Would women rather try and tame "Savage Alpha Males" then simply just date nice guys?

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OlderAndWiser · Accepted Answer

There is no objective classification of alpha and beta males. There are some males who are more assertive and who seek positions of leadership. There are some males who are less assertive and who are comfortable to remain in positions of subservience. There are some males who think power comes controlling women and trying to subjugate other men. There are some men who try to mask their insecurities by projecting a false bravado that is often coupled with arrogance and condescension.

If we are going to discuss "alpha males," we need to define the term because it is somewhat analogous to "feminist," another term which means many different things to different people.

Logorithim · Accepted Answer

Some would yes because they overrated their ability to change a guy and want the "best" guy they can get.

Kas19 · Accepted Answer

No such thing as an alpha male. Anyone that refers to them as alpha, I stay away from.  As for trying to "tame" them, I don't know.

PinkMichae · Accepted Answer

I'd rather have a man that treats me like his queen since I treat him like a king. I don't know what that makes him other than awesome.

jennifer_bloom · Answer

Its not taming the guy they want but the challenge, ambition, strength, confidence, assertiveness and power that they want. Alpha males or males perceived to be difficult are associated with this quality. I will give you an example - most girls want to marry a doctor - but do they do it for money or for social status? I argue they do it for the societal background they will witness if they marry one because think - why aren't girls equally interested in rich guys who are born into wealth? Or guys who make the salary of a doctor but do it by psychic readings or drug dealing? Woman are attracted to power - and sometimes that attraction leads to making bad choices but most girls are too smart to fall for it.

ItzLaura · Answer

I don't like those types of guys because they walk all over me

englisc · Answer

Both have their good points and bad points, and they choose one over the other despite their bad points, not because of them.

"Alpha" males (the "alpha" thing is a little silly but people know what it's meant to describe)

Pros: confident, assertive, masculine, usually physically attractive, fun to be around, protective
Cons: impulsive, often untrustworthy, puts himself first most of the time, more likely to cheat, more likely to get in trouble with the law, less emotionally available

Nice guy (I'm not talking about fake nice guys/assholes pretending to be nice guys here, just the average guy)

Pros: caring personality, emotionally available, mostly honest, faithful, puts others first, respects wamen
Cons: lack of confidence, lack of assertiveness, not particularly masculine looking or acting, naive, easy to manipulate

The pros of the "alpha" have to do with confidence mainly, their strong masculine behaviours. The cons are all about their lack of impulse control.

The pros of the "nice guy" have to do with having a warm personality. The cons are about a lack of confidence and masculinity. Basically weak, unmasculine behaviour.

Women are most attracted to a confident masculine man. That's why "alpha"s are more successful - again not because of their bad behaviour, but despite it.

It's like the difference between a really hot girl who doesn't have that great of a personality, vs a below average looking woman with a great personality. The below average looking woman is gonna be less successful simply because she doesn't have the things that spark attraction in a man, which for us is mainly looks based. Personality matters of course - when she's attractive to us lookswise.

For women it's a bit more towards personality. Some when they hear that think "oh so women like a guy who is really nice", but it's more about the other behaviours I mentioned.

It's entirely possible to have the pros of both without the cons of both, though. Most women would prefer that.

Elena_the_Star · Answer

Yes, because he is obviously confident in his own self and not desperate for any woman. Bad boys and alpha males are different, could be both too but alpha males could be middle aged men too while bad boys are generally school or college boys.
Anyway, so most likely he is successful in his life and with women ( again because of the above). He might be emotionally immature and doesn't want to stick to one woman because he can get all the women in the world and he wants to sleep around and just have fun. No woman has been able to convince him otherwise, they have only been his one night stand or friends with benefits.
Then you enter in his life. The fantasy here for so many girls is that there will be something so good or special about you that for probably for the first time in his life, he is willing to chase a woman and keep her. He is willing to do the work. That makes you uber special already.
But obviously once you date, you’ll want to bring changes to his party boy/immature or single lifestyle. A single guy might be getting away with partying with his friends all the time or not wanting to make things Insta official with anyone, but that can't work with a girlfriend!.
So girls love to better these men ( not completely change them, rather only makes changes that make him more of a stable, relationship guy) which is also related to the nurturing side of women sometimes. The changes you make will only benefit you, in no way does it change your bf’s attitude to other people. You feel like you did something good and feel good about making your boyfriend a better man and steering him clear of his too hard approach to life/ immature lifestyle.
Again you become special because you are the ONLY woman who was able to do this unlike all the other women he is dating. So its like the ultimate challenge fantasy.
Wattpad thrives on his lol

