Some guys will... some won't. Some guys are so bold they'll ask her out no matter what. She could be a total stranger he sees for 5 minutes out in public.
Some will ask her out if he has an opportunity to meet her and be around her and then follow up with his request but if the opportunity isn't there, they have no real reason to meet unless he boldly approaches her in a crowd. Some won't be that direct and bold.
Some may have interest but try to feel a girl out some... see if she seems to be friendly, open to him, maybe seem to like him a bit. If they get no positive feedback or she really doesn't seem to act as if he exists... vs. friendly and engaging and acting happy to see him and talk whenever he may speak to her. Some may back down and not proceed if they never get any "encouragement" from her by how she acts around him.
Some are shy and may have crushes but rarely act on it because of awkwardness, social anxiety, fear of rejection.
So... is it as simple as... he is interested... he asks her out. It depends with each guy and what the situation is... how hard and how many obstacles he has to go through to meet her and be in a situation where he has her attention and the chance to talk with her one on one.
A lot of times a guy is afraid of rejection, or has been hurt in some way in their past. So, when it comes to asking a girl out on a date; they have a lot of trouble getting the words out. If the girl ask him to go out, they are more likely to say yes, and later build up the courage (now that they know they are liked) to go further, and start asking simple request.
Ladies, if you know a guy likes you, start dropping hints to them that you are into them, if you do it right, they will obtain the courage to ask you out on a date.
Maybe I might have agreed with that a decade or so ago probably but these days men could get slapped with restraining orders and false rape accusations for even looking at a girl. Iām not saying all women are bitches like that because not all of us are, but we could stand to throw the guy a bone every now and then if weāre interested. Itās 2021, approaching doesnāt happen to be a manās job anymore
A guy once told me that he liked me but he was afraid to ask me out one because i have a resting bitch face and i always look serious and two he thought i was out of his league
Some guys have overwhelming shyness and insecurity that virtually paralyzes them from implementing any plan for dating. I don't know what becomes of such guys but I thank God that I am not one of them!
You must be kidding. Men would once start chatting you up, learn what kind of woman you were and if they found you interesting they'd ask you out, more or less awkwardly depending on the man's character. Today you have people asking the stupidest of questions about how to date, and way too many are so incredibly pussy that you girls would be the ones with balls in the couple.
Sad situation, but just as much as there's not much wife material in the new generations, husband material is probably even harder to come by.
Well, other then them being afraid to (which in this day and age where women have argued that a man saying hi to them is equivalent to sexual harasment (yes, that is something women have stated)), they could presume she is not interested because of something she has said. A girl says she wants a guy who is X and your not X, then your going to presume she isn't interested and move on. Or you could be feeling things out and just seeing if she is interested or not, looking for more signs other then her existing (in many cases the only sign women like to give guys of their interest in them). Or he could realize that while he liked her it probably wouldn't work out and that could be a reason. Or he could simply presume that she was already in a relationship and thus doesn't try. Their are plenty of reasons as to why.
False. I'm in a stage where, while I'd like a relationship, and know many women I'd love to ask out, even having had one other men find good look, and seems to be a nice person, ask for my phone number, I distanced myself, because I'm working on myself, my situation, and a relationship would eat up time, while I don't feel mature enough as a person, yet, to meet criteria I set for myself to be the best partner I can...
Call it patience, discipline, sacrifice - preparation - I don't view relationships as a game to be jumped into, but taken as serious as I'll ever take anything, assuming I'm going for a lifelong commitment.
False, some dudes aren't confident you will say yes. And the more out of their league you seem, the less likely they are to ask. Or it can be situation dependent. If you are with friends, guys will typically leave you alone. The group scares men off. We sense you are with the group because you don't want to be bothered. So, yeah if you are interested in a man, you have to at least make yourself available to him to ask you and demonstrate an interest yourself. Or you can ask. A lot of guys are shy. And though we are used to getting rejected, we don't like it hence we don't put ourselves in those situations unless we feel confident there is a chance with you.
@Jamie05rhs Or you just happened to catch them in a man-bashing mood. And when women are together, you can bet some poor dude is getting destroyed in the conversation.
@Floppy2112 Then I don't want to date any of them. Because if those are her friends, then divorce is guaranteed. I won't marry a woman who surrounds herself with toxic people.
Sometimes, I really like one, and I kind of smile, chat, maybe tease, and suggest things, but I DON'T ASK HER OUT! I want an EQUAL, and I want her to ACT LIKE HE EQUAL! She claims she wants to be! She can ask me out, or not, and if she doesn't, she isn't who I thought she was! I don't have time to play around with submissive little Barbie types, that want to be taken care of, and be some "trophy" kind of thing! FCK that!
