What do you think about old bitter men who try to "groom"/train naive very young girls (at the age of 18-21) since women their age can't stand them?

[hi_it_is_me123]

So it is about how some guys trashtalk women above 30s although they are also above 30s and try to get a young woman. women around my age has not much life experience. So it is easier to take advantage of our lack of experience.
So i think these men just want to manipulate them for their youth/looks. Scientificically our brain development - that have a huge impact in our personality- continues till 25. And it is fucking funny how these old bitter think young women would want them. You can look up the statistics for age gap between marriage couple. Age gap of 10 years is very uncommon. No 18-21 woman usually date a man in his 30s. The max age gap is 5. So i dont get where some old men get the illussion that many young woman have no problem with dating them. Usually young women date someone their age. It ain't Hollywood where creepy old men date young women.

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+1 y

Lol funny how old bitter men with their shitty sperm quality shame on women above 30s for their fertility. Women also want healthy kids and not a disabled kid due to male shitty sperm quality. Lol funny how redpill incels think they dont get old and so trashtalk girls above 30s. Young women only want old men for their money to cheat on them with hot young men with old man's money. Stop dreaming about young women, if you are an old man.

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Nothing against old sane men. The sexism and ageism towards women above 30s annoys me. If all young women were infertile, these shallow men still want young women. It is unfair how it it is excepted from women to find someone before her 30s but men can have time to have education, personality development, while women should find someone with not much life experience. This is not only unfair, it is also unrealistic to find a good man with lack of life experience.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

1. As a MGTOW guy, I LOVE Aba and Preach. Few YouTube pairs share that good a dynamic. :D

2. Age gaps vary. Many cases, it's not too far apart, but yes, I've seen quite a few cases of 10-15 years of a gap.

3. Being MGTOW, I kinda get the mindset behind the sorta 30 year old guy you're thinking of. It's not a question of agreeing or disagreeing, it's more so, I've been in enough MGTOW areas of the net to get a good taste of what dudes like that think and how they arrive to those conclusions. It's based on the idea of women being "prime" in her teens through early 20s while men being prime in their late 20s - early thirties. Which to some degrees, has some basis, but people are so varied, it really just depends. Some men and women both hit prime early, some do late.

4. I will say (please don't get mad at this and stomp off as most do when they read this)
that a huge part of the whole incel, MGTOW, red pill, etc guys out there is that many women seem to lack an understanding of true loneliness. It's not usually said so flatly, but this is what many men at least as part of MGTOW (less extreme, more rational of us), think. Girls can get a guy easier than a guy can get a girl. That's just a fact. The chance that a girl has dated or has had some sort of male attention before age 30 vs vice versa is MUCH higher. And the truth of the matter is, girls often simply do not see this or do so much too late.

5. I gotta address the whole awkwardness of the "shit sperm of the disabled" and such. I honestly find that paranoid and more than likely something that may end up tragically ironic if you don't rethink it a bit. Fact of the matter is, any human alive today has almost no likeliness of NOT having some sort of defect, disability, immunity problems, etc. You yourself are the creation of humans going back thousands and thousands of years. What is the likeliness that every single gene passed onto you going back so far is of absolute flawlessness? Truth of the matter is, you more than likely are prone to some sort of mental issue, sickness, etc passed onto you because there are just that many genes involved in your parents, great grandparents, etc that you now have. It may never ever be formally diagnosed, but fact is, billions of things go undiagnosed every day, yet they still exist. Whether some doctor, therapist, etc. presents that to you

[errorgoodnameunfound]

doesn't matter. It's nearly impossible to know exactly what exact things you have that make up your body, brain etc. because doing so would likely require massive amount of retracing that of parents and such going back years that most would not bother with. TL;DR The paranoia you have of "shit" or "disabled" sperm makes zero sense, and I can already tell you'll likely end up with exactly that kinda thing/discover YOU have those sorts of genes unaware until it's too late. Unless you rethink a bit, I wouldn't feel sorry, but only for the child who likely will grow up with hell to pay that they didn't deserve.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I also like aba and Preach to some extent. Also the more older a man get, the more lower is the sperm. And to be honest people even abort kids wjen it ain't healthy. People want healthy kids. . Nothing against men. So I just dont understand why white men just dont marry in their early 20s, wait till mid 30s , also make women wait 10000 years to marry but complain that she ain't young anymore. I think the problem is in western world is that men are treated like immature creatures when they are like 18-23 but the western society except from young women to act like a 50 years old wise woman and want them to find a guy at a young age. You would make better healthy choices at older age or it is way more healthy to date someone around your age. My fiance and I are around the sane age rank and so we grow up together and adapt eachother but you can't do that with a man in his 30s. I have no problem with healthy mgtows but many act like male versions of feminazis. At least in my culture both men and women are treated like leftover when they are still not married before 30s.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Wow you are so nice. I also want to know what is so great about getting a date so easy as a girl? Date means nothing, there is a huge chances that many men just want to have sex aka date you. I personally want someone to marry me, not "date". It is actually offensive and insulting to me. So i am more jealous of men who dont have to fear of getting used for sex. I seriously dont understand what is so great about getting sex so easy. If you want sex, you can pay or go to a disco club. So i personally dont understand the great thing about it.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Yeah so I think since western society treat men around 18-23 like kids and so they dont get taken serious, men at that age dont want to marry. In our culture it is very common to marry in your early 20s as a man. I am not saying you should marry in your early 20s, but it is ok if you want to marry in your 20s as a man. You should not be shamed for marrying at that age