MrMister5 · Answer

Usually this more along the lines of socially alpha males and guys that are stereotyped to be nice. What i mean by socially alpha male is they may or may not have looks or ever strength but they carry themselves in a socially approved manner in terms of how they dress yet act in a manner that is somewhat not socially approved on the surface but is approved of by society lowkey. While streotyped nice guys is assumed to be nice and everything associated with them such as being desperate or a pushover.

Now with being said, I think this generally true pattern wise but It's not as simple as this guy is an alpha I want him inside me type of deal. These pereceived alpha usually make them feel certain ways either emotionally or sexually. This is also most likely due to a degree of lowkey peer pressure (to have great sex, find a the best guy to show off to friends), being lead solely by passion, lack of honesty with one's self, arrogance, and possibly lack of experience.

The problem if this doesn't work out then the girl and the guys she meets in the future after that guy suffers unless this baggage is dealt with.

All "nice guys" a cureall? Hell no. Sometimes nice people are the worst and can be quite dangerous even more than the alpha.

However one of the biggest problems with these things alpha and nice is usually people are not only placed into categories before you even get to properly know them (so stereotyped nice guys who could be courageous and kind or alpha' s whom could be self destructive, etc it could be a variety if variants or twists). Then you end up possibly committing to this decision out usually quite shallow reasoning.

Tl;Dr version: yes I think so but it's a bit of a pattern based on stereotypes and limited scopes of situations.

hazedaii · Answer

Usually, a man who is strong and can fight is very attractive. A man who is scared to fight would be less attractive (I'm not speaking for all females.. this is just my preference). I would want a nice, strong man. Not a troubled and rude asshole. Don't confuse toughness with badness.

Doodabeat · Answer

Well, I'm far into the high end of the "alpha" spectrum and no woman has tried to "tame" me. To think that a woman would attempt to tame me without me being the one who chooses to sign me up for obedience training is absurd, and I can't imagine that a woman would risk losing her chance of seeing me again by persistently trying to tame me herself. If anything women want to exploit me to have a good time.

thatdudewiththeface · Answer

Usually "Savage Alpha Males" know how to throw punches get mad but don't really know how to actually fight and relax while they fight. I'm a nice guy I am NO "Savage Alpha male" but I do know many concepts from Krav Maga, Systema SpetsNaz, and Combat Hapkido. I'm nice but if that for the 3rd time "Savage Alpha Male" tries to harm me, I'll violate the laws of NATO and The UN on his arse. 👀

lightbulb27 · Answer

I think they want masculine traits, delivered in a package where they are treated like a woman, that means feel secure, valued, appreciated but also strongly desired. In short, they want to feel feminine, they want to feel good and satisfied. It shouldn't be so difficult to treat her well, but love and lust her thoroughly, which she will appreciate.

The "alpha" traits feel masculine and thus good. "Nice" is bland, does not feel good to most. Nice feels needy... blech, like salt that isn't salty... you spit it out! I don't blame them... blech!

In this writeup I compared women to fried chicken, but decided to erase that to avoid getting into trouble. I'm learning...:)

Lovethedove · Answer

I only searched for fellow adults. I love a wild adventurous spirit. But when life’s serious & there’s responsibilities they need to be able to step up as my teammate. Luckily my husband absolutely does.

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

We really need a better term than "nice guy. " It's now been used to mean so many things that it's almost meaningless.

I'm a comedian with gals that interest me if I don't know them. I'm a passionate romantic with gals I know better when I want them to stay. But I bring down the metaphorical battle ax on those hellbent on giving me nothing but BS. I don't compromise central values, no matter how much she's offended.

