And your considered picky to me, because of this. People like someone with security and support. We don't want to be thinking were settling for a dead end. Your priorities need So e readjustment dude. So...
Stop depending on other people for your happiness.
I highly recommend just hiring an escort so when you do end up in a relationship, you're not totally clueless on how to fuck.
That'll have me feel as if I'm so ugly that i have to pay thousands of dollars for a woman to be willing to fuck me for an hour. Not exactly a confidence booster.
On some sites they say they're $750 an hour
At least you can lose weight. I'm physically disabled and probably no one will ever want me and I literally can't do shit about it. Cry me a river.
So what's the point of your little guilt trip here
Believe it or not, I'm trying to open your eyes.
People like you make me sick.
I get told to aim for 250+ lb women and act as if they're perfect 10s or if not then I'm a POS. I'm tired of it
No offense, but uh, did you not post this a few times already? The exact same thing, word-for-word?
I added the bottom part to explain more and i was not getting any help in the dating topic room
Got it.😏
" if i can't attract good looking women my life sucks"
I prefer Plain Janes. They tend to have genuine personalities and interests.
A plain jane or a large marge is gonna get me laughed at and trashed on.
I was a few weeks shy of my 25th b-day before I got my first EVERYTHING!! (First hand-hold all the way up to first fuck in one night!)
Are you trolling us or are you really this whiney and irritating? Cos chicks hate that.
He has to be trolling because he asks why he is ugly every day it seems.
You see Ivan, when you complain about be fat ugly poor broke and virgin and don’t do nothing to fix then you are of the big retard and repel the woman and no woman want kiss retard.
What mistakes did you make with regards to women you're attracted to?
ugly fat short and poor.
I don't think you're ugly. I can see that you're not exactly slim, but you don't look overly fat.
You're actually fortunate, because you have relatively masculine features, and a pretty symmetric face and good skin etc. Also, women don't tend to want a guy that weighs less than them, in my experience.
You're lucky, because all you need to do to become quite attractive physically is to find some kind of exercise you enjoy and do that. Maybe try CrossFit. If you build some strength, you'll look quite attractive.
Can't do anything about your height. Just live with it.
If it's any comfort, I'm 6'1'' and suck with women. My brother is shorter and has had girlfriend I would hardly even dare talk to, they were that attractive. I used to play soccer with a guy that was super short - he had a really cute girlfriend too. So there's hope.
Don't obsess about the virginity stuff. Let it go. Experience is overrated. When you do have sex, just enjoy yourself.
Look for a job (or go back to school). If you already have one, look for a better one, or work on getting a promotion where you are.
Above all, go out and meet some girls. Just meet them casually, through leisure activities that interest you. The more you do stuff like that, the more likely you are to get experience talking to girls and eventually more.
I work and I'm in college at the same time but if I lose weight but attractive woman still don't like me what am I supposed to do
Yeah but they don't help me cause of my weight they consider me a lost cause and know attractive women won't choose me
What I meant was more that if you hang out with them, their skills might run off on you a bit. That tends to happen with the people we surround ourselves with - they affect us. But maybe not of they consider you a "lost cause". You may find other guys who are. good with girls who have more hope for you.
Work on yourself lose weight, make yourself qualified for a better job. You're still young and you'r not helpless instead of complaining about it do something about it.
*you're not
If those ugly girls can't do better then why should you expect to?
I'm asking for advice so that i don't have to settle
Become better. Exercise, dress well. Focus on your career and hobbies. Be interesting.
And if i do all that and still can't get attractive women then what am i supposed to do
Accomplish those things and only then should you worry about it not working.
Girls try to flirt with me all the time.
At what age do you think I kissed my first girl?
Gee, everyone must really need to hear this story, maybe you should go on Oprah or Dr. Phil
Try to jus not care or find someone who loves you, you will no longer feel bad about yourself
Piss poor attitude mate. No one is going to care so help yourself, do something about it. No one else is
Take what you can get. Not everyone is a looker. Fat chicks need fucked too
Your advice is trash.
Gee, everyone must really need to hear this story, maybe you should go on Oprah or Dr. Phil
MGTOW
you idiot
look into it
(REDPILL LMS) watch the video
You poor, indoctrinated feminist. Women are evil and defective, on account of which they MUST be controlled! Wake up
It's okay. I'm 22 in the same boat.
Wow and I was feeling sorry for myself...
Just forget about it
i also hate my life
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