That would feel as if they presented themselves as someone they’re not just to get me fall for them. That’s even worse than guys acting nice just to sleep with you. Ew.
hmm well in my case im a awkward guy, can't dance for shit usually and all in all not a smooth fella😂 so if i go to a "dating coach" who teaches me few dance moves that are easy and make me look better on the dance floor, teaches me proper etiquette and how to act in a fancier restaurant how to best bring my positives on the first date what kind of clothes look best on me etc how is that wrong? basically no I would not mind (if she is pretending to be something she is not, then that is not good)
Not at all. In fact, I've been in several situations where a group of girls worked to get me together with one of their friends. They totally manipulated the situation to make it happen, but what did it harm? I got to enjoy the social interaction and being the center of attention, which is great when it's positive.
I think dating coaches or PUA are trash. They don’t help yoh with long lasting relationships, only hookups. Of you want something long lasting gontkk on a marriage counselor- they every help couple who aren’t married but are together long term.
I wouldn't feel anything, I wouldn't care, lots of people utilize it in some capacity whether it's dating coaches, websites like this or just articles they find online.
Not everyone is born with that kind of confidence or social skills necessary sometimes they need a little help. There is nothing wrong with that.
Absolutely. Connection with someone isn't supposed to be a calculated system, it makes the target into a number on a spreadsheet. And then cue the trust issues with people using you, no way.
That makes me like 10x more afraid of dating lol... I don't understand the perk behind picking up someone you think is attractive by.. well basically manipulating them into liking you back... It directly turns that person into an object or prey, instead of a person you just genuinely enjoy time with
See EXACTLY!! And I so hear you, dating has become a game... Finding someone has become like ordering take out at a fast food place... Relationships have become a revolving door, first hint of trouble, egg trade em in for a new model or, next... And then you add in the hook up, friends with benefits culture, and yeah... No thanks... Why have stayed single since my hubby passed 7 years ago
Absolutely, it's mental how many people I find just in my DMs using the same things all the time to try and get me interested, let alone the disgusting pictures of things built up for miles. Everyone seems to think they can access anything they want, any person they want, as if they're entitled to someone just because they want them. I've seen it happen to so many of my best mates and they've all come back to me saying it didn't work out.. At this point there isn't any need to wonder why. And I'm sorry for your partner passing, it makes sense why you'd want to stay away from dating after experiencing that
I can understand that, takes time to heal But yeah people are really fucked up more than ever... Plus anything anyone ever wants anymore is sex and that's just not it XD
I would be impressed by their rational approach to mate selection. During my 20s and 30s I read a lot of books about psychology and communication. They helped, because I had been really bad with women.
I’d rather she just be herself, no matter how “clumsy” she might be, but it would also show she really was putting effort into it and really wanted it.
Yeah but then wouldn't what she does feel contrived, not real? I don't want someone to do something because that's what someone told them would work, I want them to do it because that's how they were feeling or how I made them feel
It’s intent that matters here. She’s trying to make herself dateable, and maybe she really doesn’t have any idea what she’s doing. It doesn’t mean she’s being deceptive or someone she actually is not.
I got no problem with people needing help and encouragement to find a partner. I think it’s natural, and if people are stupid enough to fall for Jedi mind tricks, we’ll thats their fault. So dudes just need to respect women more that’s all.
I might be a bit annoyed but I wouldn't let it bother me for that long, and wouldn't change the relationship, as long as she agreed to start being herself.
Its no different from how Steve Harvey did Think Like a Man for women. I wouldn't be offended. Its just tips given to each sex that may or may not work.
I feel like things like that aren't to be looked up at though, I mean, the whole thing about it is generalising an entire gender so much that it turns it into a game, rather than an organic connection. Y'know?
@strawberrylipstick notice in Hitch and Think Like a Man, the tips made them all act nervous but when they saw what was/wasn't working, it made them act as themselves more. It worked out for the most part. Its like how i like corny men. If you tell me a joke to TRY to be corny, it can be a turnoff but the effort makes me like them cause at least i kmow they TRIED to make me Laugh. Then after that they usually become more of themselves and stops being a TRY HARD
To enhance your skill i think it a must sorry to say but women r minpulitive they need that kind of skill to be in control , & if a guy go to a trainer to get u thats means he care about u a lot & if u did respond to those tactics u wouldt even notice him but at the end the secret should not be uncoverd it hurt but its true.
If I couldn't notice that my date was stumbling through our dinner like a poor actor continually checking the script to remember their lines, then I deserve to be hoodwinked by them.
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That would feel as if they presented themselves as someone they’re not just to get me fall for them. That’s even worse than guys acting nice just to sleep with you. Ew.
See that's how I would see it as well
hmm well in my case im a awkward guy, can't dance for shit usually and all in all not a smooth fella😂
so if i go to a "dating coach" who teaches me few dance moves that are easy and make me look better on the dance floor, teaches me proper etiquette and how to act in a fancier restaurant how to best bring my positives on the first date what kind of clothes look best on me etc how is that wrong?
basically no I would not mind (if she is pretending to be something she is not, then that is not good)
Not at all. In fact, I've been in several situations where a group of girls worked to get me together with one of their friends. They totally manipulated the situation to make it happen, but what did it harm? I got to enjoy the social interaction and being the center of attention, which is great when it's positive.
I think dating coaches or PUA are trash. They don’t help yoh with long lasting relationships, only hookups. Of you want something long lasting gontkk on a marriage counselor- they every help couple who aren’t married but are together long term.