Thus, women's opinions of me run the gamut.

lifelearner011 · Answer

If your immediate expectations as soon as you are beginning to see someone in romantic terms are to tame them... I think that not only is a waste of time but also a pretty egoistical move.
Perhaps that's why I'm single, I wouldn't change a person, neither would want someone to "adjust" me to him.
I think as humans, we all have our differences, yet if this aspects can bring harmony and conciliate that's great if its not.. well its just another learning experience where you meet another person.
I don't think "alpha males" exist, I do think there are boys and mens. I want a man not a boy I have to "mom" him.

ChiTown33 · Answer

The answer to the question is "both". Women want a guy that exhibits Alpha behaviors ( doesn't necessarily mean he is one. Women are Queens of self delusion). If it works out fabulous. But if it doesn't she may seek out another "Alpha". If this continually happens, try and fail, try and fail. At some point she'll deduce Alpha males aren't all they're cracked up to be ( same with guys and beauty queens). This is called a learning curve some women learn, some women learn slow, some don't learn.

member53466143 · Answer

Gentleman nice guy out in public Savage alpha male when we’re alone in bed

boulshyte · Answer

hell no im not taming a grown man lmao go drain out another women im already exhausted reading this question

Adam_INTJ · Answer

You don't tame an alpha Male. You either like him or don't

The dichotomy is not alpha vs nice guy, it's a non-needy, up front, vulnerable, confident and honest guy vs the needy coward guy who hides his identity for fear of offending people thus he is "nice," but deceitful.

The non-needy guy comes across as alpha because he exposes vulnerable things about himself in a way that the needy guys can't stomach.

He's the one who will tell you when you've crossed a line, some embarrassing stories, and who he voted for president in 2016 (if it's important to him) and not worry about who he might offend. He let's the chips fall where they may so that the girl who talkd to him knows 100% of what she's getting. If she doesn't like it, he's not hurt and life goes on.

Nothing to tame in your non-needy/alpha Male. Just a decision of whether you like him or not. If you don't like him, you don't buy the product. Simple as that.

Anonymous · Answer

women wok in retarded ways. Logic and female thinking are like oil and water.
They are attracted to shit males and think for some fucked up reason that they can "change" the things they don't like, which NEVER works... men don't change and a douche-bag will always be a douche-bag.

shi-shi · Answer

Masculinity is sexy, there's nothing attractive about a doormat beta male.

Ellie-V · Answer

The alpha male stuff is some bullshit

Anonymous · Answer

I haven't dated or been in a relationship before, but after being friends with guys of all ages and personalities through my job, and dealing with a dad with severe anger problems, I am always drawn to nicer guys.

My best friend might actually fall under the jerk category, and he's very popular with other girls. He works out like crazy and is very charismatic, but he's really rude and judgmental if he doesn't like you, and he straight up doesn't see authority. It doesn't exist in his eyes. He sasses everyone. Even if they're a really big boss.

While I find this humorous because he's my friend, I wouldn't want to date someone like that. I'm really really sensitive and nervous, and I want to date someone who is sweet and understands my emotions better. lol

buttcrackjoe · Answer

Because the savage alpha males get more poosay. If a girl sees a guy beating poosay off of him obviously that tells the girl he is considered attractive and his seed is strong with the ladies which is good for her potential children and the selfish spread of her DNA

lernulo · Answer

I think a woman must date with a man who fits with her.
It means on my opinion don't tame savage alpha males, don't date with nice guys either.
Just try to mature until she can recognizes a real man.
First advice, if someone believe in alpha male-nice guy dissociation, very likely he isn't a man.
There are many types of men: generous, intelligent, strong, athletics, adventurer, funny...
If you define a man in the disjunctuve alpha-nice.
You must grow up, leave the house and look outside.
So as you can see how alpha beta relations doesn't exist in reality (yes, they exist but are more strange and usually goes to a toxic relation which I expect isn't what you wish for your life) and it's more a leader-follower relation in which the roles change everytime.

EclipseoftheHeart · Answer

Why take on a job as a lion tamer when you can get along with pussy cats that much easier? High Five!

