😂 As I was listening to this, I couldn't help but think:
• Why not just be honest?
• These are too many games.
• These women don't really seem like the types that would be good for committed relationships anyway, so why bother?
• This advice seems like it's for guys that are very bad at picking women that are good for them in the longterm.
Although some of the tips like being assertive, knowing your boundaries, and even not putting all your cards on the table could work at making you seem more masculine attractive to women, oftentimes, women that are good for you probably wouldn't want to play all those games. Because it's not only about the man's worth. It's about the woman's worth as well! So he's viewing it in a very one-sided way.
Sure, women can be something else when it comes to love. Hypergamy, projected ideals, high maintenance, etc. And it's because of our genetic differences. So there will be things a man has to look out for. But I think the main point and plot this guy is trying to convey wouldn't work out for certain people. Arguably most people.
Because, depending on many variables like their actual perceived worth in society, their personality, who they try to court, etc, they may need to adjust accordingly. Because let's say a low-value guy sees this and he tries it and wonders why it's not working out. It's because by doing all of that, he's basically overshooting his worth. Women will generally look at him and think they could do better. For good reason too, because they can! For the simple fact that it's easier for an ugly girl to date a better-looking guy than vice versa.
Basically, Donovan sees the world in black and white. It's either his way or you're not doing something right. And sure, his advice may work for certain people, but I think that's what he has to realize. It takes certain lifestyles and personalities for that way to work. But in my opinion, dating is never so linear.
Thanks! I do really find interest in these topics! So feel free to invite me to more if you have other questions. 👌
I think his style would apply to men that prefer hookups more than valuable long-term relationships. But even if this method worked for a guy, if you have to manipulate your way into the relationship in the first place, then chances are, it's won't last long. 😂 So, in my opinion (for the most part) it's very bad dating advice for someone who wants to actually settle down and stay committed.
We should not play with someone's feelings just because they are not good enough for you or are not good people. I also do not agree with him about stop using social media. I mean he himself has youtube but do not want a woman with social media accounts
@hi_it_is_me123 - I agree! His views are very dehumanizing. But I'm not surprised he has them considering the types of women he goes for. He's adjusting his world views based on a little segment he's experienced.
Update: @Juxtapose - Yeah, I agree! Thanks! And best of luck on your mate finding journey! 🙏🥂
Donovan Sharp is one of my favourite Manosphere content creators. He is not MGTOW, but he produces great MGTOW and red pill content.
For those who do not know Donovan, he has had a big life journey.
He used to be a Tyrone, so he was never short of women.
He is a large black body builder, an ex con (yes, prison time) and, as you can see in the video, is extremely alpha. Donovan is also of above-average intelligence and is largely self educated.
If you want some brutal straight talking, Donovan Sharp is the man.
@Juxtapose
Donovan gives good dating advice, in my opinion.
The female mind is a different place, so interaction with women has to be carried out in a way that addresses those differences.
I have ordered his book about how to 'build a girlfriend' from the ground up (cannot remember the exact title). It should be entertaining.
I have lived long enough to know from personal experience that Donovan Sharp is on target.
The female computer has a different design (big differences in the physical structure of the brain) and runs on a different OS.
We process information differently and have different priorities.
For example, a man will say 'I think', but a woman will say 'I feel'. That illustrates one of the big differences between the organic computers inside our heads.
A man cannot deal with a woman in the way that he would interact with another man.
Re your gay relationships, if you think about what you have experienced and see you may realise that in such relationships one of the males is the man (top) and the other is the woman (bottom). That is the natural order, even in what I consider to be unnatural relationships.
When I see gay couples I can tell in a glance who is the man and who is the women.
For lesbians, it is even easier to tell which of the lesbians is the man in the relationship.
@TruthBringer
You might also enjoy Coach Greg Adams.
Coach Greg is an older black man who is a professional basketball coach and personal trainer.
He has been around the block a few times (especially with his insane former white wife) and, like Donovan Sharp, is a straight talker.
Another older black man who says it like it is calls himself RPM. He is a retired US Navy man who is married to a 'me love you long time', who he has called 'the meat sack' since she had an affair. He bought a sex doll (one of the good ones) and uses it to mess with his wife's head.
This may sound odd for someone from my part of the political spectrum, but the black red pill content creators are represented disproportionally among my favourites, because of their school of life wisdom and no-nonsense delivery. They are also entertaining.
@cth96190 I also follow Coach Greg Adam and Richard Cooper. Since recently, I'm following The Saint and the Sinner. Each has a different perspective and approach which makes it all seem interesting. Fundamentally, they are all right when it comes to female nature. And ofcourse, the wahmen will get mad
Would be ok if a woman said the exact thing about men like controlling men like slaves? If not, you are hypocritical
If you dont like getting manipulated and controlled by women, you should not do this to any woman then. I mean you can't have it your cake and eat it too. Only young naive girls fell for this. Even it is female nature, this does not make it ok. Rap is actually a part of the male nature but mentally healthy men can control their instincs, so can do that women with healthy mind. No woman in the right mind would not want a man to manipulate her and control her
@hi_it_is_me123
Donovan Sharp is using psychology to get his desired result from the female.
When I was younger I was fucked over by women in every imaginable way. Women manipulate men constantly, because they are programmed biologically to do so.
It is hypocritical for a female to be 'offended' when a man uses psychology on a woman.
Good men finish last.
Yes, i know that women manipulate more since they are physically weaker sex and that was their weapon to survive while men used their physical advantage to survive in the stone age but today we do not leave in such a time period. I also know that psychological violence happen more by women while physical violence happen more by men because of the reason i explained. Any man/woman who think their instincs are excuses for their bad behaviour is an asshole and needs treatment. I am also sorry for you what happened to you
@hi_it_is_me123
I hope that one day you realise that you have been psychologically conditioned with Marxist lunacy, which is contrary to nature and common sense.
We cannot fight our biology, nor should we.
You want men to stop being men and women to stop being women. You want everyone to become part of some bland gender-neutral sludge.
You cannot change the result of millions of years of natural selection to conform to an artificial moral construct that has been put into your head by the so-called education system.
My view is that if an ideology is in conflict with nature, when it is the ideology that is in the wrong.
Male and female brains are physically different and each has a different OS. That is a biological reality.
As a former soldier, I can tell you that you are completely wrong when you say that male physical power and psychology are no longer needed to defend the cave.
Men will ALWAYS be needed as hunters and warriors.
