1. Flowers- especially roses- have lost much of the symbolism they used to have. (Social media has had a big part in killing many long-standing traditions.)
White- Spirituality, innocence, new beginnings Yellow- friendship, remembrance, appreciation Peach- Sympathy Pink- Sweetness, joy Orange- Hint to have "more than a friendship", gratitude Red- Ultimate love, passion, romance Lavender- Majesty, splendor, enchantment Green- Harmony, health, wealth Blue- Mystery, unattainable love Black - End of a relationship, death
2. They cost of nice flowers has risen dramatically. "Why spend good money for something that is gonna' croak in a couple of days?" There is, obviously, a logical truth to this, but the feelings of the giver and receiver can't really be hung with a price tag. Why not try a "petite rose"? It can stay happy in a pot, or it can be transplanted outdoors.
3. "I'll just send an email/message". Almost a subset of #2, social media simply tears down nice traditions.
4. Guys don't know how to order to match the message they need to convey. In addition to the color, the NUMBER of roses ALSO conveys a meaning.
12 roses- the typical gift and means "be mine". 15 roses- means "Im sorry"- 15 is an apology 24 roses- "I'm yours!" 25 roses- Congratulations!
I get a girl I'm in a relationship with flowers probably once a month or two. I like to be a gentleman and sweet but not to just girls in general, only to my girl.
Men won't waste money on a dinner date, let alone flowers. When I was younger guys would ask me on the 4th or 5th date what my favorite flowers were and then of course they would start showing up with them. But the reason why it is usually more into the 5th or more date is so they know where the situation is going. If it's casual, no flowers. If it is a friends situation, no flowers unless he is unaware he has been friendzoned. If he thinks he has a chance to make you his girlfriend then yup, flowers it is. This just happened to me over the summer that a guy asked what would it take to make him stand out and I said, maybe show up with flowers? And he said why? I ended up not going on the date. Men need to realize us women who are looking for something real aren't going to settle for a drink and chitchat.
I guess I must have the most romantic Man/Husband in the world, for every month he presents me with a beautiful bouquet of flowers with the same message each time... I Love You More Today than I Did Yesterday & Tomorrow I Shall Love You More Than I Do Today.
Have you looked at the prices of nice flowers lately? The industry has ratcheted up the prices of flowers to the levels that cannot be afforded by a young fella who is just starting up. They created holidays that glorify fancy roses and other expensive flowers at the detriment of locally grown flowers. Just think, if your man brought you a handful of daisies, would you accept them or would you think that he was being cheap and inconsiderate? Most women do but not because they are shallow somehow. The marketing for the flower growers have spent millions destroying the reputation of wild flowers. They have also promoted an idea that flowers should be given on a specific holiday such as Valentine's or mother's day. This is because it is easier to plan and grow flowers if you know when they will be needed. It is far more expensive to grow flowers continuously throughout the year in order to support spontaneous flower giving.
Probably because, we live in a media influenced society where being a gentlemen is cheesy and lame and have rather resorted to playing games and using creepy mind tricks to make a girl like you is now the new norm. Honestly, (in my opinion) it might be scary for a guy to give a girl flowers because, a lot of girls are tricked into thinking that things like that are weird and/or creepy for a guy to do. Again, media has influenced many people that being genuine and respectful to each other is unnatural and that having impulsive sex, being dismissive, and using creepy mind tricks to force a girl to like you is the natural thing to do. In the end, flowers for a girl are probably scary for a guy to give or the guy is just a jerk or even possibly he might just genuinely not be interested to get them.
Honestly in my past relationships I've never bought flowers except once because they seem temporary. Throughout my past relationships I've only every bought gifts that mean something significant to relationship, or jewelry. Honestly I've mostly bought necklaces that I thought they'd really like and on one occasion a ring. When I got her the ring I also wrote a letter for her, the happiest I'd ever seen her was when she got the ring and letter and honestly I dont feel flowers could come close. Flowers just seem like a temporary gift that will be forgotten, but a beautiful necklace they might wear daily or a pair of matching rings with our anniversary engraved in them sounds like a better gift to me.