Anonymous · Answer

Why do people choose to use these terms? Is it because they're too scared to use the terms weak, strong, superior, inferior, dominant, submissive?

If you use the correct terms, it's obvious why a woman would prefer a strong, dominant, superior man as opposed to a weak, submissive, inferior man.

Unfortunately, superiority itself usually comes with an attitude of superiority. Weak men call them assholes. Other superior men call them friends. We shit-talk each other and give the honest truth because we can handle it. It sucks having to walk on eggshells because you're afraid the truth is gonna hurt someone's feelings.

When it comes to women, they think a man should obey them even when he's strong and dominant. It doesn't work that way. Get a damn dog.

imgudluv · Answer

Some would and some wouldn't. If i knew he was savage before we began dating then I wouldn't date him. If he started to become savage later in the relationship then id try to tame him, but if he doesn't put in the effort to change then I'll leave him.

Nxtawm · Answer

I wouldn't say tame but I just don't like a nice guy as much, they tend to be gents and aren't able to act as casually as an alpha male. But I don't bother with training them cause it's not a problem I encounter, the "alpha" males that I've liked so far are actually nice inside once you get to know them and are caring guys. so yeah I'd rather an "alpha" male

Texaskid1 · Answer

Yes.  Women are attracted to strong Alpha bad boys. It gives them the tingles. Nice guys give them the Anti-tingles.

TheHillsRAlive · Answer

I voted yes... But... I would never try to tame him... I'm along for the wild wild ride... Done with betas

Cantelope · Answer

There is a sense of accomplishment to be the one that "ties him down" in a way, but that isn't to say that thats not how it should be. Dating nice guys can be difficult because sometimes nice guys aren't nice at all, they just come across as desperate. In the end, its the confidence that draws women to the alpha males, but it is the challenge that makes them stay

mattdzz · Answer

Strong guys are naturally seen as better providers (and protectors); so, it would make evolutionary sense that they're biologically susceptible to outward expressions of such a status.

Felinegirl · Answer

I want a decent person with an indecent (savage) sense of humor

MackToday · Answer

Some women would but being alpha and being savage aren't necessarily the same thing. Savagery is something punk kids try or low IQ types and crazy people. Alpha men are in control of themselves they decide when they're savage and when they're not. Otherwise they'd just be regarded as dangerous thugs and not move up the hierarchy.

stuntbrain · Answer

Behind every "savage alpha male" lies a deeply broken man's tragic overcompensation

purplepoppy · Answer

Why does being savage make a guy the alpha male? It makes him an animal not the alpha. A Rottweiler is savage but its owner is calm in control and is the true alpha.

AynonOMouse · Answer

Just have lots of money (or appear to) and give them way too many compliments and you can get them. Treat her like crap, cheat on her, don't follow through with plans you make together and just apologize and promise to do better next time, but actually continue to behave the same over and over and you would find plenty of women that would want you.

At least that is how many women around my age behave.

lovedejj_xo · Answer

Can I just have a guy that’s nice but dominant but not an asshole. Also my friend told us about the guy she was seeing and how dominant and a leader he was at work and with his everyday life but when they were having sex he wanted to be submissive af. That’s a no.

MannMitAntworten · Answer

So women are being asked whether they would date a primitive or uncivilized man who is the leader or dominate of their primitive/uncivilized group versus dating the proverbial, "nice" guy, eh? My guess is between the two option women would overwhelmingly prefer to remain home and invest in 'toys' and their imaginations to pacify their 'urges'.

Johnmiller123 · Answer

It seems like no one here knows what an alpha male is. I define it as the man you should strive to become. The man that works his ass off on his passion and invests in himself and takes care of his body. Always growing, confident, charismatic, and successful.

AlienParasite · Answer

As long as I know, those guys who use the term alpha male and specially on themselves are a big no and a reason to run away ceazy. Similar for those who consider themselves a nice guy. I prefer a more humble guy

Servus09 · Answer

The 'nice guy' is not even in the dating pool most of the time. The "savage alpha males" (assholes) play the numbers game. They don't approach women for their intelligence, beauty, or because they seem interesting. They approach women because they have a warm wet hole. There is no taming a guy like that and the nice guy is nowhere to be found.