Ask women who survived ISIL and the Taliban how well that Feminist theory worked for them.
So you want women and men follow their instincs blindly? Then what would be the difference between animals and you? Our nature can be immoral since in the nature rape, pedophilia and all that is normal. So nah and believe me you do not want women to follow their instincs blindly since majority of men end up single then due to the femal hypergamy. Men do not like that the whole female nature for a reason and vica versa.
I am also not a modern Feminist. I dont support islam, illegal/uncontrolled/ Immigration/ blm/anti-white movement etc. unlike modern feminists. We also use more and more machines instead of humans, so in the near future male physical strengh will be irrelevant. And one question do really want women to act by nature? I do not think so. I discuss with a lot men and they can't stand this hypergamous nature of women and i do understand them since female nature is very picky/shallow and eliminate the majority of men and the reason for this was because females want the best genes for their off-spring. Nowdays this is stupid. I am not going to reject a man just because he is not the most attractive/ rich man although "my nature" would not agree with me. Thank you for your reply.
By the way i do not force my believes on anyone. I have no problem with it if you want to be traditional man and prefere a traditional woman. I am not a traditional woman, this why i do not expect any guy to pay the date, to protect me like a bodyguard, fix my things etc. If i like him, i do not even a problem with him being submissive as long as we have the same values
@hi_it_is_me123
"We also use more and more machines instead of humans, so in the near future male physical strengh will be irrelevant."
You have no idea how the world works.
I would like to send you to army basic training; strap 40kg of equipment (normal infantry load) to your body; deprive you of food and sleep for four days; send you 10km cross country at quick time; then have you assault up a hill, while maintaining formation; then bayonet fight a couple of 100kg angry men on the objective. I can assure you that Abdul, Jamal and Charlie have not done gender sensitivity training.
When I was trained as an officer, the course was mixed (had females).
The females had the spirit (they were selected on that basis), but not one of them was physically capable of keeping up with even the weakest of the men.
Male strength, male logical thought process, male determination and male imagination were what civilisation was built upon.
It will always be needed. If you take it away, civilisation will collapse. The civilisation that disrespects its men will be conquered by the civilisation that values its men. Think fall of the Roman Empire.
You also do not understand basic biology.
Both genders should select reproductive partners on the basis of genetics, to ensure optimal offspring.
To do anything else is a dysgenic process that results in low IQs who qualify for a disabled parking space. That cannot sustain a civilisation.
This really makes me sad, actually. It implies that dating is just a big game for both men and women. It bothers me to see that people both believe and act this way, in both genders. When I go out with someone new, I'm not looking to win an upper hand, I'm more focused on my nerves and getting to know him.
I'd prefer the conversation upfront-- I'm not dating multiple people at once and if you are, that's ok but I'd prefer to get to know one person romantically and see if we click. I don't need full, girlfriend level commitment. But if I'm seeing and getting to know you, I want to pursue that alone. And that's not manipulation, I just want him to know that I see something in him and hopefully he sees something in me too.
The whole social media thing--- does email count? I mean, where does it end? I don't think social media is ever going away. It's a point of connection. I also see how social media can make things difficult for relationships. Transparency is a good thing in a relationship but the communication between the two parties doesn't need to be such a negative, demanding issue like he's making it to be.
I know we don't always agree but I was glad to see your opinion of this man was poor.
My compliments for your open mindedness and mature comment that does not instantly judges the messenger (unlike some others). Unfortunately, on a larger scale, we live in a time where dating is FULL of manipulation and games. Hence why so many people either stopped dating all together or have trust & commitment issues. Dating has become a ery superficial thing. I wish it was still as it used to be in our grandparent's time. But it's not. It's far, far worse. There is a reason why people distance themsevles from dating. Marriage rates have also never been this low.
Donovan is the type of content creator that preaches the ugly truth. In this case, mostly about female nature in today's day of age. If more men and women were like what you have described, then he would have a whole other career. His channel would not have existed the way it currently does. And frankly. his content is what helps men like myself know how to seduce and keep a woman (happy).
I myself am fortunate to have met a lovely girl (who is now my girlfriend) and who holds old school views on relationships. But before finding her, I had to weed out many more superficial girls both online and in real life.
Stop listening to this guy immediately. He's fuelling the ridiculous idea of 'the gender war' and he's a self-serving strategist who's only going to create more problems for men wanting to have real relationships with women.
For instance, what is this crap?
"When you angle for commitment first, you are forfeiting your right to make any further requirements of her."
That is not how healthy relationships work, or should be viewed. At all.
And no one can get someone else to not use social media. That's not for anyone to say. The internet is not going anywhere, and neither is social media. Yes, some people have a very unhealthy obsession with it, and if you get together with someone who lets it dominate their time, mood, or self-image, that is a problem. But he's nuts for trying to strategize how to manipulate a person into giving something up that he doesn't want.
Honestly, this guy is going to do more damage than good. I'd stay away from him.
I think there are cases where guys who commit end up with wives that feel like they don't have to try.
But overall I agree with you. If he was right, I would never want to date again because I'm a very direct person and I hate passive aggressiveness, manipulation and all that bullshit.
I'm hoping to bring awareness of toxic messages like that to this website and also have a few questions of my own answered.
I agree with you.
But just remember, women are no more likely to relax and put in less effort, than anyone else. That's what happens when two people get more comfortable with each other. This guy specifically mentioning that, and all that disgusting strategizing, is him trying to have the upper hand in a relationship, which is never, ever going to work in the long run.
The thing that you gain over time from being with someone is acceptance, being able to let your guard down, and not always have to be 'on.' And that goes both ways. It's human. Everyone wants that.
I agree with you.
But just remember, women are no more likely to relax and put in less effort than any other person. Him singling them out and strategizing about how to have the upper hand is just him strategizing, and that will never, ever work in the long run.
Healthy relationships are about give and take, with neither giving or getting more than the other. Yes, that's somewhat of an ideal, and not always the way it works out, but expecting something else, or trying to manoeuvre won't work. People feel that.
One of the benefits to being in a relationship is eventually being able to relax, and not have to put as much effort in as the very beginning stages (that does that a lot of effort), and to be 'on' all the time. And that goes back ways. It's normal, to want to relax. Men do it too, believe me.
You sound reasonable, as are your expectations, and you don't need this guy.
"being able to let your guard down, and not always have to be 'on.'"
That's what my friendships are like and that's what I definitely shoot for in a relationship.