My wife and I have a garden full of flowers. But I still bring her flowers on occasion. On my job, I used to drive by fields of sunflowers and stop to cut some when they were in season. My wife loved them and we could put the spent flowers out for the birds. In the spring, there are some really nice flowers and flowering trees growing by the roadsides in our rural area. Sometimes I'll stop and cut some, bring them home and make a bouquet to surprise her. On special occasions, I'll buy from a flower shop. Living flowering plants can be nice. But sometimes I'll buy a few roses. That stuff is expensive, though. Not that she's not worth it, but money can better be spent on less ephemeral things like jewelry or other gifts.
Where have all the flowers gone? Long time passing Where have all the flowers gone? Long time ago Where have all the flowers gone? Feminists sprayed herbicide on them, every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?
Where have all the feminine women gone? Long time passing Where have all the feminine women gone? Long time ago Where have all the feminine women gone? Gone to man-hate protests, every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?
Where have all the masculine men gone? Long time passing Where have all the masculine men gone? Long time ago Where have all the masculine men gone? Gone their own way, every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?
Because most women reject good men who want to love them. Ignore what women say that they want, watch for with whom they choose to share their bed. Ill-mannered sociopathic pump and dump bad boys are chosen almost every time. When I was 21 I dated a model who I met through my work as a journalist. She was a few years older than me and even for a model was a stunner. Think Jaclyn Smith’s (original Charlie’s Angels series) younger and slightly shorter sister. After our first date, I sent her a single red rose that had a thankyou note attached. During our next date, I was shocked when she told me that nobody had taken her to dinner before and I was the first man who had sent her a flower. After 18 months she traded me in for a much older man who had serious money. Apparently, I had awoken her desire to be treated well by a man who could afford her.
I hate seeing them wilt & die but thanks for reminder. I always bring a good bottle of wine, cut flowers, & some exotic gourmet treat on a 1st date but usually don’t think of it later. I hate buying them for holidays like Valentines Day since they are overpriced, everyone else is doing it - same deal w/ restaurants. I usually stop at the local women owned & operated sex toy store & ask what the newest must have toy is and will buy her something like that. I tried mailing a $150 vibrator once & accidentally put my very attractive female dermatologists address on it. Made interesting convo the next spot. I had with her and she sees me up close while I’m naked.
Dating game is changing. Males are becoming simps. Males putting in effort with no reciprocation. Girls just want to sit there and want to be treated like a queen. The guy has to risk everything. There comes a point where a guy just gives up on chasing. He will soon realize that he is falling into a vicious cycle trap. And that’s where majority of men are right now. They are scared because if they go after a girl, they will get called a simp. If they go after a girl they are scared of rejection. Mark my words. One day a smart guy will find a way to remove the horniness out of testosterone. Hell it might even be me 🤣.
@jabberwocky00 because the only thing that holds us men back is the horniness. If this was removed. There would be no simps. Men would just focus on what needs to be done and stop relying on women. Men can focus on themselves and stop chasing women.
I didn’t know it was that, just thought society has created this. Men must be this way, women must expect only the best type stuff. I love horniness , I never want to remove that 😆
@jabberwocky00 it hurts so much. I don’t want to be alive. Like the current situation I’m in with a girl I like. It’s killing me slowly. I don't know if u want to hear it
Unless we grew the flowers ourselves they have 0 sentimental meaning unless we know which flowers you like and why you like the. If you just want us to buy you shit, we're gonna buy you food because its just way more practical since flowers die and smell like shit in a week.
modern 3rd and 4th wave extreme feminism killed chivalry. including but not limited to flowers, chocolates, jewelry, opening and holding doors, pulling out your chair, taking you to nice meals, taking you to nice shows, etc.
Because they have finally realized it’s a waste of money. What am I going to do with flowers? Leave them on my kitchen counter till they die? If a guy wants to impress me he should buy me ammo instead.
