Depends on how you define fat. The stereotypical chubby or a few pounds extra or as some people say thicc. I don't mind that, I'd date her, the weight doesn't bother me. But if you're talking morbidly obese with unhealthy eating habits and no form of exercise, no thank you. I'm a martial arts practitioner a d I try to keep my body fit and strong and I like a lot of adventure sports like rock climbing and rappelling. I'd like to have a partner who can do these with me.
Now in terms of most guys, they will want a partner they find attractive and a lot of them don't find fat girls unattractive, it's unfair but that's how it is, just like women are less likely to be attracted to short guys, it's how people are, can't change that.
That’s like saying that women who don’t date any male who shows her attention is shallow and selfish. How dare they have standards and expectations for a partner...
When if comes to shallow... men are much less shallow than women. We have ONE criteria, don’t be fat. Outside of that our range of what we find attractive is a large majority of the female sex.
Women on the other hand have endless numbers of bullshit they expect from a male before they will even take down the creepy pervert label they give us all by default. And they only find about 1% of men attractive.
So when it comes to bitching about shallow, You might just want to sit down.
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I don't see many women with fat guys either! Just sayin' lol
For some, it's more because of health, it's important to them and it is hard to be with someone that doesn't share that importance with you. I don't feel that way generally, but I do understand how they feel. I get it. One of my ex's, I liked her a lot, but she was overweight, which I accepted and it didn't change that, but what it did affect was daily lifestyles. When we'd get together for example and go out and do things, she'd get tired very easily and quickly and we'd have to stop, meanwhile I was fine and just starting to enjoy what we were doing. Also as feelings developed, I started to get very concerned about her health due to her weight and lifestyle.
But you are right, PEOPLE (women also) tend to be really shallow. A lot of the time, people tend to only look on the outside to "judge", and don't bother to get to know the person at all.
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In reading some responses, I also have to point out women and height!! This is huge and no different. SO many women have height of the guy as a "deal breaker", which blows my mind! Really? Wow!
But but but I am nice guy, why do women date the assholes for? Why don't they give the nice guy a chance to make things right? I'll shower them with love and care and treat them like a princess m'lady D:< Women are shallow and dumb for going for assholes that break their hearts when a guy like me will give them the world!!1111
Not srs rant, but I can use the same argument type as you. Fair to say everyone has a choice who they want to date. If I want to date a girl who is totally skinny with no fat on her, or a girl who has nice curves and fat in the right areas, then I will gladly make that choice on my behalf without giving any consideration to whatever opinion someone said on the internet.
Of course not. It may depend if he's being a dick about it or not, but it's not wrong for men to not want to date women that are fat, he gets to have his own tastes too. The details part of your question is mean and judgmental. Do you know that women have physical things that they refuse to date men for too?
I don't compare it to gold diggers. Wanting a woman of a certain body size or type is itself just a physical preference. Gold digging is using somebody else for money which is actually pretty bad.
Lastly, men and women are different in life and focus on different taste and preferences. Women want to be supported more emotionally and men are more visually or physically stimulated. That is how it is and neither should be seen as evil.
I gotta disagree, people simply don’t date people who they aren’t attracted to. And if you think men who date fat women are good, you’re probably wrong. They could have the worst personality ever but prefer fat women rather than the skinny or average ones.
Nope. You have to accept it. These type of women who believe this want to have their cake amd eat it too... the double standards woman have is crazy. Thebones that realize those double standards and speak out about them are a breath of fresh air. Like someone mentioned already. If females are allowed to have height requiremtns, gotta have 6 pack, gotta have a good dick, gotta make X amount of money , then its entirely okay for men to have their requirements too... these are actually preferences. Attraction is subjective. For example, if i am jot attracked for Asian women does that make me a racist? No. It's just a preference.
Weight can be managed and changed , you cannot change your height. If you keep having double standards you are just eliminating yourself from the dating pool.
Women who don't date short guys, or fat guys, or poor guys, or jobless guys, or ugly guys are all shallow then. Can't have it both ways.
The difference is a guy can't control his height, but a woman can control her weight. So again, unless your willing to state how every single woman in the world is shallow, I would disagree with your assessment.