[errorgoodnameunfound]

I'm not exactly sure what to address first or how... but I'mma try. You are right many MGTOW dudes are the male version of feminazis. No denying that at all. But like the femininazis and their male versions, both are fake and lie that they believe in feminism or MGTOW. Many just use them as labels to build themselves up more, not because they actually know what it's about or truly have it in mind.

Look, I'm not sure when a woman or man's exact "prime" age is, but from what I know, in general, guys are at their "natural prime" when older and women opposite. I say specifically "natural" because it refers to biological/historical means, not nessacerily current ones. For years, women were valued due to beauty/babymaking while men were due to ability to fight/get resources. A women's beauty is often based on the standards males set. (at least they were historically) Meanwhile, a man's abilty to get resources whether hunting, working, etc has its prime as young as the teens and as old as around 30. These are NOT absolute age ranges, but they the stereotypical/historic ones. And it's what many go by and are influenced by even now whether realized or not. Whether it's right wrong is not the point. It's just how it is.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Huh. Me? Nice? Not sure if sarcastic or sincere, but thanks either way as usually on GAG women are yelling the same word with the intention of "FAKE" around it even though evidence of me being 100% nice or not is near impossible to bring up.

Now THIS is the IMPORTANT part I wanted to address. Whether you have guys lined up wanting to bang you, to sincerely/not date and/or marry you... all of that in general is attention from the opposite sex. 80% of girls get it at the very least before age 30. Guys don't usually. 80% of us are not considered cute or pretty or beautiful or whatever into our teens like most girls. Most of us are considered physically not that attractive and are far more likely to be dismissed. In order to make up for it, we have to show some sort of passion, talent, skill, etc especially if it is useful or makes money but that isn't done overnight. Hell, just compare what it takes to dress up/put on makeup vs gaining muscles. The first can be done in a few hours the latter usually takes months if not years. Many girls stress FAR too much about their looks too despite the fact that guys simply aren't that picky. We may act like it at times, but seriously, we aren't when it comes to looks. All a girl really needs is a decent body, even it's a bit overweight and long feminine hair and already, most guys would rate them at least a 6 or more by looks alone. Imagine a slightly overweight guy with masculine hair. What would most girls rate him?

[hi_it_is_me123]

You really seem nice to me. Anyway i personally dont believe that men just only care for weight and a little beauty. As far as i know mgtow guys i have watched on youtube say that women above 30s are not worth anymore. You can look up the comments under my post. How many how them say women above 30 hit the wall and that they are no worth anymore. And are you saying that 80% of men are serious with you? So you can trust majority of men. Oh interesting to know. I dont have much knowledge about all men. So i hope you are right.

[hahahmm]

I have nothing against women over 30 and I'm personally not a fan of dating 20s but:

1. Women spend their earlier years having an almost unlimited supply of guys who ARE interested in them and the woman doesn't have to put in that much effort (from the male POV). For a lot of guys it's the reverse. They spend their younger years having to put in tons of effort to get with a woman and a lot of woman look at him like he's not valuable. As he gets older that changes and things flip. Now he feels he has an "unlimited supply" as her eggs dry up and she feels like she has less options. You can't expect guys to feel bad for you if they already went through what you're going through & they had to tough it out.
2. Women have preferences. Men have preferences. Just because you now have more competition than ever before doesn't make it a man's fault. Actually, I know women who get older and complain about not getting attention but they would if they had bothered to develop a good personality that men find attractive instead of being lazy and just depending on their looks for their entire life & bragging about how they don't dress for men and only care about women's opinions. That doesn't work as well once you get out of your 20s. Especially if you want a successful guy because he's the kind of guy who has higher standards than the younger guys.

Calling men names doesn't change any of this.

[hi_it_is_me123]

No you dont get it. I dont give a f if a man want a women above 25 as long as she is not like 18-20. It is just not healthy to date people under 25 if you are like above 30s. The health is more important than preferences. My problem is ageism and sexism towards women above 30s. You dont have to date women above 30+ but the shaming tactis towards women above 30s is so ridiculous. Nobody call mgtow guys mentall ill or shame them for being single. The societal pressure on women when it comes to dating/marriage is extrem unhealthy. Being single at 30 as a women should be normalised, and should not be seen as a disorder. I also rarely see white guys want to marry in their early 20s. Dating/relationship does not mean a thing, when it does not end with marriage.

