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Do women expect men to be mind-readers? (Page 2)
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In a way. Most women speak "in code". You just have to decipher the code of your gal. The better you understand her code, the more you look like a mind-reader.
I am not a code breaker and not about to start LOL.
Yes they do which I think is crazy. Cause I am not a mind reader , or know what your thinking so you should tell me what it s wrong
You have to have a psychic degree and take some additional courses in telepathy
Some do. But they're typically the unhappy ones... get it?
^THIS
If you don't know, I'm NOT going to tell you!!
Oh! So, I guess you'd rather suffer than tell me what the fuck it is you want so I can do it and make you happier?
Most often than not saying what we mean doesn't work either.
Well that's not helpful lol!
i know! lol trust I've tried with several of them. I do expect them to be able to connect the dots. Im pretty clear. maybe i just dated insecure dense selfish idiots
No, but too many men expect women to be mind-readers - so (for example) when he asks her out to dinner, she's supposed to know he means having sex afterwards (and gets mad when she doesn't have sex with him).
No but I expect common sense
Common sense to be able to read your mind? lol
No lol to not do something messed up. Like not slap my tit or something
I think everyone would agree on that.
You would be surprised, Coach
They slap it then claim
“they didn’t know- they can’t read minds 🤷♀️😐”
🙄
Ain’t that the truth
I don't because I speak my mind. Just speak your minds ladies!
Of course they do, I mean men are so magical and mystical how could they not know what I'm thinking 😮
It's not an expectation at all, it's just a control tactic, and a very good one. "I'm upset and it's your job to figure out why" is the ultimate "bow to me" demand because you're placing responsibility on someone else for your emotional state.
I agree, that it isn't fair for either partner to have to guess. I believe in a relationship that communication should be very clear, open and honest. This way there can't be any assumptions and the resulting hurt feelings.
I've never met a single girl who didn't expect me to be telepathic. Either I'm just dumb and haven't figured out some super secret power yet but I really can't read people and I love straightforwardness and honesty
I don't wanna spell everything out all the time.
Wouldn't life just be easier if everyone was on the same page?
Yes, but guys are always a page behind.
Jk.
Ouch lol
Exactly!
Well, I mean, this would be an issue if we are all one hive mind but we aren’t. If anyone has a feeling about something, anyone else who is not in possession of your mind or is able to read it will always be an indefinite number of pages behind unless you get them up to speed.
"Yes, but guys are always a page behind.". @mermaidia_lol Yes, we are. That it true. That is just a fact. 🙂
Well said, @Snakeyes7.
(mermaidia_lol don't take this as a criticism of you, ok? I'm tagging onto your comment because it's a seemingly simple comment, but it is not. And it has a significant number of male downvotes, so they disagree here.)
Ay yay yay. Men and women are different. If this is not acknowledged, and said neutrally, you just put the other on the defensive... or worse, offensive. Men live in a world of *much* more directness. Then they come into our world, full of nuance and innuendo, subtle looks and glares. It's not all that much better all the time. And then girls are mad at guys for not picking up subtleties.
If girls want a different interaction with guys, try a different tactic/approach. Be direct, tell them exactly what you want and what your expectations are. Then they decide whether they can meet those. And you decide whether you can be with someone who is potentially not meeting them. However, one could also re-evaluate whether those expectations are reasonable or not. They also may not be.
There needs to be much, much more neutrality, and tolerance of our differences, if people are ever going to be happy/content together, long term. Otherwise, relationships just end, one after another, with people coming to conclusions such as, "He/she was such a jerk." or "We just weren't a match." Guess what - no one is a perfect match. You have to work your ass off to adapt to each other. If both people are motivated to do this, equally, you can make a life together. And if they don't, they will be alone. And that's a choice too. I'm not saying "Everyone get married", "Everyone hookup". But I am saying, "Everyone, stop blaming the other sex. It's not all their fault."
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Yes they do!!!😂😂😂😂But guys are not wired like that to read minds!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
Women have their issues and just expect us to know why that are all the time...
If they do then women aren't very good at presenting to the target audience.
Men don't notice small things often. We usually need something clear and obvious to actually understand what you want.
I think cuz most girlsweretaugjt a guy should know what he did right or wrong by moms so moms make them feel we need to be trained if we don't know what is going on with them an great post 👍👍👍
Look at the results of this poll.
This site is MGTOW party 😂😂
It has nothing to do with MGTOW. It's simply true. Look at all the women in this question admitting it. I bet there are a lot more who do it, but don't realize it, or don't think of it that way.
MGTOW? Child please!
For the 1000th time, wtf is MGTOW?
@Jamie05rhs
Men Going Their Own Way. It's a "movement", that's mostly an Internet thing. It's basically guys who are frustrated with dealing with women, and have decided to not have anything to do with them. It's all pretty silly and can't be taken seriously.
Lol. That just made me think of Frank Sinatra.
But in some ways I don't blame them. In some ways.
@Jamie05rhs
Guys have always gone their own way. So have girls. People run their life the way they want. That can include the opposite sex, or not. Their choice.
But MGTOW seems more like a club for 8 year old boys. They build a tree house and put a sign out "No girls allowed". If they don't want to have a girlfriend or wife, fine. But why do they need to make a club declaring it? Just do it and leave it at that.
If you're referring to females letting men know that they find them attractive, don't worry, a female will make it plainly obvious.
If you're left guessing about her intent, you're not attractive.
You should go to a doctor. Why tf are you calling yourself incel?
Maybe because I'm 23 and a KHHV, it's not hard to guess why
What is the meaning of KHHV?