Chicken? The worst she can say is no... she says ew... whoās the chicken the men that donāt or the women that donāt? Besides... just saying a man assaulted you costs him dearly true or otherwise. Only a dumb or desperate man would put himself out there without prior assurances.
Sometimes you might have her mate or one of your mates.
Itās really a bit pointless being interested in girls, if you donāt somehow ask them out.
You both may just skip the date and get down with it.
Sometimes the girl gets their first, she knows heās going to ask but heās taking to long and she just says fuck it and asks him or rather tells him.
False, shy guys exist you know :D But other than that, who knows, maybe he has seen her w another guy and he thinks she has a boyfriend, maybe he is having some private problems or smth, and he is worrying too much cuz of those, so he decides to not ask her out yet.
I'm about as outgoing as you can be, I could sell snow to an Eskimo. I always HATED the absurd and reduculous double standard that says men must do X , I was looking for a partner, not a sex doll. If your to insecure to ask a guy out , or at least clearly indicate that you like him. You're stuck in the last century and deserve to be alone.
After a while I realized I could avoid women who thought like that by simply not asking them out.
I love how you say " besides being chicken". As though it's just that simple. I'M A BIG CHICKEN. And I've asked many women out in my lifetime. Being a chicken rarely stops a guy. Unclear signals do a lot of times though. A lot of women are hot, cold, hot, cold. And some of you wonder why you get hit on by creeps. Because those guys will hit on at any woman at any time.
I'd jump out of a plane before I'd talk to some girls. Some women we put on such high pedestals in our mind that the thought of even talking to her and being rejected... at least jumping out of a plane we have a reserve parachute... it's more than we can handle. Being rejected by this goddess (that we've created in our minds) would be too much to bare.
This is completely true and completely false. A number of men suffer from that fear of rejection, the same as you women do. Let alone, not giving it a shot is all enough reason to see it as untrue. Vice versa for a man who makes the move. Normally the man that's afraid tends to have needy habits that is likely to turn women off
You have to take into account social disorders; social anxiety, self esteem issues, body dysmorphia.. current events.. timing, gossip which can mislead, misinformation, parental restrictions, life restrictions (i. e. maybe they have someone at home theyāre taking care of or some other burden)
it's not true 100% of the time. i would say most guys actually don't ask out the majority of girls they're sort of interested in, for the simple reason that they don't think they have a chance with her.
I don't ask because 1. feminism ruined that and now even so much as showing interest by asking out a person once results in "he's harrasing me" legal garbage.
2. I prefer the types of women who ask guys out, 9 times out of 10 they are more interesting.
3. Most of the attractive women I see I don't know well enough to ask out (or at all for that matter), and I only would ask out a female best friend after knowing her for a few years, but she usually beats me to it.
@TheSpaceGnome the first one you should ignore. feminism is bullshit and the media shows you a tiny fraction of deviants as if they were the majority group. if she's being an insufferable feminist bitch, that's your cue to get the heck away :D
i know i sound like some douchebag but i'm actually a social scientist and i know that the vast marjority of feminist claims is ideologic nonsense with no foot on any evidence based science. i am for fairness and equality for all humans. though feminism is opposite to that.
2. everyone prefers those. maybe adjust your standards a bit or just try it anyway. you have nothing to lose :D even a rejection is nothing but gained experience.
3. yeah i get that. it's purely a matter of doing what you don't like. it'll only be hard at first. it's important that you see an approach you did as a success cause you approached a girl. not as a failure cause she rejected you. that way you keep yourself motivated and you can more easily progress.
The funny part is rejection is the only part I'm not worried about, because I don't have insecurity issues.
If I didn't have to deal with the problems I mentioned, then I would see fit to systematically ask every pretty girl I saw out (provided I didn't already know she was taken), because it would expedite finding the type I like 1 million fold.
But we live in a world where people aren't logical enough to just fill out a note card with a list of requirements on it, and just put check marks for yes and Xs for no on each thing, and either match with the same answers, or move on.
I feel like that would be so much faster, but everyone's gotta be all slow and romantic and take fucking forever with stupid courtship ritual bs like "dinner" or "coffee" or "netflix and chill" or some other bs that offers zero relevant data on compatibility, and then when you try to pry into their mind with valid questions, they lie! or they say "thats too private", just UGH! >_>
So I'm stuck having to only date existing female friends to find out any legit shit about them.
I want to know pretty much everything important about them in like the first hour, there are WAY too many people out there to be "dating" in the classical sense, wtf ever happened to speed dating?