[hi_it_is_me123]

By the way excepting from Teenager (18-19) aka young adults to find a good guy who have no clue about men is pretty unfair. Women treated like leftovers even after 25 aks after end of her brain development. So i really dont understand the point in comparing men above 30s with young women whose brain is not even fully developed. You can't compare it when men finished their education, have life experience, are more mature while young women usually dont have their shit together. Women also usually dont date 10 years older men anyway.

[hahahmm]

Actually there are people calling guys "incel" all the time if he happens not to back the feminist talking points. As far as comparing 30s men to women 18-19... I was actually thinking of women 18-29 and it's not about fairness. It's just about perspectives. If you tell a 10 year-old that whines and complains about doing home work to tough it out that doesn't mean you're really comparing the 10 year-old to yourself. It means you have a different perspective and you've been where they are too. How many breaks do women need? Are you saying men should just do what women want no matter what... until women feel good and blameless and never have anything to take personal responsibility for?

[aliali8]

@hi_it_is_me123 hun, here's what you need to realize: there are decent and indecent men.

Men who are over the age of 35+, who only will date 18-21 yr olds are not decent men. Decent men are looking for more than just a young, hot body to have sex with. They are looking for an emotional connection. And if you're 40 years old, you're most likely not gonna be able to relate to a 19 yr old teenager. Over 90% of the time, a relationship with an age difference of over 10/11 years , especially if the girl is very young, is usually almost always more about sex than an emotional connection.

If guy is 40+ and still single, chasing after young teenage girls. You need to understand why he is still single at that age. A guy who only values women for their bodies, won't be married for long.

[aliali8]

@hi_it_is_me123

[hi_it_is_me123]

I did not say any of this shit. You dont even read what i wrote. If you are not going to read, then fuck off. I am done with repeating myself. Stop putting words in mouth. I am just saying men should not whine and cry when a woman in her early 20s dont know better than him in his early 20s when it comes to dating/marriage. Funny how the same men usually dont want to marry in his early 20s, call himself immature and say that he was a kid when he was like 18-23 I have seen many men in his 30s sayinc that he was a kid at this 18. Like wtf so women have to be wise and mature like an old woman at 18 but men can be literally childs at this age? Are you stupid? The way you compare is stupid. It is like getting mad at kids for doing bad decisions when they were kids and shame on them when they are finnally mature and can do better decision. You can't fucking compare a 18-23 whose brain development is not even fibished with a fucking grown ass man in his 30s. At 30s you can do way better mature decisions, than at 18-21.
Also preferences are not important than health. I dont give f about your preferences, when it comes to such thing.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@hahammm

[hi_it_is_me123]

@aliali8 oh thank you

[hi_it_is_me123]

@hahahmm i am not going to repeat myself and i am done with this conversation since you put words in mouth

[aliali8]

@hi_it_is_me123 he's just being condescending towards women because he has something against women. Most men in the real world aren't like that. And trust me, he's probably a bitter old guy who has been rejected by women a shit ton during his younger years. Now his looks are gone and now his dating life has become non existent. he's trying to loosen up some bitterness by shitting on older women

[supercutebutt]

My uncle isn't in Hollywood and he snares young women all the time. His last girlfriend was nearly 30 years younger than him, lol. Who gives a rat's ass? I mean what fit, wealthy, 50-year-old man wants a menopausal woman? What if he wants children? 50+ year old women can't have kids. Shouldn't he be able to pass on his genes and wealth to a child?

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am talking about women under 25, not about 30s. You said his girlfriend was 30s. This is not what i mean

[hi_it_is_me123]

Lol Go read what i wrote again please. It is not healthy for very young to date older men. Mental health is more important than some old men preferences for young women. I dont care if a man want women above 25. I am talking about young women who were underage few years ago. You are not suddenly wise and mature when you become 18

[supercutebutt]

30 years younger I said. And it is fine. Who cares?

[aliali8]

If you're gonna go for a man who is 30+ years older, you're just marrying him for money. Because he's not gonna be able to keep up with you physically or sexually.

Do you think a 50 yr old man can fuck like a 30 yr old? NO!
If you're walking with him in the park, you're gonna probably have to slow down so that he can finally catch up to you. If you want to go for a run, he's not gonna be able to do that with you. While you're young vibrant and full of energy, you want to go to visit 3 countries for his year's vacation. Your old husband wants to go on a quiet cruise with his retiree friends 60+.

By the time your kids grow up, he will probably be dead or dying. And do you want a grandpa raising your children? he's not gonna be able to play or keep up with your kids anyways.

You will likely find yourself feeling more like a nanny than a wife by the time you hit 45. He will be a feeble old man who needs his diapers changed while you dream that you can be with a strong, handsome man who can fuck you like no other.

[supercutebutt]

@aliali8 lol. My uncle is fit and has all his hair. People think he is late 20s or early 30s. You know what I mean. You see people like that all the time. And yeah, most likely a young spouse would outlive him but so what? Every old couple I know hates each other. If my uncle lives to 90 and his 60yo spouse is still alive, so what? A woman is basically too old for sex with anyone at that age. And yes, she will have tons of $$$ and she can spoil the grandkids or go on cruises with her book club. :)

[aliali8]

"My uncle is fit and has all his hair. People think he is late 20s or early 30s. You know what I mean."

ohhh... so you're saying that most 50 yr olds can still look 25? haha girl. I don't think so. As you age, typically you become less attractive. You will start finding many of your peers getting married and starting families. So less dating options for you.

