Is it true most women/girls in a relationship have a backup plan? (Page 2)
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I’ve never heard of having a backup plan or choosing from a roster of guys (which is what it sounds like when you say that women accept applications and go for the better looking guy).
Your assumptions about women sound super negative. Not sure what led you to craft such devious yet detailed ideas about the average woman’s approach to dating?
it is the truth, thats why. look at the replies here, a lot of girls even admit to it.
... ok. Maybe that’s what the answers of girls who voted would imply that but remember- that’s only a small portion of the girls who voted. Which is a small portion of the girls who read the question, much less use or even have accounts on this site.
Do you really think the thoughts of this small portion of women would be an accurate representation of the billions of women across the globe?
this portion? no it doesn't represent the majority of the women on the planet. Also , different populations of women from different cultures will behave differently in regards to this.
However it is a commonly observed phenomenon in women which is often discussed in male communities like the redpill communities. you can look up monkey-branching and orbiters.
i have read about it and afterwards observed it with women. in my personal experience this is 100% true.
Lol red pill is a community whose sole purpose is to demonize women and blame them for members not having a perfect success rate in romance/sex with women. That’s the place to look when you want to find distorted stats and propaganda to fit such narratives.
I was trying to see if you’re approaching this in a fair and objective manner but.. I see you’re a redpiller yourself. Nvm, good luck blaming everyone but yourself for all your failures in the future 🤣
red pill is a community that is actually truthful about women.
Its the most scientific approach towards female nature. you seem mad that we exposed you
and you do realize that players and pick up artists are also a part of the redpill community. redpillers are actually way more successful with women than the average guys who dont understand female nature.
... let’s not make a mockery of science, eh?
so you understand what science is and how it works.
a science based approach is basically a study of a subject where you have hypotheses and try to prove ( or disprove them) by experimentation.
It is not belief or superstition. it has a fact based approach to it.
All redpill theories follow this method. This is why i think anyone who disregards the red pill as "demonizing women" is either an idiot or they have never read anything regarding it.
The mainstream culture and mainstream media will have you believe that women desire men who are decent, kind, agreeable, and stable.
Men ( who we call blue pilled men) eat this up and follow this trend. then many end up unsuccessful with women, unable to connect with women, or rejected and cheated on and abandoned.
Those people want answers as to what they did wrong. They want to know why this happened to them. But there are no answers in mainstream culture.
When these guys start searching for answers, that's how they stumble upon the red pill. And then it makes sense and the answers become clear.
Sure many men would get upset at women in this situation. Don't you think thats natural? wouldn't you be upset? but that doesn't take away from the fact that the red pill is the truth.
Blue pilled men will never truly understand why 50 shades of grey and 365 days are so popular with women, so much so that they even got to the top of the charts. But we understand perfectly.
And i think you women don't like that we are figuring you out.
okay, fair enough.
Care to share the link to some studies I could read through that back up your claims- which are looking pretty strictly anecdotal thus far?
i will link you a study regarding hypergamy. Personally i think its one of the most important theories that the redpill talks about.
This study is done by cambridge university and is largely neutral, so you won't find much bias in there.
www.cambridge.org/.../82BADB41DBF5B71F72E4A001F95623C8
its about hypergamy and marriage and compares modern marriage to marriage in the old days.
but i would advice you to google and understanding the meaning of certain words before going into these topics.
Hypergamy basically means that women tend to date up or equal, not down. This is mostly in terms of social status and power, but also in terms of the partners sexual market value.
it basically means that women prefer quality over quantity, which is not the case for men. You might want to look up sexual market value to get a better idea of it.
also look up monkey branching and preselection.
you might like or identify with these things. i won't force you into it, read and look up however you like. but its good to get to know certain terms before you start reading articles.
also, you may not be impressed by anecdotal evidence, but its interesting to see for yourself. if you read more redpill stuff you can think about it and see if that makes sense irl. You can also look for scholarly articles to see if those theories have any hard backup of course.
but you can also think for yourself. It might clear up things that you dont understand regarding men too, or male-female relationships. like why people (like arnold for example) would cheat with women who might not seem to be as good as their wives. Its because quality isn't a deciding factor for men, unlike for women.