Thanks for the reassurance though.. I really dislike the idea of a relationship where two people are constantly trying to get the upper hand against each other in some twisted game.
Hahaha not surprised a woman dislikes this guy for spitting straight facts. No, we won't stop listening to him. Because he teaches what women actually WANT, but often don't admit. "No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth"
@TruthBringer Such a stupid argument - 'women don't know what they want, don't admit it.' If you can be 'TruthBringer' so can we, buddy. You guys just don't want to hear it.
Anything that you have with a woman cannot be called 'a relationship.' Someone to fuck and manipulate is not a partner. Just go and buy yourself a sex doll and be done with it.
@AmandaYVR Hahaha yeah it's only a "stupid argument" because it triggers your cognitive dissonance. You just stick to your debunked "truth" while we stick to actual truth that actually reflects the real world. There is a reason why the manosphere has grew as large as it has. Because the information shared not only resonated with men, but also reflect real life. Not our fault that people like yourself can't handle the fact that more and more men out there aren't willing to deal with bullshit females and modern feminism bring. The marriage rates are an indication of that alone. They have never been this low.
And sorry to break it to you, sweetie, but I'm in a healthy and happy committed relationship with a girl who knows how to be a teamplayer. She takes care of me as well as I take care of her. There is ano manipulation in our relationship or "sex doll". But please, do keep guessing. Your cognitive dissonance is quite entertaining.
Donovan is right.
@TruthBringer
I typed a paragraph to you but I deleted it and will just say fuck off instead. I don't fight for entertainment.
And p. s. I know about your blocking list. You sexist piece of shit.
Don't know why someone would put up with you irl, but tell her thanks for keeping you off the marketplace. She's doing everyone a service there.
@AmandaYVR Hahahah lovely how you engaged me as a person, rather my statement. And nice checking out my profile. Typical things coming from someone who doesn't have the intellectual capacity to come with a valid comeback. And no, I'm not sexist for learning about TRUE female nature and knowing how to act accordingly. Sorry sweetie, but it's you guys who opened your legs to me. And don't worry about my girl, she is very content in her relationship with me. I'm taking her to Disneyland as a birthday surprise. Don't worry about her. You stick to your butthurt emotions while men like myself stick to reality. Ciao Ciao
I agree and also this guy is fucking hypocritical. He expect his potential partner to not use any social media platform but himself has a fucking youtube. What a hypocritical m*r*n he is.
I also was like the female version of him. I expected from guys to not watch porn and do not have any social media account which was so stupid of me. Thanks to my current boyfriend i have a healthy view of a relationship now. I think guys like that have trust issues since i also was like him due to my trust issues and it felt like terrible to have this worries about your potential partner using social media or watching porn and think they could on you due to porn/social media. Now i do not care if my boyfriend watches porn and use social media since i trust him and vica versa and feel a lot better
and thinking they could cheat on you due to porn/social media**
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u I am not going to watch a 15 minute video just to see if I agree with him. I did watch the the first 1-2 minutes in which he explained that a guy should never tell a woman what she must do; I agree with that part of what he said.
Everything it's a war, people just don't know it yet.
Someone wins, someone loses, someone switches sides.
Someone gets tried and executed too.
Well it wouldn't work on me. First off, sleeping with each other for several weeks and then ask "where is this thing headed?" I guess it's pretty common nowadays to casually sleep around but it wouldn't be for me. So his "stategy" is probably more for people are not as prone to commitment anyways.
I think it's fine to set boundaries. If you really don't want to date a women who has social media, you can make that a requirement while dating. However, the reality would be that most women probably would say "ok then we aren't a good fit cause I won't give it up" He acts like just because he framed it differently, he can ask for anything and the women will agree.
But what bothers me the most here is that he acts like people in a healthy relationship can't talk to their partners about certain things that bothers them. He acts like everything the guy requires has to be set in stone while dating cause once you're official, she won't give you anything anymore.
If your partner really doesn't care about you, once you made it official, they aren't the one for you.
Tbh he is correct.
This is how you do deal with women nowadays unless you want everything to be an argument.
I like the idea of a woman being a housewife, if i marry her. Im not going to get in a relationship, and definitely not get married, and then ask her to give up work and be a housewife. That will be inconsiderate and cause an argument.
Instead I would say, that i want my wife/mother of my kids to stay at home and take care of the home and raise our children, while im still talking to a woman. this is before any relationship blossoms. That way i already played my card and she can decide whether to accept the condition or not. She knows that this is what i want and if thats not something that she can do, she won't pursue it further.
There are women out there who are more reasonable and won't take everything as an argument, and i would recommend you to find one, but unfortunately a lot of women have been poisoned by feminism and will take any request or question as a reason to start an argument. They think that its somehow disrespecting them. So you have to try other ways than just asking them directly.
All I can say is that I wish I knew content creators like Donovan Sharpe a lot sooner. Many dislike him because he throws facts in people's faces about female nature AND masculinity. It's usually the sissy ones who can't stand this guy's arguments. Not only has he proven to be a high value male, but his content resonates with today's dating environment. It's thanks to absorbing information from content creators like him that I knew how to get my shit together and get into meaningful relationships like I do now.
I also love how he dissects articles from feminists and roasts them. It's content like his that a lot of fathers in this world fail to teach their sons and daughters. Even if it's the UGLY TRUTH. An ufly truth is still the truth.
@MzAsh Dovovan isn't the best role model, no. But what he preaches is spot on. The dynamic of his relatoinship with his girl seems to work for the both of them. Just because you don't see yourself in her shoes, doesn't necessary make her a "basic Becky" or "dumb". The only people I've seen get triggered by Donovan and his relationship are either the Feminazis or the white knight simps.
It’s more than just those demographics. I don’t think the majority of decent people would appreciate the if his double standards when it comes to phone access, clubbing or going out, or social media. Those three things he excuses for himself to harps against one women. It’s hypocritical.
@MzAsh I don't think he is wrong in his reasoning. If you're in a relationship with somebody, things like clubbing or social media either muts be limited or excluded all together as these are the gateways to cheating or any other scenarios that cause problems within a relationship.
Funny thing is, Donovan described these shaming tactics you are portraying here. Anything a man does that take away the ability for a woman to cheat or act on her hypergamous nature, is portrayed as "bad". He also never told dudes to go out to clubs or anything. Also, his woman is free to leave whenever she wants. He is not keeping anyone hostage. No true red pilled person keeps someone around against their will. Any woman is free to choose to go. Sorry, but I'm with Donovan on this one. He teaches men how to deal with modern women and not allowing feminazi mentality or hypergamy seep and poison a relationship.