"And yeah, most likely a young spouse would outlive him but so what?"

Yea, you're gonna be spending the remaining 30 years of your life dying alone like a lonely spinster. You want to remarry? Who is gonna want to date a 50 yr old widow? Most other 50 yr olds are married or freshly divorced and have no interest in dating.

"Every old couple I know hates each other."

Old couples actually love each other more than younger couples. There is a lot of sentiment to a marriage that has lasted 40-50 years, compared to a marriage that only lasted 10 years. And if they hated each other so much, they would have divorced many many years ago. No need to be stuck in a 50 yr hateful marriage.

" If my uncle lives to 90 and his 60yo spouse is still alive, so what? ""

Well you're gonna be 45 and you won't be fucking anyone. do you really think a 75 yr old is gonna fuck you like a strong young man? you're looking at changing your own father's diapers. Meanwhile i still have a young husband around my age who i can go shopping with, vacation with, run around and laugh in the park with, a man who still has the strength to help me raise my children, a man who can still fuck without his dick being limp within 5 seconds Your old man husband can't do any of this.

[supercutebutt]

@aliali8 Oh I see. You are one of those females who feels empty and worthless without a man. I can't relate to that. :)

[aliali8]

@supercutebutt my life goal is actually to have kids. Marriage is not necessary for me.

[supercutebutt]

@aliali8 That's fine but then why did you type this: "Yea, you're gonna be spending the remaining 30 years of your life dying alone like a lonely spinster." If all you want are kids, then who cares if you die without being married to a dude?

[aliali8]

@supercutebutt Getting married isn't a priority to me. Its been hard for me to feel romantic attraction to anyone. But by the time i hit a certain age, i will get married. Most likely not to someone that i romantically love. I don't need romance in my life. But I do want kids.

But if i were to pick between marrying a 35 yr old man and a 45 yr old man, i will pick the younger one over the older one. For obvious benefits.

[supercutebutt]

@aliali8 There are no "obvious benefits" in a man 10 years younger. It all comes down to character. You would pick a young, dirty jerk over a distinguished gentleman? No wonder America is crumbling.

[aliali8]

@supercutebutt I never said I will marry a young jerk. there are tons of young guys around, i can't pick a nice handsome young man. I'm not interested in spending the remaining 30 years of my life dying alone too. I like to have someone to take care of me. I'm not attracted to daddies or grandpas too. I don't tend to get along best with them either. I tend to have most fun with people around my own age. Really, im not looking to date my dad's best friend who is thinking of retirement in a few years. I am only 25

[aliali8]

@supercutebutt type error:

I never said I will marry a young jerk. there are tons of young guys around, i can't pick a nice handsome young man?*****

[supercutebutt]

@aliali8 Your responses lack logic and consistency. I predict you will end up marrying an elderly gentleman. :)

[aliali8]

@supercutebutt Prove how im inconsistent.

[aliali8]

@supercutebutt For you, your dating scene is the elderly home or the retirees club or parent teacher conference filled with divorced 50 yr old guys with their kids. You have an old man fetish. Wrinkles, white hair, sagginess, weight gain turns you on.

[undercover4ever]

I think it's bad to take advantage of people this way

[OlderAndWiser]

Your question asks about old bitter men but your post gives me the impression that you feel quite bitter. Have you been the victim of a manipulative older man?

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am sorry. I should not ask it like this. You are right. I just dont think it is healthy to date an old man when you are very young.

[OlderAndWiser]

Ultimately, you are right. There is great potential for the older person to take advantage of the younger person, and very little chance that true love will blossom.

[Avicenna]

A good person wouldn't take advantage of another

[OlderAndWiser]

@Avicenna Agree, but if a much older guy is looking for a much younger female to "groom," then there is a greater potential for abuse.

However, it also appears that this user is engaged in massive hyperbole is describing this situation.

[Avicenna]

It's funny, but the much older guy's friends and relatives are usually concerned that she's taking advantage of him!

[Phoenix98]

First I wanna state I have nothing against older women or women in their 30s or anything like that

But at the same time to be fair if your a man who wants to have a family it's kind of hard and dangerous to do that with an older women who's in her mid to late 30s or above.

It's a fact that after the age of 30 getting pregnant and then childbirth itself becomes increasingly more dangerous and difficult for a woman and can lead to the loss of a child, the mother or both (the birthing part ). And that risk only increases as she gets older.

I also wanna state that I'm not interested in really young girls either I prefer someone between 24-28 so around my age group.

But for someone like me who wants a kids and a family that's kind of hard to do with an older woman who will have trouble conceiving and even birthing a kid especially as she gets older. So a younger woman is ideal for my goals and even then I don't want someone who's so young they're barely an adult.

