So i think these men just want to manipulate them for their youth/looks. Scientificically our brain development - that have a huge impact in our personality- continues till 25. And it is fucking funny how these old bitter think young women would want them. You can look up the statistics for age gap between marriage couple. Age gap of 10 years is very uncommon. No 18-21 woman usually date a man in his 30s. The max age gap is 5. So i dont get where some old men get the illussion that many young woman have no problem with dating them. Usually young women date someone their age. It ain't Hollywood where creepy old men date young women.
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1. As a MGTOW guy, I LOVE Aba and Preach. Few YouTube pairs share that good a dynamic. :D
2. Age gaps vary. Many cases, it's not too far apart, but yes, I've seen quite a few cases of 10-15 years of a gap.
3. Being MGTOW, I kinda get the mindset behind the sorta 30 year old guy you're thinking of. It's not a question of agreeing or disagreeing, it's more so, I've been in enough MGTOW areas of the net to get a good taste of what dudes like that think and how they arrive to those conclusions. It's based on the idea of women being "prime" in her teens through early 20s while men being prime in their late 20s - early thirties. Which to some degrees, has some basis, but people are so varied, it really just depends. Some men and women both hit prime early, some do late.
4. I will say (please don't get mad at this and stomp off as most do when they read this)
that a huge part of the whole incel, MGTOW, red pill, etc guys out there is that many women seem to lack an understanding of true loneliness. It's not usually said so flatly, but this is what many men at least as part of MGTOW (less extreme, more rational of us), think. Girls can get a guy easier than a guy can get a girl. That's just a fact. The chance that a girl has dated or has had some sort of male attention before age 30 vs vice versa is MUCH higher. And the truth of the matter is, girls often simply do not see this or do so much too late.
5. I gotta address the whole awkwardness of the "shit sperm of the disabled" and such. I honestly find that paranoid and more than likely something that may end up tragically ironic if you don't rethink it a bit. Fact of the matter is, any human alive today has almost no likeliness of NOT having some sort of defect, disability, immunity problems, etc. You yourself are the creation of humans going back thousands and thousands of years. What is the likeliness that every single gene passed onto you going back so far is of absolute flawlessness? Truth of the matter is, you more than likely are prone to some sort of mental issue, sickness, etc passed onto you because there are just that many genes involved in your parents, great grandparents, etc that you now have. It may never ever be formally diagnosed, but fact is, billions of things go undiagnosed every day, yet they still exist. Whether some doctor, therapist, etc. presents that to you
doesn't matter. It's nearly impossible to know exactly what exact things you have that make up your body, brain etc. because doing so would likely require massive amount of retracing that of parents and such going back years that most would not bother with. TL;DR The paranoia you have of "shit" or "disabled" sperm makes zero sense, and I can already tell you'll likely end up with exactly that kinda thing/discover YOU have those sorts of genes unaware until it's too late. Unless you rethink a bit, I wouldn't feel sorry, but only for the child who likely will grow up with hell to pay that they didn't deserve.
I also like aba and Preach to some extent. Also the more older a man get, the more lower is the sperm. And to be honest people even abort kids wjen it ain't healthy. People want healthy kids. . Nothing against men. So I just dont understand why white men just dont marry in their early 20s, wait till mid 30s , also make women wait 10000 years to marry but complain that she ain't young anymore. I think the problem is in western world is that men are treated like immature creatures when they are like 18-23 but the western society except from young women to act like a 50 years old wise woman and want them to find a guy at a young age. You would make better healthy choices at older age or it is way more healthy to date someone around your age. My fiance and I are around the sane age rank and so we grow up together and adapt eachother but you can't do that with a man in his 30s. I have no problem with healthy mgtows but many act like male versions of feminazis. At least in my culture both men and women are treated like leftover when they are still not married before 30s.
Wow you are so nice. I also want to know what is so great about getting a date so easy as a girl? Date means nothing, there is a huge chances that many men just want to have sex aka date you. I personally want someone to marry me, not "date". It is actually offensive and insulting to me. So i am more jealous of men who dont have to fear of getting used for sex. I seriously dont understand what is so great about getting sex so easy. If you want sex, you can pay or go to a disco club. So i personally dont understand the great thing about it.
Yeah so I think since western society treat men around 18-23 like kids and so they dont get taken serious, men at that age dont want to marry. In our culture it is very common to marry in your early 20s as a man. I am not saying you should marry in your early 20s, but it is ok if you want to marry in your 20s as a man. You should not be shamed for marrying at that age
I'm not exactly sure what to address first or how... but I'mma try. You are right many MGTOW dudes are the male version of feminazis. No denying that at all. But like the femininazis and their male versions, both are fake and lie that they believe in feminism or MGTOW. Many just use them as labels to build themselves up more, not because they actually know what it's about or truly have it in mind.
Look, I'm not sure when a woman or man's exact "prime" age is, but from what I know, in general, guys are at their "natural prime" when older and women opposite. I say specifically "natural" because it refers to biological/historical means, not nessacerily current ones. For years, women were valued due to beauty/babymaking while men were due to ability to fight/get resources. A women's beauty is often based on the standards males set. (at least they were historically) Meanwhile, a man's abilty to get resources whether hunting, working, etc has its prime as young as the teens and as old as around 30. These are NOT absolute age ranges, but they the stereotypical/historic ones. And it's what many go by and are influenced by even now whether realized or not. Whether it's right wrong is not the point. It's just how it is.
Huh. Me? Nice? Not sure if sarcastic or sincere, but thanks either way as usually on GAG women are yelling the same word with the intention of "FAKE" around it even though evidence of me being 100% nice or not is near impossible to bring up.
Now THIS is the IMPORTANT part I wanted to address. Whether you have guys lined up wanting to bang you, to sincerely/not date and/or marry you... all of that in general is attention from the opposite sex. 80% of girls get it at the very least before age 30. Guys don't usually. 80% of us are not considered cute or pretty or beautiful or whatever into our teens like most girls. Most of us are considered physically not that attractive and are far more likely to be dismissed. In order to make up for it, we have to show some sort of passion, talent, skill, etc especially if it is useful or makes money but that isn't done overnight. Hell, just compare what it takes to dress up/put on makeup vs gaining muscles. The first can be done in a few hours the latter usually takes months if not years. Many girls stress FAR too much about their looks too despite the fact that guys simply aren't that picky. We may act like it at times, but seriously, we aren't when it comes to looks. All a girl really needs is a decent body, even it's a bit overweight and long feminine hair and already, most guys would rate them at least a 6 or more by looks alone. Imagine a slightly overweight guy with masculine hair. What would most girls rate him?
You really seem nice to me. Anyway i personally dont believe that men just only care for weight and a little beauty. As far as i know mgtow guys i have watched on youtube say that women above 30s are not worth anymore. You can look up the comments under my post. How many how them say women above 30 hit the wall and that they are no worth anymore. And are you saying that 80% of men are serious with you? So you can trust majority of men. Oh interesting to know. I dont have much knowledge about all men. So i hope you are right.