He obviously has laid out relationship terms to which he has implemented on his girlfriend but not on himself. He says he doesn’t date girls on social media but look at how much he’s on social media. In one video he says “well what if she asks you not to go clubbing, see your phone, or delete social media? Well if you’re high value enough of a man, she won’t.” And that’s the hypocrisy I’m talking about.
@MzAsh His social media is his way of income and his girl is working on it WITH him. She is also getting paid through there. And his answer to that question stems not for having a green card to go clubbing, but rather being high value means your woman doesn't question your actions or integrity. Your interpretations differ from mine and that of the red of the red pill community.
He says multiple times that his girl is free to leave whenever she likes. Even though he has invested in her heavily. It's not meant for everyone. I personally wouldn't date a girl who is so keen on breaking fundamental rules regarding clubbing or social media. Those are almost always low quality women.
@MzAsh It's not the social media itself. It's about how it's being used. A lot of girls/women use the "insecure" or "controlling" label in order to shame men in not tolerating actions that are associated with their hypergamous nature. And usually, those same girls/women want to show off on social media in order to get validation/attention from other men. Also, the club is notorious for low quality men and women to go there. It's also a perfect set for cheating to happen. So ofcourse no high value man is going to accept his woman to do what I have just mentioned. If social media is being used for work such as LinkedIn or a portfolio to show off skills/hobbies (like design or photography) or even just show some modest vacation photo's or daily life, it's fine. But often, it's used to seek attention. And no high value man is going to invest in a woman who seeks attention outside of the relationship.
Not letting a woman get away with bad behavior doesn't make us "controlling". It means we have standards. And ironically, often those who let women get away with things, end up getting cheated on or lose respect. It's no secret that women want a strong man who is not scared to put his foot down, show his standards and willing to walk away.
And again, he is not keeping her on a short leashe. She is free to do whatever she likes. He isn't stopping her. He set certain rules for them both and she went with it. What Donovan preaches helps men.
In this video, he already debunked a lot of what you said:
https://youtu.be/ThP08ydmqNU
@Juxtapose Trust is earned, not given. And not expecting my girl to go to clubs equals being "paranoid" or "controlling? Oh please... Also, why share a video and ask if it's correct if you already made up your mind about it?
Juxtapose, not to mention the intermittent explosive disorder. Very serious and dangerous. In one video you can see that he busted up his tv in a fit. It doesn’t show him doing to but he admitted that he did and you can see the damage. No one should be in a relationship with someone who has that until they get professional help.
@MzAsh Donovan the TV Destroyer xD But yeah.. that is pretty serious and he needs help. Kind of explains why he went to prison in the past too.
And @TruthBringer.. you should be able to trust who you are with absolutely. And the only way you can gain that trust is by giving them opportunities to betray you and witnessing them stay loyal even though it's not necessarily convenient for them.
There are women with a very strong inner light who will not compromise their integrity in all but the most extreme situations where anyone will fold eventually, such as torture.
@MzAsh What you say about allowing them to have an opportunity to break the trust is very correct. There are MANY ways to break that trust without the need of going to clubs or social media alone. One way for them to break the trust is stepping over the boundary for going to clubs. Why should I allow my girl to seek environments that push her to break my trust. It's usually because of alcohol alone that cheating happens. Wether the person intended or not. My girl trusts me, but doesn't like the idea me going to an American pool party either. I totally get and respect that. At the end of the day, you have your preference and so do others. Just because men like myself find girls who go clubbing a dealbreaker, doesn't mean we are in the wrong. Because our belief is reinforced by countless events either in our own lives or that of others.
A lot of men including myself fully agree with Donovan when it comes to setting boundaries. Wether he has anger management issues or not is not relevant to the knowledge he spreads.
@Juxtapose To each their own my friend
I admit, I watch a lot of stuff from that community. I find it interesting and it keeps me up with what guys are doing. As a writer, and likely future podcaster myself, I’m finding it useful for topic ideas. I don’t disagree with everything they say, but I find a lot of conflicting objectives between men and women. I think it’s a matter of time before he pulls one of my articles. That should be fun lmfao
Why ask my advice? I'm too "religious" and "prudish" for you people. Don't need advice for somebody who has 0 experience. Ask somebodh else. I know nothing.
No. My assumption is correct. He hits the mark on a lot of good points where I can respect them on as a man, but plenty of other things I do not agree with. But as I said before. You men pick those women, stop complaining about those women. Period. Its not so hard to get a partner. Its simply finding a partner your compatible with thats the problem. Many of you have no standards at all.
Whoever said that I am better than you. If one thing I'm doing way better than you because at least I know I can secure person but you can't. It's not that people are funny with sex. It's because God had made sex something is very valuable, very precious, that's supposed to be stable, that is supposed to be enjoyable, but it's also very serious, powerful, and if use the wrong way, very dangerous. No. Sex is never about experience. It's about learning. You growing you learn with that person. It's not about getting better at it. It's about becoming one with that individual. And basically you had five wives and you're freaking complaining.
It's not religious. It's not oppression. Sexual Purity is not disgusting. You're just a sucker because you already filthy as a person. And you think somebody else wants to come along with that filth. But then you can't get not one person to really be interested in them to stay with you, because now that you feel feel below your soul quote level. You're being a hypocrite. Sex is not about that stuff. You make it about that because that's how you view it but you're still unhappy. And I know about Chess. Jess is not about your experience or the amount of games you won. It's about the still and how you play the game. But unlike chess, sex is not a game. And it's definitely not a toy
Put it like this. You lack the quality is needed for real relationship. I keep telling you people before and I'm tired of sounding like a broken record. If you don't want to get your act together stop complaining and wasting other people's time. Your autism has zero to do with your success in life. It's your life choices and everything has a consequence. You reap what you sow. And now you're sowing bad seeds in life. Don't get mad at me for something you chose to do. It's simple, basic, common, sense. And what makes it worse. I think it's very clear that there is something about you, which I already know what it is and trust me it's not you being autistic, that's what these women off. So at that point since you don't want to hear everything I got to say, continue being stubborn.
You're getting older, buddy, not younger. I know what I have to do as a woman. I don't have that problem. But you're the one that having that problem. Either you take care of what I got to say or in the words of my late great-grandmother: Suffer.