I think that's a fair opinion and I don't think I'm being unreasonable with my thinking on the subject.

[aliali8]

Overwhelming majority of people start families after the age of 30. Nobody has kids in their 20s anymore. Its 2021, not 1950.

[888theGreat]

@aliali8 That is what they like about me , 1950's romantic. She will say take me 888son

[aliali8]

@888theGreat Most women would not appreciate you rushing them to abandon their studies and careers so they can pop out kids by the age of 25. Most women nowadays are educated , hardworking ladies with careers. They have no interest in having kids so early in life.

[aliali8]

@888theGreat women in their early 20s typically have no interest in getting married too. Most of them like their freedom before getting tied down

[Phoenix98]

@aliali8 Not around here they don't, nobody, no women I know started families in their 30s.

Also tons of people start families in their 20s and that has nothing to do with the year, that's an argument someone with no argument digs up.

And FYI virtually everyone I went to school with started families in their mid to late 20s. That's the best and easiest time to have kids.

Have a nice day.

[aliali8]

@Phoenix98 You probably come from the midwest , small country town, very Christian , fully white community. Thats the only place i can imagine where people getting married in their mid 20s. But in modern cities throughout the US, having kids in 30s is the norm.

[007kingifrit]

no that's an urban legend based on 400 year old studies from france, a woman can get pregnant in her 30s just as in her 20s. there is no medical difference. even her 40s are fine

[Phoenix98]

@007kingifrit I never said they couldn't I said it gets increasingly more difficult and more dangerous as they get older which is true. Also their ability to get pregnant starts to decline around age 30. By age 45 it's pretty much impossible for them to get pregnant naturally that's according to what modern doctors.

And I lost two siblings in the womb due to complications brought about because of a age.

[aliali8]

@Phoenix98 My mother birthed me when she was 37 and my brother at 40. So for you to say that women in their 30s cannot give birth, it just comes to show that women have no value to you other than for reproductive purposes.

Nowadays, Most women birth in their 30s after they get their education, become financially stable, arrive at a mature stage in life where they know what to look for in a man. These are also the same reasons why divorce rates have been declining over the past few years. All these factors lowers risk of divorce.

[aliali8]

@Phoenix98 I'm not saying women should wait till their late 30s to give birth. But to say that you're not gonna marry a woman who is turning 30 years old this year, it really makes you quite shallow. Most of my cousins , including my siblings, have been birthed by women in their early 30s. And none of us are fucked up or disabled. And honestly, its a slap in the face to my own mother who birthed me in her 30s. If she didn't give birth to me, i wouldn't have existed.

[aliali8]

@Phoenix98 Its true that risk of birth complications increases for older mothers. This includes fathers too. But there are also many women in their 30s who have successfully birthed perfectly healthy children. Everyone in my family were birthed by 30 something yr old women. I had a few teachers who gave birth to very successful children. Even Michelle obama gave birth when she was in her 30s, take a look at her kids.

[Avicenna]

So guys in their 30s are old and bitter? That's a strange claim.
So if women that age never date older guys, why are these guys trying to get women that age to date them? Seems to me that they'd know better if that were the case.

[hi_it_is_me123]

No. Only men who are ageist towards women above 30 are bitter

[Avicenna]

OK, I see what you’re saying.

[Anonymous]

I don't want to date a woman my age because of previously the experience part. I'm in my late 20s and I have no dating experience. It makes no sense for me to be with a woman my own age when I am on the same level as a 18 year old, if even that.

As for the sperm part, you can freeze it.

As for the cheating part, woman of all ages cheat. Its a personality flaw more than anything and once a cheater, always a cheater. Why would a young guy want to be with a woman who used to whore/golddigg herself out for an old man and then cheat on him?

[Opinion Owner]

*precisely

[hi_it_is_me123]

You are biologically and mentally not on the same maturity level as a 18. Your maturity has nothing to do with your dating life, you fool. How old are you? Just admit, you want to groom young girls

[hi_it_is_me123]

Your question is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the topic

[hi_it_is_me123]

Divorce rate is higher for people with huge age gap, it is extremely unhealthy for a old guys to date an teenager due to different power dynamics. Young women tend to cheat more probably because of immaturity

[hi_it_is_me123]

Why tf you are replying to 3 month old ques

[Opinion Owner]

Level as in dating experience. I couldn't care less about maturity levels. I'd rather date an inexperienced girl who has never had a boyfriend than a very mature one who's been in a relationship before.

Honestly, you sound quite bitter yourself. Do you think telling men that younger girls are not interested in them will actually stop men from pursuing? If anything you're just motivating them.

[hi_it_is_me123]

question **

[hi_it_is_me123]

Look, idiot it is just disgusting how old used cunts like you wanna groom young girls. You want naive stupid girls because they are easier to manipulate

[Opinion Owner]

It just popped up, I like to read these kind of posts for motivation.

[hi_it_is_me123]

You are right if i tell a rapist to not rape, he would not listen to me. So i think state should lock your groomers up l

[hi_it_is_me123]

How young you want?