Also, out of that first hour, the first 5 minutes should be 90% of the important stuff (filling out the card itself), and the rest of the hour only happens if the card results were a match and you want to learn more about them.
@TheSpaceGnome well you know your customer. that's great. you can sift out people way more efficiently that way. if you notice a person is being like that, you can just instantly move on. that's grat in my book.
Most of the time women repspond is to tell you how they feel about your list of requirements being too long because they can't just spit it out that they are offended/dissapointed they don't match with you and move on, the entitled female tendancy to drag it on and on and on and be controlling and a waste of time is just the worst.
@TheSpaceGnome yeah i know. it's not only women. people are full of fuzzy illusion and unaware of so many real and factual things. it's hard to find people who aren't that deluded to begin with.
oh I know, and its not all women (which is why i said entitled as a prefix), but I'm not gay or bi so I don't have to put up with the guys who do that lol.
I figured out how to reverse several diseases, and how to stop aging in my own body. I learn talent based skills easily, and am spock level logical while still retaining strong emotions.
@TheSpaceGnome yeah i know what you mean. i kind of feel helpless at times, when i'm sitting at the surgeons office, having to explain to him how i want him to do surgery on me, cause he's not educated on how those things are done properly... if you trust people to be experts in something, there's in my experience a 80% chance you're let down and you'd have done it better using 10 minutes of google yourself.
I'm also usually able to think clearly while in severe pain or exausted or going through a life crisis or emergency, so I can't relate to panic nearly as much as most people.
no psychopathy is being sadistic, and sociopathy is being emotionless, I don't have either of those problems, I'm just high functioning so it takes more to get me to that point of breaking down than most.
@TheSpaceGnome yeah that's the more common use of the word. i'm not referring to the mental disease tho. i mean the ability to disconnect from your own emotions or physical feelings in order to fix an issue. many people automatically go into that state when they're in an emergency. some people an use it more controlled. actually psychotherapists use it a lot to help people, cause the own emotions can be in the way of finding solutions for a client.
Ah, i see, I don't disconnected though, i can be crying my eyes out, feel like i'm being stabbed, be so mad I want to scream, and still think clearly. basically i can be logically useful while being an emotional wreck.
it's sort of similar in meaning to dissociation. many things in psychology are double edged swords like this. they can help you a lot but they can also harm you. using them consciously can solve problems extremely efficiently. i mean a clinical psychopath "can" not consider the emotions of others, cause they have no sense of empathy and or remorse. the psychopathy i'm talking about is "the ability of doing that consciously to fix an issue".
that's what i mean. you are able to feel those things (unlike a clinical psychopath) but you are able to choose not to react to them or disregard them if that is needed. so you're using psychopathy as a mechanism when it is helpful. that's not inherently a bad thing.
I usually have much larger amounts of sympathy than empathy.
I understand how i react emotionallly just fine, but most people become broken when emotional wrecks, so it's not a lack of caring, more a series of confusion as to how to help outside just fixing the emergency itself. I'm very much a "fixer" not a person who dwells on feelings. I attack the root of what impacted them, not tend to how it impacted them.
for example, if your kid was being attacked by an animal, i'd tend to removing the situation by getting them away from eachother, and if i were a medic, i'd fix/set the injuries, if animal control? i'd prevent them by trapping the animal, i wouldn't be the person consoling the parent.
@TheSpaceGnome yeah well empathy is also a feeling that needs lots of intelligence. i also think i'm quite sympathic but that doesn't help most of the time, cause if you understand the issues with someones behavior and where those issues come from, you can't really do that to fix a problem xD you kind of have to deal with them being like that either way. it's an annoyance, cause typically you can't make them see, cause they aren't on a level to see that.
yeah see thats the problem, you can have comprehension skills, but if the intel to a way of thinking is locked behind being illogical, no amount of comprehension will put 2 and 2 together.
But he may have to work at it a few times to actually get the wording and timing right. Not all guys can just jump up and straight out ask a girl out. That's my opinion anyway.
80% of males will never make the first move. 10% will only make a move if the opportunity is absolutely perfect. and 10% are the guys who approach all girls all the time.
Some guys are shy, sometimes it might help to show more interest if your waiting on him. Some guys have fears based on the metoo movement. Not your fault but they are scared of having their lives ruined
I generally just got with the girls at the club, social lubricants aid the mating process. Asking never was part of the equation, if she takes you back to her place, you going to get some.
If I want ice cream I have to go out and get it. A fairy isn't drop it off to me. Same with women or anything else. If you want her you have to go after her.
From my point of view I always take the now-or-never approach! If it succeeds, it is a net profit for me, and if not, then at least I've tried, I will not regret, and maybe I've learned something, for me it's an obvious win win situation!
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