I've brought flowers before... the first three memories bring up 3 very different stories, none of them really worked out that well for me lol... ironically the one that did work out was the occasion someone else brought the flowers but the recipient thought it was me that sent them! Sounds strange? Well welcome to my world... I'll tell you the story one day! lol
It makes no sense to do it for me or who I'm in a relationship with, society dictates a man must raid a garden to give a woman flowers in return for what exactly? Something she can decide to give or not that doesn't require a lot of effort on her part. And the flower industry only lends to the massive amounts of vegetation being in landfills only to have women feel good about themselves.
I was told by several women that buying flowers was a waste of money. I would still do it, but only for no reason at all. Never on holidays or when they were expected. Knowing that women they worked with would get jealous when somebody got flowers. I would always deliver them myself while they were working.
I can give a good solid reason. The wife hates flowers, I found out the first time i gave her some. She said they are cut off and dying, and represent dying things so she just doesn't like them.. Later instead i bought her a potted orchid, and i planted some rose bushes around the house, so they are all living flowers not dying flowers.
whenever I'm in relationships I tend to buy girlfriend's flowers either on special occasions or just because... but i have dated a couple of women who didn't like flowers, so i got them chocolate or something they did like instead...
Ummm i buy mine flowers all the time. Though my most recent ones clearly meant nothing to her. And orchids aren't cheap for crying out loud. Lol but some of us still like to buy flowers. Its little things like that that make relationships stronger.
most women don't appreciate the small things anymore, like opening a door, candy, giving her our jacket and flowers. in fact we are often shamed for trying too hard. we feel like it's safer not to do romantic things. At least this how it's in the Northeast.
beacuse flowers are rediculessly expensive, rather, just buy food. or some stuff, like shampoo, and lotions as well as a box of tampons for ya, screw the flowers, lols.
Nah, having someone buy me food makes me feel like I’m their farm animal and they have to fatten me up. No thanks. I can take care of myself and can buy necessities like shampoo myself. Flowers are something nice to look at and to smell. I think it’s a great gift.
@LenaMunter hmmmm its about being kind. flowers are just inconvinet, cus they die, i rather just buy seeds grow them and have a garden and plants in the house, dead flowers make no sense to me. thus for my self i would never waste money on dead flowers, if i had to buy flowers, i would buy house plants. and i would have a garden that she would not know of, so i can just do it for free and cheep. if i was going to give you a flower, it be a weed plant, they smell good and you can smoke them,
No we don't lol. And some women actually don't care for them. But I think another reason is they are actually fairly expensive, and they don't last long, so it seems like a waste of money also (to us).
Please explain this, so I know, and I WILL!! Flowers, expensive, and they last 2-3 days, maybe and make her smile. Why are flowers so important, so special?
I'm sure the price is a big part of it. A bouquet is often $50 and up, which really is a lot, especially for something that's only going to last for a week or two.
If you have a boyfriend, mention it to him. “This may seem silly, but I would love to get flowers from you occasionally.” If he cares for you that should work. They are expensive at a florist, but not so expensive at the supermarket.
I do, but a lot of times I save that for special occasions like anniversary, when I know she's having a hard time, when I have fucked up and my words won't be enough. Times like that
Because guys don't care. We women say we don't want flowers but deep down if we get them, we are happy. Dad's need to teach their boys, not women teaching resistant men
Nah, not true. It’s a great gesture, modern romance is just dead. Girls love all the cheesy stuff. It’s especially sweet when guys give flowers not on a special day as a surprise, shows you rlly care and she’ll remember it for sure.
Because nowdays they talk with 200 different guys and fuck with 100 different more.. soo there no girl that makes u feel special soo u can treat her as a special girl
Romance is dead. It died when a so-called enlightened society decided that there is no difference between men and women and any suggestion to the contrary is sexist. Goodbye romance. R. I. P.
@jabberwocky00 That saying implies that hoes are only good for sex, and straight women don’t want to be treated like sex toys as far as I’m concerned. If you’re a slut it just means your self esteem has reached rock bottom and you’ll do anything for a guy’s love and affection, which makes you feel like you should give him sex instead of respecting yourself. No guy will want to respect you or treat you like a lady if you behave like that
@jabberwocky00 Women don’t “only” want sex from men, unless they truly see themselves as completely worthless.