[Opinion Owner]

I will date a girl my age if I find one who's never been in a relationship before, so chill. I don't discriminate based on age, just based on dating experience, can't have more than me.

[Opinion Owner]

Good luck trying to get a guy locked up for dating a legal aged girl.

I don't actually care about age. I just don't expect to find a girl my age who has zero dating experience, which is why I aim for younger.

[hi_it_is_me123]

There is a difference between prefering a virgin and a young women. Young people cannot be mature as you due to brain development and lack of adult life experience. It is just unhealthy and it is more likely that there will be caused power dynamics

[hi_it_is_me123]

Being legal dont mean shit. In japan you can fuck legally 13 years old girls

[hi_it_is_me123]

It is just unethical

[hi_it_is_me123]

Just stay away from teenager. You can go for virgins or christian girls who tend to be virgins

[hi_it_is_me123]

How old are you

[Opinion Owner]

I care about her being a virgin. This means my dating pool will mostly consist of teenage girls. I couldn't care less about power dynamics. I'm not going to change up my standards just to satisfy some feminist ideals.

[hi_it_is_me123]

It has nothing to with feminism. Grooming is disgusting. Just go to fucking church, if you want virgins snd stay away from teenies

[Opinion Owner]

I would be trading away dating experience compatibility with religious incompatibility so no, that's not gonna happen.
She has to be a virgin, as fit as me and share my values. Nothing unreasonable there.
I wonder how many guys actually change their standards just to please a bunch of feminists like you.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Me being feminist does not matter. Stop changing the topic. I dont want you to groom and abuse young girls. Stay away from teenagers. It is fucking disgusting and it shows you pedophilic tendencies. Being against grooming has nothing to do with feminism. I dont expect from rapists, abusers, groomers etc. change theirso called standards which is pedophilic to extent to please any feminist

[hi_it_is_me123]

Are you virgin too?

[hi_it_is_me123]

Anyway women in general date/marry someone who is max 2-5 years older. You will get girls with mental issues aka daddy issues

[Opinion Owner]

Well I mean you can think whatever you want. A 18 year old is an adult. Their brain is developed enough to vote so they're develop enough to choose who they date. If you have a problem with it, I suggest you become a politician and try to raise the age of consent or something.
Cause your words mean anything. I'm sure you do plenty of things someone else might find disgusting and unethical , you're gonna stop just because of that. Nobody thinks like that.

[zagor]

LOL I know a number of young women who date older men. My friend hooked up with a 60 year old when she was 21.

If you're just fucking and not in a LTR, WTF is the difference? It's not like you need to take care of them in their old age if they're going to be gone tomorrow, or next month.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Agree. Fucking and relationship is not the same

[aliali8]

you think its very common for 18 yr olds to be having 65 yr old boyfriends? hahahah
ohhh men like you dream way too much

[zagor]

@aliali8 "Very common", no. Very unusual, also no, at least at a narrower range than the extreme example you used.

[aliali8]

On this website 45 yr old men say it’s very common for them to date 18 yr old girls straight out of high school too. They even say they look better at 59 than at 29.

[bamesjond0069]

I mean im 34 and brought home a 20 year old last night she's still asleep right next to me. My good friend is 38 and his girlfriend is 23. Meanwhile a 34 year old gave me here number the other day and i didn't even bother to text her. I mean i can do better so i will.

[aliali8]

you're gonna hit your wall soon by the time you lose your hair and skin gets wrinkly by 40

[bamesjond0069]

@aliali8 doubt it. Especially since im getting richer faster than my looks might be fading. Although i already have some grays and girls fucking love it so i think im getting hotter. Plus i dont got that wrinkly genetics. My dads in his 60s and not very wrinkled at all.

[aliali8]

I'm just gonna tell you that nobody is gonna wanna a relationship with you once you lose your looks. You will only have a a pile of prostitutes chasing you.

[bamesjond0069]

@aliali8 well im an athlete so they aren't anywhere near gone yet.

[aliali8]

Doesn't matter if you're an athlete. Wrinkles, sagginess, erectile dysfunction will all come with age naturally. One day you will realize your dick can't fuck too. Now you can't even use all these prostitutes you bought for the night.

[bamesjond0069]

@aliali8 lmfao 🤣 you must be like 14 or something.

[aliali8]

@bamesjond0069 I'm just saying the truth. Don't be offended.

[bamesjond0069]

@aliali8 why would i be offended about something thats not true? Yeah so what about a few wrinkles? I have muscles and a six pack. That doesn't go away till you're like 80 smh. And usually only obese men have dick problems.

[aliali8]

@bamesjond0069 Not according to doctors and research.

[bamesjond0069]

@aliali8 well actually yes according to doctors and research. Its a blood pressure issue. Most blood pressure issues are from obesity or heart disease which is often from obesity.

[aliali8]

People look old and shitty regardless if they have blood pressure issues.