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I am so sorry about the misspelled words. I think I need a new phone. Just making the time to get one.
Don't be sorry, I do it all the time myself lol I even sent penis butter instead of peanut butter once 🤦🤦 so you good 🤣
I wouldn't feel anything, I wouldn't care, lots of people utilize it in some capacity whether it's dating coaches, websites like this or just articles they find online.
Not everyone is born with that kind of confidence or social skills necessary sometimes they need a little help. There is nothing wrong with that.
Absolutely. Connection with someone isn't supposed to be a calculated system, it makes the target into a number on a spreadsheet. And then cue the trust issues with people using you, no way.
See, now that's how I'd see it.. So far me and you the only ones that see it that way..
That makes me like 10x more afraid of dating lol... I don't understand the perk behind picking up someone you think is attractive by.. well basically manipulating them into liking you back... It directly turns that person into an object or prey, instead of a person you just genuinely enjoy time with
See EXACTLY!! And I so hear you, dating has become a game... Finding someone has become like ordering take out at a fast food place... Relationships have become a revolving door, first hint of trouble, egg trade em in for a new model or, next... And then you add in the hook up, friends with benefits culture, and yeah... No thanks... Why have stayed single since my hubby passed 7 years ago
Absolutely, it's mental how many people I find just in my DMs using the same things all the time to try and get me interested, let alone the disgusting pictures of things built up for miles. Everyone seems to think they can access anything they want, any person they want, as if they're entitled to someone just because they want them. I've seen it happen to so many of my best mates and they've all come back to me saying it didn't work out.. At this point there isn't any need to wonder why.
And I'm sorry for your partner passing, it makes sense why you'd want to stay away from dating after experiencing that
The first few years it was cuz I wasn't/wouldn't a been ready... Now it's cuz of how F'd up people are these days
I can understand that, takes time to heal
But yeah people are really fucked up more than ever... Plus anything anyone ever wants anymore is sex and that's just not it XD
Right again!!! I mean sex is good and important to be sexually compatible, but they can't be ALL there is, it had to be about more than just that
Exactly, there really has to be more people who think like this or I don't know how we're going to remain sane XD
Well... I never said I was sane 🤪🤪🤪
https://youtu.be/zAlNrtcPCLw
That is legitimately what I had in mind when writing 21st Century Liability XD
I would be impressed by their rational approach to mate selection.
During my 20s and 30s I read a lot of books about psychology and communication. They helped, because I had been really bad with women.
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I won't feel handled but i would feel as if he was being fake just to get to me. I mean go check out relationship memes. That's the real truth
Lol right
I’d rather she just be herself, no matter how “clumsy” she might be, but it would also show she really was putting effort into it and really wanted it.
Yeah but then wouldn't what she does feel contrived, not real? I don't want someone to do something because that's what someone told them would work, I want them to do it because that's how they were feeling or how I made them feel
It’s intent that matters here. She’s trying to make herself dateable, and maybe she really doesn’t have any idea what she’s doing. It doesn’t mean she’s being deceptive or someone she actually is not.
I guess 🤷🏼♀️
I guess you think it’s someone not being herself?
Brains, you need to remember that not every women is as smart and hot as you are.
You can easily attract guys without any effort.
Not something I would care about a lot of learning how to date is seen as taboo if I fell for her then past that we would be good
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I'd find it hilarious and unnecessary. It really doesn't take much to empress me. Just be nice that's more than most people can handle these days.
Right! And sad but true
Yes, the whole point of dating is to learn about the real person not to see how well he's been trained
Right! Well said
I got no problem with people needing help and encouragement to find a partner. I think it’s natural, and if people are stupid enough to fall for Jedi mind tricks, we’ll thats their fault. So dudes just need to respect women more that’s all.
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I might be a bit annoyed but I wouldn't let it bother me for that long, and wouldn't change the relationship, as long as she agreed to start being herself.
Its no different from how Steve Harvey did Think Like a Man for women. I wouldn't be offended. Its just tips given to each sex that may or may not work.
I feel like things like that aren't to be looked up at though, I mean, the whole thing about it is generalising an entire gender so much that it turns it into a game, rather than an organic connection. Y'know?
@strawberrylipstick notice in Hitch and Think Like a Man, the tips made them all act nervous but when they saw what was/wasn't working, it made them act as themselves more. It worked out for the most part. Its like how i like corny men. If you tell me a joke to TRY to be corny, it can be a turnoff but the effort makes me like them cause at least i kmow they TRIED to make me Laugh. Then after that they usually become more of themselves and stops being a TRY HARD
i would simply laugh... Q - Q that would be HELARIOUS... no one gotta work that hard to get me... as long as she have the right traits like @joygirl
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@LEADFOOTboi Hehe 🤗
@Brainsbeforebeauty It is not what you think. 😭
Wow nice question! It never crossed my mind... but now i think about it... i would feel tricked... haha
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To enhance your skill i think it a must sorry to say but women r minpulitive they need that kind of skill to be in control , & if a guy go to a trainer to get u thats means he care about u a lot & if u did respond to those tactics u wouldt even notice him but at the end the secret should not be uncoverd it hurt but its true.
If I couldn't notice that my date was stumbling through our dinner like a poor actor continually checking the script to remember their lines, then I deserve to be hoodwinked by them.
I didn't know a dating coach was a real thing. Seems sad that people need that kind of help.
I agree