This is why you hear stories of men using women for sex, not the other way around. Men can have sex with 100 girls and not feel a thing for any of them. This is unfortunately not true for women.
@jabberwocky00 I don’t “want” you to, it’s just how it is. If you don’t believe it that’s cool, I’m just letting you know how men and women are not exactly the same and we differ in many ways.
Oh ok, cause just through my own personal experience I’d say I didn’t have any feelings for half of the guys I had sex with but loved having sex with them anyway.
@jabberwocky00 Maybe you don’t value yourself as much as you think or you just lack self-respect or have some type of attachment issue. This isn’t a good sign if you have children or you’re planning on that.
I’d say neither of the 3, when I think through those things, I value myself completely but honestly not the guys as much (I cheated on all of them) , self respect doesn’t connect with it I love sex so I’m did what I wanted, and the 3rd was attachment issues which I’m married now but with the others I didn’t want to be attached because I just wanted sex and fun from them. I do plan on having kids and can’t wait for that ☺️🥰
@jabberwocky00 I highly, highly doubt that. You don’t seem to value yourself or anyone at all. Promiscuous women always lack morals, and of course if you’ve cheated on a person and you feel great about it then that means you’re a crazy bitch. Also tell your man that he needs to control his girl before she goes and lets 30 other men sleep with her slutty ass and getting stds.
Also I feel bad for your future children, I can tell you’ll be a terrible mother with 0 morals.
Ohhh your trying to be one of those kinds guys, okays ☺️ well I’m here for an honest conversation anytime whether you want to believe women are sexual creatures or not.
@jabberwocky Of course women are sexual creatures and I love that about them. If they weren’t sexual creatures there’d be no point in calling them straight women. I know that. BUT they do tend to associate sex with love a lot more often. We men can separate both, which is why it’s a lot riskier for women to give up sex because they’re more likely to want a relationship as “part of the package”. Guys don’t really need a relationship to have sex, women do.
@jabberwocky00 Anyway, the point of this entire thing is that if you act like a hoe, you’ll be treated like one and your chances of being used and cheated on is high. If you act like a lady, you’ll get all the good stuff that comes with it—respect, admiration, and any man will be happy to do anything for you.
I disagree. You can act anyway you like but it really depends on the person reacting to you. I’ve been amazed at the things I’ve gotten away with in my day. But it’s appreciated as well, there are very kind and forgiving people out there 😊
Yes, but there are a lot of problems in giving flowers. Are they the right colour, are they the right sort. A girl I bought some white carnations she cried, they were late mother's favourite. You see you can not win some times...
I get hay fever in summer having flower will make myself sneeze a lot. I would prefer sweets and food. Chocolate is ok and fruit. Stress toy is also ok
My mom always says that flowers are a waste of money and gets pissed if my dad buys them. She’d rather have something useful. I think I’d rather give a girl flowers that I grew.
Little boy, Ole ase calm down, she asked for my opinion and I gave it, thsts what I see in society today, all I need to do is go on an app like this and see the responses young men make, and my opinion stands
Perhaps if she acted like a lady then I would buy her flowers (even though I think they're a waste of money). I rather buy her something that doesn't die and can be used for years. That makes more sense to me.
@honeydreams Flowers are just 1 example. I will buy someone what they want even if I don't prefer it. I just happen to think flowers are 1 of the worst things I could buy with my money.
I feel flowers are something you buy when your guilty of something and you use it to make up or you send it to a girls work place, basically to make something better, not an act of love.
I tend to prioritize practicality when it comes to buying gifts for a significant other especially after the beginning stages. Flowers is something I would get for the beginning.
Hmm I usually preffer to 'take' flowers from neighbours gardens :) was obsessed with it, surely a nice gesture and beautiful when you have so many flowers to pick from taking the most perfect ones can be art
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