[bamesjond0069]

@aliali8 i mean except athletes and very attractive men. Brad pitt is old as shit, didn't you see him in once upon a time movie? But he's fit and a generally attractive man and has done things in his life successfully instead of wasting his time being a loser. He could get a young girl no problem.

[aliali8]

Brad pitt look like shit right now compared to 10 years ago. Channing tatum was also hot as hell 10 years ago. Now he just looks like any other guy on earth. Nothing special.

[bamesjond0069]

@aliali8 hmm well many girls disagree with you. y'all as a whole decide on standards. You dont.

[aliali8]

@bamesjond0069 Well many girls will disagree with you too. Most young girls are attracted to young, strong, handsome young men. Not some old uncle with white hair or grandpa.

[hasdrubal164]

i feel like the girl wants little bit too aswell. its not only the guy disiring her but the girl aswell sometimes?

[HikerDude]

If you can get pussy from a girl, it's yours for the taking. The only restriction is age of consent and her discretion.

[007kingifrit]

this is such a bitter misguided post. a man being over 30 increases his dating market value, a woman above 30 loses dating market value

this is because men and women... want different things. they aren't equal

[hi_it_is_me123]

This is bullshit. You dont understand my point. So you seem to me pathetic.. Read what i wrote. I also think it is shallow to reduce woman's value only on her beauty and youth, and not on her education, personality and work. And i dont care if you prefere young women but it is not healthy when the age gap is high and so health is mpre preferences

[hi_it_is_me123]

So health is more important **
You guys misunderstand me. I critizise the ageism and sexism towards women above 30+. So i actually dont care about your preferences as a man

[007kingifrit]

it doesn't matter what you think it shallow. you're not a man. the #1 rule in dating is to accept the other side for what they are. you're clearly too immature and idealistic to do that

men are more visual creatures than women

[hi_it_is_me123]

You are the immature pathetic one, who dont read and dont understand it. So stfu, if you have nothing to say. And men are not more visual. Even mgtow guys think women care more about looks. I am just saying that your preferences are disgusting when it comes to health of young women. Just watch the video. Then you will get my point. I just think it is disgusting the way some men think about young women and their bitterness towards women above 30s

[hi_it_is_me123]

Judt watch the video. You can't justify the hate towards women due to her age.

[hi_it_is_me123]

You can want what you want but do it without being an asshole towards people who dont fit your preferences. I also dont call short men manlets just because i like tall men

[hi_it_is_me123]

You are nothing but a fucking old pedo ass, who think young women want his disgusting ass.

[sidhutv]

You are just being talking unnecessary feminism here no one is kid 21 is a bigger age and they can say no to old ones everyone are doing it with like and being known so stop crying on men and find a way to educate women

[hi_it_is_me123]

I dont call 21 years old kids. Read my what i wrote and the update. You sound pathetic

[sidhutv]

Lol I didn’t complained on whole gender my dear to be called pathetic I think you are fixed in your world of opinions

[hi_it_is_me123]

I also did not complain about the whole gender wtf. Read my update. You misunderstand me

[RolandCuthbert]

Haha!!!

Good luck with this thread.

[hi_it_is_me123]

What do you mean? I dont have anything against old men. I even respect old men who does not think like that. Yeah maybe i was too harsh and i should not be like this but my point is clear. I actually do agree with some of your views.

[RolandCuthbert]

Well, when the vitriol hits you, you can come back to me.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Wtf. You are pathetic? Maybe i am mistaking witt the another male gag around age with a similar age. Would you be ok if a man your age date your daughter?

[hi_it_is_me123]

Stop trolling give proper answers

[hi_it_is_me123]

Also read my updates and description too

[hi_it_is_me123]

If you continue with your rant, i have to remove your post. I admit i should not make such a provocative and rude question but can get my point

[RolandCuthbert]

You have no idea what I meant and you assumed the worse. I can't even respond to you at this point. Post something intelligible and perhaps we can talk.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am done with repeating myself. You can get my point if you read the description and so on. It is not healthy for a young woman to be with an old man. What dont you understand

[hi_it_is_me123]

Ohhhh sorrry i misunderstand you

[hi_it_is_me123]

Fuck i am sorry

[RolandCuthbert]

I read it. And I wished you good luck.

Then you took a shit over what I posted.

So think about that. I looked at what you posted. I agreed with it and wished you good luck.

Now look at your response.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am really sorry. It is night here, and i am really tired. I did not get your point in the first place. I am really sorry. Omg i am so stupid

[hi_it_is_me123]

again am really sorry.

[RolandCuthbert]

haha!!!

It is okay. I have done the same thing.

Good luck with this thread. There are so many immature incel trolls here.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Sorry again. It is just that i get attackef by so many anon users so that i thought you were sarcastic. Many anon users insult/attacke me or make sarcastic offensive posts out of nowhere which confused to the point i get paranoid and misunderstand people's posts under my question. Omg i am really sorry. I try to be more calm and be more careful

[hi_it_is_me123]

confused me**

[Wowboi]

I agree mature men shouldn't date teen agers. They're still childish and have nothing to offer but a womanly body but no brain.