Well I don’t know if most women have a backup plan, but if she’s bored or disappointed with the guy she’s in a relationship with, she might want another taken guy if she’s jealous that the other girl is prettier than her. This is known as mate poaching. But usually only a complete attention whore would do that. An attention whore will never be able to get enough attention from her boyfriend, and will simultaneously try to get attention from other guys when they fight or he ignores her.
My Impression is similar but me seeding doubts of me being bi has truly made her consider more competition around her and she is stepping up her efforts to keep me I guess :)
I told her she got new competition lol, it was all a joke but she seems to taking it too surprisingly seriously. Not that I am complaining
Yes and I got two of them. 1 is call Ben and the other ones called Jerry.
Ha ha ha, nice!
Yeah it's real. she's always single, it's just your turn. Hopefully for life! Women don't see that. They fall in love with emotions. Emotion gone, they change. Does not apply to all countries. Mostly USA and some other ones. Uk I hear same as here. Men different. Click in out emotions so we think everything alright. Coasting. Boom.
You have to always be bettering yourself. It's work.
Relax that is not true.
You can have a normal relationship and the odds that your girl will have a "backup plan" are slim. Not near that 50-60% range.
Also if she leaves for someone that she loves more than you, is normal. But if by "better dude" you just mean a guy that makes more money and is hoter than you, relax. She won't leave you just for that.
According to a survey by a marketing agency in 2007 48% of women have a plan B dude. And 60% of the time it's someone the boyfriend/husband knows personally. 20% of the time it's his friend. 5% of the time the husband knows who her plan B is and knows he's a plan B.
So yeah, that number isn't far off from the data we have available.
girls don’t have any more of a backup plan than guys. if anything, guy’s have backup plans, girls don’t necessarily have to have a “back up plan” because harsh reality is that it’s not hard for them to find someone else.
judging from how easy a woman can get new dates or dudes orbiting her through social media or dating apps, it's a very unstable claim to make that guys have more backup plans than girls. On the contrary, looking at these statistics, the likeliness is the contrary to what you said. Often, it's the girls who have "friends", which in reality, they are just back-up plans. So it's a two way street.
wtf kind of shit did u watch maybe 1-3% actually have and do that the rest of us just buys a bunch of cats or find the nearest ice bucket I've been spending many days with an ice bucket when i got dropped never have i had an backup plan
There are studies for this.
also if u come with your robot response im giving u the finger
Also also Those studies are wrong
Do you have mental problems?
Nope
These days I think lots of people have “options” and don’t just commit to 1 single person and they do keep their options open in secret... women and men are both just as bad I think... and it’s the innocent-looking ones to watch out for... lots of people are opposite of what they appear to be and these days I also find everyone wants to use everyone... men want women for money these days or do drugs and women like using men to feed them I find... just some observations I’ve made
I don’t have a back up plan. Personally, it’s impossible for me to have feelings for 2 people at once. I may recognize a guy is cute. However, I can’t feel an attraction to them. This proved to be a bad thing when I developed feelings for a guy that I never dated and rarely saw. Luckily, I got over him and found the love of my life.
I 100% today. When I'm dating a boy, I still keep other guys on a close lease in case if this asshole decides to use me and leave.
But... why not look in the mirror and look at yourself from the other side?
You're keeping guys close just in case he uses and leaves?
So wait a min miss.
What the fuck are you doing then?
OTHER GUYS?
As if you're not using all those guys 🤦🤦🤦
It's alright. Just means she is okay with that Guy still keeping others girls on close lease in case if she is an asshole. Unless if she is a hypocrite.
Haha... Yea🤭😂
whore.
What a bunch of whiny incels
We're not attacking you being a bitch or anything. Just trying to tell you that both guys and girls can be assholes.
Some gals keep backup. And so do some guys. You happen to be in that category.
So you don't really have a voice when you criticize a guy using you and shit. Coz you're basically doing the same thing
@rkf_helps_247 she is just using that as an excuse to keep her side pieces. every guy is a potential asshole who could use her and leave her therefore she should keep her side options.
its classic hoe-logic.