It's not about fat or not, it's about finding someone attractive. Looks isn't everything but dating someone who I don't find attractive at all is a waste of time because it will not work out. It's not shallow, it's respecting my time and having a minimum amount of standards. Also sometimes people are put off by fat people not just because of looks but because often it also tells more about the person like their life style and so on.
If you want to date someone you don't find attractive and with who it is less likely to work out when you have plenty of other options you prefer, then that's up to you.
They can’t find the hole, lmao. I am athletic and I take care of myself so why should I even be within 100’ of a lazy, uninhibited, zero-discipline, heart-disease-contender, diabetes-candidate, hormone-imbalanced slug? by the way, the fat ones are gold diggers too. Given the choice of a couch whale vs. shallow, you can sign me up for shallow. Get off your lazy entitled feminist ass, drink a gallon of water, and start learning how to work.
Having a type does not make one shallow. I'm not gonna go date a girl who doesn't appeal to me just so people can say I'm not shallow it's not for to me or to her. And that's not to say I wouldn't date a fat woman but it depends on what her build is, not all fat is the same. I do draw a line eventually and I'm allowed to do that.
On another note women often tend to avoid short guys what does that make them? The reality is we're all somewhat shallow but it's not a wrong thing.
That statement is medically true however there's no guarantee that she is capable of losing that weight and dating her on the condition that she does is just is a real jerk move. I value personal freedom and would never impose my satisfaction on someone else.
I am not saying I would date someone with that condition. If someone is doing that on their own I may date them because they are becoming attractive to me. I know a girl who started dating a guy because he was losing weight by himself and she started to find him more attractive.
No not all. There is a lot of people who go eww fat of course who 100% are. But there is me the one reason why i wouldn't is cause i am skinny af. And would find it uncomfortable to cuddle someone with more weight then me. people who are fat can be hella pretty it's legit just this reason i wouldn't. Also Fat is something that can actually be changed.
I’ve learned in my decades of getting to know what I like for intimacy from a woman, 1st is dignity & respect; 2nd sharing same interest must be essential for relationship; critical thinking. I’ve learned the painful way that we cannot be dishonest about sexual intimacy ergo don’t let religion dictate sexuality in relationship where kinkyness is important. Christianity looks down on sexual intimacy, but Christianity doesn’t focus on the reality that we are chemical with hormones. So, be honest with yourself about your own sexual intimacy in relationship. With that said, for those that don’t need a kinky relationship than all of this will be irrelevant. Looks are important, but sharing interest & communication is primal.
That's not really fair to say because everyone has different things they find attractive and have different standards. Like I'm overweight and if a guy didn't like me because of that I'm not going to hold it against the guy because everyone are into different things. You can't control what you find attractive
As a woman I think every one refuse to date a person for phycical apperence they CAN'T change, now i know being fat and weiging too much, isn't out of your controle, so to refuse a fat person is fair enough. BUT if a person is refused on there height it's NOT accepteble and deffintly superficial and shallow as hell
I only seek healthy women. If I'm attracted to a non-healthy woman, I'd see about getting her healthy first. From my beliefs her body is irrelevant, but I am a man and that plays into a healthy lasting relationship. I can accept fatness, but I would never seek it. Often obesity is a symptom of an underlying condition, depression, anxiety, pride, selfishness, hopelessness, etc. These aren't desirable qualities, but if she's working on them I would find her more desirable. I could still be her nonsexual friend regardless.
Going to answer based on many women's answers to their own questions, as stated in countless quesitons, such as when when men ask why they aren't more obliging on being approached, and use this, on behalf, as a man, of many women, were the situation reversed:
"He doesn't egotistically have a right to expect a specific response, or is owed anything, just because he decides he's entitled to it."
Why don't fat people just lose weight? There are new better ways to now, it's been proven that fasting loses weight while dieting fucks your body over by preventing it from going into the mode where it uses fat as fuel. I wouldn't want to date someone who is overweight, because it means they do not take care of what they eat and how they exercise.
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Depends on how you define fat.
The stereotypical chubby or a few pounds extra or as some people say thicc. I don't mind that, I'd date her, the weight doesn't bother me.
But if you're talking morbidly obese with unhealthy eating habits and no form of exercise, no thank you.
I'm a martial arts practitioner a d I try to keep my body fit and strong and I like a lot of adventure sports like rock climbing and rappelling. I'd like to have a partner who can do these with me.
