Is it game over for single women at 30+ (and single mums)? Should they give up on men and so kill themself? Guys, would you date women in their 30s+?

[hi_it_is_me123]

I know i sound like a femcel but i have read the posts of many guys on gag/youtube and most of them want young women without kids. It just scares me since i am afraid of being alone and i rather would kill myself than being alone. So i am afraid of being 30+. I only have 9 years time.

I would date women in their 30s+

I am a young man and so i would not date them but i would date them if i was also in my 30s+

I only would date women under 30s although i am at my 30s+

I would date women at 30+ although i am younger than 30s

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I am 21 and in 9 years i am 30. It is so scary to me. I am afraid of being old

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I can understand when young men want young women aka woman their age and i also understand guys without kids wanting women like them. However, it scares me that many men may only want women under 30s without kids even if these men are in their 30s and may also have kids

[Avicenna]

First of all, don't take the opinions of a relatively small number of guys as some sort of gospel. It's certainly true that most men would prefer to date a childless woman in her 20s if they have the choice rather than a single mom who's older than that, but that doesn't mean women in their 30s and even some single moms don't have options- they do. But it is true that men don't want to have to deal with the drama surrounding other men's children and to come last.

It's ridiculous that a young woman your age is panicking like this. It does get harder to meet the right person as you get into your 30s because a lot of people have paired off by then and people in general get pickier or have kids, which is a dealbreaker for many prospective partner of these parents.

What that means for you is that it's best to meet your long-term partner while you're in your 20s- you'll have more options. However, you also need to choose wisely because you don't want to become a single mom in a few years. Think about what you want in a long-term partner and date only guys that fit that description and are ready to commit to the right person. Get an IUD or use birth control and insist that he wear condoms until you're both ready to try to get pregnant (something you should only do by mutual agreement in a secure relationship).

Also work on building your career.

[NamerOfStars]

Relax- it's nowhere near as bleak as you're making it out to be.

Now, this isn't how I like to like to think of it- I find it dehumanizing in the extreme- but picture the world of dating as a marketplace, where what you're buying is a romantic/sexual partner, and what you're buying with is yourself as a romantic/sexual partner. Certain things add value, and certain things subtract it. And these things differ between men and women. Women care more about a man's money than men care about a woman's, and men care about a woman's youth than women care about a man's.

Does that mean that being poor and old make you unsuitable? No- but it does make you less "valuable" in dating terms (I told you I don't like thinking of it this way; it just makes it easy to understand). It may require a slackening of your standards, but you'll probably be able to find someone. Having more perks and fewer detriments just gives you more choices.

[silvermoon84]

30+ and (gasp) STILL SINGLE! I used to think that was so terrible when I was younger but it’s really not that bad, and yes there are men who will date us. As for the guys who won’t? Well, our age filters those guys out of the equation since they weren’t options anyway. You’ll be fine 😊

[MzAsh]

No way. Most guys really aren’t that picky. In fact, most guys take whatever they can get. As a woman, you’ll likely always have options.

[Jersey2]

That’s true for casual sex. I recently gave advice to a guy who is earlyb30s to go after 26 year olds for serious relationships/marriage. More runway for having kids.

[MzAsh]

That’s not too bad. Just keep in mind women aren’t ready or willing to commit before a certain age so you don’t want to advise friends to go too young.

[Jersey2]

True, the average age of marriage in the US for a female is 31. But he needs some dating time and engagement time.

[OlderAndWiser]

I dated single moms when I was younger and when I was older. Guy who refuse to date single moms are like guys who love big boobs: they run their mouths about it constantly. Guys who date single moms, like guys you prefer smaller boobs, don't broadcast the fact, but they exist in big numbers!

[ohshee]

When I was 15 and a half 16 I dated women in their forties and thirties for me it was a total turn-on now that I'm in my 40s I would date women in their thirties and in their twenties because it's a total turn on LOL it all depends on who you are what you like it's compatibility I honestly don't think you have anything to worry about I can read your words and their tell me you have a very beautiful heart and your beautiful person on the inside and that's what counts that's where true beauty is you just have to put yourself out there more chat with people get to know them I really honestly don't believe you have anything to worry about

[FunkyMonkee]

Yeah, young women without kids would be nice, partly because a lot of guys don't exactly want to become an instant daddy! But, a LOT of guys don't care! If you fall for a girl, hard enough, the other stuff doesn't matter! I'd love to have girl still in her baby-making years because I'd love to have kids and all the women my age have completely closed up the nursery and exchanged it for a playground!!

[FoxnEagle]

"afraid of being alone"
Do not expect a man to cure your loneliness. You still need other people, if you are feeling lonely now, fix that first.

"I only have 9 years time"
Plenty of time. Let me put it into perspective, once you hit 30, 9 years will have been nearly a third of your life.

[Ninjazzed]

What the fuck? Why would they kill themselves?

30 isn’t even old? It’s not even considered middle age? To be 22 years old, you sure don’t act like it.