You dont need to entertain her with rational arguments.
Ah, so if he wasn't an asshole and a future is a big possibility, would you still keep your back-up plans? Because if one or both partners have back-up plans, no genuine relationship will ever take place. And temptation will always be around the corner. Form what I know, those who keep back-up plans either want to cheat or are way too insecure to put faith in their relationship.
A real man will NEVER get with a girl who keeps her back-up plans. Same applies for a woman.
@startingfitness yea... You're right. Bitches always snitches.
@TruthBringer you're right brother. But nothing is gonna convince her. She's gonna stick to this excuse so that she can fuck someone in the side when she gets bored of the current one
I feel like women are more likely to carry and continue to build emotional connections apart from their romantic relationships but that’s not the same as having a “back up plan”.
What is it then? What would you call it if your boyfriend kept building potentially romantic relationships along side you?
@Torari well I would be the main one encouraging him especially if he happened to be have more antisocial behavior, as I have met dudes like that. Building emotional connections outside of your little “love nest” is healthy. And in this hypothetical scenario I’d be working on fulfilling their emotional and mental health needs where I can and where I’m supposed to as genuine, loving partner.
I’m not going to worry about them forming what you call “potential relationships” because I am mature and secure in myself and my ability to communicate and make others feel comfortable reciprocating that effort. If I fail, I fail. But I’m not letting the fear of failure get in the way of a partner's growth.
That’s elementary and I’ve already graduated college.
you shouldn't be building emotional connections with other men. thats what hoes do.
@startingfitness ok, sure then. If that’s what you call a hoe, I will be that.
shameless women nowadays smh...
@startingfitness immature boys nowadays smh...
how am i immature for realizing my worth. You can't stand it when a man puts his foot down, can you. you wanna have your cake and eat it too. If you are in a relationship with a man you shouldn't have any emotional connections with another man. No one outside of degenerate western people agree with you
@startingfitness If you feel that way, ok.
You are immature for making this about gender probably because you can’t fathom the idea of men and women forming religion that aren’t specifically romantic or sexual. Maybe you and the people around you just lack emotional stamina or proper social skills or general self control. Maybe all of the above. It’s not about forming bonds with “other men”. It’s about forming bonds... period. Regardless of gender. It’s about having a social network that is reliable and comforting so that your boyfriend/girlfriend is not your ENTIRE world.
If you are incapable of respecting another person’s ability to thrive in other areas of their life with other people without ASSUMING everything is a sneaky plot to cheat, then YES you are very immature 😂
no you are immature for believing that it is about self control or "emotional stamina" whatever that means. almost half of all marriages end up in divorce in the west. most of the time women file for divorce. And most of those women have a backup guy. Which again, most of those guys are guys they are close to ( male friend or colleague).
Of course this can happen the other way too.
It doesn't usually start out as a plot to cheat, thats just how it ends up. its human nature. Thats why older religions and cultures had men and women separated from each other in a marriage.
A relationship takes some sacrifice, and you aren't prepared to do it, as i said you want to eat your cake and have it too.
also you have no understanding of men period. all of your male friends wanna fuck you. you are delusional to think otherwise. if you don't believe me , message them telling them you want to fuck them.
lol, women don't have any comebacks for this one.
It is disrespectful for you to keep these guys in your life knowing they want to fuck you , when you have a man. You will never have a real man as long as you do this.
@startingfitness Okay. You are more than welcome to feel all those things.
lol you probably didn't read any of the things i wrote.
Just dont complain 10 years later about not finding a good man.
Its all on you now.
@startingfitness Alright 😃
Yeah let me form an "emotional connection" with other girls outside my relationship. Let's see how my girlfriend will react to that. And if she doesn't like it, I'll go and call her "insecure". Emotional connections should be kept with your partner, not shared with other men. Also, do you ever think other men don't want to fuck you? Especially when you form that "emtional connection"? Don't be naive. It's often due to emotional connection outside a relationship that has lead to cheating.