Now in terms of most guys, they will want a partner they find attractive and a lot of them don't find fat girls unattractive, it's unfair but that's how it is, just like women are less likely to be attracted to short guys, it's how people are, can't change that.
That’s like saying that women who don’t date any male who shows her attention is shallow and selfish. How dare they have standards and expectations for a partner...
When if comes to shallow... men are much less shallow than women. We have ONE criteria, don’t be fat. Outside of that our range of what we find attractive is a large majority of the female sex.
Women on the other hand have endless numbers of bullshit they expect from a male before they will even take down the creepy pervert label they give us all by default. And they only find about 1% of men attractive.
So when it comes to bitching about shallow, You might just want to sit down.
I don't see many women with fat guys either! Just sayin' lol
For some, it's more because of health, it's important to them and it is hard to be with someone that doesn't share that importance with you. I don't feel that way generally, but I do understand how they feel. I get it. One of my ex's, I liked her a lot, but she was overweight, which I accepted and it didn't change that, but what it did affect was daily lifestyles. When we'd get together for example and go out and do things, she'd get tired very easily and quickly and we'd have to stop, meanwhile I was fine and just starting to enjoy what we were doing. Also as feelings developed, I started to get very concerned about her health due to her weight and lifestyle.
But you are right, PEOPLE (women also) tend to be really shallow. A lot of the time, people tend to only look on the outside to "judge", and don't bother to get to know the person at all.
In reading some responses, I also have to point out women and height!! This is huge and no different. SO many women have height of the guy as a "deal breaker", which blows my mind! Really? Wow!
And that's something we have no control over also lol.
But but but I am nice guy, why do women date the assholes for? Why don't they give the nice guy a chance to make things right? I'll shower them with love and care and treat them like a princess m'lady D:< Women are shallow and dumb for going for assholes that break their hearts when a guy like me will give them the world!!1111
Not srs rant, but I can use the same argument type as you. Fair to say everyone has a choice who they want to date. If I want to date a girl who is totally skinny with no fat on her, or a girl who has nice curves and fat in the right areas, then I will gladly make that choice on my behalf without giving any consideration to whatever opinion someone said on the internet.
Of course not. It may depend if he's being a dick about it or not, but it's not wrong for men to not want to date women that are fat, he gets to have his own tastes too. The details part of your question is mean and judgmental. Do you know that women have physical things that they refuse to date men for too?
I don't compare it to gold diggers. Wanting a woman of a certain body size or type is itself just a physical preference. Gold digging is using somebody else for money which is actually pretty bad.
Lastly, men and women are different in life and focus on different taste and preferences. Women want to be supported more emotionally and men are more visually or physically stimulated. That is how it is and neither should be seen as evil.
I gotta disagree, people simply don’t date people who they aren’t attracted to. And if you think men who date fat women are good, you’re probably wrong. They could have the worst personality ever but prefer fat women rather than the skinny or average ones.
Nope. You have to accept it.
These type of women who believe this want to have their cake amd eat it too... the double standards woman have is crazy. Thebones that realize those double standards and speak out about them are a breath of fresh air. Like someone mentioned already.
If females are allowed to have height requiremtns, gotta have 6 pack, gotta have a good dick, gotta make X amount of money , then its entirely okay for men to have their requirements too... these are actually preferences. Attraction is subjective. For example, if i am jot attracked for Asian women does that make me a racist? No. It's just a preference.
Weight can be managed and changed , you cannot change your height.
If you keep having double standards you are just eliminating yourself from the dating pool.
Women who don't date short guys, or fat guys, or poor guys, or jobless guys, or ugly guys are all shallow then. Can't have it both ways.
The difference is a guy can't control his height, but a woman can control her weight. So again, unless your willing to state how every single woman in the world is shallow, I would disagree with your assessment.
It's not about fat or not, it's about finding someone attractive. Looks isn't everything but dating someone who I don't find attractive at all is a waste of time because it will not work out. It's not shallow, it's respecting my time and having a minimum amount of standards. Also sometimes people are put off by fat people not just because of looks but because often it also tells more about the person like their life style and so on.
If you want to date someone you don't find attractive and with who it is less likely to work out when you have plenty of other options you prefer, then that's up to you.