Gummy-Bear · Answer

I think they prefer Nicer alpha males than savage alpha males. In the end they are drawn to masculine traits of alpha males. Nice guys are good too but unless they can protect their partners and try to be an alpha then it might not work. its hard to discern whether the nice guy has ill intentions. the savages on other hand act on basic instinct. Some may view being nice as cowardice.

Syrian_survivor · Answer

Immature women will try, they'll mostly fail and end up destroying their lives in the process, then they might go back to the stable nice guy to get their shit back together, that's why a girl's sexual and romantic history matters, I don't want to be used as a plan B.

dalibara · Answer

Is it too much to ask, if we just want a nice guy with balls?

GoodGuyGregGGG · Answer

Nice guys are wuss. Why can't the savage alpha Male be a nice guy and alpha male.

bamesjond0069 · Answer

Women prefer beta men. So many girls in relationships and married women try to hook up with me. But women don't want to date a man who isn't a pushover these days nor do they want to contribute anything feminine to a relationship. They want a beta boyfriend and an alpha for sex and to get them pregnant. Its disgusting. The last like 5 or so girls i started to actually date all came clean they had boyfriends, one was married.

Goodwifie · Answer

Nope nice guy all the way.

Anonymous · Answer

I accidentally voted yes but honestly that is not true. I cat speak for everyone but I love nice guys. I just always end up getting tricked into thinking my "nice guy" is really truly nice then end up with my heart broken. I didn't sign up to be with a savage he just pretended to be nice so he could blend in and get me!

Anonymous · Answer

what I find annoying & somewhat hilarious is how it's mostly the men who don't live up to the "aloha" term who are obsessed with being one

this is coming from someone who never in their life will ever buy into the term & at the same time has lifted 3x their body weight & has scrapped with numerous guys & live a "lone wolf" &
"I Am Legend" lifestyle & mentality & yet still consider myself as "Just another guy"

Anonymous · Answer

You can never tame a savage Do you remember the story of Tarzan? You can't take the jungle out of them It's a waste of time..

Anonymous · Answer

People always feel they deserve the best nowadays, even when in low self esteem, they'd rather pick a shitty alpha over a self improved tryhard beta.

slatyb · Answer

"Nice guy" and "Alpha Male" are not opposites. More often they go together. The "Alpha Male" is the guy others follow. People are a lot more likely to follow a guy who makes them feel good -- a nice guy.

sassygirl13 · Answer

If he is worth it.  For example he has qualities that have high value to me like generosity and politeness. On the other hand I can tolerate unromantic guy but not short tempered one.

Anonymous · Answer

A fair amount of them do try that to change the devil. Then they end up being played by the devil and hurt.
Then they shut off and call men pigs and look up at feminism to see the documented evil that we are being born with.
It turns out according to these feminazi articles that our testicles produce the evil hormones that makes us want to dominate as many women as possible and that makes us sexist.

/sarcasm

MzAsh · Answer

I’d rather date a good man.

DollySummers · Answer

I prefer the nice guy over the jerk. The only kind of jerk I want is jerked meat, and jerky

_my_fukking_anarchy · Answer

honestly I don't want to tame an alpha male, I want to be with one. I'm a bad gal, so I need a bad boy. lol.

genericname85 · Answer

Yes and here's why: a "nice" guy means mostly that guy is already pussy whipped by her so he already does everything without her giving him sex. A Savage, almost douchebag guy is a challenge and much more exciting.

Anonymous · Answer

Every guy or girl who goes around proclaiming “I’m alpha or your beta” is in reality vice versa. Deep down they insecure betas who overcompensate by acting like douches. Real alphas who are both men or women are at peace with who they are. They can be “nice” guys/gals but they don’t let people walk over them or if they did in the past they learned to stick up for themselves. They also don’t waste their time with toxic people.

They finish fights but don’t start them.

DevikaButts95 · Answer

Nice guys faces are easier to sit on usually. and they're less assholey.

angel166 · Answer

I'm more of a beta female myself so I'm more comfortable staying in my lane lmao. But, yeah. I prefer "nice guys" anyway. Not the Nice Guys™, though.

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