Ah I looked up
I think you are still young. I dont know it is so normal to me. In my culture we only kiss, have sex etc. after marriage
Man, you are twice as old as me. The answer is simple: train them not to by IGNORING it. They either learn how to communicate because it's 100% more effective, or they go batshit in which case you dodged a bullet.
Shoot never tried it with shrimp before! Heard about fried catfish though.
I think men and women both expect each other to read their minds (at least, from my own experiences).
Yep they all live in this Cinderella fairy tale. I don't have time for women who refuse to communicate like an adult. Disney movies are not how real life works.
Yes most of them seriously expect that. "He'll figure it out. He has to if he loves me"
No bitch. Open your mouth and say something.
I expect you to read the lines and connect the dots sometimes. Use some common sense.
Ha okay!
Well half the guys are mad... oh well lol
Ah the common sense fallacy. A very common tactic used in this topic.
If you say so
My late wife then, whenever she's distress and i can't notice it, its gonna end my day with lots of quarrels. If she's horny or hungry i must read it in her mind as not to cause trouble. Miss her so fucking much now😂😂
I do sometimes get that feeling, to be perfectly honest.
Some do. I just tell them straight up that I am dense to clues like that so just tell me. If she does, great. If not, I move on. Not into games.
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I'm telling you something about everyone instead - not men or women only.
Neurotypicals expect everyone to be mind-readers.
Many women expect it. Women should start explaining what they mean.
would be helpful!
No lmfao just not oblivious
Yeah, but "oblivious" is subjective.
Yes they do which is why they suck at communicating. They think it's necessary to drop hints and signs that nobody can clearly read instead of saying what the problem is word for word.
Now you're just generalizing and blaming and not accepting the other side. Both sides need to accept that there are major philosphical differences at play here. Subtlety vs. directness. Neither side is going to ever switch over completely. I suspect you will not be in relationships that last. You think it's doomed from the start. You are angry and you want to speak your mind, thus the anon. But it also shows you have no motivation to understand or to compromise.
@AmandaYVR subtlness does not get you anywhere. You want to know how men get girlfriends? It's because they walk up to her and directly ask her out. The subtle guy who beats around the bush will never get a date. The same thing happens with women. Most people are not interested in playing guessing games.
That is true, but why are you using the example of only the very first interaction? It is literally Step 1. Everything else that comes after that does not necessarily follow the same method. Imagine that couple, now years, or even just several months later, together spending time, and one of them wants something, or they are needing to make a decision jointly (large or small). Subtlety and deftness on how they each approach this, and trying to get their needs met without quashing the other's opinions in the process... that takes subtlety. Men are not always hammers, driving their point home. If all women stopped all 'hints' and subtlety, you men would complain that they were being too demanding. You wouldn't appreciate it for its directness. You would feel it a burden.
The problem is a lot of women are so subtle with the way they speak that it feels like you're pulling teeth every time you're trying to figure something out and believe me I've met women who are like that. And as long as you're being kind when you speak up to people most of the time you should be fine. A lot of people (especially guys I'll admit) come across as jerks when being too blunt and direct.
Ok I agree with all that. Nicely said.
@AmandaYVR thanks
I don't expect anyone to be mind readers and I believe that in a relationship communication is very important. I don't want to have to spell everything out though
I am like this when I want to show interest in a guy. I am doing my best to be more assertive.
Well I don't. I am a straight forward person when i speak.
My most recent ex sure expected that
I should also point out that she was very bad at reading me!
I'd expect him to be considerate and understand The situation without having to tell him, otherwise it's like talking to a 5 yr old
What does that even mean?
Now you got me confused.. What do you mean what I mean
What situation would the LOVE OF YOUR LIFE be so confused by that you would need to talk to him like a 5 year old? Please give examples!
Well.. I think my husband has Autism/aspergers, that I can't even reason with him and he can't pick up on any cues. Shows no consideration on any given situation
What do you mean you think he does? You don't know for sure? If he does than yeah you might have a point here! I mean really?
He hasn't been diagnosed.. And stop writing to me like I'm a dumb blonde 😑
If he does have asbepergers, then simply speaking literally and giving the 'why and how' of the problem is a good way to go.
My college roommate has aspergers and told me this. It has been hugely helpful and we are now close friends.
Okay sorry. Thanks for the comments.
Thank you boppy 👍
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Women: "No, but he should just know."
In other words, yes.
Is this really a question? Of course they do!
This is literally why I am turning gay and will begin enjoying sucking dik!
Women expect men to think like women if that makes sense
Women are ditzy, chicks.. Then they wonder why men only want sex. They are spoiled childish brats. Daddies put them on a pedestal. Never learn grownup adult lessons..
Almost. Except if he does get it right, inquiries arise..
Some do and those who do are just a coward to speak up.
Yes, Women expect men to play their childish games and stupid shit tests.
Women who do this will behave this way towards other women too. It’s just their personality, albeit a very irrational one.
They want us to be passionate and understanding and sensitive to their needs
I know the lady im in love with hates me 80% of the time... True story
Yes, it's difficult to understand their expressions.
We just want men to think with their brain instead of their dicks.
If they stopped that very few men would get married. The dicks rule men, the woman that can contain that dick will be boss. Men are simple, they just want sex.
So men are like animals who only follow their instincs?
Nah but it always plays a part
Well, if anything, the dicks are the ones telling us it’s a trap lol.
Depends on the woman. I would say generally yes.
B. I don't. At least not me!
We need support not criticism
Is the pope Catholic?
He is more of "The Holy See" then catholic. More like a govt official!
Yes they absolutely do.
Some most certainly do.
I know my mother does.
Yesn't
Whomst'd've'nt
And very stick to details