We know our worth. We want someone to treat us right.. unfortunately there are really few of them.. we rather stay single than to waste time with someone with dangerous pride and little to no respect.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Lol wtf. I was just making a point. I have seen many male gagers thinking like that

[Ninjazzed]

These male GAG’ers shouldn’t be your focal point.

Most of them are extremely deceptive anywho.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I also see many guys on the internet who talk like tha

[Crazybeeguy]

That kind of stinks that you are stressing about your age and you have 9yrs left?
Look honestly you should worry about finding a guy who will be good to you that you are attracted to, not that you only have 9 good years left. Because you have more, the problem is there are plenty of guys that would be great husbands to you, but that's the thing there are also many that are just shit. Knowing the difference is the hardest part. Good luck!

[ChrisMaster69]

Nothing wrong with women in their 30’s or even 40’s.

A guy that slags them off, will be a bit Hypocritical if he finds himself single at 35 - 45 and his options are women in their 30’s or 40’s.

Never be afraid of being alone, there is loads to do and fun to be had,

[Caliguy88]

Shit. I’d say don’t even start dating till 30. I missed a lot of good times in my 20 dating the whole way through. Depends on where you are too. Big cities people get married way later than small town. I’d have probably been married by now if I didn’t focus on education and career for all my 20s as well.

[Yanagi_Kaze]

I date depending on couple of things:
Prettiness (Not necessary sexual appeal, but pretty)
Personality (Must be compatible to my personality)
Education/Intelligence.

These don't say anything about age.

[Tstrbrainer]

I don't think so. There are guys without such concepts.

Anyway, I'll date women of any age as long as they are adult.
But that doesn't really count as my interest is only sex, no relationship

[zagor]

If you don't change your mentality you will definitely be single at 30.

But that isn't a bad thing. Learn to live for yourself.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Lol was this an insult or wtf you mean with my mentality?

[zagor]

An obvious fear of being alone is kind of a turn-off. Especially at 21. And a lot of women get married after 30, especially if they have a career. You have a lot of time and if you want to find a man (I'm assuming) then make yourself into the kind of woman that the kind of man you want would desire.

[hi_it_is_me123]

What turn off is how you speak about me and your mentality. I am not that obsessed with it. I am just wondering the men on the internet represent the reality since i really see so many posts of many guys who dont want women at 30+ . I think you are an expectation. It can't be coincidence that soooo many guys on the internet trashtalk women at 30+ or maybe all of them are incels and actually the minority of men and use internet as their home (?) I am sorry. This just confuses me. And thank you for your advice. I am actually not that obsessed with being lonely. I just dont want to make my family sad since they want me to marry some day.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am from traditional family and women in my culture marry young and i still dont find anyone due to school work/exams. I just dont want to make my parents sad

[zagor]

Where do you live?

(Country, not street address...)

[Anonymous]

I tried but they tell me I'm a kid. So that's it. I tried when I was 25, and also now that I'm 27 and soon 28. Yet when they know my age it's the same stormy they change how they treat me and they start telling me friend. So it's their loss.

[hi_it_is_me123]

You tried with 30 years old women?

[Opinion Owner]

Yes. And before that I was in a relationship with a woman that was 28 when I was 23. To me age is not that important. As long as she is not more that 10 years older than me.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Oh woow

[bamesjond0069]

Im 34 and id date a woman in her 30s if she's hot but also only if it was casual. Id not be interested in marriage or having kids with her. You know from other posts i prefer much younger for serious relationships.

[blank_expression]

The 30yos with a kid that I have seen get someone, went for a lot older, and they had $$$.

[Leavesbound]

No of course not. It merely means there may be fewer choices but not that there are none.

[exitseven]

There are plenty of women over 30 that are great dating material. A lot of people concentrate on their careers and put off getting married for later.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Single moms definitely aren't for me. Women in their 30's are fine.

[Guardian45]

If you think it's game over, then you need a mental health counselor. DON'T BELIEVE ANY FING IDIOT who tells you this, ESPECIALLY your family!

[DarcRefractions]

u can always date a beta dude that's like 2/3 of men

[hi_it_is_me123]

Young women are minority of women. You are either be alone or be "beta dude" by your logic. Are you s beta as a man for dating a woman your age

[DarcRefractions]

no, you date the young women and once they are partners with u you probably stay with them. ita the single young women who become single 30+ years old you avoid. just like single moms.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Tf man.. by you retarded logic divorced women who experienced abuse in marriage, widowed women should give up on men. Again young women are minority of women. If all men only want young women, you will have hard time finding a girl

[hi_it_is_me123]

So it is unrealistic

[DarcRefractions]

divorced women are different in my opinion at least they had someone actually purpose and pay for the wedding.
nothing wrong with beta men. you can walk over them as a female and some beta men have money by the way. and they will spoil u and simp for u

[shiril]

If dating is not going to end up necessarily in bed then it is to understand each other widening your horizons... Having one more friend...

I think it is ok to date.