I only watched a tiny bit of the video but I’ve seen Donovon before. There’s two schools of thought in red pill (that I know of). He believes in dating women long term as an option and possibly marrying but thinks he can control female nature. The. You have the school of guys who don’t want any relationships.. just casual. I’m sort of in between. Ha.
I don’t play games but I have no sympathy for the 90% of women out there manipulating men every minute of their lives who then want to play victim if a man turns the tables.
Myself, I just know what I want and tell her she can hit the road if that’s a problem. Some think that’s unfair but i’m not running a democracy on issues important to me
This guy is a grunting cave man. I feel sorry for women who are stupid enough to fall for low value creeps like him.
What kind of moronic antiwoman incel shit is that? If a woman said that shit about men, she would be called a feminazi and also the comment-section under the video is full of incesure little men with trust issues. Dont @me, i am not going to read your reply. So dont spam me
Sorry for reacting like that. I also want to add that social media is part of our life and so isolating yourself from the digital world, is not that easy thing and does sound ok to me. I also think, you should trust your partner since some people think cheating happens because of social. No a loyal person would not cheat on you even if you put him/her in the middle of most attractive models.
Thank you for mho. Man sorry again for reacting like that agressive. He made me angry. A sane woman would not date such guy.
There are a good number of guys and girls giving their audience free advice, with differing levels of virtue and accuracy.
Not a big fan of this guy and although there some truth in what he says from a certain perspective, he seems discourteous in his delivery and I would recommend you not take his words verbatim.
I think its a bit heavy handed but the sentiment rings true in my opinion (though to be fair I don't do well with drama or games so that could be my bias).
Yes it does. Now technically this exists in all relationships to an extent, I think for his representation though is one that is worse then others. This is how you have to act with low and mid quality women. Its also an issue with our current society that panders to women and never holds them accountable so they never feel they need to do anything for the man.
In addition they have tried to emasculate men in our society, the irony being that now these same women who wanted to be what men were are upset that men are "no longer men" and so they now crave that masculinity to the extent that its taken on a darker and more extreme view of masculinity (hence the prevalence of rape fantasies among women (80%), their consumption of violent porn (bdsm, rape, forced sex, gangbangs etc. which 70% of its consumers are women) and things like 50 shades of grey.
So I think once you find that woman of higher value, while your going to have to assert that masculine dominance and control, it won't have to be necessarily as transactional or aggressive as he represents, you just need to find a healthy balance (which society has disrupted). Hence my view of it being heavy handed but not necessarily wrong in and of itself.
"So I think once you find that woman of higher value, while your going to have to assert that masculine dominance and control"
I can do that in bed occasionally but I don't date women to control them, it's a turnoff for me. I'm a switch but lean heavily towards submission myself and I would much prefer a dominatrix or woman who just treats me equally all the time.
Women who expect me to take the lead in the relationship are incredibly boring to me.
Then find that woman, they are few but they do exist. Most women need a man to take control (its not dominance per say, what they are looking for is a leader, some one to guide them rather then a tyrannt who dictates what they are allowed to do), so just be prepared that its going to take you some tries before you find the right one.
Definitley go with non traditional women if that is the case.
You want to control woman but not vica versa?- except the woman you date has no problem with it. I only let my potential boyfriend control me if he also lets me control him. The thing is the more strict and controlling you are on someone -in this case on your partner, the more this person will lie and break the rules. I saw that a lot. And there is nothing wrong with bdsm. I watch violent/rough porn but i do not prefere a guy who is controllig/toxic. I also know men who are nice and respect you and do not control any woman but they love bdsm in bed. Sexual preferences are complete a different thing.
@hi_it_is_me123 Every woman wants a leader, this is a fact. By nature women are submissive, this is why he has to take the lead, he has to take care of her, he has to protect her, he has to provide for her. This is also why women are obessed with confidence because confidence implies status, it implies the ability to make decisions and lead. That is why they want men who are ambitious, because it means he will climb the social ladder, he will earn more and he will again, be a leader.
You can pretend like this isn't true, but your going to be way happier when you realize this is in fact what all (or practically all) women want (again, if you didn't want it you wouldn't obesses over powerful men, you wouldn't be sexually aroused by the thought of a man taking control of you (again, I have already listed the statistics on this)).
Leading some one is not the same as controlling them, i even pointed that out. If he is dictating every action to you he is not in control he is afraid and no woman wants a man who is afraid. Again, I have already addressed that. Being a leader is not about control.
As for sexual preferences, you have them because you are attracted to those personalities and behaviors, you cannot divest yourself from that fact. What you crave in life is what you crave in sex, period. I never said anything was particularly wrong with bdsm, I said it is a manifestation of women's desire to be submissive to a dominant man which it absolutely is (you cannot argue against that because that is literally what BDSM and forced sex/rape fantasies are, her being forced to submit to a man).
@hi_it_is_me123 My point about the BDSM and violent porn is that since you reject your submissive and feminine side in your every day life, it magnifies your desire to be sexually dominated, that is why it takes a more extreme nature because you are not in balance with whom you are outside of sex and the violent sex is the release valve for your emotions.
You know in bdsm women can be dominant too? How do you know i watch the one where the man is dominant :)? One of the reasons why i brok up with my ex was his cringey obsession with dominance.
Anyway each their own. Prefere what you want as long as you are not forcing your believes on someone. By the way thank you for your replies
@hi_it_is_me123 Sure but overwhelmingly women are not dominant, again, over 70% of women have rape/forced sex fantasies, that is very much not on the dominant end of BDSM. Not sure why you would try to suggest otherwise, female written and read erotica also shows women as the submissive and men as the dominant. Its actually unusual for the woman to be the dominant (not that it doesn't happen only that its the exception not the rule).
I've never forced my beliefs on anyone nor did I suggest doing so, I believe in freedom for every one not just me (again, not sure why you would suggest otherwise). Also again, leadership is not the same as dominance, my point was that once women find a man who is a proper leader they will more then likely ease up on their dom/sub fantasies as they are finally getting in their everyday life the thing they crave (Which again, is not the same as telling her what to do when to do it etc. that is not leadership that is controling and controling comes from a place of insecurity not confidence which is why women don't want that).
Ok i do understand you. Again each their own but i hope you do not think having rape fantasies is an excuse to belittle rape. I have seen men who think rape is ok since some women have rape fantasies or so on. I personally think this is just bdsm and not rape/forced fantasies and also fantasy is fantasy as long as you do not practice it. Whatever thank you for your reply
Can you also define it what exactly a leader is? I mean you said they do not tell you what you should do and do not controll you. I personally think it is ok to have a dom-sub relationship as long as it is healthy.