[aliali8]

Some men don’t care about emotional attraction, they just care about the sexual attraction

[888theGreat]

All i know is that Asian women 19 years old want me to marry them. So, many women like older guys. Sorry , you had a crush on a 31 year old guy and he went for someone else. You sound bitter to me.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Lol you are ridiculous. I have fiance. I am not into very old men. Read my update. I did not mean to generalize

[aliali8]

If you have money you can buy her as a wife. She marry you for money. Then 5 years later, she cheat on you with a hot handsome stud.

[888theGreat]

@aliali8 I am a lot better looking in person and I can go like a rabbit many times. I also like to massage , so I would be ok.

[aliali8]

what i mentioned in my prior comment was actually a true story. Gold diggers tend to cheat on their husbands. Their husbands also tend to cheat too. there's really nothing real about such marriages.

[888theGreat]

@aliali8 You would want me in person, it would be me that said no. I am like a cuddle bear.

[aliali8]

No i actually want a real marriage, someone young strong and handsome. Someone that I can grow old with.

[Anonymous]

Who wants a dried up old hag? I only date women under 35. Haven't had any trouble finding ones who are interested in dating me.

[aliali8]

because they aren't physically attracted to old men.

[hi_it_is_me123]

And who want to date a dried up old hag like you?

[aliali8]

you're wayyy older than me. Most guys your age look like shit.

[recvcv]

i feel like men can't stand women thats why many men go for the younger ones

[pizzalovershouse]

Maybe they can't get girls there own agd cuz their trying to still just hit it an move on

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I think nothing. Just ignore them and focus on something more important.

[AliceTheNguyener]

You have some of the smartest responses on this site. Props to you!

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@AliceTheNguyener: Thanks hon. It's just common sense. We have limited energy so why try to waste it on some fools or stupidity when you can find a good show to watch or do something fun to enjoy yourself?

[Anonymous]

are these men claiming that women hit the wall after a certain age?

[iseekpinetrees]

I've never come across a guy like this

[GAGSucksBalls1]

what do you think about vice versa

[COMMODOREII]

Age gap of 10+ years is very common.

[aliali8]

actually its not.

[aliali8]

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conway-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

[COMMODOREII]

@aliali8 this report sites 14 different articles stating it is only treated as uncommon by outside societal influence. The couples themselves have no issue with it.
docs.lib.purdue.edu/.../viewcontent.cgi

[aliali8]

@COMMODOREII Most people will have an issue with it. Because young folks are typically not attracted to old folks. Just the same way you are not attracted to old folks. Its just that there are always weird types (which are uncommon) where there are youngsters who are attracted to white hairs, wrinkles, weight gain and the old face. For these weirdos, they have no problem with it.

But typically a man your age is only after young women for sex. You wouldn't be able to relate to the typical 25 yr old in any way shape or form. Unless you like to play daddy

[COMMODOREII]

@aliali8 your biased in your information.

[aliali8]

Well statistics have proven most age gaps are 3.5 years apart, not 35 years apart. So sorry if you're offended by that

[COMMODOREII]

@aliali8 im not offended. Your information is flawed. Plus your statistics are based on a select few people.

[aliali8]

I dont think so. Over 90% of all couples around me and the ones that I have seen in the media are usually less than a 10 years apart. I think you're biased.

[Unconcernedman]

age is not maturity factor just number

[EyebrowChewie]

This is bull.

[Anonymous]

Go Fuck Yourself!!!

[hi_it_is_me123]

Go fuck yourself. Lol trigered old used bitter sack. If you make another bullshit reply, i will delete you

[888theGreat]

She would be in front of me on her knees with mouth open in about 5 minutes.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Abd you will tied up on the bed with a strab on dildo in your ass

[Opinion Owner]

go ahead fucking delete me cunt

[Opinion Owner]

open the hole between your legs and make yourself useful. the very 1 thing you were built for start doing

[Opinion Owner]

@hi_it_is_me123 open the hole between your legs and make yourself useful. the very 1 thing you were built for start doing

[Opinion Owner]

@hi_it_is_me123 go ahead fucking delete me cunt

[hi_it_is_me123]

You piece of shit, useless worthless cunt. Stop repeating yourself you fugly stupid fucktard. Go open your mouth, so gay man can destroy you, you used up toyboy fucktard. You have no worth. You are just a fag cunt for gay men, Fuck off from here, you fag. Who are you, piece of shit. You are just an anon coward, and nothing more. Fag. Are you that triggered by me, you whore? Why are you spamming me you old fucktard. We should tie you up , and torture you with a strab on dildo. I have many gay black friends, they would like to destroy your little asshole, you cunt. Wtf are you on, you mentall ill Bastard. Go kill yourself, stupid fugly old dumb asshole. Just tell me who tf you are, you retarted moron. What tf is your problem, moron. Go spam someoneelse, retarted piece of shit

[hi_it_is_me123]

You are so funny. i am just laughing at your rant.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Tell me who you are