They can’t find the hole, lmao. I am athletic and I take care of myself so why should I even be within 100’ of a lazy, uninhibited, zero-discipline, heart-disease-contender, diabetes-candidate, hormone-imbalanced slug? by the way, the fat ones are gold diggers too. Given the choice of a couch whale vs. shallow, you can sign me up for shallow. Get off your lazy entitled feminist ass, drink a gallon of water, and start learning how to work.
But then I'm gonna shit everywhere lol
Having a type does not make one shallow. I'm not gonna go date a girl who doesn't appeal to me just so people can say I'm not shallow it's not for to me or to her.
And that's not to say I wouldn't date a fat woman but it depends on what her build is, not all fat is the same.
I do draw a line eventually and I'm allowed to do that.
On another note women often tend to avoid short guys what does that make them?
The reality is we're all somewhat shallow but it's not a wrong thing.
Fat girls can lose weight, short guys can't grow taller.
That statement is medically true however there's no guarantee that she is capable of losing that weight and dating her on the condition that she does is just is a real jerk move.
I value personal freedom and would never impose my satisfaction on someone else.
I am not saying I would date someone with that condition. If someone is doing that on their own I may date them because they are becoming attractive to me. I know a girl who started dating a guy because he was losing weight by himself and she started to find him more attractive.
There are people not attracted to skinny people. Or muscular people too.
You can't force someone to date someone they aren't attracted to you
Just like there are people who only like fat people. Would that make them selfish and arrogant that they refuse to date skinny or avg size people?
It's a preference🤷🏽♀️
No not all. There is a lot of people who go eww fat of course who 100% are. But there is me the one reason why i wouldn't is cause i am skinny af. And would find it uncomfortable to cuddle someone with more weight then me. people who are fat can be hella pretty it's legit just this reason i wouldn't. Also Fat is something that can actually be changed.
I’ve learned in my decades of getting to know what I like for intimacy from a woman, 1st is dignity & respect; 2nd sharing same interest must be essential for relationship; critical thinking. I’ve learned the painful way that we cannot be dishonest about sexual intimacy ergo don’t let religion dictate sexuality in relationship where kinkyness is important. Christianity looks down on sexual intimacy, but Christianity doesn’t focus on the reality that we are chemical with hormones. So, be honest with yourself about your own sexual intimacy in relationship. With that said, for those that don’t need a kinky relationship than all of this will be irrelevant. Looks are important, but sharing interest & communication is primal.
That's not really fair to say because everyone has different things they find attractive and have different standards. Like I'm overweight and if a guy didn't like me because of that I'm not going to hold it against the guy because everyone are into different things. You can't control what you find attractive
As a woman I think every one refuse to date a person for phycical apperence they CAN'T change, now i know being fat and weiging too much, isn't out of your controle, so to refuse a fat person is fair enough. BUT if a person is refused on there height it's NOT accepteble and deffintly superficial and shallow as hell
Guess what most women don't want to date shorter men not even same height, isn't that shallow.
You should see their street interviews.
@Aaron_Stone i'd kill a fellow sister for less
I only seek healthy women. If I'm attracted to a non-healthy woman, I'd see about getting her healthy first. From my beliefs her body is irrelevant, but I am a man and that plays into a healthy lasting relationship. I can accept fatness, but I would never seek it. Often obesity is a symptom of an underlying condition, depression, anxiety, pride, selfishness, hopelessness, etc. These aren't desirable qualities, but if she's working on them I would find her more desirable. I could still be her nonsexual friend regardless.
Going to answer based on many women's answers to their own questions, as stated in countless quesitons, such as when when men ask why they aren't more obliging on being approached, and use this, on behalf, as a man, of many women, were the situation reversed:
"He doesn't egotistically have a right to expect a specific response, or is owed anything, just because he decides he's entitled to it."
I believe everyone has their own preferences.
That being said, you should check out dating profiles. Many women want to meet men who are at least 6 feet tall. As well as other requirements.
I believe both men and women (not all) are shallow. Shallow people with shallow goals.
Why don't fat people just lose weight? There are new better ways to now, it's been proven that fasting loses weight while dieting fucks your body over by preventing it from going into the mode where it uses fat as fuel. I wouldn't want to date someone who is overweight, because it means they do not take care of what they eat and how they exercise.