@hi_it_is_me123 I've been raped, no I do not think having rape fantasies means you get to belittle rape, I do think rape fantasies in fact belittle rape and make it into something "kinky" when in fact its not (most women who have these fantasies have no idea what rape really is. Its like a man watching a porno to understand male and female interactions, its no were close to reality).
I have no issue with dom sub relationships, what I was saying is that this is not inherent to male leadership in a relationship. Look at leadership in any other context. Think of a manager, what is their job? To make sure your doing yours right? So in that end they do have the authority to tell you what to do, to guide you when your not quite reaching your mark etc. They have this authority because they also have the responsibilities that come with that role i. e. if you fail, they fail. This is how it works in relationships.
He has to protect you and provide for you (this is a fact, every statistic shows this is what women want so if we can speed past this argument I would appreciate it (their is nothing wrong with this either, just like their is nothing wrong with a man wanting an attractive woman, it all has a biological basis and serves a practical function (as long as it doesn't get out of hand its perfectly healthy and reasonable)). So how can he do that if you are the one giving orders? Well he can't. How can he take the lead, make decisions if you ignore them? It would be like a manager that has no authority, if they can't tell you what to do to make things work better things are going to fall apart and if you are still putting that responsibility on them then you are dooming them to failure.
@hi_it_is_me123 So you want a man to be assertive but refuse to listen to him or obey him then your demanding him to be both dominant and submissive at the same time and it simply isn't going to work. If you are expecting him to be the provider and pay for everything (again, this is the case), thats fine but if your not giving anything in return then he is going to stop giving a damn (this is why traditional gender roles had men provide and protect and be the leader while traditional gender roles for women had her being the nurturer, the maintainer (cooking cleaning and maintaining what he provided while he was off working (and thus unable to do so himself) and the one who provided sex (as marriage was a reproductive contract so he provided what he did for the right to reproduce). If you remove this dynamic then your asking for trouble because he has responsibilities without authority which means he is submissive and you will be unhappy because you will not feel secure. If you can admit that you want to submit (again to the right person (just like a boss, if your boss is controling and an asshole, you get a new job. If your boyfriend is controlling and an asshole, you get a new boyfriend, its not that the role was wrong, it was that he was not fullfilling his role properly), you can allow him to take the reigns so to speak and help lead you and the relationship in a way that makes you feel secure and him useful which will make both of you happier.
@hi_it_is_me123 This is the only way I really know how to articulate it. Again, I am not criticising sub/dom relationships (I like being called daddy during sex, its a dominance thing, so not saying this is inherently bad. I'm pointing out how extreme its gotten, that is what makes it an issue (all things in moderation)), I was pointing out that this is a natural extension of non sexual relationships between men and women. My point was because women are trying to take on the role of the man its making them unhappy so in order to compensate they are getting more extreme in the sexual end of it in order to compensate for not getting to be more submissive in their non sexual roles. Think of it as a scale, on one side you have your non sexual parts of your relationship, on the other side is the sexual. If one side is deficient, it tends to come out on the other side of the scale in one form or another.
@hi_it_is_me123 If you want, as a better example of a man leading the relationship, think of a father. He is the one in charge but that doesn't mean he is telling you what you can and cannot do per say, he is in control because his job is to keep you safe, to guide you, to provide for you so everything he does is an extension of that. It doesn't come from a place of insecurity or a desire for power but from a place of love and concern. A good father will take control if things are starting to get out of hand but otherwise will leave you to your own devices so you can learn and grow from your experiences. This is kind of the dynamic between men and women in relationships.
ohh ok i understand it better. Thank you for your reply. And does a leader or submissive woman has to have a traditional job? I mean a working woman can also be submissive and listen/ obey to his partner and the same for men. A man also can give orders without being the main provider. I personally think it is very risky and critical to let yourself financially dependent on someone. I think it would be ideal that both have cooking skills and are financially independent since you do not know if he/she leaves in the future and you maybe end up being homeless. Letting yourself dependent on a man may lso be extrem unfair to him. I mean he has to work like 50+ hours a week, while the woman do a little work at home except you have small kids but you dont have them forever but again i dont tell what they should do, i respect their decisions. Then does it also affect the sex life? I mean can a be a 'leader' very soft with his partner in bed without being very dominant and rough? Omg sorry for the ridiculous question. Sorry for spaming and thank your for your replies
@hi_it_is_me123 (I apologize for the length of this, I'm trying to answer all the questions but I'm a bit tired so I think I might have gotten a little rambling so again, I apologize). Well statistically traditional gender roles make people happier. Also you say its risky to be financially dependent on them, well thats not entirely true. For starters legally you can get money from him if their is a divorce (and statistically women file for divorce more then men, because she has that money she can extract from him as a security blanket meaning divorce can actually benefit her but only hurts him (statistically speaking (obviously exceptions exist))), so its not really all that risky.
Second, it forces women to actually be dedicated to her husband (at least to some degree) so in this regard its a very good thing. See currently men are the only ones dedicated to women and taking a risk. If he marries her, she owns him. If he does something wrong she can divorce him, take most of his money, his home, and his children and their is nothing he can do about it. If she decides she is bored of him (70% of divorces are filed by women, most sited reason being no fault) and divorces him, she can take most of his money, his home, and his children and their is nothing he can do about it. If she does wrong, she can divorce him and take most of his money, his house, and his children and their is nothing he can do about it. So he is willing to take that risk but your saying you don't think its fair that you should have to also take a risk?
@hi_it_is_me123 By being financially dependent (and this is of course not always possible, so I'm not saying this is an absolute must but it is something you should aim towards), what it does is burn her bridges. No longer does she have one foot out the door (I mean already your planning for an escape when you say its dangerous for her to be financially dependent on him (and statistically again, if we look at divorce its mostly initiated by women but statistically over 50% of those who initiate divorce REGRET IT. This is important to keep in mind.). By being dependent you are burning your bridges which means you are now forced to choose your partner more wisely (you have to be able to trust that he isn't going to abandon you or screw you over), and it forces you to actually be all in the marriage/relationship because you don't have other options (or they are more extreme options). This forces you to actually communicate with him, work with him and actually provide something to him to balance the scales.