@startingfitness very well said, some people just don't get it. I can tell she is the type of person to think the truth is what she FEELS it to be, rather than what it actually is. And indeed, no high quality man is going to invest with a woman who feels like she needs to form emotional connections with other men. There is no justification for that at all. She just wants to have her cake and eat it too, only that's not really how the world works. You can't have it all. But try explain that to women like her.
@TruthBringer the truth is the reality you happen to live in and we don’t all exist in the same reality. I am perfectly fine with allowing my partner to grow and form connections outside of myself. And no I’m not trying to have my cake and eat it too. You make it sound like I’m advocating for flirting and whatnot. Also, I said it’s not about MEN. It’s about people in general. Bonding with PEOPLE in general. Having friends and family. If you’re unable to live your life that way, then I’m sorry that’s your experience.
And if I’m a “slut” in your eyes then that’s valid and accept that title.
Don't twist your words now. Connections and 'emotional connections' point to different things. We all got connections outside our relationship. Emotional connections however is much more specific and is usually reserved for family and romantic partners. So it really depends on what you mean with "emotional connection". For many people such as myself, an emotional connection is a very strong and deep connection reserved only for romantic and family purposes. I don't form an 'emotional connection' with my Commander at the Air Force, my old drill Sergeant, my friends or my acquaintances. I form either formal connections or connections on a friendship level, which are not as deep as an 'emotional level'. Emotional connections, I form them with my nephew, my girlfriend, my mother, my father etc. Based on what I explained to you, I wouldn't accept if my girlfriend to be forming "emotional connections" with other dudes and neither does she accept it if I do it with other girls. No healthy relationships allow this.
And I never said anything about being a "slut". So don't try to assign false implications to me.
@TruthBringer If you wouldn’t allow your partner to have emotional connections outside yourself, ok.
I would let my partner do it for reasons I already explained.
We just live our lives differently and that is perfectly fine as long as neither one of us are hurting people. I can only speak for myself and say that in my life it has never been an issue because I encourage any romantic partner of mine to make sure I am not their entire world and that I am not the one they rely on and feed off of emotionally. That’s just the kind of person I am.
@Ellie-V Yes, that's all nice and all, but you completely missed my point, or don't want to get it. I never said my partner isn't allowed to have connections outside our relationship. I explained to you what I (and many others) interpret "emotional connection". And based on OUR interpretation, it is not right to have them outside of our relationship. Other connections, sure no problem.
@TruthBringer I am aware that you were going off your own interpretation. If you find it wrong, then ok. You can feel that way.
There is no "wrong" interpretation. Just people having their own interpretations. Ours happen to differ. I simply take the interpretation of the popular belief. But to each their own. As long as you and your partner are happy in your relationship. I can tell you that my girlfriend and I are very happy.
@TruthBringer I literally never said or implied that your interpretation was wrong but ok
@Ellie-V Oops my bad, I read your comment wrong. My apologies.
I'm sure some do but I believe some guys do too. But I'venever had a back up plan. I have been with someone who literally had 5 other back up plans so I found out.
I never said guys dont. im going strictly with what the article says,
If it's true that's a big percentage of women and it sucks either way.
A relationship is too much of a work. An alternative will be draining. There are many things in the world which doesn't revolve around keeping alternatives.
Is that why she's been pissy with me lately cause didn't think its nessary I get 500000 life insurance with our health coverage we only been dating a month.. only cause I'm gone surprise her with my trust fund benefits a girl that suck *$## so good must love me... Right
just because the hotter ones have it bit more convenient to find partners at times. Doesn't mean women in general have a "backup plan"
My girlfriend has no backup plans, she's completely honest about everything, when we broke up she stayed completely alone for a couple of months before we got back together.
I on the other hand, was a shallow piece of shit and had backup plans, I spent those months hanging out with other girls while she was missing us and what we had.
I learned my lesson and dumped all of them, now we're together and both with 0 backup plans.
obviously, though I'm pretty sure is far more higher 50-60%
hell those back up dudes can show up all the same night once they hit the clubs and bar and announce that they're single.
Back up plan... No...
I'm must be the dumbest girl out there.
Complete social isolation.
No friends. No man's.
And no family except my mother...