@hi_it_is_me123 Because he is giving what he has to you (and again, this is indisuptable, 80% of women surveyed stated they wanted the man to pay for dates, 80% of domestic spending is done by women despite them being only 30% of domestic earnings i. e. she spends all of her money and most of his, and men spend four times more on women during holidays then women spend on men etc.), by being financially dependent on him you are required to give something in return. SO right now your saying he should know how to cook and yes of course he should, but why doesn't she need to have to pay for her own things (again, no woman is willing to do this, the statistics bare this out (again it makes sense but balance is necessary)? If we look at statistical data again, men work slightly more then women do, yet its his money that pays the bills so your saying he should pay the bills, protect you and also do half the house work as well? Well then what is in it for him? You must give the equivalent value or he will be unhappy and so will you.
As for a man not being the main provider but giving orders, yes this is true but do you respect him? Not really (statistically speaking women are less happy in relationships where they earn more then their husband/partner, they are also more likely to divorce and less likely to marry a man who earns less then them). Again, this is biology, reproduction is cost intensive for women but not for men, so in order to balance this out men provide for women and protect them.
@hi_it_is_me123 So can you decide to be non traditional? Sure, I mean it was always the individuals choice I can't make you do anything even if I wanted to (and I don't, I believe people have the right to live their lives as they see fit), but how is it balanced? I mean you say he needs to cook as much as she does, fine but that also means she has to do the yard work as much as he does, pay the bills as much as he does, check out the weird noises down stairs at night as much as he does, plan dates as much as he does, romance him on valentines day as much as he does etc. etc. etc. which not only do we not see happening, but the overwhelming majority of women admit they don't want to do. So that brings us back to the original issue of, whats in it for him? I mean your not going to work a job that doesn't pay you right? You also wouldn't stay in a relationship were you do everything and your partner doesn't do anything right? So why would he be any different? Again, their must be balance and the traditional model of relationships created not only that balance but also incentive to maintain that balance, non traditional relationships (as we can see from modern marriage stats ( upwards of 50% divorce rates (they have declined recently but that decline mirrors the decline in marriage over all (fewer people are getting married)), 70% of which are initated by women most sited reason being no fault (for men the most sited reason is her cheating (which is about 18% of all divorces and 60% of male initiated divorces), 33% of marriages are sexless etc. etc.)) do not maintain those balances nor the incentives to try and create them.
@hi_it_is_me123 So while I prefer a traditional relationship and statistically so do women, I don't really care if its a non traditional one so long as it is balanced and fair to both parties which almost no non traditional relationship actually is which again leads to both parties being unhappy.
Let me put it another way, you took a risk in getting into that relationship right? Why are you so afraid he will abandon you at that point (I mean statistically its the exact opposite, he has more to worry about then you and that is because again, he has to be entirely invested in the relationship or risks losing everything while she doesn't have to be invested at all (from an economic stand point as again 80% of alimony is paid by men to women and women are far more likely to divorce then men are (again, almost 90% of divorces are either caused by women or filed by women (ironic as the argument against making no fault divorces legal was that men would abandon their families but it turns out that the opposite is true (because again, men will be punished for it and women will not)).
So if you were willing to take that risk before, why would you suddenly decide not to take that risk later (especialy when you can divorce and take his money through alimony)? Or we can reverse the genders, why should he ever take the risk of marrying you given the statistics? I mean that is a huge risk, why should he ever do that for you if your not willing to take an equivalent risk for him?
@hi_it_is_me123 As for being unfair to him, well sure kind of but it happens anyway. He will be spending almost all of his money on you whether or not your working and this is just a fact, the difference is if your working your not giving him anything. I mean at least with the traditional relationship he works you cook and clean, then he gets home your able to tend to him. This makes him feel like it was worth it, you are not burned out so you can "restore" him so to speak (having a woman take care of her man is not a bad thing and most men (good ones anyway) appreciate this to a degree that you cannot understand (because in every single aspect of our life we do not get tended to, we tend to others we work for others everything is about being on guard, working and putting family and work first above our own well being. So the women in our lives taking care of us emotionally, doing laundry, cooking for us and generally showing their appreciation is, well its hard to explain but its a big deal and goes a long way (bill burr the comedian had a joke about this, his wife made him a sandwhich and gave it to him with a beer while he was cleaning his garage without even asking him, just did it. He joked how it happened like four years ago and he still fantasizes about that moment. With her working, she is not doing any of these things which makes our sacrifice seem pointless.
@hi_it_is_me123 As for the sex life, sure. However like I said, its a scale what is lacking in one aspect of life comes out in the other. If you are well balanced a man who is a leader can very well be gentle in bed its not necessary for him to be rough (personally I don't mind rough but I am not against gentle, I prefer intimacy and passionate (which is why I like the daddy kink, its dominant but loving instead of dominant and aggressive (I personally am a huge cuddlewhore (which is probably because I didn't get that kind of emotional and physical intimacy in my life when I was younger so again, it comes out in my romantic and sex life).
@hi_it_is_me123 Basically we cherish the things we invest in, if he is investing in this relationship more then you he will cherish it more then you. We also are more willing to work things out and communicate if we know that their will be consequences if we don't, so he is willing to try and fix the problems when they come up (now he may not realize their is a problem, which is an issue because many women don't directly communicate the issue and he doesn't realize that their is a problem until after she has decided to end the relationship, but he is willing to work things out), but if their is no consequence for failure to her she has no reason to try (not that she won't only that with having a way out you are less motivated to do so (as I have told people its like having two jobs, you don't have it for very long because you quickly realize that your not dependent on it so the second it gets stressful or some one pisses you off your gone because their is no motivation to maintain that job. Same goes for relationships, if you have an out, your more then likely going to take it because taking the path of least resistence is human nature). And lastly, he is willing to take a risk for you (marriage is a big risk for him and a big cost but it promises big rewards as well), so why are you afraid to take a big risk for him? We are more likely to fight for something if their is investment in it, if their is risk in it, and right now society has dictated that women shouldn't take those risks or put that investment into their relationships so those relationships are never as strong or full filling as they could be.
Ok. So many replies. I do not agree with some of your points. You do not need to marry officially. Staying at the same home with your partner is already marriage. I also think making someone dependent on you so that this person get indirectly forced to do certain things, is for me not morally ok. I would want someone who do things for me because he likes it, and Not forced and vica versa. I also do not agree with the divorce law in Us since it discriminates men but anyway i do not live in U. S, so such law is not the case here and i also think marriage is just a contract, so you just csn stay with your life- partner forever without marrying. Again each their own. Do what it makes you happy. And thanks for the replies
@hi_it_is_me123 I'm not saying your doing it to force them to do things for you, I never once said that. What I said is your are demanding that he be invested in you but you are then arguing how you shouldn't have to be invested in him, that was the issue. Again, I have no problems with people doing things that are equal but it must be real equal not this fake equal in name only that many women propose (yourself included).
That is why I pointed out, if you want it to be equal that is fine, you have to pay for half of the rent, you pay half the bills, you do half of the yard work he does half the house work, you do half of all the traditionally male things and he does half of all the traditionally female things. Fine, if that is what you want that is fair (I don't think either party will be truly happy with it but it is fair). but what your suggesting is that he has to take all the risk and get no reward, while women get none of the risk and all the reward.
If your not willing to take chances why should he? If your not willing to make any sacrifices why should he? If your not willing to distribute responsibility and reward/privilege equaly, why should he bother with it? Its no different then a man saying that women have to be traditional, that they have to cook and clean and obey him and have sex when ever he wants. . . but they also have to work and pay the bills because he refuses to do it. That is not a fair or just system, yet this is precisely the system that women demand of men. This is why men are not happy, this is why women are not happy, this is why marriage is falling apart and men are not wanting to get married, this is why our system has become disfunctional because women want him to do the work and she shouldn't have to, he has to make all the sacrifices and she doesn't. Either you both make sacrifices or neither of you do, which one is it?
@hi_it_is_me123 As for divorce laws, sure they are discriminatory but I can pretty much guarentee that where ever you live they are there as well. If you live in the UK not only does everything I said apply, but a woman can get alimony from a man she never married and never lived with (just happened recently). If you live in Canada again, the laws are basically the same. If you live in scandinavia again, laws are fairly similar (though they have gotten better and are probably better then in the US). So which country are you from?
I only read the some of the first sentences. How do you now i do fake equal shit? Prove it or do not imply shit about me. I have no problem with going outside when there are weird noises, i have no problem with doing stereotypical male job. You try so hard to be a victim and to blame women for every shit. I never mention about marriage but out of nowhere you talk about unfair laws when it comes to marriage etc. Nobody force you to marry. Do not marry, then there is no disrimination against you. I try my best to understand you but you only try to be a victim and try to put words in mouth i did not say. I am done with you. i am not going to read your replies since you get rude out of nowhere. Do not talk a shit about my personal life, this none of your business.
I am not going to continue a conversation when you attack me and assume things about life. My life is not your business and it has nothing to do with the topic and you made whole conversation about male problems out of nowhere. It says how you only care about yourself. At least i am pointing both male/female problems but you only want to talk about yourself and your gender. This says a lot of you.
@hi_it_is_me123 I didn't say you did, I said that is what is being suggested by women in the current day. If you are not agreeing that women have to pay for their meals on dates and half the bills then your not being equal, that wasn't an accusation but a statement of fact, you cannot be equal if you are not being equal. So I was pointing out that if women want to be equal that was what it entails, either they pay half of everything or traditionalism (were they trade what they have for what the man has and are equal in that way).
I've not been playing a victim, not sure why your deciding to get hyper aggressive with me, I was simply clarifying a position that statistically women want men to be providers (from being far less likey to date/marry a man with less money, being unhappy in relationships with men who make less money, to openly stating that they want men to pay for dates and the statistical fact that men spend four times more on women during hoildays then women do men and that women spend all of their earned income and half of the mans earned income as well based upon statistical data). This means that women do in fact want to be provided for and they prove it by their actions. So I was pointing out that women can claim otherwise but actions show that its not the case so in order to be equal in the fashion that you are claiming you have to do all of those things i mentioned not once, but every time just like him and almost all women have issue with this (statistically again, men pay for everything and work slightly more then women do when all forms of labor are factored in (house work, child rearing and paid labor).
@hi_it_is_me123 The fact that your getting angry over this when I haven't accused you of anything tells me that you probably don't do the things that I said would be necessary to be equal. So clearly this is a sore spot that you don't want to talk about because it hits to close to home otherwise you wouldn't be insulting me without provocation.
As for talking about the genders, thats because currently the system favors women to the disadvantage of men. At no point did I suggest men should not sacrifice for women, I in fact stated they should and pointed out women wanting a man to provide and protect them is not just normal, but is in fact healthy as long as it doesn't get out of hand. I simply pointed out that men are expected to make these sacrifices right now but no equivalent sacrifice is required of women and that is what our current problem is, one side has the responsibilities the other has privileges and this breeds resentment and strife and unhappiness within relationships so a balance must be found either by being traditional or having true equality within the relationship which women are statistically against. Were you came up with this idea that I was being rude I haven't the slightest (unless I used the term you in an empirical sort of way and you took it personally?), but that didn't happen as far as I can tell.
" Again, I have no problems with people doing things that are equal but it must be real equal not this fake equal in name only that many women propose (yourself included). "
what a pathetic liar you are. This is like when i say that many men would be hypocritical idiots (yourself included). You have made it about me out of nowhere. Just stay in your lane
@hi_it_is_me123 Ah, what I meant by that is when you are saying that he should pitch in with house work but he is also expected to do all the providing that is unfair. I didn't mean it as an insult but to point out that if you break things down, that is essentially what your asking for, him to sacrifice and for you not to, he must sign a contract binding himself to you in the form of marriage but only you have the ability to anull that contract with no consequence, you expect him to pay (because again, women expect this as stats show) but you also think its wrong for him to not pitch in with housework and traditionally women's roles. It wasn't an insult (Their was no animosity, I don't know how to convey tone in words so I apologize if it came off that way), it was an observation nothing more.
@hi_it_is_me123 So again, are you saying your not doing those things? Because if you are then my observation is accurate. I can only go by what your arguing. If you are arguing that he has to be traditional and you don't, that is you asking for an unequal relationship in the name of equality making it a fake equality. So do you always pay your half for dates? Do you always pay half the bills? If not then I don't see how I was inaccurate?
I watched just enough to get the gist of it; but by default I almost always think Donovan makes a solid point. And that bit is not just about social media...
Men use social media to discuss issues; women us social media to garner attention.
I can't stand people like him.
I listened to 15 seconds of what he said, and turned it off.
Don't watch vid links. But I gather this about what happens to a girl when you spurn them. Their little brain explodes. LOL
i have no idea... but the strategy seems powerful
full transparancy is necessary... i ain't gonna be no CUCK
this is male mind games. i hate mind games.
Unfortunately , yes.
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